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Barrak
Caldari
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.08.06 23:00:00 -
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Good evening all,
I am just finishing off some ewar skills and I will be switching over to Gal frigate training in order to get into a Taranis which will complement my Inty 5 skill.
I have just started using ECM drones in defence on my Sniping Caracal and am quite enjoying them and was thinking that they may prove very usefull in a ship that already has good firepower.....ie the Taranis.
I know one of the things that makes a Taranis lethal is it's drones, but with the fire power that it has, surely there is something to be said for loading up ECM drones rather than the usual Hob/Wars.
I play to solo with this Taranis, if that has an impact on what you recomend.
Can I please, politely, ask for explanations for your answers and if possible, your experiences/examples would be perfect!
Regards
Barrak
In this life (Eve) dying is easy, its living thats hard.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Amicus Morte
Shock an Awe
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Posted - 2010.08.06 23:16:00 -
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No, because it's just 2 drones.
Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenĘt built for this!
Clear Skies - The Movie
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Jahred Shaw
Muppet Ninja's
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Posted - 2010.08.07 00:27:00 -
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If they miss their first cycle you're dead.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.08.07 00:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Jahred Shaw
If they miss their first cycle you're dead.
Technically true, but then if in a fight that is decided by a jam going off or not .. 
@OP: Don't use EC-XXX drones. They are the gayest, lamest, and most broken drone around. Do without and be ahead of the curve when the inevitable nerf hits their sorry asses.
ECM drones are the crutches used by the feeble of mind and body.
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Zach Donnell
Ghost-Busters
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Posted - 2010.08.07 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Originally by: Jahred Shaw
If they miss their first cycle you're dead.
Technically true, but then if in a fight that is decided by a jam going off or not ..
@OP: Don't use EC-XXX drones. They are the gayest, lamest, and most broken drone around. Do without and be ahead of the curve when the inevitable nerf hits their sorry asses.
ECM drones are the crutches used by the feeble of mind and body.
Don't listen to Hirana, he / she / it is just bitter. They allow some interesting possibilities for ship fits, but usually it is in select situations. I would go about the problem by asking yourself this: (and this goes for any ship fit question) By using ecm drones instead, (assuming they work) what engagements am I now making possible that were not possible with damage drones.
And quite honestly, to this I would answer: Pretty much none. ECM Drones will not allow you really any more potential engagements than damage drones would in a taranis. Thus I would stay away from them, particularly because the jam chance is so low with only 2 lights. Mathematically speaking your best chance would be on something like a rifter, and even then its only 2/8 or 25% chance.
Hope this helps answer your question, and potentially future questions as well.
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.07 08:14:00 -
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Funny how people always say that if the ECM misses the first cycle you are dead. Well when it misses the first cycle you are just a fast, heavy dps inty. Oh yeah, that ECM makes all the difference....
It's like saying a Taranis with attack drones are fails. They are not. I would go for ECM just because WHEN they do work...they annoy the behjeesus out of people.
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Admiral Hawke
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Posted - 2010.08.07 13:29:00 -
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People will whine if you ecm them and win, or gloat if you die with them out. Though, if you're trying to pursue bigger gangs, to pull off their tacklers, you can use them to balance a fight(assuming you get some jams in). And use them in a hairy situation, if you're pointed up and dps is coming in to kill you. Still it's only 2 drones, and if you can't afford to lose a ranis, you shouldn't be in one.
Of course, if you're roaming deep in to hostile space, with no repairer on your ship, they can also keep you from having to find a station to repair at etc etc. Also, theory crafting that they work to begin with.
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Taudia
Gallente
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.08.07 13:45:00 -
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Only if you have very poor drone skills. Often you will need to kill your opponent quickly before backup arrives, so the extra damage from the drones is essential. Even if you jam the ceptor you are fighting, you will be forced to disengage once the sabre lands, whereas the damage drones might allow you to kill the ceptor and warp before the sabre lands.
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Sanguine Belroth
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Posted - 2010.08.09 07:28:00 -
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Edited by: Sanguine Belroth on 09/08/2010 07:28:15
I've used them on occasion. And they can really make a difference. The Taranis does so much DPS, even without the drones. I typically fit 2x mag stabs, and hull tank it.
I killed an Autocannon thrasher once, and barely got scratched thanks to ECM.
And it makes ganking rifters alot easier also.
It could be a "get out dodge" card if you need it. Although Taranis's don't usually last that long, its kill or be killed.
That being said, I tried a medium shield extender fit once.
Killed rifter, tristan, and almost another rifter before succumbing to a frig gang.
Medium Shield Taranis
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45 Longslide
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Posted - 2010.08.13 13:56:00 -
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Imo ranis vs riffter/tristan/punisher is not a particularly good yard stick to measure against. T2 resists and bonus's should let you own the majority of these fights, but don't get overconfident. Gimpy blaster optimal and hull tanking are not a win button combo.
Your choice of drones is going to make a difference most in the high risk/bad odd's fights that you might involuntarily find yourself in.
Ranis vs Dram = your 2 vs his 3 has you disadvantaged to start. questionable whether ec-3's can catch him if he gets to orbit range. Nail him at 20k on the inbound and get the jam and you've got a fighting chance.
Ranis vs Daredevil = this is where 2 ecm drones can really help. you don't have to worry about a drone on drone fight just a slug fest. One or 2 good jam's might be all you need to pull this fight off.
Don't plan for the easy fight you'll win anyway. plan for the tough one you might not.
Have fun and remember. 1 v 1 is sacred and not to be violated. 3 ways are by invitation only.
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Ghaylenty
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Posted - 2010.08.15 07:25:00 -
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ranis vs dram is suicide. the only way you'll win is if you're fitted with a web/scram and he's not, and you have to get the jump on it and WTZ first.
ranis vs daredevil is also just a bad idea. daredevil will web you to nothing, then you are dead.
do not take ecm drones on a taranis.. they do not help.
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