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Fam FanFan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.23 06:11:00 -
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Verge was given an unfair advantage against the Exodus team by CCP!
According to sources, before the start of the match some of the Verge ships were allowed, by CCP, to warp to the Exodus staging beacon This being that each team has a staging beacon that they warp to before entering the tournament arena. Among those that entered was the team captain for Verge. This in turn allowed Verge to warp in at a better position to counter the Exodus fleet.
The questions now become: Did Verge deserve to win that fight or even the entire tournament? Should CCP have delayed the fight for reshipping due to their error? Was it an accident that CCP allowed some of Verge to see the Exodus team before the match? Should there be some recompense from CCP to Exodus for this folly? Should there be any actions taken against the CCP member for allowing such an act to happen?
Other questions and discussions may arise but I leave that to the community. All I know is that this leaves a sower taste for an overall great tournament.
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Hatsumi Kobayashi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
146
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Posted - 2012.07.23 06:15:00 -
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yes dis scandel lives me vairee sower azuel CAUTION
SNIGGS |

Haargoth Civire
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
6
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Posted - 2012.07.23 06:33:00 -
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Always someone 
Troll or no troll, I was team captain and played in 5 of our matches and that nvr happend.. every fight was fraps'd and won fair n square.
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Fam FanFan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.23 06:39:00 -
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No troll, and it wouldn't be frapsed since it happened before the fight. |

tasman devil
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2012.07.23 06:46:00 -
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Actually what I have heard the subsystems on the HUN Tengu offlined before the match... I'd really see a rematch on that too! :( I don't belive in reincarnation I've never believed in it in my previous lives either... |

NSA Bivas
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
1
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Posted - 2012.07.23 06:47:00 -
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Fam FanFan wrote:Verge was given an unfair advantage against the Exodus team by CCP!
According to sources, before the start of the match some of the Verge ships were allowed, by CCP, to warp to the Exodus staging beacon This being that each team has a staging beacon that they warp to before entering the tournament arena. This in turn allowed Verge to warp in at a better position to counter the Exodus fleet.
The questions now become: Did Verge deserve to win that fight or even the entire tournament? Should CCP have delayed the fight for reshipping due to their error? Was it an accident that CCP allowed some of Verge to see the Exodus team before the match? Should there be some recompense from CCP to Exodus for this folly? Should there be any actions taken against the CCP member for allowing such an act to happen?
Other questions and discussions may arise but I leave that to the community. All I know is that this leaves a sour taste for an overall great tournament.
yes is true i was allowed to warp to their beacon in a clocky ship whit a secret scanner that can scan ships while being clocked then we decided on the best team to counter them and we got transported all back to reship and then we got all transported back |

Katie Frost
Asgard. Exodus.
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Posted - 2012.07.23 06:54:00 -
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This neutral forum alt is correct! We have been obviously cheated by some twisted conspiracy!
I demand that Verge states in this topic that Exodus. is in fact the winner of the ATX!
Contract Etana's to Katie Frost... alive and unspoiled. |

NSA Bivas
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
2
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Posted - 2012.07.23 08:05:00 -
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Katie Frost wrote:This neutral forum alt is correct! We have been obviously cheated by some twisted conspiracy!
I demand that Verge states in this topic that Exodus. is in fact the winner of the ATX!
Contract Etana's to Katie Frost... alive and unspoiled.
sry i'm a gypsy and my tradition states that when u get a pretty name like that u need to **** it so etan's been but raped, face raped, ear raped and i had a gang bang whit wargod on here who love to armpit ****, we can return then but only if u liked a raped etana maybe u can salvage something out of her
there is someone who can confirm that wargod likes armpit sex in the eve community i will not say her name but she may step up |

Hatsumi Kobayashi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
146
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Posted - 2012.07.23 08:16:00 -
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Haargoth Civire wrote:Always someone  Troll or no troll, I was team captain and played in 5 of our matches and that nvr happend.. every fight was fraps'd and won fair n square.
DISQUALIFY THIS MAN RIGHT NOW CAUTION
SNIGGS |

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
648
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Posted - 2012.07.23 08:16:00 -
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Can't be that big of a scandel, if you only give it four !!!!, that's average at best. shiptoastin' liek a baws |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
936
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Posted - 2012.07.23 09:04:00 -
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Fam FanFan wrote:Verge was given an unfair advantage against the Exodus team by CCP!
According to sources, before the start of the match some of the Verge ships were allowed, by CCP, to warp to the Exodus staging beacon This being that each team has a staging beacon that they warp to before entering the tournament arena. It allowed Verge to warp in at a better position to counter the Exodus fleet.
The questions now become: Did Verge deserve to win that fight or even the entire tournament? Should CCP have delayed the fight for reshipping due to their error? Was it an accident that CCP allowed some of Verge to see the Exodus team before the match? Should there be some recompense from CCP to Exodus for this folly? Should there be any actions taken against the CCP member for allowing such an act to happen?
Other questions and discussions may arise but I leave that to the community. All I know is that this leaves a sour taste for an overall great tournament.
Nobody cares but you.
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Armeggeda iscariah
Ganja Labs Exodus.
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Posted - 2012.07.23 09:14:00 -
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Meh who cares , ***** over with. was a GF and even though no one knows who we are or cares , making that far was damn sweet. --------------------------------------He who dares , wins. |

Naomi Wildfire
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
123
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Posted - 2012.07.23 09:18:00 -
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Sour along with Bacon .. sounds good |

Patrakele
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
58
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Posted - 2012.07.23 09:19:00 -
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IMPOSSIBRU |

Retardat
EVE Corporation 690846955
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Posted - 2012.07.23 09:41:00 -
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THIS IS OUTRAGES , SRSLy WE SHOULD RIOT THE STREETS |

Officer Nyota Uhura
267
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:23:00 -
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Fam FanFan wrote: According to sources, before the start of the match some of the Verge ships were allowed, by CCP, to warp to the Exodus staging beacon This being that each team has a staging beacon that they warp to before entering the tournament arena. It allowed Verge to warp in at a better position to counter the Exodus fleet.
Aren't the beacons within scan range from each other anyway? |

Hey You
Spricer Raiden.
7
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:39:00 -
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Fam FanFan wrote:Verge was given an unfair advantage against the Exodus team by CCP!
According to sources, before the start of the match some of the Verge ships were allowed, by CCP, to warp to the Exodus staging beacon This being that each team has a staging beacon that they warp to before entering the tournament arena. It allowed Verge to warp in at a better position to counter the Exodus fleet.
The questions now become: Did Verge deserve to win that fight or even the entire tournament? Should CCP have delayed the fight for reshipping due to their error? Was it an accident that CCP allowed some of Verge to see the Exodus team before the match? Should there be some recompense from CCP to Exodus for this folly? Should there be any actions taken against the CCP member for allowing such an act to happen?
Other questions and discussions may arise but I leave that to the community. All I know is that this leaves a sour taste for an overall great tournament.
Tough luck.
About same thing happened to us. in our match versus Evoke we fielded our Flagship Bhaalgorn which we submitted under name Stoffer disband this! Due to hectic preparations of the match i forgot to rename it to that name as i was more focused to sort out last details for my team. We fielded it under name Flag.
After the match we expected either some penalty or even disqualification for Evoke match. Noone from CCP said anything about it and we concluded that we are fine.
For Mildly Intoxicated match we wanted to field our flagship setup again. There was some word on it on ISD forums etc that we did this mistake. So i acted upon it when GM contacted me about move preparations and asked clarification. 10 Minutes before the move we were told we cant field our flagship. At that point there was no time left to do refits and setup dont work without faction stuff.
So we had to go with whatever we had left sorting last ships literally seconds before the move.
Is it fair to rid tournament of 30 billion isk flagship? Most expensive one ever fielded since flagship rule was introduced over such minor rule infraction? With 3 draclira neutralizers, 3 Vizan heat sinks and 3 Gotan webs and Cormack Smartbomb?
Draw your own conclusions.
In retrospect if we fielded our Evoke match setup Mildly would lose the match with 0 chances vs that setup. Instead we went with ECM setup and ran on perfect counter more or less. That combined with flawless flying from Mildly sealed the match despite our best efforts.
So congrats to Mildly.
Thanks CCP for tournament. Thanks for all our opponents for good fights.
I have to add that im proud on my Team. You guys did great. |

Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:02:00 -
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Hey You wrote:Fam FanFan wrote:Verge was given an unfair advantage against the Exodus team by CCP!
According to sources, before the start of the match some of the Verge ships were allowed, by CCP, to warp to the Exodus staging beacon This being that each team has a staging beacon that they warp to before entering the tournament arena. It allowed Verge to warp in at a better position to counter the Exodus fleet.
The questions now become: Did Verge deserve to win that fight or even the entire tournament? Should CCP have delayed the fight for reshipping due to their error? Was it an accident that CCP allowed some of Verge to see the Exodus team before the match? Should there be some recompense from CCP to Exodus for this folly? Should there be any actions taken against the CCP member for allowing such an act to happen?
Other questions and discussions may arise but I leave that to the community. All I know is that this leaves a sour taste for an overall great tournament. Tough luck. About same thing happened to us. in our match versus Evoke we fielded our Flagship Bhaalgorn which we submitted under name Stoffer disband this! Due to hectic preparations of the match i forgot to rename it to that name as i was more focused to sort out last details for my team. We fielded it under name Flag. After the match we expected either some penalty or even disqualification for Evoke match. Noone from CCP said anything about it and we concluded that we are fine. For Mildly Intoxicated match we wanted to field our flagship setup again. There was some word on it on ISD forums etc that we did this mistake. So i acted upon it when GM contacted me about move preparations and asked clarification. 10 Minutes before the move we were told we cant field our flagship. At that point there was no time left to do refits and setup dont work without faction stuff. So we had to go with whatever we had left sorting last ships literally seconds before the move. Is it fair to rid tournament of 30 billion isk flagship? Most expensive one ever fielded since flagship rule was introduced over such minor rule infraction? With 3 draclira neutralizers, 3 Vizan heat sinks and 3 Gotan webs and Cormack Smartbomb? Draw your own conclusions. In retrospect if we fielded our Evoke match setup Mildly would lose the match with 0 chances vs that setup. Instead we went with ECM setup and ran on perfect counter more or less. That combined with flawless flying from Mildly sealed the match despite our best efforts. So congrats to Mildly. Thanks CCP for tournament. Thanks for all our opponents for good fights. I have to add that im proud on my Team. You guys did great.
I agree the flagship rules are ******** and also may as well be renamed to "Pimped Bhaalmobile" instead of flagship because all others battleships are worthless to bring besides maybe a vindi. |

Raze Zindonas
Asgard. Exodus.
12
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Posted - 2012.07.23 17:10:00 -
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Ugh. This isn't a big deal. Apparently they wrapped through us so we knew before hand it was an eos and a ishkur. That was it. Did it change the fact we lost? Not at all. We contacted the GM and told them about the issue. We where more worried about one of our vindi pilots who dc'ed while on the beacon. Gf voc won, we lost. We had fun flying in the tourney. There is always next year. |

Royal Jedi
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
30
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Posted - 2012.07.23 17:41:00 -
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Nice troll |

Anope
The Pro Choice Exodus.
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Posted - 2012.07.23 17:43:00 -
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This is almost all wrong, First of all no the beacons are not in scan range of eachothers, second of all they never warped to us, when you are brought into system your team is dropped at your beacon in formation. When there team was brought into system something happened where they started being dropped at our beacon bumping our ships around. No ship models appeared but a few of them did flash on our overview, no idea if they even seen our comp but we seen half of there's. Due to a disconnect by one of our kroni it was the least of our concern, and it affected our game plan in no way, the only thing it could have affected is them warping to range because they seen our comp. None the less we did get on top of them, and the fight played out more or less how it should have and they won due to some excellent piloting and a few key mistakes by us. They were never allowed to warp to us and it was a minor mistake made by CCP for dropping them on us. |

Possum's Awesome
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
54
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Posted - 2012.07.23 20:09:00 -
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Hey You wrote:Tough luck.
About same thing happened to us. in our match versus Evoke we fielded our Flagship Bhaalgorn which we submitted under name Stoffer disband this! Due to hectic preparations of the match i forgot to rename it to that name as i was more focused to sort out last details for my team. We fielded it under name Flag.
After the match we expected either some penalty or even disqualification for Evoke match. Noone from CCP said anything about it and we concluded that we are fine.
For Mildly Intoxicated match we wanted to field our flagship setup again. There was some word on it on ISD forums etc that we did this mistake. So i acted upon it when GM contacted me about move preparations and asked clarification. 10 Minutes before the move we were told we cant field our flagship. At that point there was no time left to do refits and setup dont work without faction stuff.
So we had to go with whatever we had left sorting last ships literally seconds before the move.
Yeah when they mentioned this, I thought it was the most ****-tarded thing I've ever heard... the rule makers/enforcers need to get their heads out of their collective arses. "Oh your ship had the wrong name, you can't use that ship!" ****-ing idiots. Possum's Awesome : Awesome Possum
Unjustly accused and condemned for his crimes. |

Gods Coldblood
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
73
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Posted - 2012.07.23 20:22:00 -
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You MAD BRO?
well then....
Come at me bro My lastest video:-áBoom |

Calderus Rex
Never Enough Ammo Exodus.
0
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Posted - 2012.07.23 21:06:00 -
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Fam FanFan gtfo. Verge beat us straight up. Great fight, won by the better team. Period.
There were minor bugs/bumps that have been passed to CCP to improve next year's tournament. Those issues did not affect this fight. I sure hope your main is not in our alliance b/c you are a douche. |

Vytone
Ganja Labs Exodus.
6
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Posted - 2012.07.23 21:46:00 -
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Royal Jedi wrote:Nice troll, its a shame that some people have to try and ruin what was in my opinion the best match of the tournament. We too had some D/C issues before the fight and one of our guys had a blank black screen when he was transported to the tournament system.
Neither team had an advantage over the other in this match. We had an amazing fight and it should be remembered as such.
Agreed
GF's were had by all, you guys deserved to win because you outplayed us congratz and maybe we will see each other on the battlefield. |

Apathetic Brent
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
13
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Posted - 2012.07.23 21:56:00 -
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I can say, with no doubt in my mind that VoC was the hardest competition we faced in the tournament. Their pilots and their communication was absolutely amazing. It's not very often a group of pilots make me feel useless. I can't give enough kudos to them. They deserved this victory. |

Anope
The Pro Choice Exodus.
21
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:33:00 -
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Apathetic Brent wrote:I can say, with no doubt in my mind that VoC was the hardest competition we faced in the tournament. Their pilots and their communication was absolutely amazing. It's not very often a group of pilots make me feel useless. I can't give enough kudos to them. They deserved this victory.
Oh our B team Rote always down playing us ;)
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Apathetic Brent
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
14
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Posted - 2012.07.23 23:16:00 -
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DO YOU WANT TO ******* 1V1 M8? |

Anope
The Pro Choice Exodus.
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Posted - 2012.07.24 02:19:00 -
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Apathetic Brent wrote:DO YOU WANT TO ******* 1V1 M8? Bro my alliance is 3rd best in the world! |

Belegarath
Asgard. Exodus.
1
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Posted - 2012.07.24 04:14:00 -
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Dude... whoever is bitching...
The match was awesome.
Verge came in at range in almost every fleet comp that I can remember the entire tournament. Why would that change here?
Beat us fair and square.
Was fun, will do again :-)
Job well done by Verge to win it all - congrats. |
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