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MrCreep Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.08.02 13:14:00 - [1] Hello, i've recently started mining ice, and its a very long boring process, as we all know. But i thought it may be reasonable to bring out ice mining crystals? we have normal ore crystals already, and we have the "Ice Processing" skill already in place, all that would be required is to bring out a new ice miner that can fit the crystals and a T1 and T2 crystal for ice mining. The T1 reduceing cycle time by 5% the T2 for 10%, this may not seem like much, but when your spending hours mining ice, it makes a big difference. The second idea comes from a corp member, we both agree that PI takes too long to sort out, and you have to perform the same task over and over, for example, we both set all of our extractors to 5 hours, why cant there be a simple "set all" button? a simple button that you click to set all of your extractors to the same cycle time. Thanks for reading ^^ Fly safe EvE [url=http://profile.xfire.com/ilostmyname666][/url]
dishonesttruth	Posted - 2010.08.02 13:17:00 - [2] yep we've had the same issue with pi it takes too long to set up...having to route everything 1 by 1 it sucks
Soap Dropper	Posted - 2010.08.02 13:18:00 - [3] tl;dr
Pask Ainen	Posted - 2010.08.02 13:18:00 - [4] I don't know why there are no crystals for ice mining, maybe cause mining crystals increase yield, but ice mining crystals that would reduce ycle time sound like a good idea. Extractors should be able to group together, so you could set them all at once.
MrCreep Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.08.02 13:21:00 - [5] Edited by: MrCreep on 02/08/2010 13:26:09 Edited by: MrCreep on 02/08/2010 13:21:07 &threadIDThanks for replying guys ^^ just a little note, the guy from my corp made a post about POSs in the ideas thread. Check it out please :) http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1362627 [url=http://profile.xfire.com/ilostmyname666][/url]
Karath Race	Posted - 2010.08.02 13:22:00 - [6] The problem with the current extractor setup is that it makes 30 minute cycles just absurdly annoying to maintain. Also the fact that you have to go through such a repeatitive process with the extractors turns people off from further training in the career.
Pask Ainen	Posted - 2010.08.02 13:24:00 - [7] Originally by: MrCreep Edited by: MrCreep on 02/08/2010 13:21:07 &threadIDThanks for replying guys ^^ just a little note, the guy from my corp made a post about POSs in the ideas thread. Check it out please :) http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic=1362627 that gives 404
MrCreep Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.08.02 13:27:00 - [8] Originally by: Pask Ainen Originally by: MrCreep Edited by: MrCreep on 02/08/2010 13:21:07 &threadIDThanks for replying guys ^^ just a little note, the guy from my corp made a post about POSs in the ideas thread. Check it out please :) http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic=1362627 that gives 404 Thanks, ive sorted it out now ^^ [url=http://profile.xfire.com/ilostmyname666][/url]
MrCreep Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.08.02 15:27:00 - [9] Edited main post, check it out. ^^ And if you do read this topic, please reply ^^ thanks -------------
CommanderCK Caldari Resource Development Administration Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2010.08.02 18:32:00 - [10] Yeah, even with just 3 planets that all have Improved level Command Centers, it's extremely tedious to set EVERY SINGLE EXTRACTOR. Also, while I understand the inherent rarity that should come with T2 BPOs, I think that there should be some more. After all, by this time I'm sure quite a few have been blown up because someone thought they could loot it by blowing a player's ship up.
ugotpwnd	Posted - 2010.08.02 19:21:00 - [11] lol its tough but its worth it but id try getting corp with tech 2 mining lasers to help u cause mining with one person rly isnt gonna make u much money.
MrCreep Minmatar New Eden Mining and Industry	Posted - 2010.08.02 19:27:00 - [12] Originally by: ugotpwnd lol its tough but its worth it but id try getting corp with tech 2 mining lasers to help u cause mining with one person rly isnt gonna make u much money. You didnt realy read the topic fully did you? by the way, i personaly have a mack with ice mining fittings, and i find it moderately ok to mine ice, if not time consuming, and i dont do it for money, i personaly mine ice for POS fuel for my corp. -------------
TrowaBarton II	Posted - 2010.08.02 20:03:00 - [13] I believe more ice-mining skills and equipment would be nice especially for POS fuel purposes. Granted they dont come around that often, it would make things much easier mining ice.
Achilles Roscommon	Posted - 2010.08.02 21:34:00 - [14] This is a good idea
MrCreep Minmatar New Eden Mining and Industry	Posted - 2010.08.03 14:39:00 - [15] Bumpin' it up ^^ Comon please, theres hundreds of views on tthis post, if you view it, please please please LEAVE FEEDBACK! Thanks ^^ -------------
Quesa D00M. Excessum Messor	Posted - 2010.08.03 16:31:00 - [16] Originally by: Pask Ainen I don't know why there are no crystals for ice mining, maybe cause mining crystals increase yield, but ice mining crystals that would reduce ycle time sound like a good idea. Extractors should be able to group together, so you could set them all at once. Because there are specific modules and a ship that is designed for Ice mining? I had planned on using them to fix fleet lag but was talked out of it. -CCP Zulu
MrCreep Minmatar New Eden Mining and Industry	Posted - 2010.08.03 17:54:00 - [17] Originally by: Quesa Originally by: Pask Ainen I don't know why there are no crystals for ice mining, maybe cause mining crystals increase yield, but ice mining crystals that would reduce ycle time sound like a good idea. Extractors should be able to group together, so you could set them all at once. Because there are specific modules and a ship that is designed for Ice mining? Would you not agree that a Hulk is a ship designed for Ore mining? and it gets crystals to improve its yield, so why cant Ice mining ships have Ice Crystals? makes perfect sense to me tbh. -------------
MrCreep Minmatar New Eden Mining and Industry	Posted - 2010.08.03 21:00:00 - [18] This is how i belive the Ice mining crystals and miner should be set out: (below is based upon the strip miners and crystals already available) ------------- Ice Mining Crystal T1: Prerequisites: Primary Skills Required- Ice Processing Level III Refinery Efficiency Level V Refining Level V Industry Level I Secondary Skills Required- Hydromagnetic Physics Level IV Science Level V Engineering Level V Attributes: Decreases Ice mining cycle time 5% ------------- Ice Mining Crystal T2: Prerequisites: Primary Skills Required- Ice Processing Level V Refinery Efficiency Level V Refining Level V Industry Level I Secondary Skills Required- Hydromagnetic Physics Level V Science Level V Engineering Level V Attributes: Decreases Ice mining cycle time 10% ------------- Modulated Ice Harvester T2: Prerequisites: Primary Skills Required- Ice Harvesting Level V Mining Level IV Atributes: Volume 5.0 m3 Activation Cost 20 GJ Tech Level 2 Structure Hiitpoints 40 HP Can Be Fitted To Exhumer (not mining barge) Mining Ammount 1,0000 m3 Optimal Range 6.0 km Activation Time / Duration 500.00 s Meta Level 5 Used With (ChargeGroup) Ice Mining Crystal Specialty Crystal Activation Cycle Time / Duration 500.00 s -------------
Christophe Boisvert Gallente Merlin Reach	Posted - 2010.08.04 00:12:00 - [19] Oh yes, I'm on board with reducing the click fest of PI. Currently I have 65 extractors, and I run 5 hour cycles. At 4 clicks per extractor that over 260 mouse clicks (not counting the submit and the planet change clicks) This takes me about 13 minutes each time I reset my extractors. Wouldn't it be nice if you could click on the command center and say "reset all available extractors for a x hour cycle please." I still have four planets to visit, but it would be a great help! -- "Good ideas are not accepted automatically. They must be driven into practice with a courageous patience." -Adm Hymann G. Rickover
SyntaxPD	Posted - 2010.08.04 00:56:00 - [20] Edited by: SyntaxPD on 04/08/2010 01:03:44 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1360278&page=1 looks like we have to make up a "TODO" list for PI and then harass dev to implement theese things
MrCreep Minmatar New Eden Mining and Industry	Posted - 2010.08.05 02:01:00 - [21] Originally by: SyntaxPD Edited by: SyntaxPD on 04/08/2010 01:03:44 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1360278&page=1 looks like we have to make up a "TODO" list for PI and then harass dev to implement theese things Yeah ^^ -------------
Jade Blackclaw Gallente Lightspeed Enterprises	Posted - 2010.08.05 03:54:00 - [22] Originally by: MrCreep Edited by: MrCreep on 02/08/2010 15:39:34 [Edit] Another idea: CCP need to release More T2 BPOs. T2 BPOs will probably never be brought back into the game, besides the ones that exist already. CCP introduced invention to allow for a more interesting experience with mfg (I wish they had never seeded the skill books for it though, I miss making 500m+ off a site doing exploration). Everything else, I agree with though.
MrCreep Minmatar New Eden Mining and Industry	Posted - 2010.08.05 12:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Jade Blackclaw Originally by: MrCreep Edited by: MrCreep on 02/08/2010 15:39:34 [Edit] Another idea: CCP need to release More T2 BPOs. T2 BPOs will probably never be brought back into the game, besides the ones that exist already. CCP introduced invention to allow for a more interesting experience with mfg (I wish they had never seeded the skill books for it though, I miss making 500m+ off a site doing exploration). Everything else, I agree with though. Yeah, i thought that one would be the least likely of the ideas to be intorduced. thanks for agreeing with everything else though ^^ -------------
DueceNomad	Posted - 2010.08.06 13:06:00 - [24] I agree with this simple request,,,you've done all this and that for pve and pvp for weapons ships and implants but forgot about this aspect of minning
The NativeAvenger	Posted - 2010.08.06 20:51:00 - [25] those are good ideas :D
Akichi Caldari New Eden Mining and Industry	Posted - 2010.08.07 02:15:00 - [26] seems like CCP like to make us work. But i like your idea of T2 ice crystals, it just takes too long to mine for 40-55 units of ice >_< i haven't started playing with the PI system yet, but it seems like a lot of work and clicking is involved.
MrCreep Minmatar New Eden Mining and Industry	Posted - 2010.08.10 13:33:00 - [27] Originally by: Akichi i haven't started playing with the PI system yet, but it seems like a lot of work and clicking is involved. lol yeah its alot of clicking, worth it, but still alot of clicking -.- -------------
Kristaki	Posted - 2010.08.10 14:32:00 - [28] And it's double-clicking too... double click an extractor to start a survey, double click the survey to select the cycle. I have 5 toons with 5 planets each, some with as many as 17 extractors. I need a new mouse every 2 weeks I put a list of my PI thoughts here too. This is where my sig would go...
Alpha Avenger	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:31:00 - [29] I Like the idea, your edit for T2 BPO's CCP will never do as they did it at one point but the other ones sound good (Y)
Nuclearfusion42	Posted - 2010.08.14 19:34:00 - [30] Having just started PI I totally agree.

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