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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Zane Rio LOL 55 Pages and still going. It is time for CCP to give us a listen and try and work this out. Test server testing is a joke so why not start looking at the lag on the live servers.
Oh and BTW the undock button is on the lower left corner of your screen.
Delete all the alt poasts by the usual suspects and I bet it would barely break page 6. Then delete all the fleet fight ragers and I bet it would have been a nice thread.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing [sarcasm] Yes, as we all want a giant circlejerk about how great ccp is [/sarcasm]
For the 90% of eve that doesn't play nor care about fleet fights? Sure, why not, as pretty much everything else in the game past fleet fights is playable and lag free. Not to say that everything is perfect but by and large the game is quite stable and has enough quality content to last a new or not so new player for years and years. Provided they partake of it of course and don't simply stick to one single solitary feature for their enjoyment like a drowning man clutches at a straw.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Yifan Edited by: Captain Yifan on 03/08/2010 19:22:46
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing [sarcasm] Yes, as we all want a giant circlejerk about how great ccp is [/sarcasm]
For the 90% of eve that doesn't play nor care about fleet fights? Sure, why not, as pretty much everything else in the game past fleet fights is playable and lag free. Not to say that everything is perfect but by and large the game is quite stable and has enough quality content to last a new or not so new player for years and years. Provided they partake of it of course and don't simply stick to one single solitary feature for their enjoyment like a drowning man clutches at a straw.
Yes, we are fully aware that 90% of people play primarily in high-sec, and we should keep our mouths shut and kiss CCP's $insert_bodypart_here even if they decided that they will completely abandon all null and low-sec because, well, most people dont go there anyway.
Rofl. 90% of every alliances members are in high sec grinding for isk waiting for when there is some op to be run. Wake up people as the vast chunk of each alliance is made up of empire carebears anyways so not having fleet fights is just a single thing they don't get to do. So that leaves the other 99% of the content eve has to offer open for them to persue.
Which brings us to the vocal minority of players in these same alliances who only do fleet fights and have been left with no content to play at all. Well sorry for you that ccp decided to develop the game in a way that left your extremly small demographic in the cold harsh universe with nothing to do whilst providing lots of stuff for the other 99% of the players in the game with copious amounts of fun stuff to fill their playtime. I mean really if you just have to get those caps out and shooting at something then look into faction warfare as they are the ones who are still actively using caps on a daily basis. So explore your options instead of sitting in front of your computer venting hate that helps noone and only hurts yourself.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Leonard Delmordaine are you crazy lol... 99% of most alliances are not in high sec... you must be a complete idiot to make that statement. lol
100% of territory holding alliances are in nullsec. But the vast majority of their thousands of members are all in low sec or high sec enjoying the game. They only log in the aaliance cap ship alts when there is a fight to be had. So that leaves the alliance heads(who are making all the real isk anyways) and the very small core of fleet fight only players who 'live' in nullsec and make up the small/med pvp gangs you usually run across. So yeah 99% of most alliances members are hardly ever in nullsec.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 03/08/2010 19:56:42
Originally by: Leonard Delmordaine lol... you must live in empire... since most of the alliances i know do plexes and ratting.
Sure there is some level of that in every alliance but each system can only support so much of that due to spawn rates which still leaves the vast majority of members to seek the not quite as good but still excellent isk of highsec. But tell me this? Are those activites lagged out when there is no fleet fight eating up the nodes performance? Or is anyone even remotely disatisfied with the content they provide? Hmmmm? Remember the entire game is supposedly broken and unplayable if you do anything in nullsec says the annoyed fleet fight players.
Originally by: Captain Yifan
wat is this i dont even
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:09:00 -
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Collective reply:
One needs only to keep track of the map with pilots active in space to see that nullsec is hardly ever populated except for when there is a fight going on. So where are all these tens of thousands of alliance members at then? Oh yeah in low sec and high sec on their alts. It might even be true that the entirely of an alliances members are literally in nullsec at all times but those same members are still in low sec and high sec with their alts playing the game. How do I know this? Because I play right along with them in fw. Most are bored with nullsec due to the blobbyness or lack of fights but still stay joined to the corp on the cap ship main for those times when there is some action to be had. Also to the ones now defending the population of nullsec with the cry of 'zomg we do other stuff in lullsec besides fleet fights and we NEVER go to high sec so how dare you compare me to a carebear!!!111' welp it sure must be pretty playable in nullsec then.. Seems you guys keep cutting your own arguments legs off in mid stride.. So what is it? Is eve broken and unplayable or not?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 03/08/2010 20:32:52
Originally by: Syn Callibri Did you ever wonder WHY Null-Sec is so underpopulated these days? I'm not even a veteran null-sec player and I can figure it out...
To take and hold territory in null-sec requires FLEETS, and fleetbattles lag out and go *flop*.
...not that difficult when really think about the issue.
Null sec is underpopulated because even with the upgrades there is no way in hell you can support thousands of players off the isk content or have them all logged on due to the lack of servers which is a completely different issue than fleet lag. At least not when you have level 4 agents to use instead with the high sec alts.
As far as taking and holding territory the sov changes after dominion and the vast amount of territory that was freed up meant all you really needed to claim territory is something that can haul and anchor the needed mods. Somehow I don't think having playble fleet fights would have helped that situation any.
Also as has been pointed out nothing else in nullsec is broken in that you can make all the isk your little heart desires lag free(provided yet again someone isn't forming up a fleet or already running the site) in the plethora of new content that everyone seems to never mention that was introduced with dominion.
Originally by: Catari Taga
Originally by: Zeba So yeah 99% of most alliances members are hardly ever in nullsec.
Alright, thread's officially over, Zeba is here.
It's not quite over yet. They tend to keep twitching for a bit under the harsh light of logic. But any twitch replys will be dealt with accourdingly.
Originally by: Catari Taga Also lol at CCP and this thread.
The thread was officially over when zym hit the make new topic button. Whilst I think the thread is full of rightfully angry players who are rather annoyed at the delay in getting fleet fights fixed the game is nowhere as broken as their toxic spins are making it out to be. So it could have been a good thread if there wasn't such an upswing in the common Angry Fleet Fight Giy on the street that seems to be the norm lately.
Originally by: sue denim edit: and if you think they play on alts in highsec and lowsec all the time your dumb :| most of them are out in .0, spread out.
*opens map* I can't find them.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 03/08/2010 20:45:03
Originally by: Rewt ed who was that guy with all the bad ideas for super caps? Nozah or something? Did they promote him to deciding how resources should be allocated for development?
I love when people keep bringing this up. CCP troll best troll imo.
Originally by: Captain Yifan I'm not saying the game is broken
You personally might not be but the other 56 pages of this thread seem to pooint in that general direction.
Originally by: Captain Yifan What we are mad/angry/emorage/fuming/upset about, is the fact that CCP proudly declares publically (well, have to admire their honesty, though) that it is not going to fix multiple issues (including ones that actually concerns high-sec activities and FW, aka, ones that matters to you) despite acknowledge it a long time ago, and now is bold (shameless, pants on head?) enough to appeal to us to vote for them in a gaming reward. While you are claiming that we are mad because we feel the game is dying because we cant 'blob vs blob' anymore.
Again don't know about you personally but the rest of the thread seems to hinge on the fact that broken fleet fight = dead eve ergo the game sux and must be flamed no matter what. And yes I'm hopping mad about fw and the lack of development on it but otoh it still provides me with plenty of pew pew which is what its really all about anyways. So yeah fw could use some major renovation especially with certain standings issues and plexing in general but the free wardec mechanic and plenty of former(or current) nullsec players to chat with in gang is still pretty darn fun and so I don't go emo on ccp hoping that one day they fix it.
Originally by: Captain Yifan To summarise, EvE is not dying, and while it has bugs that needs to be resolved it is still a very deep, immersive and entertaining game. However, when CCP decides to treat its playerbase like $insert_obscene_object then there will be an inevitable kick in the backside to remind them that who actually feed their hamsters.
I have nothing more to say on this matter. and, last, shameless bump.
Well to be fair the 90% of eve that lives in high sec feed the hamsters. So trying the do as we want or everyone in nullsec quits is about as threatening to ccp as just a single person ragequiting. Besides if that happened all the carebear alliances would move in on the empty territory and nap up forever.
And yes pls keep the bumping. People will read the first page or two and /facepalm then skip to the end and so miss all the self centered idiocy to see the light of logic.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.03 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Cire XIII Thank you Zeba for generating content in a stale thread.
np. Quashing self centered ignorance is a hobby of mine.
Originally by: Cire XIII This thread convinced me to finally cancel my sub. $15/month was never a hard sell for me. While I'll still pay by PLEX, and CCP will still gain my money, they will lose the subscribed account they previously could count on to be around at the next interval. Perhaps I've been a fool to subscribe for this long?
If the one part of the game that isn't working for you is no longer enjoyable yeah it might be a bit foolish to keep your sub up. I would say try something else the game offers instead but if fleet fights really are your only interest then unsubbing is probably the best idea for the time being. Why prolong the agony?
Originally by: Cire XIII Hopefully it'll have a net positive effect. The lack of perceived tenacity on CCP's part in resolving the fleet lag issues needs addressing, badly. Yes, I've read the CCP responses, but the majority of them feel like damage control. Make me believe again.
If you step out of Angry Fleet Fight Guy mode and take a few steps back you will see that after Dominion not being able to have huge fleet fights was the best thing that could have happened to the nullsec game. Now instead of the instant chaos and the resultant market uncertainty of constant warefare over moons and pos production facilities we have had a nice long time of peace so nullsec is the most poplated and active it has ever been in its entire history. Lots of people mine and plex and rat and do small gang pew pew and a zillion other things that are not fleet fight related. Now stop and think if any of this would have been possible with the top alliances being able to hotdrop a few hundred supercaps anywhere they wanted at a whim on anyone trying to make a claim on the newly freed up territory or just for the lulz of killing a ratter with a supercap hotdrop.
Nah.. not a bit of bias in this whole drama at all. Not a drop.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.03 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 03/08/2010 21:31:04
Originally by: Catari Taga They all quit the game already.
If fw is any indication I know where a good chunk of them ended up.
Originally by: Catari Taga No but seriously to say the complaints are only about 0.0 fleet fight lag is grossly missing the point. I haven't been in a big fleet fight ever but I've noticed the lag introduced with Dominion and I find myself hardly logging in since Tyrannis since I cannot stand all the big and little broken things anymore that make up so much of the game play of EVE.
I will assume that you do all this stuff in nullsec as the rest of the content is perfectly playable in high sec. So the lag you are experienceing has nothing to do with the fleet fight lag. Its simply the general lag due to the very low amount of servers that are seeded in nullsec. Even before dominion if you were alone in a system and a playable but slightly laggy fleet fight happened on an unreinforced node that your system was on then you too would lag. Tbh all this yelling at ccp over fleet lag has given them the ability to dodge the real issues for general nullsec laggyness that noone ever yells for. What would this simple measure be that would make the average non fleet fight guys expeience in nullsec better?
Quit putting entire nullsec regions on a single cpu and get MOAR SERVERS!! so a fleet fight 20 jumps away doesn't ruin your small gang fun.
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Originally by: Zeba np. Quashing self centered ignorance is a hobby of mine.
Is this a case of using FIRE to fight FIRE...oh wait!
They say that the light of truth burns like a fire in the mind of the troll. So yeah the fire of logic vs the flames of the trolls is a valid comparison.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.04 06:44:00 -
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lol. Poor zinfandel. Don't you know that devs posting in a rant thread only get the arse end of the players 'opinions'?
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Originally by: Zeba They say that the light of truth burns like a fire in the mind of the troll. So yeah the fire of logic vs the flames of the trolls is a valid comparison.
But I...you...but...your a...wait...WHAT?
Sorry to confuse you but the truth often does that to people. Try to fully educate yourself to avoid this undesirable effect in the future.
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba If you step out of Angry Fleet Fight Guy mode and take a few steps back you will see that after Dominion not being able to have huge fleet fights was the best thing that could have happened to the nullsec game.
Sorry again to upset your fragile mental balance but yes, no fleet fights has made sure that the dominion sov changes took hold and prospered. So yet again sorry if you couldn't hotdrop your titans and supercaps on a hauler trying to establish sov in a backwater system noone in their right mind would even try to occupy.
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba Now instead of the instant chaos and the resultant market uncertainty of constant warefare over moons and pos production facilities we have had a nice long time of peace so nullsec is the most poplated and active it has ever been in its entire history.]
Nice trolling brah.
But its the truth. Nullsec is more populated now than it has ever been with scores of players running exploration sites and other nullsec goodies like anomolies and such. This is a far cry from the virtual emptyness of nullsec before the sov changes with the afk empire mechanic that only profited the top alliance members with moon goo profits and other nullsec only shineys like supercap production.
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Zeba Null sec is underpopulated because even with the upgrades there is no way in hell you can support thousands of players off the isk content or have them all logged on due to the lack of servers which is a completely different issue than fleet lag.
My brain hurt merely reading that. You're a CCP employee, surely?
Nope. Not a ccp employee. Sorry. As far as your opinion goes, welp, there really is only so many players a fully upgraded system will support and it falls faaaaaar short of the thousands of members most large alliances boast. Once you get to a few dozen or so milking the anomolies then high sec level 4 missions start making you more isk per hour. Don't belive me? Then do the math.
Originally by: Aphser My bet would be rather a Jita station trader, looking at the vast and consummate knowledge of the game...
Jita trading is simply a small part of my overall eve experience. I'm sorry that you are rather limited in your scope and only can manage to tackle one small infintesimal part of the game at a time and collate the information that it gives you.
My sympathies..
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Vapour Edited by: Darth Vapour on 04/08/2010 07:06:17
Originally by: cheet sheet
Why dont you go and test on the 5th and see what they do try and help out and then you can see for your self if its a smokescreen or not
I've been in most mass tests and will be in the next one. Provided CCP gets SiSi patched in the next 36 hours so your overview shows what is on grid with you now and not what was on grid 3 jumps ago.
If this is done the test will go pretty much as the last few did: -200 to 300 people will turn up and wait 90 minutes getting fleets set up -10 minutes of jumping and traffic control -10 minutes of fighting with acceptable lag as it is a dedicated node in an empty galaxy -CCP spawns 100 Sleepers and everything lags out -CCP Tanis or Habbakuk posts FPS numbers and how useful data was gathered and promising changes were tested.
Repeat every few weeks for the next 17 months.
In the meantime nullsec is getting even moar populated and generally improved due to the lack of serious fleet pew pew action.
Working as intended.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Darth Vapour Edited by: Darth Vapour on 04/08/2010 07:06:17
Originally by: cheet sheet
Why dont you go and test on the 5th and see what they do try and help out and then you can see for your self if its a smokescreen or not
I've been in most mass tests and will be in the next one. Provided CCP gets SiSi patched in the next 36 hours so your overview shows what is on grid with you now and not what was on grid 3 jumps ago.
If this is done the test will go pretty much as the last few did: -200 to 300 people will turn up and wait 90 minutes getting fleets set up -10 minutes of jumping and traffic control -10 minutes of fighting with acceptable lag as it is a dedicated node in an empty galaxy -CCP spawns 100 Sleepers and everything lags out -CCP Tanis or Habbakuk posts FPS numbers and how useful data was gathered and promising changes were tested.
Repeat every few weeks for the next 17 months.
In the meantime nullsec is getting even moar populated and generally improved due to the lack of serious fleet pew pew action.
Working as intended.
Your trolling is a little obvious bro.
Just sayin.
Your faithful toeing of the political spin line for your alliance masters is a little obvious bro.
Just sayin.
C'mon. Are there any real contenders for teh ownership of this thread? I'm starting to get tired of the endless incompetant self denial poasts tbh. Have some pride you gits.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Matt Kaiser This thread still exist? CCP must leave this here as a nice **** you to the players
Its one of those lulz moments for anyone with half a brain. Good thread tbh as it points out all the posers alts.
Time to roll new ones really as they have already used up any possible forums credulity..
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba Your faithful toeing of the political spin line for your alliance masters is a little obvious bro.
Just sayin.
What are you talking about? This is my main, I'm a bear. See my alliance ticker?
You're shockingly stupid.
Originally by: Zeba C'mon. Are there any real contenders for teh ownership of this thread? I'm starting to get tired of the endless incompetant self denial poasts tbh. Have some pride you gits.
You're an awful, awful troll.
0/10
Awww.
So since you have no actual argument you resort to ad hominem attacks and tired trollish accusations?
If this keeps up then this thread is mine by default.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: FinnAgain Zero Do Not Feed The Troll.
So does that mean we can delete all of the replys to the thread and start again fresh with hopefully no emoragetrolling over a niche gameplay mechanic complaint?(however valid it may be)
Originally by: FinnAgain Zero Blatant trolling
Wow.
Way to get worked up over something less than 10% of the active playerbase even knows about. Sorry that fleet fights are borked but really can't you find something else to occupy your mind until ccp gets around to fixing fleet fight lag? I don't know about other players but when one part of the game was not fun I simply switched to another part of the game that was fun.
I guess this is a concept beyond the grasp of your average cannon fodder.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers Please keep attention whoring and scrambling for nibbles mr. troll. I'm sure someone, eventually, will bite.
Rather sad to see you so worked up though over an internet spaceship forum.
Hehe.
Looking at the last two pages(the only ones I made a post in if you care to acknowledge annoyingly obvious and inconvienint to your school of thought stuff like that) it looks like we have a full catfish pond literally jumping out of the water for a 'bite' of me. I mean I knew that I had an adverse effect on trolls but this is like I sprayed forum flavored butter on all my posts.
Originally by: HarrietMiers Edit - So jita 4-4 "protests" are against the EULA, what about the major powers protesting in another way? I'd support in whatever limited capacity I'd be able to.
And what exactly is that going to prove or even more importantly accomplish? "Yo CCP!! Even though you obviously know fleet fights lag we thought we would disrupt other players games that have nothing to do with fleet fights just to show you that we care. So now that we have protested and made even moar players(who have nothing to do with fleet fights) game unplayable we feel that you will be able to magically pull the lag fix out of your arse and impliment it. amirite? no really, AMIRITE!!!!!!"
ffs..
I mean reallly..
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers useless poasting with no intelligent content whilst conveniently evading the real issues or lack of
I'm sorry.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba I'm going to try to **** on this thread as much as possible because my mother didn't love me enough as a child.
Sorry to hear that brosef. You seem awful upset about something, you should probably stop posting for awhile.
NO U!
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero Guys Guys, Chill.
Bah..
Where where you when we needed you?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: mippie wait.... so your going to come onto the forums, EMONERDRAGE about the lag that CCP clearly cant figure out..and when they ask for ACTUAL players to create the condition in which the lag happens your going to say "no" and continue to ***** and moan....your a fecking ****** who truely does not help this game...
Welcome to the forums!
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.04 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: TheBlueMonkey
Originally by: mippie
wait.... so your going to come onto the forums, EMONERDRAGE about the lag that CCP clearly cant figure out..and when they ask for ACTUAL players to create the condition in which the lag happens your going to say "no" and continue to ***** and moan....your a fecking ****** who truely does not help this game...
¼¼ indeed
There have been "mass tests" in the past and they've seemed to yield little to no results.
The test server is just that, a test server, it's not a mirror of the live server hardware\load wise so a mass test will do little more than tell CCP that the test server can't deal with large numbers of players... useful.
If they insist on "mass testing" on the test server then they'll need to insentivise it and for once it's the kind of thing they can easily insentivise.
When they wanted to test capitals they gave people all lvl 5s so everyone and their ****** could join in. That was entirely pointless because most of those who can't fly capitals don't know how to fly capitals, it's like getting me to test a jet fighter.
Now they just want pure numbers and they won't offer a bean? Um... stick 500mil as an incentive and see how many people rush to help.
I'll give them a hint though, loot logging. That's where my money is, it's not something we need, not something anyone I know wanted and yet we got it. Even with it turned off I've got a feeling in my water that it has an effect.
There... I helped
The test server is an exact copy of tq down to the last bit of code.(past the bits they changed to see if it improved or borked anything that is) That it can't support 60k concurrent players has nothing to do with supporting 500 players to test what the hell is causing fleet fight lag. Not logging in to help with lag testing is like *****ing about some politician you think sucks but you never voted for anyone on election day and stayed home to smoke a bowl and complain about why life is so unfair..
Also if you think those things you listed as probably culprits can't really be pinned down if ccp doesn't have enough players to recreate an actual tq style fleet fight.
But hey lets not let something like logic get in teh way of a perfectly good rant after all.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.04 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Bomberlocks This is something you really need to do, CCP. The test server is in no way an adequate analog of the live server.
Its exactly the same as the live server bit for bit. Especially if they reinforce the node the test is on. Then its literally the exact same enviroment as tq.
Originally by: Bomberlocks P.S. It's a real pity that the forums don't have a black function so we can block the obsessive trolls.
Then there would be no topics or replys for the majority of the forums.
Trollz = Forumz content tbh.
You guys supply the entertainment for the fleet fight guys looking at a black loading screen as they wait to appear in the clone station.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.04 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: TheBlueMonkey
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Bomberlocks This is something you really need to do, CCP. The test server is in no way an adequate analog of the live server.
Its exactly the same as the live server bit for bit. Especially if they reinforce the node the test is on. Then its literally the exact same enviroment as tq.
Originally by: Bomberlocks P.S. It's a real pity that the forums don't have a black function so we can block the obsessive trolls.
Then there would be no topics or replys for the majority of the forums.
Trollz = Forumz content tbh.
You guys supply the entertainment for the fleet fight guys looking at a black loading screen as they wait to appear in the clone station.
So everone turns up on the test server and all flood into the same system\same grid. How does that mirror the live server where you'd have countless people on their way to fleet, moving around near by systems, all the constelational and regional data that's changing constantly?
Plus all the respective corp\alliance\other chatter going on, contracts being updated, items being sold etc etc etc.
If you want a real test, the only way would be for CCP to have "research ships" that they could have tag along on a fleet fight that can experience the lag first hand.
For some things, yes, the test sever is good. For other things, not so much.
And what makes you think ccp hasn't already taken stuff like that into consideration? What makes you think that the test server fleet fights are the only thing ccp is doing to gather data about the lag issues? How do you know that ccp isn't at every fleet fight that gets reported for a node reinforce? How do you know that ccp isn't at many fleet fights on unreinforced nodes?
Oh, you don't. You just want to rage.
Originally by: Bomberlocks And you know this how?
Welp, there is this thing called words that are typed in another thing called a thread which contains all sorts of terribly confusing combinations of words in a place called the test server forums. Don't go there though as you might hurt yourself.. Information kills they say.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.04 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Catari Taga
Originally by: Zeba How do you know that ccp isn't at every fleet fight that gets reported for a node reinforce? How do you know that ccp isn't at many fleet fights on unreinforced nodes?
So you think it's the massive CCP presence at fleet fights that is actually overloading the nodes and causing the lag? Interesting.
Yes because ccp needs to actually be ingame and on grid with all of their dev team to pull data from the server as its running. I'm sure they do all their programming whilst docked up in station as they spin polaris frigs too.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: hohohohohohohohohoho This thread serves as proof that they do not give a **** about their actual customers.
Considering that the overwhelmingly vast majority of players are in low and high sec enjoying their lag free game on pretty much every level along with a rather decent amount of nullsec non fleet fight players enjoying their non fleet fight content I don't think you have it quite right.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: IR Seriouscat
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: hohohohohohohohohoho This thread serves as proof that they do not give a **** about their actual customers.
Considering that the overwhelmingly vast majority of players are in low and high sec enjoying their lag free game on pretty much every level along with a rather decent amount of nullsec non fleet fight players enjoying their non fleet fight content I don't think you have it quite right.
Considering most of those players either mine or run missions, both activities being heavily nerfed in the last expansion, I think he is quite right.
Yes because changing the loot tables to stop dropping tons of t1 loot totally ruined missions and mining. Granted a few players might not be making quite as much virtual money as before but who the **** cares about the accumulation of virtual wealth anyways when a single mission still gives you moar than enough isk to buy and fit out dozens of t1 pvp ships or some t2 ships if you run missions for a few hours?
You: "Yo dawg I has eleventy billion isk!!!! but with the mission loot nerf I'm only up to eleventy zillion instead of eleventy bajillion"
Me: "But you could buy anything you wanted when you only had eleventy billion isk.."
You: "THATS NOT THE POINT!!!!!!! I WANT MAH VIRTUAL MONIEZ NAO!!!!"
Me:
*glances at the market* hrmmm still just as stable now as it has ever been.
*glances at mission runners* hrmm still just as many running around killing little red crosses and not a single mission oriented whinge thread in site.
*glances at miners* hrmm people actually mine for profit in high sec that are not just idleing as they watch some shows or are a macro? Sorry but mining was nerfed looooooooong ago by the drone regions.
Originally by: Aphser You, sir/lady/muppet are clueless as can be. Been to low-sec recently apart from macro-hauling? The "lag free game" there you talk about is probably true if you run a macro, as it won't mess much with your "gameplay". Try a small gang encounter with more than a dozen players instead. Once you picked the wrong system... *kazong* ... epic lag on jumping gates and what not. But hey, don't bother checking actual facts or talking to players who actually play this game, keep on trolling!
Makes one really wonder how much CCP pays you monthly to troll us persistently.
Man I must be really lucky as I never get lag in low sec on any fw roams regardless if its just a few of us on a cane roam that literally travels the entire scope of low sec during the 6 or so hours we run or 70 of us in a frigate blob of doom. Oh wait I lied. We very rarely get some brief gate lag on roams but its never more than a few seconds at the most. Also on an op to take out a pos we had a tiny bit of lag with about 200 in local that made switching targets for the capital energy transfers take a few extra seconds. Yup the game in low sec must obviously be borked on every level imaginable. What was I thinking?
Also it makes one wonder how much isk your alliance leaders are paying for new accounts to keep the angry fleet guy alt train going in this thread.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Average Jack News flash - the company you love so much just changed the Sov mechanic a few months ago and made blobbing and large fleets mandatory to be able to take and hold space.
Really? Then how do you explain all this newly established territory that all got taken and held since the release of dominion? I mean if its mandatory to use large fleets to take and hold territory then explain how the lack of said large fleets let pretty much anyone with a hauler set up the required infrastructure to populate the map? I mean really there are only a few sparse areas of nullsec that have any free systems left in it as all the rest hav been gobbled up as soon as the former afk empire guys let them go. Should be a good explanation and am waiting with growing anticipation for it.
Originally by: Average Jack If this were not the case and CCP designed the game so small gang stuff is even half-viable then your arguments might have some merit. This way it just shows you're a stupid fanboi.
Yes because noone does small gang stuff because its not viable. I guess all the thousands of fw players just don't get that small gang pvp is broken and all those fun lag free roams we do are a figment of our imagination. Whodathunkit?!
Originally by: Average Jack Also, in case you haven't noticed yet, CCPs advertisement videos all show large fleet battles and present them as a major part of the game. Not your idiotic level 4s that you run all day (because the crappy excuse for PVE in EVE wouldn't attract anyone that didn't have major brain damage).
Both the dominion and tyrannis vids showed less than 150 in system. Thats perfectly playable right now as long as you tell ccp to reinforce the node. Also the tyrannis and butterfly effect trailer both showed parts of the game that would be considered pve. You are right about the brain damage though but alas wrong about who is suffering from it.
Originally by: Average Jack The only thing that makes EVE worth anything is the ability to build, defend and fight over large player run empires. Thanks to CCP this is only possible with large fleets.
Maybe to you personally but thats just dandy as the game is a sandbox after all. Seems most don't agree with your choice of activites though and do things on a smaller but just as fun scale which is just as beneficial to the overall game as the nullsec ego follies. Yes ego follies. As there are really only a few players at the top of each alliance that actually run and profit from their player run empire with the other thousands of members all being cannon fodder and mules. In this eve is no different than real life corps.
Originally by: Average Jack So don't tell me that the game is working as intended.
Fleet fights suck laggy arse. There are also some ongoing issues with older but still perfectly playable content that needs a bit of lovin. Past that the game is in the best shape it has ever been on pretty much every level unless you are a bitter vet like myself that has already played pretty much all the content the game has to offer and would really like some moar please. Even then I still find reasons to log in regularly and play whilst enjoying myself.
So I'm telling you that yes the vast overwhelming majority of the game is working as intented. (and to toss in some \tinfoil one might say that borked fleet fights are working as intended due to all the player empires that have sprung up in nullsec since dominion. I mean you can't take and hold territory if as soon as you try to drop the tcu one of the major alliances hotdrops its supercaps on the unfortunate hauler.. )
Originally by: Average Jack Now go back to Motsu and let the grown-ups talk.
I haven't missioned in years and never did it in motsu anyways. Trade and pvp loots make me moar than enough isk to see me well into the next few years of enjoyable lag free low sec pvp or whatever strikes my fancy atm.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.05 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Bomberlocks Edited by: Bomberlocks on 05/08/2010 16:36:34
Originally by: Master Akira So, I heard that Nathan is talking about merging the chinesse server with TQ.
http://news.mmosite.com/content/2010-08-05/cgdc_2010_eve_onlines_chinese_server_to_be_merged_with_its_world_server.shtml
Asian Games Award, here we go!!
I have bad feelings about this. My thoughts go along these lines:
- Petursson is known to be one to use hype Eve (and CCP) at every single opportunity (see Hilmar on the Inspired by Iceland video for some cringe-worthy shameless plugging of his company). As the man who's been hyping WiS since 2006 what he says should usually be taken with a pinch of salt. - The Chinese Eve server only has around 9000 subscribers and was run by a Chinese company. I can't imagine it being very profitable for them and it's possible they want out, and this is Hilmar's way of saying that CCP is merging the shards, as it were. - Given the Chinese national internet restrictions, I can imagine some fun times ahead when CCP tries to integrate the forum and game with them.
I won't read more into it at this time, but the parallels to other companies merging ailing MMO servers is striking.
Edit: Of course, it could be the beginning of a whole new lag free era of prosperity, who knows?
Hahah! Now we know what 'Invasion' is. Prepare yourselves..
But ccp never wanted to split the playerbase anyways so all they will do is shut down the china servers(probably reusing them for tq and the servers needed for dust matches) and convince the chinese government to let the former eve players on the tq cluster. Maybe now that ccp has an active develpment studio and office in shanghai and also employing chinese nationals they have some pull to use? Otherwise can't really see how adding in an additional 9000ish players not used to the cut throat mentality of the real server would be a bad thing for us.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.05 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Bomberlocks
Originally by: Zeba ...Hahah! Now we know what 'Invasion' is. Prepare yourselves..
But ccp never wanted to split the playerbase anyways so all they will do is shut down the china servers(probably reusing them for tq and the servers needed for dust matches) and convince the chinese government to let the former eve players on the tq cluster. Maybe now that ccp has an active develpment studio and office in shanghai and also employing chinese nationals they have some pull to use? Otherwise can't really see how adding in an additional 9000ish players not used to the cut throat mentality of the real server would be a bad thing for us.
Just for interest's sake, how old are you and in which country do you live?
Retired and in America. Second generation British. Why?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Aphser
Originally by: Zeba [...]Retired and in America. Second generation British. Why?
Figures.
Well that was certainly original.
Originally by: Aphser And your retirement "funds" originate from Iceland, right?
No, I bank locally and my broker had warned to not go near iceland even with someone elses money. But the "funds" all came from the tech boom of the 80's and 90's. Good god the money to be had from companys that were totally clueless about how much computer stuff really cost when when quoted terms much like the government got rolled for $20k each toilet seats around the same time. But unlike the government profiteering scams it was like a legal racket tbh. A very profitable legal racket. Then everyone mostly wised up and the boom fizzled out by the time the 21st century rolled in. But the ones who rode the wave at the beggining made out extremely well.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.05 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Saul Reaver 2 days ago my best mate's account subscription ran out and i noticed he wasnt online so i gave him a ring and asked what he was going to do. His response follows-
I'm not paying nearly ú15 a month for that pathetic waste of a game, Especially after i read the 50+ page thread on CCP asking us to vote Tyrannis for an award. AN AWARD? he shouts. Mate, you can have my labs etc that is in corp and thats it. After 4 years in eve i'm not paying money to a company that does not give a s.h.i.t anymore.
Those were his exact words. Makes me sad. Not because my best m8 no longer plays eve but because i fear it wont be long before i follow him.
Give us the game back we all love CCP. Red Moon Rising 4tw.
If he really reacted that way and you though it was perfectly normal then I'm thinking that it might have been for the best. For you too.
It's just a game guys. Step back a bit and get some perspective.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.05 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Zeba It's just a game guys. Step back a bit and get some perspective.
While I agree that Eve is "just a game," you also have to take into consideration that a large number of players have played Eve for many years and made many good friends while pvping/missioning/chatting/mining in this game. They've helped shape the political and industrial landscape of the game together over a long period of time :bromance: It's understandable that people are angry, they feel CCP is ruining what's made Eve so fun for them in the past.
Of course. I myself am not the happiest camper in eve over things like the lack of attention faction warfare has gotten over the years past the couple of quick fixes like boosting the lp shop and missions.(both of which simply bloated all four races militias with pve players in bombers who avoided pvp like the plague and farmed isk)
But the core issues still have been ignored for pretty much the entire time its been deployed. But I'm not about to go shout at someone over it then rage quit over a single issue. Thats juvenile. Especially when there are plentiful other pvp options in the game that even let you use your supercaps just like you were in nullsec only without the massive blobs.
I also totally understand the anger from the players who like nullsec fleet fights. I'm sure if the parts of the game I enjoy were as unplayable as they currently are for you then I would be quite vocal on the forums about it.(logical vocal. not self inflicted wounds emo vocal) Hell I was always counting on ccp to fix the lag so that one day I could experiance a truely massive fight on the epic sci fi movie scale. I even bought the cap skills and cap ships for all my alts when it looked like dominion would be a winner. Big let down yes and literally tens and tens of billions sunk in skills and ships I barely use in fw.
But meh I just changed direction and did something else fun in eve just like when your race of choice gets the nerfbat so you have to train a new race to get the good stuff again. So yeah, I do indeed understand. But what I don't understand is this general rise of thread about zomg fleet fights still suck so by default ccp is a horrible evil company and also the rest of eve sucks! I mean to be fair I'm not really suprised at it but none of it is helping in any way and could be figured to actually hurt the overall game which in turn hurts the people who want to have playable fleet fights.
So yeah people need to take a step back and get some perspective.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.05 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Frug
Originally by: Zeba I'm not about to go shout at someone over it then rage quit over a single issue.
There's only one issue eh. Oh ok. Good to know. here I thought there were several.
There is only one current issue that has a part of eve completely unplayble. And the context of my reply was to the guy who ragequit because of nullsec issues. Are there other issues? You bet your arse and there are scores of threads about them. Some of the threads are well thought out and full of useful information or even handy workarounds. Others are simply exercises in juvenile rage much like this one that was highjacked by the type of person who ragequits and goes emo at his friend over a problem in a game. I wonder how the poor lad will react in real life over something serious like his gf leaving him over his ever increasing gaming habits and the anger it creeps into his rl situations? Will he scream at her too?
Step away from the computer. It time to quit playing for a bit.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.05 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Bomberlocks The reason I asked was because I thought your post to be terribly naive. If you have any idea of how the Chinese version of Eve is being played you wouldn't be too exited about this possibility happening. Their game lives off RMT, aka Farmers and Macroers, and RL RMT organisations paying a lot of real life money to buy ISK and alliances. They have an extremely strict economy where the workers farm for the bosses, who have so much ISK that they have fought wars by buying an entire alliances worth of ISK to defeat the selling Alliance. If you think nullsec politics are harsh right now, I don't think you would like what that would bring.
The chinese server was not under direct ccp control and also had no impact on the real tq server that is ccp's bread and butter so they really would have no interest in keeping serenity as cleanish as tq. As far as the quality of player well somehow I don't think they would be able to transfer territory rights or even the bulk of their assets. If it happend most likely they would get a bunch of isk and thier current character to use if they decided to join with the tq population. Either that or not be able to play at all or only with a brand new character. Also the rmt would hit a brick wall as the rules are different here than on serenity. What works there most likely won't work here or they would already be here using tunneling programs to get past the great firewall of china or simply setting up shop in a place with easier access. But anyhoo ccp wrangler already stated that the article was a misunderstanding and they have no plans to actually join the populations of both servers on any level.
Originally by: Bomberlocks Aslo, I'm not to sure you have an accurate picture of how much influence an organisation like CCP, with its few hundred employees have. If a giant like Google lost out to the Chinese government, I seriously doubt that CCP would be of much interest to anyone there.
But other smaller foreign companies get rights to operate in china all the time. So size does not matter, only what the company offers. Google offered information technology and more importantly possible access to foreign web content which is not something the chinese government wants any competition with. CCP simply offers an mmo with limited access to outside players which your average chinese citizen can already get with a few simple hacks to his computer. Add in a special client that limits some certain features like the igb and maybe certain chat channels and then you could easily let them in the main game. But again this isn't going to happen so back to the normal eve sucks content asap!
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.05 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Syn Callibri /moar popcorn
I know.
Its been a pretty fun thread so far even if I got to the party late. If people want to keep bumping it to add to the general lulz then I'm in it till the eventual lock.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.06 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB8ost406wA
Sums this thread up rather nicely.
Hehe. Cute.
But this one is far closer tbqh.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.07 04:20:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 07/08/2010 04:19:51
Originally by: Corduroy Rab
Probably the best reply to any thread evah.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.08 04:05:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 08/08/2010 04:06:44
Originally by: Atticus Fynch EDIT: Cant believe this thread is still going strong.
Well what else do the fleet fight guys have to do? I mean it must be hard to watch the other 90% of eve go about their daily routines with little to no issues especially the high level members of their own alliance who are raking in the iskies from the general stability of nullsec due to no fleet fights.
Also: BUMP!
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.08 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: SupaKudoRio Whoops! Getting a little close to the bottom of page 1 there.
Who do you think is going to win the award?
I don't know. I never registered to vote there or even looked at the nominations. Who cares anyways? It's just some random internats site wanting to drum up some attention to the overall EU gaming industry. Even if eve won all it would mean is another little "yo we at x internats site think eve is cool" blurb for the marketers to use.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.08 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 08/08/2010 20:32:42
Originally by: GiggMaster Edited by: GiggMaster on 08/08/2010 20:25:14
Originally by: Tokp Lotas seems that ccp is winning this battle... since this post is dying...
I will keep bumping this thread for the time being until CCP give us what we want.
Ohhhh! So thats the plan!
You say endless whinging can accelerate the process of debugging code? Whodathunkit?!
I salute your ingenuity. It's pure Jenious. o7
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.08 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: wr3cks
Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 08/08/2010 20:32:42
Originally by: GiggMaster Edited by: GiggMaster on 08/08/2010 20:25:14
Originally by: Tokp Lotas seems that ccp is winning this battle... since this post is dying...
I will keep bumping this thread for the time being until CCP give us what we want.
Ohhhh! So thats the plan!
You say endless whinging can accelerate the process of debugging code? Whodathunkit?!
I salute your ingenuity. It's pure Jenious. o7
Hey, Jenious:
The problem is that they're not working on debugging.
That's what all the whinging is about!
WHING!
And yet they are. Don't blame ccp if you can't actually read what they stated and simply emoraged off to the forums when you hit the phrase that said no other features would be worked on for 18 months.
Pure Jenious in these here parts I tells ya.
(and yes I know its actually spelled genius. Its the same thing as saying poast when the content of a post is made from troll droppings)
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.09 03:10:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 09/08/2010 03:10:50
Originally by: sue denim
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
Just had to QFT this.
it is a good one ;p
Agreed.
Oh man I so love this place. It never fails to amuse.
Cold Dark Harsh Forums indeed..
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Posted - 2010.08.09 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Zeba
Oh man I so love this place. It never fails to amuse.
You dont get out much do you?
Wat? Just like I can pull enjoyment from multiple sources in eve I can also pull amusement from multiple sources in real life.
Emo much or is the sandbox a little to big for you?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.09 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Zeba
Oh man I so love this place. It never fails to amuse.
You dont get out much do you?
Wat? Just like I can pull enjoyment from multiple sources in eve I can also pull amusement from multiple sources in real life.
Emo much or is the sandbox a little to big for you?
Youre not to bright for a man who roleplays someone intelligent.
You're not too effective at making any sense either. So tell me, how are the forums being amusing to me = to me 'not getting out much'? Is there some sublime eve only social miscue I have commited? Have I stepped on the wrong alts toes yet again? Inform us oh wise forum member.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Originally by: devildog215 Edited by: devildog215 on 11/08/2010 03:32:40 74 pages and no straight answer from CCP! good job CCP!!!! just for that i voted for some random 3rd party game
*takes bait*
Answer to what?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.11 06:55:00 -
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*reels in the juicy trout*
Originally by: Ban Doga Maybe to "Do you think it's justified to be awarded 'Best MMO' when serious technical issues (grid loading and black-screening) remain in game for more than one release cycle?"
When it only effects a small minority of the game regardless of where that minority might stand in the view of the marketing department? Yup. Eve is sooooooooo much more than a blobby fleet fight.
Originally by: Ban Doga Or to "Do you think there is a correlation between quality of the product and customer satisfaction? And do you think there is a correlation between custom satisfaction and willingness to support a product/company as customer?"
The vast majority of the game is working just dandy and with the constant increase in overall subscriptions it seems the playerbase agrees that eve is one of the best sandbox space based mmos evah. That they don't arse themselves to vote on some obscure marketing site is just the nature of the playerbase.
Originally by: Ban Doga Or to "Do you think more than 2,000 supporting votes in an Assembly Hall thread calling for more "Excellence" is a sign of perceived lack of quality?"
2000 supporting votes minus the supporting alts of course. Then there is this little thing about having nearly 400k active subs but a thread can only get 2000 into it? Seems a rather small number to shape the destiny of an entire game that is so much more than fleet fights online.
Originally by: Ban Doga Or to "Do you think that the threadnaught following the CSM minutes and devblog provided a good situation to ask for your customers support?"
Pffft. There have only been three real threadnaughts in the entire history of the forums. Number one was the t20 hilarity. Nothing will ever top that. Ever. Number two was the nano nerf. So many angry vaga and typhoon owners with multi billion isk at the time full hg snake implants with lulz exspensive polys and faction nanos. Sooooooo much rage. Number three(and the best imho) was the proposed mothership changes that included letting them dock. CCP troll best troll is all I can say about that lulz.
Do you need any moar answers?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.11 07:30:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 11/08/2010 07:31:16
Originally by: Ban Doga Thanks for the effort but as stated above: the answers are expected from CCP. (I think your point of view has been demonstrated quite clearly enough times)
I don't need to be employed by ccp to reply in a way that probably mirrors what they are thinking. I don't have any special interests to support and so don't care about the eve forum lobbyist movement. Granted they are superb fun to knock about in a thread and the entire reason I regulary log into the forums. And I keep putting out my point of view because narrow minded gits keep squawking about how the overall game is total fail because their little corner of it is broken. Tit for tat tbh. Don't like it? Get a better offense. Originally by: Super Whopper Why do you do this all the time Zeba? It's a good habit but making an utter fool of yourself does get old.
Yes, because I care about your insignificant lobbyist alt opinion. Please get over yourself and find a new angle to attack ccp to get them to do your selfish bidding as the current campaign is just lulz ineffective. Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: Ban Doga Thanks for the effort but as stated above: the answers are expected from CCP. (I think your point of view has been demonstrated quite clearly enough times)
Thanking Zeba for it's poorly constructed trolling?
CCP won't give an answer and that's not what this is about, this is about new customers reading CCP don't give a damn about the game and will never fix it bar irrelevant nonsense like implants showing on KM's. Who gives a damn, CCP do, because it's nearly at the bottom of irrelevant **** but important things won't get fixed because they're at the top of the list of priorities for players.
Actual new customers who have never been exposed to eve won't even realise that certain content is limited for years. There is literally that much stuff to do and experience in the game. Unless you happen to be one of the bitter vets who only care about a single narrow aspect of it.
Originally by: Super Whopper Now if only Zeba was a hundredth as good at trolling as CCP it'd deserve respect.
CCP is the best troll evah. I would never even think about trying to scale the heights they have reached. Well maybe if I eventually got a job with them but meh I'm too old for that crap. I just want to ruin peoples day be it forums or ingame.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.11 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: Zeba Someone teach me how to format my responses.
You're not ruining anyone's day, other than being irrelevant, you're not too old for that and you're damned good at it too. I do recommend going back to middle school and learning how to format text.
Nice changeup pitch on the ad hominem attack. o7 Care to keep yourself ontopic though so we can take you seriously?
Originally by: Ban Doga The question is not whether I like what you say or not, but whether it's relevant to me or not. Your point of view is irrelevant, since I don't care about how probable it is that some player has the same opinion as an official CCP employee. I care about the official CCP "opinion".
Well if all you care about is the 'official' ccp responce why did you even bother to respond to me? Contradict much?
So how about we all get back to trying to figure out how to make the day to day life of the average nullsec player a bit better? Like maybe seeding moar servers so when a blob forms it doesn't effect some poor guys trying to have some fun 20 jumps away?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.11 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dyzzy Dyvyl now lets get an answer from some1 whos not a carebear.
Looked me up on battleclinic I see. Working as intended.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.11 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: yourdoingitwrong Eve 101 -> Eve is a PVP game -> Eve primarily advertises itself to include epic fleet battles as a primary component to the game. (not secondary) -> epic fleet fights were possible 2-3 patches ago. -> they broke it and our patience has finally worn thin.
see you on the 100th page Zebabear because this one is not going away.
I know. The longer this stays on the top of the gd the better. Though probably not for the reasons you think it should.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.11 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 11/08/2010 20:28:54
Originally by: Profane Deception
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Originally by: Desert Ice78 So Zymurgist......After 75 pages, I would love to hear how YOU think the voting campaign for the European Games Award is going??
After 75 pages of 0% noteworthy response you expect to hear anything? You...my friend, are an optimist!
sad but true
Well do you really expect the lord of the house to come out and address the rabble after they have coated the front lawn and door with hip deep piles of manure?
edit; BUMP!
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:21:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 12/08/2010 18:24:30 Edited by: Zeba on 12/08/2010 18:21:04
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: CCP Adida If you have something to contribute to this thread that is fine. Do not bump the thread simply to bump this is against the forum rules specifically #12.
According to the mentioned forum rules bumping is not allowed.
But the linked explanation of bumping refers to spaceships. Now I'm confused. Did anyone park his freighter in this thread?
Strange. Adida's link goes to the forum rules of which number 12 is stated as thus: Originally by: Forum Rules Spamming, bumping and pyramid quoting are prohibited. Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or text or nonsensical posts that have no substance and are often designed to annoy other forum users. This includes ôfirstö and ôgo back to <another game>ö posts. Bumping posts in order to keep them near the top of the list is also prohibited. Petitions or "/signed" posts are a version of bumping and likewise are not permitted. Pyramid quoting is a response to a forum thread that contains the quotes of four or more previous posters, sometimes with additional spaces added unnecessarily. Posts of this nature are not conducive to community spirit and are unwelcome.
whilst your link goes to the rules about bumping ships. Par for the course in this thread tbh. Sooo many spin jockeys in here we might as well rename the thread 'FOX NEWS: Always fair and balanced'.
edit; BUMP!
re-edit; Ah I see what you are talking about now. The wiki link inside the forums rules links to ship bumping. Well lulz. Gogo automatic hotlink linkers.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ban Doga Just try clicking on the linked word "bumping" in the forum rules you copypasta'd. Then the strangeness will subside.
Yeah just noticed that. We should start a thread about it tbh. Stupid crap like this is obviously ruining the game.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 12/08/2010 18:31:57
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Ban Doga Just try clicking on the linked word "bumping" in the forum rules you copypasta'd. Then the strangeness will subside.
Yeah just noticed that. We should start a thread about it tbh. Stupid crap like this is obviously ruining the game.
No, we should ignore such inconsistencies. After all there are new features to be implemented.
True. The bumping link in the forum rules that goes to ship bumping is about as relevant to understanding rule 12 as fleet fights are to establishing and holding sov. Good call mate.
Originally by: HarrietMiers I think a few newer players and ccp fail to realize the source (or at least one of the sources) of the playerbase's grievance: at one point, 1000 on 1000 was possible. Granted, there would be be slight - 10 to 30 second - module delay. But it was possible and quite epic.
We had a taste of pure awesomeness that is this game with minimal lag. It worked!
We want it back.
Had we never seen fights of this proportion, I doubt you'd see the whining going on in this thread. Too late though, we had a taste and are hooked. We're junkies ccp. Give us damn junk.
Well thank you captain obvious. Hell even I want fleet fights back so I can use all those tens and tens of billions in isk of cap skills and ships I sank into my combat alts right before dominion hit. But I'm not going to cut myself over it.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers This is some of the best trolling I've seen on these forums Zeba. My hats off to you for consistency, creativity, and voracity.
Actually it has been some pretty good trolling going on in here. Hats off to the lobbyist alt army for continued excellence in political spin and an unending trudge to absolutely nowhere.
Originally by: HarrietMiers That said, how many times have you posted in this thread? Be honest
Far far less than all the faceless and not so faceless fleet fight lobbyist alts I can assure you. And I claim victory because you can't even dispute me anymore. Just personal attack after personal attack. Hell the last few pages were totally lulz as you and the alt army continued to toss offtopic attacks at me when you saw me post in another thread and I continued to ignore you all in this one.
Feels so good to be wanted.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba Hats off to the lobbyist alt army for continued excellence in political spin and an unending trudge to absolutely nowhere.
This is actually my main. I sold my 2003 toon when the lag became unacceptable and am bearing until they fix it. Feel free to hit me up in game for my old info if you'd like. I'd also love a chat with you. You seem like a chill brosef.
Why thank you. I am a pretty chill brosef ingame as I never let the forum game leak into the real game. I'm too busy enjoying the endless amount of fun to be had with all the awesome stuff to do.
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba Far far less than all the faceless and not so faceless fleet fight lobbyist alts I can assure you. And I claim victory because you can't even dispute me anymore. Just personal attack after personal attack. Hell the last few pages were totally lulz as you and the alt army continued to toss offtopic attacks at me when you saw me post in another thread and I continued to ignore you all in this one.
I'm not coming at you brah. I'm complimenting you working people up into a frenzy. No sarcasm. It's fun to watch a ::puppet master:: in his/her prime.
Yeah my bad. I have a bad habit of putting in the word 'you' when I should be using 'they' or 'them' or some other group descriptive. And I'm not a puppet master I just like to trip up the players who go over the top on the forums into the realm of the emo. And noone can deny we have had a crapton of that in this thread.
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba Feels so good to be wanted.
I tell myself that everyday too.
Positive reinforcement best reinforcment. Especially when they ask for you by name.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.12 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 12/08/2010 19:12:33
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: HarrietMiers
That said, how many times have you posted in this thread? Be honest
http://www.eve-search.com/stats/thread/1360067
Crap I've got some catching up to do.
Better get to poastin then.
And neat link. Didn't realise you could do that with eve search.
edit; ffs keep forgeting to say BUMP!
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.12 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: PCaBoo
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of some trolling and off topic posts. Please be sure to post on topic and in a constructive manner.
maybe it's always been like this, but lately it seems like anything said against the propaganda machine is deemed trolling and moderated. If things don't pan out for you guys at CCP, maybe you can work for the Iranian or Chinese governments.
Well they removed some of my replies too and I am supposedly considered to be part of the ccp propaganda machine. Tbh I'm pretty sure they(ccp) would not shed so much as a tear if I never posted in the forums again.(at least in this thread, maybe a few others ;p)
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.12 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 12/08/2010 21:17:51
Originally by: HarrietMiers I think a few newer players and ccp fail to realize the source (or at least one of the sources) of the playerbase's grievance: at one point, 1000 on 1000 was possible.
I'm fairly certain ccp knows about the former ability to enjoy laggish free fleet fights as they were the ones who sweated their destiny balls off making it happen. Then Dominion came along and wrecked it to worse than it ever was and even moar annoyingly(for everyone including ccp) somehow it got wrecked so bad ccp still haven't figured out what the hell happened.
Originally by: HarrietMiers Had we never seen fights of this proportion, I doubt you'd see the whining going on in this thread. Too late though, we had a taste and are hooked. We're junkies ccp. Give us our damn junk.
Here is the rub. I want ccp to fix fleet fight lag just as bad as anyone else. My sympathies go to everyone including myself who sank tens and tens of billions of isk into all the revelant cap skills and ships to outfit all my combat alts in shiney hotdrop style. Even had a few prospective offers to get into the nullsec game by joining one of the fw corps nullsec divisions so I was all happy and giddy to get started. Then Dominion hit and it all went up in a lag bomb. So yeah I too have lots of annoyance over all this stuff I was wanting to do suddenly getting yoinked out from under me. I can only imagine what it feels like for the ones who already were waist deep in it.
But really. Was it nessesary to highjack this and multiple other threads and turn them into a 'we can't fleet fight' rage fest? What does it accomplish? The needed coding revisions certainly are not going to get sped up on fixing it over pages and pages of rage. Plus noone can toss the 18 month misquote out over it because ccp has stated over and over they never stopped working on the fix for lag even with incarna and dust getting the lions share of the content creation devs(who by the way all suck at fixing lag) that won't work on other aspects of eve for that constantly tossed out 18 month snippet. Now besides fleet fight lag are there issues that need to be dealt with? Certainly. I will be one of the first to wag his finger in faction warfares general direction and give ccp a stern look about how the promised fleshing out never got past Soon.
But is faction warfare unplayably broken like fleet fights? Not at all. Granted the rr alts are annoying as is the lack of an official reason to undock and pew pew with the less than effective plexing mechanic but we still go out and have a ball every single day of the week. Same can be said for most other areas of eve. Do they need some lovin? Very much so. Cosmos is a prime example with its bpo rewards that for certain mods are fairly useless compared to named and t2 not to mention faction so noone really uses the content. But its still doable and gets you other rewards like fast stadings increases and some decent research agents so again it can wait for 18 months.
One can even surmise that the silver lining to the fleet fight thunderstorm of doom is that because there has been no ability to field sov destoying cap ship fleets that nullsec is more populated now than it ever was. So basically the lag let anyone with the corp skills and access to a hauler to setup shop and improve his system without fear of getting dropped by PL or the Goons or any nearby bored alliance just for the lulz. So now we have everyone all nice and cozy with plentiful outposts and cynojammers just waiting for lag to be fixed as they milk their upgrades for isk. Plus it should be waaaaaay more fun than if only the large previously established alliances had been able to pwn at will from day one locking everyone else out yet again.
So guys ask yourselves this about the contents of this thread: Was it worth it trying to burn your house down to spite the landlord?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.12 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 12/08/2010 21:30:49
Originally by: Isten Baba Edited by: Isten Baba on 12/08/2010 21:24:14 Edited by: Isten Baba on 12/08/2010 21:23:44
Lag is a symptom, not the disease. The essential problem is CCP (apparently) losing focus on EVE, and instead committing to FPS console stupidity and vampires.
I would understand if CP said "sorry, we screwed up, and we even though we are truly trying, we haven't yet found a soltion to lag". However, I need to know as a customer that (most) of my 30 euros a month (two subs) goes to EVE, and that they are fully committed to it. I am not paying to subsidise other games I will never play.
At the moment I seriously doubt that (PI was very poor, and there are just too many indications to the contrary), but I still hope that CCP will change its strategy.
Apparently ccp are commiting 100% of the devs who can fix lag to fix lag and not sending said lag fixing devs off to make virtual clothes for incarna or map levels for dust. Not to mention trying to hire even moar devs so they can do even more stuff in a single development cycle. They also have a dedicated team working on pi unlike other areas of the game like fleshing out fw etc etc which will get their turn in 18 months. So your point is?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.12 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Isten Baba My point? That I'm a paying customer who loves (the concept of) EVE, and who is very concerned with the direction CCP is taking: shiny new things and other games, rather than improving and expanding the already existing infrastructure. There many, many amazing things that could be done to the EVE universe, and yet I don't see that happening.
I voice my concern beause I still like the game too much to give up on it (ie. unsubscribe). The moment I stop posting will be the moment I don't care anymore. I hope it will not get to that.
Oh, and: 1) as I stated (didn't you read my post?), lag is not the main problem and I assume they are seriously working on it. 2) I have no negative opinion on Incarna in itself, even though I don't think I will be using it a lot. However, I am afraid (given a poor track record) that CCP will simply introduce it half-finished once again, and never truly use its full potential. Too many examples like that already.
Well thats your personal view and I wasn't trying to invalidate it. But the counter point is that if ccp had shelved incarna and dust for 18 months and instead worked on older content for us older players then we still would have gotten this epic lulz of a thread. Only with different whinges. Then there was the whole argument about ccp not focusing on completing a feature before it hits the live servers. Well they made a choice and went all out to make sure incarna and dust both ship as feature complete as possible at the expence of fleshing out playable older content that the the majority of new players won't use up for years anyways and they still can't win in the eyes of the forums. Thats simply the nature of a public gaming forum. The happy people are in the game playing the game and the unhappy people are on the forums playing the forums game. And whilst the dancers might change with the wind the actual dance never stops.
Care to dance?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.13 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Super Whopper Go Zeba GO, try to salvage the unsalvageable with your expert knowledge on EVE! A single loss and kill make you the greateststestestst EVE expert around and we're in awe of your knowledge in regards to bugs, lack of features and lag. Now if only rocks gave you km's.
Says the forum troll alt with zero kills and five losses with probably just over the starting sp on his alt so he could make the witty corp name. We all have our combat alts to go with our forum alts but this forum alt at least has nearly 80 mil sp to use as I wish be it perfect probing skills or full cap ship skills or literally flying anything minnie with complete max skills. Also I have plenty of kills on this character from the nullsec runs in a rapier with alt bomber accounts I used to do. But I don't ever post killmails as its just silly to give away free intel. Why not post killmails? Because then when people see you in local and look you up they all go 'oh its a carebear! lets kill him!' and then the trap is sprung. Besides, the tears from the forum trolls trying to use it against me is hilarious.
Originally by: Ban Doga Well true, nothing we can write on the forum will speed up the work. But sitting here, laughing and trolling won't help either.
Well if thats how you feel then maybe you could convince your thread mates to stop with all the laughing and trolling? The only trolling I personally did in this thread was to counter the other trolling that was already to page 55 by the time I got around to it. Nothing more nothing less. Sorry if the previous trolls in this thread didn't like the competition.
Originally by: Ban Doga Silently accepting that fleet warfare is broken due to lag and unstable grid-loading is really like the ignorant child that keeps telling herself "everything will be fine, someone will fix it". But that requires that someone is aware of the problem and gives a damn about fixing it (hope). Of course the "RAWR FIX IT ALREADY" will appear choleric but ultimately is an expression of "hey, here's a problem, I want that fixed now" (anger).
I have never once said anyone should silently accept it and just go sit in a corner. What I have stated though is that if you are going to voice your opinion then do so in an adult manner and maybe people won't treat them like pouty kids. And a quick glance at the overall forums pretty much leaves me to believe that ccp was informed about it looong ago.
Originally by: Ban Doga I don't think it's a special bonus that lag transformed the new sov-system into a stalemate. If anything it shows the wide consequences of lag and that either CCP accepted those consequences (terribad) or was unaware of them (bad).
The only consequenses I see are that noone can fight in large blobs. Everyone else in nullsec and most especially the alliance leaders who are raking in the iskies from all the uninterrupted production of moon goo and corp taxes from all the ratting and anomoly farming are having a grand old time. So yeah in the context of getting the new sov 2.0 up and running with everyone getting a fair start to improve their territory then lag has been a huge if unintended success.
Originally by: Ban Doga IMO this demonstrates a lack of focus and/or ability of the people working on in-space features and that is a slippery slope. 2 expansions in a row showed these symptoms, I don't want a 3rd one.
2 expansions in a row also added many fixes to the game though fleet lag has not been one of them. IMO you don't judge a companys overall focus and ability over a niche gameplay element even if that element plays greatly in the marketing departments job to sell eve and has a rabidly vocal following from all the players who literally spent years getting to the point they can do them.
Again, trying to burn the house down to spite the landlord is not the best tactic in the world to use and just gets you a heap of ashes with nowhere to sleep.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.13 19:48:00 -
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And since I ran out of space in the last post here is a tidbit for our dear readers in this thread to ponder.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1368315
Also in before the usual 'they only did it because we stamped our feet and fussed like little kids everywhere there was a reply to post button' poast.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.13 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Syn Callibri
Originally by: Zeba
Also in before the usual 'they only did it because we stamped our feet and fussed like little kids everywhere there was a reply to post button' poast.
I have to disagree Zeba...its moar like, 'The PR people we hired finally got the best language together so that we can make it sound like we give a s**t.' It took how long for them to even say anything about it? It would have been more professional to have addressed it before it became as big a bi**h-fest as it has. Thats called good customer relations...oh wait.
Amazing. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Also I didn't realise responding to the usual forum trolls was supposed to be a design priority to actually fixing the issues the game has. If anything the real effect all these blogs will have is to take away the time and most importantly the focus the devs in question need to do their work. It's not a good practice to pull code junkies out of their programming trance to explain themselves to the monkeys. So good going guys for delaying the fix to lag yet again. Proud of yourselves?
Stay away from my house though as I don't want it burnt down.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:03:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 16/08/2010 03:04:39
Originally by: Shaalira D'arc The result:
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Best European Online Game EVE Online: Tyrannis
Sorry, I can't help but laugh. We should have started a betting pool.
HAHAHAHAHA!
Seriously..
edit; Thanks everyone for all bumps! Eve couldn't have done it without you!
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ivan En'Vec However, this isn't something CCP will ever be able to tack onto an awards list without tons of player attention being drawn to this thread. You won't see them put out a news bulletin on this one, guaranteed.
It didn't work the first time so what makes you think it woll work the second? Or the third, or fourth, or yadda yadda yadda. Bet it gets put on the front page tommorrow and has a special little 'x site lurves us' spot on an upcoming advertisement.
So gaiz? U mad u got beat at your own lobbyist smear campaign game?
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Pesky LaRue Congrats to CCP - now, the game needs a LOT of love, but this is still THE best MMOG out there.
Yes indeed. Get ****ing incarna and dust out the door and tweaked to the rational players satisfaction so you can get to fixing faction warfare.(and that other stuff too like fleet fights I guess ;p)
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:50:00 -
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Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Pesky LaRue Congrats to CCP - now, the game needs a LOT of love, but this is still THE best MMOG out there.
Yes indeed. Get ****ing incarna and dust out the door and tweaked to the rational players satisfaction so you can get to fixing FACTION WARFARE!!!
completely agree!
Fixed.
Also: Bah. If the fleet fight guys can whinge about their part of the game then I can whinge about my part of the game.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.16 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ban Doga Actually the voting proved that fleet fights, faction warfare and PI in the current implementation make the best MMO in Europe.
Yes, because thats all there is to do in eve.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.16 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: FinnAgain Zero Meh. How to win the award in three easy steps.
1. Get together some folks, have them make a bunch of Gmail/hotmail/yahoo/whatever email accounts. 2. Have them register those accounts to vote, then vote for EVE. 3. Astroturfing complete, award received.
Just saying.
So ccp gets the top award for ballot stuffing too? Total win and perfectly within eves expected behaviour codes.
Of course ballot box stuffing tactics like that would never have occurred to the other competitors to use.
Just saying.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.16 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue It makes for entertaining threads I guess, but people who actually read Zulu's dev blog or do other things than just big fleet fights can see how overblown their rants are.
I know I had a blast hotdropping their posts left and right.
Also: Back up to the top big boy. Can't let this thread get below page one remember kids? Originally by: bitter vetiranarian The image of zeba and pesky reading the results and touching themselves while gloat-posting in this thread is strangely arousing.
Congrats CCP. Money talks, even weird Icelandic money that has Bjork's face all over it.
You seem to be laboring under the impression that this award will be actually seen by anyone who's own game forums did't link the site and so is worth gloating about.. It's simply some nub marketing site award noone cares about to drum up some creds for the EU game developers. Thats why this thread had no effect on the outcome. People read the first few pages of poasts and /facepalmed at the contents then went and voted for who they wanted.
The non-vocal majority of players have spoken.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.16 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Syn Callibri Ummm Zeba, if the non-vocal majority of players have spoken...where does that make you?
I'm simply vocal. Call me a loose forum cannon if you wish.
Originally by: Syn Callibri All this award does is let CCP say "See, we dont have to listen to you and we can still win awards"...meh, whatever.
I'm sure that small knot of protesters outside a government/corporation office holding the signs with 'Save the blue prickle backed grasshopper from extinction! Vote no to the new factory/school/whatevah!' feel exactly the same way when they get ignored.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.16 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Syn Callibri "Loose forum cannon".
*bows eloquently*
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.16 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 16/08/2010 21:35:31
Originally by: bitter vetiranarian
Originally by: Zeba You seem to be laboring under the impression that this award will be actually seen by anyone who's own game forums did't link the site and so is worth gloating about.. It's simply some nub marketing site award noone cares about to drum up some creds for the EU game developers. Thats why this thread had no effect on the outcome. People read the first few pages of poasts and /facepalmed at the contents then went and voted for who they wanted.
The non-vocal majority of players have spoken.
no i'm labouring under the impression that I'm turned on by thinking about you stroking it while "pwning" the non-fanbois.
Take me you wild stallion!
edit; also its no fun if they are willing..
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.17 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mr M
I endorse this sentiment.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.17 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Lahari It was also a great chance to drop that uglydance link.
Agreed.
Just to gloat a little myself, here's a prophecy of mine back on page 78.
Originally by: Professor Tarantula Watch them win, and cause an even larger community outrage.
However, I'd like you all to refrain from becoming my followers and treating me like divinity, and instead send me monies as a sign of your reverence.
Wait! What happened to the community outrage?
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.17 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Zeba Wait! What happened to the community outrage?
It certainly stoked the fires again, but with such a peak at the beginning it does pale in comparison a little. All the really angry people either had a brain aneurysm or quit by now.
Sounds like a win on all fronts then. Eve gets a well justified award,(provided you don't do fleet fights ;p) the forums get a bit quiter and people who get angry in real life over a game can cool off and get some perspective.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.18 06:29:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 18/08/2010 06:32:10
Poor Finn. He got the 'Node in MO-YDG just died' thread locked for excessive trolling and is getting steady pwnd in this one by Ranger 1.
Oh the hugemanatee..
*kicks back and lets the second string deal with the third rate trolls*
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.19 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Esperium I just realized that I haven't posted in this threadnaught yet. the situation is now taken care of.
Indeed. Eve won. Queue the haters.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Plac3Holder You are really, really stupid if you think the pathetic, childish emo-raging in this thread meant anything.
You are really, really stupid if you dismiss the majority of the posts on this thread because of a few ragers.
But what if the few ragers had made the majority of the posts?
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Plac3Holder You are really, really stupid if you think the pathetic, childish emo-raging in this thread meant anything.
You are really, really stupid if you dismiss the majority of the posts on this thread because of a few ragers.
But what if the few ragers had made the majority of the posts?
You made the majority of the posts.
As an individual sure and I clocked in at 82 as of the time of this post. But in the context of the 2527 current posts in this thread I barely made a ripple. Lets be fair as it took a lot of posting with this single character to keep up with the fullout alt poaster gangbang assault of doom you guys threw at me once I joined the fun at page 56.
So gratz again Eve Online for your recent public popularity award win that the players themselves voted for.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba But what if the few ragers had made the majority of the posts?
You made the majority of the posts.
As an individual sure and I clocked in at 82 as of the time of this post. But in the context of the 2527 current posts in this thread I barely made a ripple. Lets be fair as it took a lot of posting with this single character to keep up with the fullout alt poaster gangbang assault of doom you guys threw at me once I joined the fun at page 56.
So gratz again Eve Online for your recent public popularity award win that the players themselves voted for.
But what if a few carebears had contributed the majority of the votes?
Carebears play the game too. Along with pirates and antipies and traders and producers and miners and mission runners and pos managers and small gang pvpers and nullsec anomaly farmers or a thousand other little sandboxy corners of the game that are just fine and dandy.
Unless of course you are implying that it was a vote that was restricted to just the fleet fight guys. If so then even they left you cold as eve still won.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba Carebears play the game too.
Carebears don't play the game. They're just human mining macros.
They do however fund the majority of the game. If you kicked all the carebears out tommorow then what would be left wouldn't even pay for the lights let alone a high tech server farm. But go ahead and keep trying to burn down the house to spite the landlord*.
*I herd they fireproofed everything so good luck with that.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba They do however fund the majority of the game.
More proof of how you fanbois see players. We're just here to "fund" CCP.
So you are saying that you are a carebear?
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba They do however fund the majority of the game.
More proof of how you fanbois see players. We're just here to "fund" CCP.
So you are saying that you are a carebear?
I'm saying that you are a carebear.
Not by the way you worded it.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba So you are saying that you are a carebear?
I'm saying that you are a carebear.
Not by the way you worded it.
"You are a carebear."
Depends on what character I'm using tbh. Can't get much epic pew pew if you are running some trade items around in an orca to make isk to purchase the cap ships and hanger full of shineys for the combat alts. Though tbh I don't really use this specific character much anymore as I'm pretty much full time in faction war with a couple of other characters.
However I did go ahead and fit myself out a nice suicide triage niddy just in case the combat alts got in major trouble with with some pricy stuff. Luckily I have some pretty good corp mates who also have ties to some pretty good mates in other corps so I've never needed it.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba I'm sometimes a carebear.
Should I care?
You must because you keep replying to me when I never even mentioned your name. I mean people who don't care obviously don't poast. amirite?
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba I'm sometimes a carebear.
Should I care?
You must because you keep replying to me when I never even mentioned your name. I mean people who don't care obviously don't poast. amirite?
It's a rhetorical question.
They why poast it?
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
It's a rhetorical question.
They why poast it?
Why answer it?
Because you poasted it silly. This is a forum after all..
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba They why poast it?
Why answer it?
Because you poasted it silly. This is a forum after all..
I don't remember poasting anything.
This explains much.
Btw think we can make it to page 100? I'm game.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sajad This explains much. The troll is spamming the thread.
So we agree! Take away all the troll poasts and we would probably max out at around six pages as per the contents of my initial post at page 56.
Glad you finally came around mate.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:45:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 21/08/2010 04:45:32
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba Take away all the troll poasts
If you want your posts removed, why post them in the first place?
Now your starting to quote out of context to pull the thread completely off topic. Not very nice and will be prone to get the thread locked at this late a date. Unless of course that was your plan all along..
Oh wait a new page!
Gratz yet again eve for the public opinion win in the Best European Online Game catagory!
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba Now ... completely off ... course
I agree. You are forcing this discussion completely off course.
How can I force the discussion of an award site thread for eve off course when I put up a link to the award site with eve's win listed in it inside the post you hacked to death?
Originally by: Ji Sama EVE is a **** poor game, I cannot believe the audacity of CCP when they can even think that we would vote this game for best mmo ever made!
FIRST FIX LAG; THEN I WILL VOTE!
Also totally fail of CCP to sticky this, and then when I started stating the obvious problems with this, the took it off sticky, because they want to hide this thread.
But I will keep on complaining about lag because it is ruining my immersion and gaming experience, and I pay to play this game, and if CCP does not fix the lag, I will never resub again.
Take that...
Oh you charmer you..
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 05:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba How can I force the discussion of an award site off course when I put up a link to the award site inside the post?
Your claim, not mine. See, I even quoted it.
Some bits missing in that quote is seems but thats been normal for the last page or so. But you did say on a previous page you didn't even remember making any poasts at all in relation to a few other poasts you have made that are still there.
How long you been up mate?
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.21 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba How long you been up mate?
Longer than EVE has. So a few hours give or take.
/rimshot
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.22 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers A chunk of the posts are ragers Zeba, but not the majority.
Pages 1-65 or so had some quality content from big names. As a threads lifespan lengthens, it devolves into terrible posting and nasty little back and forths. Such is the internet.
I urge you not to dismiss those who quietly made sense because of a few (alright more than a few) jackasses. By all means though, keep getting people worked up. (No Sarcasm.)
It's fun to watch.
I never dismissed any of the 'quality' posts such as they were even if all they really were was a slightly moar polite way to say 'ffs fix your game ccp I want to fight'. Also I only ever responded to the trolls the entire time after my first post on page 56. Remember it was you guys who attacked me at ever turn for giving my opinion. (which obviously didn't sit well with some of the people in the thread. gosh darn opposing opinions on a gaming forums.. ;p)
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.24 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Mexbrutor So how did the voting go for ya CCPee?
They won.
Yeah I know, hard to believe what with the entirety of eve being completely unplayable.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.27 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar It backfired so much that they didn't even put up a news item over their victory on the front page.
Well to be honest at nearly 90 pages and 170k+ views for this thread that had plenty of posts near the end detailing the win it would have been kinda redundant I would imagine.
Though in ccp's case it would be best to leave sleeping dogs lie and not rub it in like us forum whoors get to do.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.08.29 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula I will of course retract this if and when CCP makes good on all their promises.
~Fifteen and a half months~
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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