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Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.07.29 20:39:00 - [1] Originally by: news item 'With the help of the EVE community on the test server, we believe we are close to some investigative breakthroughs and will continue to relay any progress via our developer blogs.' Translation: Nullsec is about as populated as we can expect and is almost to our projected territoral claim goals of everyone and his startup alliance getting a bit of color on the map with full cynojammer support and plentiful supercaps to defend it. So its about time to turn off the lag switch now and finally let them fight it out on mostly even terms instead of the unholy one sided bloodbath it would have been with no new territory being claimed by anyone but the top few major players if we had not borked fleet fights. Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.07.30 03:54:00 - [2] Originally by: BuckStrider Quote: But, you can't put out this, and then not acknowledge that you COMPLETELY FAIL to deliver on any aspect of anything that's happening in that video. Of any thread running right now....This line is the best response of any. 10/10 Wtb: Dominion trailer that shows a 1000 ship fleet fight. At the most there might have beem a bit over a hundred in system if you had actually took the time to pause the video and count the ships. That amount of pilots in a single system is perfectly playable right now as long as you tell ccp ahead of time. But hey lets not let silly stuff like logic get in the way of a good rant thread. Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.07.30 04:38:00 - [3] Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia not to mention it's spouting out of the mouth of a person that is in a 5000 person alliance that's only way of accomplishing ANYthing in this game is through blobbing to the point of crashing a node. i bet good money he's not going to pay special attention to anything but the little world he's constructed in his head And this spouting out of a mouth of a gutless alt that has no balls to post with his NC main and canÆs accomplish ANYthing in the game without NAPing half of 0.0 and then whining about the state of the game because he canÆt bring 2K alts in to a fight and win by default. Take it to caod you morons. It's not like either of you has the slightest influance on your alliances actions unless you are claiming to be one of the 10 or so pilots at the top of the food chain that actually run the entire show.. Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.07.30 04:50:00 - [4] Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas We had a fight a few weeks ago, it would have topped out at 300ish (Just GF/Test and Atlas) and we were getting module and grid lag. Three hundred.. Well that sucks. But being curious was it an ad hoc fight that escalated from a smaller conflict? Or was it a pre planned fight on a reinforced node that ccp was notified about? Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.07.30 17:42:00 - [5] Originally by: Irritating Troll Originally by: Zeba Originally by: BuckStrider Quote: But, you can't put out this, and then not acknowledge that you COMPLETELY FAIL to deliver on any aspect of anything that's happening in that video. Of any thread running right now....This line is the best response of any. 10/10 Wtb: Dominion trailer that shows a 1000 ship fleet fight. At the most there might have beem a bit over a hundred in system if you had actually took the time to pause the video and count the ships. That amount of pilots in a single system is perfectly playable right now as long as you tell ccp ahead of time. But hey lets not let silly stuff like logic get in the way of a good rant thread. Epic failsauce, and lack of forum situational awareness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq2oxt7Nrxo&annotation_id=annotation_138481&feature=iv Pay special attention to what is said at 1:30. The game IS advertised as being able to sustain those gigantic engagements. The video he had linked was the Dominion trailer not the Butterfly Effect so what was that about forum situational awareness? As far as what as said about epic fleet fights with thousands of players at 1:30? Welp the Butterfly Effect trailer came out before Dominion when epic thousand ship fleet fights were still doable. So maybe ccp should go back and edit it then just to make you happy? Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.07.31 06:14:00 - [6] Originally by: tmasher Originally by: Kylod I just hope that the features bring in enough new subscribers so that CCP can then allocate the extra revenue to fix the problem. Kinda a chicken and egg scenerio. It won't. CCP will most likely continue on the downward spiral to seduce more and more new players at an increasing rate because there's more money in it for them. The number of new players they can bring in by flashing shiny new things to gamers outweighs the number of old players they'd maintain by actually addressing the now-uncountable number of problems plaguing every single aspect of this game. For every disgruntled vet that quits Eve there are 10 new people signing up. This new report by a more-or-less popular external 3rd party is a step in the right direction. You want to force CCP to address these issues? Start scaring potential new players off by giving Eve the bad press it deserves. So much anger out of so few players. We all realize that fleet fights suck arse but really what does that have to do with the vast majority of players who never see any lag whatsoever in their daily routines? So to make your argument a little clearer could you maybe list every single uncountable problem that plagues ever single aspect of eve? I mean I like to dabble in pretty much everything eve has to offer past lulz fleet fights that exist to really only settle some e-peen score a couple of the major alliance leaders have with each other. Lets be realistic. Most alliances are run by less than 10 players with the thousands of other members pretty much being cannon fodder and mules with absolutely no say in anything. So who the hell is going to quit? 10 players with too much ego or the other few thousand players who are just as happy grinding l4 missions as they are grinding pos down to hull? This my friends is the real motivation behind all the rage atm: A bunch of silly e-peening players pulling the wool over their entier alliances eyes just to make sure their egos are stoked. Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.07.31 18:41:00 - [7] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Zeba Originally by: tmasher Originally by: Kylod I just hope that the features bring in enough new subscribers so that CCP can then allocate the extra revenue to fix the problem. Kinda a chicken and egg scenerio. It won't. CCP will most likely continue on the downward spiral to seduce more and more new players at an increasing rate because there's more money in it for them. The number of new players they can bring in by flashing shiny new things to gamers outweighs the number of old players they'd maintain by actually addressing the now-uncountable number of problems plaguing every single aspect of this game. For every disgruntled vet that quits Eve there are 10 new people signing up. This new report by a more-or-less popular external 3rd party is a step in the right direction. You want to force CCP to address these issues? Start scaring potential new players off by giving Eve the bad press it deserves. So much anger out of so few players. We all realize that fleet fights suck arse but really what does that have to do with the vast majority of players who never see any lag whatsoever in their daily routines? Are you really this ignorant, or are you just playing devil's advocate here? Most people who've been playing more than a couple of months have at least an inkling of how the hi-sec and 0.0 economies affect each other. Just to give you the most obvious example: where do you think the low end minerals to build all those capitals and supercaps comes from? What effect on a humble hi-sec miner do you think lag making fleet combat impractical has had? You act like nullsec corps are the only ones that use caps and supercaps. My humble litle fw corp I am currently in has a few titans, several dozen sc with scores of carriers and dreads and goes out regularly to kill other caps and supercaps. We are not the only small corp in fw to have these things and moar and moar are getting them every day. So no, laggy unplayable nullsec fleet fights have little impact on eve in general as all the other stuff in nullsec works just fine like production pos and ratting or exploring or all the other stuff that makes the economy tick. Hell it can be argued that fw has taken over the top position for daily ship destuction long before dominion came out so again not being able to have blobby fleet fights has not been an issue on profitability or market strength. It might also be said that with the overall peace in nullsec due to not being able to easily take someones territory that production is at an all time high with no breaks due to a moon changing hands along with the need to feed all those ships to the low sec corps that are using and moar importantly losing them daily. Saying all that I still sympathise with the guys whose fun has been quashed due to unplayable fleet fights and hope ccp fixes it soon. But to say that not being able to have blobby fleet fights is killing or even negativly effecting eve in a major way is simply political spin to get ccp to somehow fix lag sooner. So whats the score on that tactic now if measured in threads? 1,370,374,296 attempts with 0 success? lol. Time for a new tactic guys as this one is just not working at all.. Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.08.01 06:45:00 - [8] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Zeba guff Right, because FW burns through ships at anything remotely like the same rate as 0.0 sov war? Saying that what happens in 0.0 does not affect hi-sec is just as ignorant and dishonest as saying that 0.0 isn't affected by hi-sec. But whatever. Why argue? If CCP carry on like they have been we'll find out definitely one way or the other, right? Why waste energy speculating. Fw burns through far more hulls than nullsec on any given day even before teh dominion lag fest lulz. Granted nullsec might get the top spot for part of a day when a few hundred caps go up in smoke during a fight but thats just a tiny blip compared to the daily destruction of fw. C'mon Malcanis I know you are a nullsec player and all but I also thought you had some common market sense too. Nullsec gets all the press because they have the big huge fights every once in a while but fw trumps nullsec on daily carnage and always has. Don't believe me? Then just start looking at the four fw killboards and then also look at the map on a daily basis. Notice all those huge blobs of kills in low sec compared to the few and far between blips in nullsec? Fw gets faaaaaar more average kills per day than nullsec could ever hope to achieve. Also fw drives the economy far better than nullsec due to the vast difference in ships and mods used whilst nullsec tends to be only bs and cap ships for the major fights. I would also wager that fw has a higher percentage of daily active players too. Diversity ftw. Also to comment on the last part of your post if every single nullsec alliance quit tommorow in protest it would actually be less than the amount of botters ccp booted during holy rage. And thats figuring in that every member of every alliance quit instead of the moar likely outcome of the top few annoyed alliance leaders quiting whilst the thousands of cannon fodder members simply went on to something else in the game like they already do 95% of the time between ops. Tbh mate I think you might be a bit too close to the 'problem' to see it clearly for what it really is. Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.08.01 06:58:00 - [9] Originally by: Sebesto 'CCP has invested significant time and resources throughout EVE's history on increasing the performance of fleet fights. We've always had a team of developers devoted to improving our technology and in recent years we made exponential headway through massive server upgrades and initiatives like "Stackless IO". Quoted from http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257782 If you have a team that is dedicated to making lag go away, then it is time to fire that team and get a new team. Server upgrades won't always fix the lag, check the code. glances at the sov map and notices that pretty much every system worth taking has already been taken with attendant outpost and cynojammer in place with the relevant improvements all at max or nearly max level I would wager several hundred billions that the 'lag fix' is imminent. Maybe even the next patch. Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.

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