Tedric
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Posted - 2011.05.20 22:49:00 -
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Edited by: Tedric on 20/05/2011 22:49:55
 Originally by: Akita T
Only if demand for the specific T2 item goes down noticeably, or if the number of T2 BPOs for that item somehow magically increases.
T2 BPO ownership on an item where invention is not profitable is in turn not very profitable either, in fact, quite a few T2 items occasionally manufacture at a LOSS even from a researched T2 BPO for very low demand items.
The only T2 BPOs that are really worth producing from are those for T2 items that are also WORTH INVENTING, thanks to high demand. For them, the only effect T2 BPOs have is limiting the number of inventors that can compete succesfully, nothing more, nothing less. It certainly DOES NOT reduce the invention profitability - the other inventors do that when they accept lower profits when they invent that item.
Having talked to quite a few people and devs i've noticed an interesting trend in the last few years. Most of the profitable BPOs (ships generally and drones) tend to be bought up by 0.0 alliances, or production corps within 0.0 alliances. I have no hard proof of this, but this is making the market kind of hard to read when determining the effect of T2 BPOs on teh market (as opposed to 0.0 warfare, which is kind of outside the market i.e. very far from jita).
I used to have the opinion that T2 BPOs had a stabilizing effect on the T2 market, that they sort of established the low price of the item. But because quite a lot of people are inventing -> making without looking carefully at the cost, this effect is kind of being erroded. it is also interesting to note that less than about 1/5 of all T2 ships on the market come from T2 BPOs (I crunched this number a year or so ago, guestimating that about 30% were held by alliances and never saw the trading hubs.
I had a conversation with a Dev in about 2005 and found out that there are 40 T2 ship BPOs of each type released through the lottery in two groups. Every other T2 item had two sets of 40 given out in the lottery. also they were watching __very__ carefully the useage and loss of these BPOs, as to what they are doing now.... i have no idea.
Akita, in your initial post, you gave a total T2 BPO value of about 40T isk, as kind-of current value, I would put that close to about 80-100T, mostly due to T2 haulers, hulks, NH, some intercptors and quite a few drone.
As to finding a reason to remove them? I can't. A reballance is justifiable, but I still feel they give stability to the market in terms of the low end price.
tedric.
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