I was wondering if anyone knows wether mined ore (in lets say a hulk) will switch to your normal cargo hold if your ore hold is full, or when the ore hold is full(Which is rather small with a hulk) do you get the hold full message? thankyou

If there are new rigs for mining, will there be some significant retraining needed to use them? If so, should players be getting a neural remap or something to help those who happen to have all their stats in completely the wrong area? Having previously trained everything they thought they needed in the mining industry then remapped for other things...

more power grid will never be looked down upon.

the crystal volume isn't the issue; the awfully designed split between cargo and ore hold is. ~5.6k is as big as the ore bay needs to be. hence there's no reason for the hulk not to have a 2.4k cargo hold for crystals. ideally i'd like to see 5750 ore / 2250 cargo.
increasing the cargo bay to accommodate a GSC would reduce the ore bay to a size insufficient to hold a full cycle of ore.

Whatever Implementation of CCP on mining Barges/Exhumers, Poor miners just have to endure with them.

May I request CCP dev to mine in game as a "normal" character for at least one month - a few hours every day.
Perhaps then you will truly understand the needs of a miner in eve.

2) actually, it's not that we had bigger cargo holds, it was because we could choose how much cargo space we wanted to dedicate to crystals. now that choice has been made for us.

3) 2 cycles is more ore than a hulk can carry even with a 0m3 cargo bay, hence 1 cycle is sufficient and allows enough room for all the desired crystals at their current 50m3 size.

whether you move ore to a corp hangar in an industrial capital ship or to a jetcan is irrelevant. you're still moving ore; the location of the ore doesn't matter. unless you have 2 orcas in your mining fleet some where, some one's gonna be jetcanning ore unless ccp get around to fixing the corp hangars in the orca (my alt in the same corp can't see the hangars, for example. and you don't want to be dishing out roles to every one and their alts. it gets tedious if nothing else)

Just a quick look at a Hulk, and it seemed the structure was significantly reduced to about 2/3 of current.

Of course, with the hulk being a fleet ship, you could store the spare crystals in the support ship...

If the argument for not being able to carry a full set of crystals in the Hulk is that it is meant to be the fleet mining ship then why do the Mackinaw and Skiff also have a 350m3 cargo bay?

All of the mining ships should be able to carry a full set of crystals at a minimum. I do not mind having a tiny cargo bay but if that is the case further reduce the m3 of mining crystals appropriately.

I think the option to be able to carry a full set of crystals is valid. Do not sell short by asking for too little, no we don't need a full set of crystals, but if you wanted to lug around 2 full sets, why not? Some people only bother with 1-2 sets, some take out 3-5 sets, and some people take as much as possible without interfering with the amount room needed for mining cycles.

Everyone has a different mining style, why is your choice the one for everyone?

Also, think of the wonderful kill mails if a hulk gets ganked with a few hundred cyrstals sitting in it.

I don't think a crystal needs to be any bigger than 0.1m3 and they could reduce the cargo hold to 10m3 if they were readlly worried about hulks being used as haulers.

then you have mining crystals being an absurdly op way of compressing nocxium.

yes it does help, it gives you the 8k cargo space back in the hulk. it solves a problem by reverting it to the original state wherein the problem didn't exist.

you do not need a can to organise it at all. when you right click on the t2 strip miner it has an option to change the crystal to any other crystal and it even has options to load used crystals or unused crystals.

I suppose that creating a "crystals only" hold was too much of a challenge for CCP? That would fix the hauler cross over.

I tend to drag-and-drop crystals. I find it takes me too long to navigate the context menu, and it is error prone (click on wrong option).

Of course I also remove (at 39/40 damage) and later reprocess crystals before they pop, to recover all the Noxcium.

I sure would like to see crystal size reduced though, and I think it is more likely to happen than cargoholds being enlarged.

I haven't had time to check all the threads but I read that Mining barge skill requirements are reduced in developers blog. It says you need Astrogeology III and Mining Barge I. However it doesn't state that you need Industry V. So did they removed the Industry skill requirement from Mining Barges all together?