Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap

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Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas

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I've got a challenge for you - Tell us one thing about eve that you don't like. Not about the players, the game itself.

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One thing? Lowsec.

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Originally by: Robdon

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Originally by: Djavo

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Originally by: Aryth

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I am sure many of us, including CCP employees have played many an MMO and watched them slowly die or implode suddenly. CCP in the past has avoided many of the common misteps other MMO's have made for one very large reason, in GENERAL, they have listened to the playerbase.

CCP, if you have ever watched other MMO's tank, you should see the warning signs here. Consider this thread the canary in the coal mine. You see this happen to all MMO's at some point, the entire vocal playerbase turning on you. Once this starts, its usually the sign of a MMO in serious trouble. Most times in the past SOE/UO etc the devs ignore the players, censor the forums, and keep on with their "vision". You probably know how that usually ends.

My 2 cents on how to fix this.

First, You really need to focus on bug fixing and stop churning out new features that everyone hates or are incomplete/don't work right. PI is a shining example of a totally crappy system. You REALLY had a guy on EVE TV trumpeting how he was a dev on that interface? REALLY? Could you have made PI suck any more than it does? You figured the best course of action to limit risk vs reward in a system was to make it a massive clickfest eh. Great game design there guys. Dont' even get me started on dust being the gating factor. This isn't a troll, I simply cannot fathom how anyone thought this was a good idea. People gave feedback in the test forum saying how much it sucked, but you did it anyway.
Sov update, haha, You broke 0.0 warfare more than it already was. Again, I just can't see how you thought that system was gonna be a good one.
WTG overpowering SC's also. Welcome to supercapital online in the form of SC's now instead of Titans.
We could make a laundry list here of broken things but you get the idea. We dont' need more shinys, we need the stuff we have to be working/fun.


Second, and I know post T20 this is hard and all, but your Devs really need to play in 0.0 alliances or in another area that participates in large fleet warfare. Hey Stoffer, for the love of god, talk some sense into them. Would the real pvpers (at ccp) please stand up! You cannot fix what you don't understand, and it is pretty clear CCP does not understand fleet warfare. I heard recently someone had to demonstrate the firing in lag trick to them. That is plain sad.


Third, Use the CSM more effectively. You would think the complete breakdown in communication that was the most recent meeting might have been a warning sign. Here is why the CSM will always be smarter than you. Because it's not their baby. The CSM can see the ugly baby when it appears, you as people that work at CCP cannot because its your baby. Take it as constructive criticism and just work on the complaints. If you did that with even half the gusto you threw at all this new content you seem to think will suck in new players, you would never need to worry about an angry playerbase.

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Perfect.

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Indeed, well written.

If only CCP would just read (and understand) this 1 post.

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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I voted for EVE, but only because the rest of the games are utter garbage.
EVE Online is the best of the garbage. Fix lag and you might actually be the best of more than just the garbage.

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Quote:

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"We've learned a thing or two with our experiences with the NGE and don't plan on repeating mistakes from the past and not listening to the players." ùJohn Smedley, president of Sony Online Entertainment

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Originally by: MistressDoom

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Awesome, still waiting on mine.

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Originally by: wiztecia

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Originally by: MistressDoom

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Originally by: Damien Smith

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Well, I now have my World of Tanks beta code.

o/

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Awesome, still waiting on mine.

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Already rolling in my Tiger o7

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Originally by: Ace Frehley

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Omg Ed, that is a lot, I just have my panzer4jager and panzer 3 :/
can we get the 88 into eve and you mybe get me back, cuz yesterday I couldnt even log into cloud ring

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Originally by: Deldrac

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There is a lot of optimism in this thread about how CCP might do some worthwhile development on EVE in 18 months time.

No such promise was made in the dev blogs, all they committed to was not doing anything worth a damn on the next 2 expansions, and that they hadn't decided what to do in 18 months. You guys really shouldn't get your hopes up.

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Originally by: King Gore

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It seems as though we are already forgetting about EvE.

BTW, thanks to who ever for linking that WoT beta key, about to check it out here for the next 18 months.

EDIT: Jazzed up my reply a bit.

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