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Teschan
Total Mayhem. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:09:00 -
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Wtf? Allow me to flip this thread back to the FOTM whine,
Highsec ganking is pvp in the same way that rapȅ is sex, either way pvp areas are too laggy (hurrrrrrrrrrrrr) so I don't blame him for wanting a spot of action over in carebearland.
This thread is now about the lag.
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Sinister Mephisto
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:09:00 -
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I agree with OP, let's give pve players what they want and finally get that mission isk nerf that is so very needed. |

My Postman
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:10:00 -
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I feel a lot of hate in this thread,
Also inb4 captain stupid and his "it¦s surprise pvp".
Further i sense at least one foult of yours. Saying you don¦t want to know anything about pvp will make you die a lot of times. You don¦t want to pvp? Ok, fine.
But not KNOWING about game mechanics is exactly what happend to you. You should¦nt open fire if you are not sure about it. There are a lot of a**hats out there (more than in other mmo¦s imo), waiting for easy prey. Don¦t be easy prey! There are ways to make ninjas yelling in local you know?
Get a cloaked alt in your pocket, in a pvp fitted high alpha BC (dont forget he has to be same corp). When ninja gets blinky to you pop him. Get epic whining in local. If you feel for it, and you are willing to take the sec hit, pod him and make him lose his +4 implants and get an epic hate mail.
TL;DR There is always something you can do about, if you want to. Of course you have to know what to do, not to stick your head in the "sandbox".
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:14:00 -
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Well......bye. |

OT Smithers
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Teschan
Highsec ganking is pvp in the same way that rapȅ is sex
I prefer calling it "surprise sex"
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nu artiste
Gallente Metalworks Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:25:00 -
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I quitted EvE for about a year, when I realized that eve catered to Half-ass Myrmidon pirates. They were faster than a frigate, deadlier than a battleship, could instantly recharge the shields of the drones, carried 5 Large drones, used NOSF to their cap advantage (it drained the victims cap fully) and were sensor boosted like mad.
Eve was very unfair to me, because I started trying to fight this kind of pirates. And there was nothing to deal with them, they could disengage at anytime in combat.
Now this is not possible, it has been rebalanced to more specific role of a battlecruiser - be a cheaper than BS platform. Speed, Cap warfare, DPS and fast locking on one ship is fairly stupid.
Everything will find equilibrium over time, nothing can stay unfavorably unbalanced for an uncertain amount of time.
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rootimus maximus
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Baeran Draconis Dang, it's been really slack lately. Either the carebears are hardening up, or I'm just getting a bad run of them. Either way, when I fool them into shooting me while they're running missions, they're just not posting tears on the forum (or even in local).
To remedy this, here's some fictional tears.
Fixed the OP.
+1 For grammar, spelling and general ease of reading. +1 For not being another post about CCP not giving a damn.
Final score: 2/10
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:38:00 -
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So...YOU attacked him and now you are whining about pvp?  Stop whining. |

Khavi Kitamatsu
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:39:00 -
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Edited by: Khavi Kitamatsu on 05/08/2010 13:39:28 Sad that the EVE community is actually shooting themselves in the foot with the attitudes toward new players. For every player that gives EVE a go and is pushed away from the game is another $14.99 taken from development of this game.
Whether you agree with the OP or not some players are not here for PvP and would rather just play PvE. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is their play style...many players do not care for PvP.
CCP claims that EVE is a new player friendly, yet with a community like this and attitudes like this...is it any wonder why EVE has one of the highest turn-over rates for new players.
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happyshopper111
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:40:00 -
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Great that you choose not too understand any game mechanics at all in your thread. Prehaps eve is a little too sophisticated for you. Ever tried noughts and crosses? 
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 05/08/2010 14:00:24
Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu Sad that the EVE community is actually shooting themselves in the foot with the attitudes toward new players.
This has nothing to do with new players. This is about players who choose not to learn what the game is and then complain about how it does not live up to their expectations. The OP's complain makes about as much sense as someone whining that he can't do Farmville in CS, in spite of the fact that there are/were both groceries and chickens in CS Italy.
Quote: Whether you agree with the OP or not some players are not here for PvP and would rather just play PvE. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is their play style...many players do not care for PvP.
àand there's plenty of room for those. They just have to understand that, whether they like it or not, this game is a sandbox, and as a result, anything and everything they do can be stomped all over by other players. They also need to realise that the are already PvPing. Every time they use the market; every time they mine; every time they build something; every time they do anything other than clicking on the "request mission" and "complete mission" buttons, they are engaging in PvP. This game is suffused to the core with player-vs-player competition and wouldn't function for a second without it.
If they don't want to engage in this kind of PvP, it is impossible for them to play this game, and the game cannot cater to their wishes. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |

Mr SmartGuy
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Baeran Draconis Ok, I've had it with this game! I don't know anything about PVP because I don't WANT to know anything about it.
If you don't like PvP, why did you subscribe to a PvP game in the first place?
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu Edited by: Khavi Kitamatsu on 05/08/2010 13:39:28 Sad that the EVE community is actually shooting themselves in the foot with the attitudes toward new players. For every player that gives EVE a go and is pushed away from the game is another $14.99 taken from development of this game.
Whether you agree with the OP or not some players are not here for PvP and would rather just play PvE. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is their play style...many players do not care for PvP.
CCP claims that EVE is a new player friendly, yet with a community like this and attitudes like this...is it any wonder why EVE has one of the highest turn-over rates for new players.
The OP isn't a new player. He's just a permanent noob.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |

Aristeia Cersei
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:42:00 -
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I smell troll.. there are no loss mails's anywhere with the name Baeran Draconis.
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Gashblight
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:46:00 -
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Quote: ...I suddenly noticed a red flashing ship and reflexivly lock target and attack.
You initiated pvp and lost then decided in burning a burning rage to come cry about it on the forums. I haven't read through the post but how's that working out for you?
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:50:00 -
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Undocking is consent to PvP...sorry your butthurt, but welcome to eVe. 
btw...can I haz yer stuffz?
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion King
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Shaalira D'arc
Gallente Sephray Industries Serenitas Solutus
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Aristeia Cersei I smell troll...
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Krecian
Gallente Essence of Decay Black Cartel.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:00:00 -
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By admitting you wanted to know nothing about PvP, you have admitted to being willfully ignorant of how the game works. Your ship's loss is YOUR fault, nobody elses.
Yes, you canceled. Way I see it, that's one less person who would potentially try and get the soul stripped from this game. Good luck with your endeavors. --------- "The first rock thrown again, welcome to hell little saint. Mother Gia in slaughter, welcome to paradise soldier." -Nightwish, Planet Hell |

Sourpsalm
Gallente Pubs 'n Clubs
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: OT Smithers
Originally by: Teschan
Highsec ganking is pvp in the same way that rapȅ is sex
I prefer calling it "surprise sex"
Well, it shouldn't be a surprise when you show up dressed like a who... erm, shoot a can flipper and flag yourself.
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Urgg Boolean
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:21:00 -
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To the OP: may I suggest joining EvE University (a training corp) before you quit?
The thing that really disappoints me about this thread is that so many players want to kick the OP when he is down. So the guy got baited and acted like a stupid noob and is showing the frustration. That does not make him inferior, it means he lacks experience and/or game knowledge.
With the right kind of encouragement, players like the OP could become contributors to this game. Instead, many of our player base posting here choose to make sure he experiences maximum frustration thus potentiating his departure.
EvE is brutal. Learn to survive or die. Show no mercy!!! Cool. But do we have rub salt into their wounds when they feel like they want to quit? One less sub = that much less money to keep the game going.
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Eelis Kiy
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:26:00 -
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You could try the PVE server instead? -----------------------------
>>where the frack is my ship?<< |

Muddy Miner
Gallente Tiny Fleet
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Baeran Draconis Ok, I've had it with this game! I don't know anything about PVP because I don't WANT to know anything about it.
A short time ago I was running a mission in a high security area, minding my own business and salvaging my wrecks when I suddenly noticed a red flashing ship and reflexivly lock target and attack, only to realize its another player who it turned out had purposely scanned me down to my mission area and looted one of my wrecks which turned them "red" to me, which I knew nothing about before as, mentioned already, I know nothing about PVP (or its tactics) and don't want to know.
I fully support other people's choice to enjoy PVP (with others who want the same) but I also expect the same support for my own choice not to engage in it. I had thought that down the road I may get into it , but just not yet. And if any missions took me into LoSec space, I'd be willing but would actually equip my ship to take into account possible gankers where I might at least be able to warp out if needed.
But in a High Security mission area, I had no such equipped ship nor was anything dealing with PVP even on my mind when this coward that is too afraid to go to LoSec space to PVP but instead hunts in HiSec mission areas for unprepared and unsuspecting players who don't understand what the hells going on till its too late and their millions of isk worth of tech II gear and battle cruiser have been trapped and vaporized and looted.
I realize this game is geared towards PVP but people like that punk shouldn't be able to access others mission areas to bring their PVP attempts against others who want nothing to do with it. The very way they went about it shows they were knew the players in the areas they were hunting would not be equipped nor prepared nor willing to PVP with them knowingly.
Instead, they were too chicken-crap to go to areas others would take them on willingly or to places that at least people who entered them were aware of the chance for PVP
In any case, I've got a load of frigates, cruisers and a strip miner plus millions of isk and other tech II gear thats just going to rot because quite frankly I've had enogh with the way some of the players in this game act and the way the devs leave the game designed so they can get away with it.
I know the lack of my monthly payments won't matter to CCP but I can only assume there have been, and will continue to be, others who feel the same as I do and maybe one day enough will say the hell with it to actually make CCP take notice and actually get some changes made but, until then, in the immortal words of Eric Cartman...."Screw You Guys, I'm Going Home!"
Contract all your stuff to Muddy Miner please, and thank you. EMO Rage Quitting EvE? The R.S.O. is here for you! |

Nemeron
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:32:00 -
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LOL hes not leaveing the game. if he was he wouldnt have spent so long posting his pathetic rant....
Look up his char ingame and i bet you he's still there flying his whatever in high sec! and if he is go and loot his wrecks cos he's an easy kill by the sounds of it and you will prolly get great emo rage in private chat  
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Muddy Miner Contract all your stuff to Muddy Miner please, and thank you.
Wow... How original...
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Rowbin Hod
Cloak and Daggers Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu Edited by: Khavi Kitamatsu on 05/08/2010 13:39:28 Sad that the EVE community is actually shooting themselves in the foot with the attitudes toward new players. For every player that gives EVE a go and is pushed away from the game is another $14.99 taken from development of this game.
Whether you agree with the OP or not some players are not here for PvP and would rather just play PvE. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is their play style...many players do not care for PvP.
CCP claims that EVE is a new player friendly, yet with a community like this and attitudes like this...is it any wonder why EVE has one of the highest turn-over rates for new players.
It's unfortunate that attictudes like this get lost in deluge of tripe posted by the tards in here who believe in death to all carebears and would like their new apoc to just emerge from nowhere... magically.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:41:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Callibri on 05/08/2010 16:42:25
Originally by: Rowbin Hod
Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu Edited by: Khavi Kitamatsu on 05/08/2010 13:39:28 Sad that the EVE community is actually shooting themselves in the foot with the attitudes toward new players. For every player that gives EVE a go and is pushed away from the game is another $14.99 taken from development of this game.
Whether you agree with the OP or not some players are not here for PvP and would rather just play PvE. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is their play style...many players do not care for PvP.
CCP claims that EVE is a new player friendly, yet with a community like this and attitudes like this...is it any wonder why EVE has one of the highest turn-over rates for new players.
It's unfortunate that attictudes like this get lost in deluge of tripe posted by the tards in here who believe in death to all carebears and would like their new apoc to just emerge from nowhere... magically.
I think your perceptions are somewhat skewed...My point is that, its nothing that the rest of us didn't have to go through. It happened to me when I first started out...no rage-quit thread, just asked the vets what hasppened. Lots-o-trolls yes, but good advice too.
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion King
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Rowbin Hod It's unfortunate that attictudes like this get lost in deluge of tripe posted by the tards in here who believe in death to all carebears and would like their new apoc to just emerge from nowhere... magically.
The problem is that the attitude in question is misinformed.
Again, the OP is not a newbie ù he' a n00b. A loss of the former might be a problem; a loss of the latter is not. Wilful ignorance is not an excuse and it's not a problem the game can (or should) solve.
As for carebears, the game would carry on just fine without them. They provide nothing useful that isn't covered by the industrialists. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |

Urgg Boolean
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia <snip>As for carebears, the game would carry on just fine without them. They provide nothing useful that isn't covered by the industrialists.
I respectfully disagree. Think in terms of all the lost subs : carebears provide subs, which is, in fact, very useful. Gameplay may be improved or unaltered by the loss of all carebears, as an arguable matter, but the game will not be helped by loss of so many subs.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu Edited by: Khavi Kitamatsu on 05/08/2010 13:39:28 Sad that the EVE community is actually shooting themselves in the foot with the attitudes toward new players. For every player that gives EVE a go and is pushed away from the game is another $14.99 taken from development of this game.
Whether you agree with the OP or not some players are not here for PvP and would rather just play PvE. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is their play style...many players do not care for PvP.
CCP claims that EVE is a new player friendly, yet with a community like this and attitudes like this...is it any wonder why EVE has one of the highest turn-over rates for new players.
Actually, I agree with you. CCP would have better customer retention rates if they would actually bother to make a tutorial explaining game mechanics to nubs.
Of course, CCP is more interested in listing to themselves talking to a mirror, and have come to the conclusion that shiney is more exiting than hard work.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Urgg Boolean I respectfully disagree. Think in terms of all the lost subs : carebears provide subs, which is, in fact, very useful. Gameplay may be improved or unaltered by the loss of all carebears, as an arguable matter, but the game will not be helped by loss of so many subs.
Fair enough, as far as it goes, but the argument I responded was that without carebears, there would be no shiny new Apocs, which is just plain old wrong. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
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