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JitaPriceChecker2	Posted - 2010.08.06 20:23:00 - [1] Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 06/08/2010 20:25:00 Really you should just scrap dust which will propably fail. Pro tip : Huge market competition. Move DEVS from dust to the incarna project that will make it happen faster so also you can faster start FIXING EVE .
Blnukem 192 Amarr Malevolent Industries	Posted - 2010.08.06 20:24:00 - [2] Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
Snowmann	Posted - 2010.08.06 21:43:00 - [3] Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 Pro tip : .... Ok, that part made me laugh.
Gnukk	Posted - 2010.08.07 01:28:00 - [4] Scrap them both and FIX the game that exists.
Running missions	Posted - 2010.08.07 02:54:00 - [5] QQ i want dust on pc because it takes no skill to shoot in pc games IB4L i hope
cheet sheet	Posted - 2010.08.07 04:25:00 - [6] Do as i say im right your wrong the fact that you have run this game for 6 years does not mean anything to me i want i want mom where is my food cry cry. pro tip dont like it just leave
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.08.07 04:29:00 - [7] Originally by: Running missions QQ i want dust on pc because it takes no skill to shoot in pc games Just like driving racecars by using a steering wheel requires no skill, and every car should have a keyboard and mouse instead ? _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
sue denim	Posted - 2010.08.07 05:09:00 - [8] Edited by: sue denim on 07/08/2010 05:08:52 Originally by: Running missions QQ i want dust on pc because it takes no skill to shoot in pc games IB4L i hope it takes no skill to shoot on console either, now being good and kicking ass takes skill :P you just know that on console, even if you're good you really suck. but I doubt he's crying cause of that, it'd still suck on pc.
Running missions	Posted - 2010.08.07 05:29:00 - [9] Originally by: sue denim Edited by: sue denim on 07/08/2010 05:08:52 Originally by: Running missions QQ i want dust on pc because it takes no skill to shoot in pc games IB4L i hope it takes no skill to shoot on console either, now being good and kicking ass takes skill :P you just know that on console, even if you're good you really suck. but I doubt he's crying cause of that, it'd still suck on pc. console = aim and fire PC = point and click on targets head, not exactly skill unless your talking about camp of duty, which takes no skill at all on either system
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.08.07 05:33:00 - [10] Originally by: Running missions console = aim and fire PC = point and click on targets head, not exactly skill Oh, riiiight... so using a cumbersome and imprecise control method = skill, but using a more appropriate control method = no skill... while actual talent at playing the game itself has no bearing on skill whatsoever ? It's like arguing playing chess doesn't take any skill whatsoever, but playing chess with chopsticks on remote-controlled robot arms does take a lot of skill. I think you have a very weird definition of what exactly constitutes "skill". _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _

Compliator Eufinia	Posted - 2010.08.07 05:37:00 - [11] Originally by: Running missions PC = point and click Are you playing Monkey Island?
Aion Amarra Minmatar Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.07 06:21:00 - [12] Edited by: Aion Amarra on 07/08/2010 06:20:47 Originally by: Running missions console = aim and fire PC = point and click on targets head, not exactly skill unless your talking about camp of duty, which takes no skill at all on either system If no skill is involved in Keyboard + Mouse gaming, explain to me why there's such a huge difference in ability between good and bad PC players as well. You're basically saying that anyone buying a joystick for flightsims, or a steering wheel for racing games, or a TrackIR as supplement for pretty much anything that supports it is an idiot because they pick the better tool for the job. I'm sure you fit your real car with those crummy analog sticks you get on gamepads too, because driving with a wheel takes no skill, right? I'm always amused by console gamers arguing that using any other device than a gamepad to do things totally takes the skill out of it.
Ryhss Caldari Ominous Corp Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.08.07 07:01:00 - [13] Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 06/08/2010 20:25:00 Really you should just scrap dust which will probably fail. . Scrap Incarna too! Originally by: aratillion LEGEN.... Wait for it DARY!
seany1212 Stylo Corporation	Posted - 2010.08.07 07:02:00 - [14] Originally by: Gnukk Scrap them both and FIX the game that exists. **** them both and do this You guys make squeeky noises when you pop, and that's enough motivation as far as I'm concerned.
JitaPriceChecker2	Posted - 2010.08.07 11:29:00 - [15] Originally by: cheet sheet pro tip dont like it just leave I wait for my subscription to runs out , until then i can at least post in the forums.
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Damu'Khonde	Posted - 2010.08.07 11:31:00 - [16] Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 Originally by: cheet sheet pro tip dont like it just leave I wait for my subscription to runs out , until then i can at least post in the forums. Just so long as your not so delusional you think people will listen to you.. Dust514 \| Podlogs
putopugno Gallente Unit-9	Posted - 2010.08.07 11:35:00 - [17] What yet another pointless thread by people with high self importance? never!
Ressiv Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association	Posted - 2010.08.07 11:45:00 - [18] Originally by: Running missions PC = point and click on targets head, not exactly skill Please explain how you dont need skill to keep your ass from being pointed and clicked on, while trying to point and click the other guy ? Also, how does it differ from real life, last time I did a shooting range, it was kinda point & click too .. tho click was replaced with BANG. The arguement that being able to pull it off on a console = skill is partially right tho. It takes some serious skilling to be able to point and click with a controller that was not ment for that kinda thing. So yeah, kudos to you for being able to play FPS on a console, now please, go argue that typing can be improved upon by giving you a OSK and using your controller to select letters. You basically argued that in console gaming, skill revolves around being able to compensate for your controllers inadeqacy at the task at hand. ========================== Nothing is true, everything is permitted. ==========================
Nahir	Posted - 2010.08.07 11:47:00 - [19] Edited by: Nahir on 07/08/2010 11:47:44 Originally by: Running missions QQ i want dust on pc because it takes no skill to shoot in pc games IB4L i hope Id love to see you play a FPS game on pc man, you must be one of the best players in Counterstrice, call of duty and the works! I used to be a true Highskill CSS player, but now i think i need to just lay down my keyboard+mouse for a while and just L2P from you, the console god!
Eternum Praetorian True Creation	Posted - 2010.08.07 12:04:00 - [20] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 07/08/2010 12:04:16 Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 Pro tip : Drools profusely in public. My self-important son, I disappoint.

Zerrov	Posted - 2010.08.07 13:22:00 - [21] Originally by: Running missions QQ i want dust on pc because it takes no skill to shoot in pc games IB4L i hope lololololol I guess battling poor controls are up there with nunchucks skills.
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2010.08.07 13:24:00 - [22] Originally by: putopugno people with high self importance? In psychiatric technical terms that would be called an exaggerated sense of entitlement (see:Narcisstic Personality Disorder.)
Stitcher Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.08.07 14:39:00 - [23] Edited by: Stitcher on 07/08/2010 14:39:46 It really is debatable that there's much of a difference between a PC mouse and keyboard control system and a decent console controller for the average player. As far as I've ever been able to tell, the only people who really benefit from the extra speed and precision of a mouse are the really bat-frak crazy pro gamers who've spent hours and hours practicing and are usually focused on just one or two games, or even just one or two maps in a given game. There's a demoman player on my favourite TF2 server, for instance, who spends upwards of eight hours a day on there just playing that map, that class, again and again and again to the point where he's the most annoying person on the server because nobody else can really challenge him without specifically setting out to hunt him down. For more sane people, however... I don't think there's a noticeable difference between mouse/keyboard and gamepad once you've acclimatized. I've certainly never noticed one - I play games all the time and I'd say I'm about equally good on console and on PC. My tactics may change slightly to accommodate the slower turning speed on console, but that's just a case of me hardening the F up and adapting, like any real EVE Online player. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Ressiv Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association	Posted - 2010.08.07 15:02:00 - [24] Originally by: Stitcher For more sane people, however... I don't think there's a noticeable difference between mouse/keyboard and gamepad once you've acclimatized. I've certainly never noticed one - I play games all the time and I'd say I'm about equally good on console and on PC. My tactics may change slightly to accommodate the slower turning speed on console, but that's just a case of me hardening the F up and adapting, like any real EVE Online player. Like you mention in this quoted part yourself: that's all fine, untill you have to beat a PC playing guy on your console. In those cases, pro console players would get whacked by mediocre PC players. You can NEVER hope to achieve the same speed and accuracy with a controller VS keyboard mouse, unless you have a point and click controller. ========================== Nothing is true, everything is permitted. ==========================
Solar Blade	Posted - 2010.08.07 15:54:00 - [25] Edited by: Solar Blade on 07/08/2010 15:54:27 Originally by: sue denim Edited by: sue denim on 07/08/2010 05:08:52 console = aim and fire PC = point and click on targets head, not exactly skill unless your talking about camp of duty, which takes no skill at all on either system Just because mouse and keyboard causes for more accurate and faster gameplay doesn't mean its easier. Back in the day i've played UT2004 on a highly competative level and I can tell you that it requires skill and training. When I play(ed) halo on the console it was much more cluncky and autoaim did most of the work for me.
Dalmont Delantee Gallente Fidelis Discordia	Posted - 2010.08.07 16:37:00 - [26] Incarna needs something to do....no point adding incarna without it being some worth and the years people have moaned for 'walking in stations' and CCP have given you something to do and also improve the playerbase as well (yes DUST will improve the player base as there will be more stories from that section etc) And again, what do you mean by fail? Sell millions of units = win? Sell hunddreds of thousands = fail? Cover costs = win and gain more eve players = win Learn to use the graphics system for World of darkness MMO = win I believe Dust will fullfil both (though Incarna is the 2nd bit really) Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons
JitaPriceChecker2	Posted - 2010.08.07 19:52:00 - [27] Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 07/08/2010 19:52:35 Originally by: Dalmont Delantee Incarna needs something to do....no point adding incarna without it being some worth and the years people have moaned for 'walking in stations' and CCP have given you something to do and also improve the playerbase as well (yes DUST will improve the player base as there will be more stories from that section etc) And again, what do you mean by fail? Sell millions of units = win? Sell hunddreds of thousands = fail? Cover costs = win and gain more eve players = win Learn to use the graphics system for World of darkness MMO = win I believe Dust will fullfil both (though Incarna is the 2nd bit really) What i mean Incarna : Huge increase in customers that are drown to the complicated EVE universe. You can move from station to the ship when you feel like it. Some of the EVE currents user and new people are interested into long term playing. After a while investemnt pay of it self and generate steady cashflow just like EVE . ALL very good and posivitve results ( expect CCP really need to improve their coding performence other wise extra incarna accounts will just crash EVE ) Like if EVE wasnt crashing allready ? Dust : A lot of customers at first but you cant move from ship to the planet and you need console so steady EVE customers dont care. Then its being overrunned by 14 years old console kiddies with span of ineterest 2 months. After two months they move to the diffrent game due to huge competition on the market. At best: CCP gain capital gain which is Payoff from buying a game > investment + upkeep . After than if CCP want to earn more money they need to create next project ... like pulling resources from EVE again. What i predict : CCP goes on negative on that = investment costs + upkeep costs + opportunity costs < income . ( opportunity costs are importent here actually ) Console kiddies are not a people you want to make a steady cashflow from. But dont mind my word i am just a harmless troll with huge self importence here as some people say.
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.08.07 19:56:00 - [28] Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 Originally by: cheet sheet pro tip dont like it just leave I wait for my subscription to runs out , until then i can at least post in the forums. Havent you allready been leaving a few times over the last year? Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
Dalmont Delantee Gallente Fidelis Discordia	Posted - 2010.08.07 19:59:00 - [29] Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 07/08/2010 19:52:35 Originally by: Dalmont Delantee Incarna needs something to do....no point adding incarna without it being some worth and the years people have moaned for 'walking in stations' and CCP have given you something to do and also improve the playerbase as well (yes DUST will improve the player base as there will be more stories from that section etc) And again, what do you mean by fail? Sell millions of units = win? Sell hunddreds of thousands = fail? Cover costs = win and gain more eve players = win Learn to use the graphics system for World of darkness MMO = win I believe Dust will fullfil both (though Incarna is the 2nd bit really) What i mean Incarna : Huge increase in customers that are drown to the complicated EVE universe. You can move from station to the ship when you feel like it. Some of the EVE currents user and new people are interested into long term playing. After a while investemnt pay of it self and generate steady cashflow just like EVE . ALL very good and posivitve results ( expect CCP really need to improve their coding performence other wise extra incarna accounts will just crash EVE ) Like if EVE wasnt crashing allready ? Dust : A lot of customers at first but you cant move from ship to the planet and you need console so steady EVE customers dont care. Then its being overrunned by 14 years old console kiddies with span of ineterest 2 months. After two months they move to the diffrent game due to huge competition on the market. At best: CCP gain capital gain which is Payoff from buying a game > investment + upkeep . After than if CCP want to earn more money they need to create next project ... like pulling resources from EVE again. What i predict : CCP goes on negative on that = investment costs + upkeep costs + opportunity costs < income . ( opportunity costs are importent here actually ) Console kiddies are not a people you want to make a steady cashflow from. But dont mind my word i am just a harmless troll with huge self importence here as some people say. Wrong wrong wrong. Incarna comes out...nothing to do in incarna then make pretty faces at each other = waste of development time Incarna + Dust = worthwhile. What will incarna bring without dust, if you can answer that with something worthwhile then maybe I'll believe you.. In fact, myself and others I know are actually going to buy the console it comes out on and the game to play Dust..I am not a console player or even like FPS's (except Battlefield 2142) so they will get double bubble from me here :P Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons
Simply Human	Posted - 2010.08.07 20:08:00 - [30] Edited by: Simply Human on 07/08/2010 20:08:02 Originally by: Dalmont Delantee What will incarna bring without dust, if you can answer that with something worthwhile then maybe I'll believe you.. Incarna brings full body avatars for people that like that. Has no relationship at all with dust other than being part of EVE which dust is going to be connected to. Anyone who plays dust and not eve online will have no difference in gameplay than they would with the current avatars. We'd still be faceless names that tell them what to do.



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