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Mors Sanctitatis Death of Virtue 732	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:32:00 - [1] - Quote 1. No Supercaps. 2. No Caps. 3. No bubbles. 4. No Interdictor bubbles. 5. No HIC bubbles. 6. No bombs. 7. Ambient traffic/players/misc. fluff to blend in with. (Yes, I know, ship IDs. Don't start.) 8. No jump bridges. 9. Briefs > boxers? 10. Did I mention to Supercaps? Basically, 0.0 is the equivalent of playing BF3 trying to fight as a ground troop when everyone else is using tanks. The only way to compete is to get your own tank. It's not that 0.0 PVP is inherently less sophisticated, it's just that CCP has made it too easy and given the player base too many "I WIN" buttons. When was the last time you saw a swarm of interceptors spiraling their way towards an enemy battleship fleet in order to keep their transversal up so they can actually make the 200km across and tackle a few BS? Now we just plop a 'dictor on 'em, drop a bubble and fly off. Easy button if I ever saw one. You can guess the rest: jump bridges, Titans. You get the idea. Subcapital PVP, best PVP. Too bad you have to rub elbows with the carebear highsec scum to do it. Intelligence shouldn't be free. -á Mining, reloaded. -á-áADDICTED.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Republic University Minmatar Republic 325	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:37:00 - [2] - Quote Have you tried low sec? Edit: Or did you really mean high sec?
Crimsonjade Reikoku The Retirement Club 2	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:39:00 - [3] - Quote awsome. i guess no one use non corp alts to rep them anymore.
Ammzi Imperial Guardians Tribal Band 1020	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:42:00 - [4] - Quote Scrub pvp. Highsec pvp is nothing but very risky neutral remote reps on station undocks. quote CCP Spitfire "Hello Im Blue,"
Shameless Avenger 307	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:44:00 - [5] - Quote Mors Sanctitatis wrote: ... 0.0 is the equivalent of playing BF3 trying to fight as a ground troop when everyone else is using tanks... C4 "This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" ~ The Story of the Ninja
Heimdallofasgard Apex Overplayed Coalition 222	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:45:00 - [6] - Quote What's high-sec? is that like... where you can't shoot anyone or something? Kick Heim.
Crunchie Attuxors Always Another Corporate Venture 163	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:48:00 - [7] - Quote Mors Sanctitatis wrote: 1. No Supercaps. 2. No Caps. 3. No bubbles. 4. No Interdictor bubbles. 5. No HIC bubbles. 6. No bombs. 7. Ambient traffic/players/misc. fluff to blend in with. (Yes, I know, ship IDs. Don't start.) 8. No jump bridges. 9. Briefs > boxers? 10. Did I mention to Supercaps? Basically, 0.0 is the equivalent of playing BF3 trying to fight as a ground troop when everyone else is using tanks. The only way to compete is to get your own tank. It's not that 0.0 PVP is inherently less sophisticated, it's just that CCP has made it too easy and given the player base too many "I WIN" buttons. When was the last time you saw a swarm of interceptors spiraling their way towards an enemy battleship fleet in order to keep their transversal up so they can actually make the 200km across and tackle a few BS? Now we just plop a 'dictor on 'em, drop a bubble and fly off. Easy button if I ever saw one. You can guess the rest: jump bridges, Titans. You get the idea. Subcapital PVP, best PVP. Too bad you have to rub elbows with the carebear highsec scum to do it. Yes, yes. The question is: Which alliance rejected your application? Eve forums official anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pudOFG5X6uA-áReal men tank hull. Fake women shield-tank Gallente.
Lady Spank Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 2371	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:51:00 - [8] - Quote Oh Bellum. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â)
Bommel McMurdoc East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate 7	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:51:00 - [9] - Quote oh you forgot an 11th reason..... NO ONE SHOOTS BACK and the po-po come every time!!! w00t!
Mors Sanctitatis Death of Virtue 732	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:52:00 - [10] - Quote MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: Have you tried low sec? Edit: Or did you really mean high sec? That's kind of funny actually. Mostly because you and I have never agreed on much on the forums, but you would know me by my original character. Which I won't disclose of course. :) But, suffice to say, I've spent 95% of my Eve career in low sec, in some manner or other. DoV's track record should be enough. Intelligence shouldn't be free. -á Mining, reloaded. -á-áADDICTED.
Marconus Orion Ministry of War Amarr Empire 301	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:54:00 - [11] - Quote Top 10 reasons 0.0 PVP is better than high sec: Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR
Mors Sanctitatis Death of Virtue 732	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:55:00 - [12] - Quote Ammzi wrote: Scrub pvp. Highsec pvp is nothing but very risky neutral remote reps on station undocks. That's only if you choose to engage the enemy like that. If you do it on your own terms, you can dictate combat far more easily than in 0.0. And what's worse? Neutral RR or 0.0 hot drops and Titan bridges? And to no one in particular: you can still get hot dropped in low sec... Intelligence shouldn't be free. -á Mining, reloaded. -á-áADDICTED.
Mors Sanctitatis Death of Virtue 732	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:02:00 - [13] - Quote Marconus Orion wrote: Top 10 reasons 0.0 PVP is better than high sec: Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR If CCP made all RR actions the same as aggression and locked players out of docking/jumping the same as when in combat, would that be enough to fix the problem? What if anyone that repped a war target JUST ONCE while the war is on, gets added to the war for the duration of the war? Intelligence shouldn't be free. -á Mining, reloaded. -á-áADDICTED.
Garreth Vlox Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension 13	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:05:00 - [14] - Quote Mors Sanctitatis wrote: Ammzi wrote: Scrub pvp. Highsec pvp is nothing but very risky neutral remote reps on station undocks. That's only if you choose to engage the enemy like that. If you do it on your own terms, you can dictate combat far more easily than in 0.0. And what's worse? Neutral RR or 0.0 hot drops and Titan bridges? And to no one in particular: you can still get hot dropped in low sec... what's worse? Do you even have to ask? I'll take getting a titan dropped on my blob over 1 war target undocking with 9 RR ships to back him every single time.
Abdiel Kavash Paladin Order Fidelas Constans 733	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:07:00 - [15] - Quote Mors Sanctitatis wrote: It's not that 0.0 PVP is inherently less sophisticated, it's just that CCP has made it too easy and given the player base too many "I WIN" buttons. Interesting question: if every faction has an "I WIN" button, is it still an "I WIN" button?
No More Heroes GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1014	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:15:00 - [16] - Quote Mors Sanctitatis wrote: 1. No Supercaps. 2. No Caps. 3. No bubbles. 4. No Interdictor bubbles. 5. No HIC bubbles. 6. No bombs. 7. Ambient traffic/players/misc. fluff to blend in with. (Yes, I know, ship IDs. Don't start.) 8. No jump bridges. 9. Briefs > boxers? 10. Did I mention to Supercaps? Basically, 0.0 is the equivalent of playing BF3 trying to fight as a ground troop when everyone else is using tanks. The only way to compete is to get your own tank. It's not that 0.0 PVP is inherently less sophisticated, it's just that CCP has made it too easy and given the player base too many "I WIN" buttons. When was the last time you saw a swarm of interceptors spiraling their way towards an enemy battleship fleet in order to keep their transversal up so they can actually make the 200km across and tackle a few BS? Now we just plop a 'dictor on 'em, drop a bubble and fly off. Easy button if I ever saw one. You can guess the rest: jump bridges, Titans. You get the idea. Subcapital PVP, best PVP. Too bad you have to rub elbows with the carebear highsec scum to do it. Get out Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Mors Sanctitatis Death of Virtue 732	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:23:00 - [17] - Quote Abdiel Kavash wrote: Mors Sanctitatis wrote: It's not that 0.0 PVP is inherently less sophisticated, it's just that CCP has made it too easy and given the player base too many "I WIN" buttons. Interesting question: if every faction has an "I WIN" button, is it still an "I WIN" button? Actually, that's a very good question. How many Titans are in game now, to date? And how many SCs? Intelligence shouldn't be free. -á Mining, reloaded. -á-áADDICTED.
Grumpymunky Super Monkey Tribe of Danger 374	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:41:00 - [18] - Quote Marconus Orion wrote: Top 10 reasons 0.0 PVP is better than high sec: Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR Neutral RR So you're saying that once they fix "Neutral RR", highsec pvp will indeed be better than 0.0 pvp? Post with your monkey.
Shameless Avenger 307	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:43:00 - [19] - Quote 1. get ur own rr or 2. shoot the rr's "This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" ~ The Story of the Ninja
Forum Clone 77777 State War Academy Caldari State 39	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:47:00 - [20] - Quote A character thats neutral and reps a guy whos in combat should be CONCORDED end of story. Guy 1 fights Guy 2. Wild Neutral Logi appears SCENARIO 1 Neutral logi has guns and helps Guy 1 by shooting Guy 2 Fight is now 2v1 Wild Neutral Logi gets CONCORDOKKEN'd SCENARIO 2 Neutral Logi has reps and helps Guy 1 by repping him so that Guy 2 cant effectively damage him Fight is now 2v1 Concord does nothing Now, to me theres really not much of a difference in these 2 scenarios, its Neut logi helping a fight that he, according to game mechanics, has no place in. But somehow this.. Well when you put it like this, it really just seems like an exploit, idk why it isnt really.
Degren Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1881	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:50:00 - [21] - Quote Posting in a nerf capitals thread This avatar is as happy as Eve gets! -áSoooooo happy.
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 792	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:52:00 - [22] - Quote If you had titled your topic "Top 10 Reasons High-Sec PvP is Different than 0.0" you would have had a point. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Americe Zane Dovahkiin. Rebel Alliance of New Eden 20	Posted - 2012.07.23 01:05:00 - [23] - Quote I've never seen cap/super cap or blob warfare in my time out in 0.0. Mostly smaller roams, with maybe max 10 ships on a side. If people don't like blobbing or cap warfare, it might be good to look into what alliance you join instead of writing off 0.0.
Mors Sanctitatis Death of Virtue 734	Posted - 2012.07.23 01:23:00 - [24] - Quote Tarsus Zateki wrote: If you had titled your topic "Top 10 Reasons High-Sec PvP is Different than 0.0" you would have had a point. Facts tinged with opinion Intelligence shouldn't be free. -á Mining, reloaded. -á-áADDICTED.
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1375	Posted - 2012.07.23 01:38:00 - [25] - Quote Top 10 reasons 0.0 PvP is better than hisec PvP: 1. Hisec ~pvpers~ tend to have neutral RR, remote sensor boosts, tracking links and other assistance on standby because of the inherent risk aversion of the hisec denizen 2. Hisec ~pvpers~ will bail out and get their shiny T3s into an Orca or deaggress and dock the moment the engagement is not going their way, due to the inherent risk aversion of the hisec denizen 3. Podding is rare outside of crashes, connection issues or very lucky shots due to the lack of bubbles 4. The lack of capitals means that neither side has to truly commit, but their introduction would be useless as they'd hug the station anyway, due to the inherent risk aversion of the hisec denizen 5. There are no valuable assets that can be hit due to the near-immunity of hisec towers and immune NPC alts 6. Nothing happens outside of stations and gates that provide either side a means of escape, due to the inherent risk aversion of the hisec denizen 7. The lack of bombs and bubbles removes significant, meaningful depth from empire "PvP" rendering it nothing but ~honour~ battles for the sake of ~gudfites~ entirely distant from the "dog-eat-dog" nature of the game outside of empire 8. The idea of pubbies zooming by entirely distant to the fact that a fight is going down right next to them is just silly 9. Empire aggression mechanics are broken 10. NPC corps a rogue goon
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 792	Posted - 2012.07.23 01:47:00 - [26] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: Top 10 reasons 0.0 PvP is better than hisec PvP: 1. Hisec ~pvpers~ tend to have neutral RR, remote sensor boosts, tracking links and other assistance on standby because of the inherent risk aversion of the hisec denizen Not to mention being able to immediately dock/jump those assets the moment they come under any risk because those actions do not give you an aggression timer. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 2161	Posted - 2012.07.23 01:48:00 - [27] - Quote This post is bad. I feel genuinely bad for the people who believe this. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance
nate555 GODHC INTERSTELLAR FLEET Primal Force 53	Posted - 2012.07.23 01:55:00 - [28] - Quote If there were no incursions that would be a easy fix. But since there are logi can't get ggc from rep
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 792	Posted - 2012.07.23 02:06:00 - [29] - Quote nate555 wrote: If there were no incursions that would be a easy fix. But since there are logi can't get ggc from rep Those are ships firing on NPCs. If you repair a ship firing on another player you should receive the same minute long dock/jump penalty they do. This would also count for 0.0 space. Currently if hostiles are attacking us in VFK, for example, nothing stops our logistics from immediately docking the moment they take fire. Also Logistics, or any other aiding ship, currently do get a GCC if they repair a ship that's engaged in hostilities. If you repair a war target you can be fired on by their enemies. If you repair someone that is attacking a particular group you become attackable by that group. The issue is that you can instantly dock without repercussion. I believe most Incursion running gangs will make a stink if someone with a wardec joins the fleet don't they? You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Terranid Meester Tactical Assault and Recon Unit 43	Posted - 2012.07.23 03:15:00 - [30] - Quote No Bombs? Some of the things on the list have merit but the OP clearly has no clue.

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