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Posted - 2010.08.08 11:12:00 -
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 Originally by: SFX Bladerunner
DISCLAIMER: I am not trying to say CCP is innocent nor am I trying to say CCP is guilty.
All I am trying to say is this is a complicated matter and should not be concidered as lightly as you do, if at all.
It's not that complicated. The dumbass in the kestrel needs to biomass his toon and GB2W. Other then that it's NO different then getting a BPO run ganked. You should look at ISK value, not at what the item can be used for.
If we ARE going to look what an item can be used for, and add that to it's value, then a Hulk is worth much more then a PLEX. Loosing a Hulk is loosing many times that amount of ISK, in the long run. Same applies to a POS, etc.
First rule applies: Don't undock what you can't afford to lose.
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Posted - 2010.08.08 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Cromo Effect
No you are wrong completely. He was warping to the station at zero to dock and it dropped him 40km off it. Something tells me that the 0rphanage is using the same program as The Monkeysphere was using to mess with war targets to get easy kills. Besides the incident is under investigation as we speak so we will see who the dummy is.
Exploit being used or not, flying 74 PLEX' in a frig, during war, is beyond moron.
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Posted - 2010.08.08 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Cromo Effect
I am not in Space Monkeys you troll!
 So let me get this ... you know from a very reliable source that it went down like you said ... 
If it wasnt you in that Kestrel, you have no way of knowing what did or did not happen.
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Posted - 2010.08.08 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Telsiah
This kill has exposured the many deep fissures that exist within Space Monkeys Alliance, The lack of foresight and a substandard and intellectually limited leadership that afflicts Space Monkeys Alliance.
Space Monkeys are the laughing stock of eve and rightfully so. Instead of condemning this pilot for such a devastating loss the Space monkey alliance has sought whitewash his this whole episode and come up with scapegoats and conspiracy theories.
The space monkeys should do what is needed and disband thier alliance to save face and prevent further embarrassment upon its members.
Nothing surprising there, them being monkeys.
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Posted - 2010.08.08 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Hiroshima Jita
CCP probably ecstatic that people can pay them 1K$ and then blow it all up. CCP doesn't have to provide service or anything in that exchange.
This is what bugs me about you people ... let me explain:
John Doe buys 74 PLEX' off the market. 74 people just got the service they wanted for that PLEX. They got the ISK they choose to convert the PLEX to.
John Doe is either going to sell them elsewhere for a markup, or using them for his own gametime. If he is going to use it for gametime, he can apply them whenever he wants, from wherever he is, as long as he keeps them in the first layer of his hangar. (not in a container or something, tho this is speculation on my part) He also got his 'service'.
If John Doe decides (look up the meaning of that word if you are confused about this issue) to try and make more ISK of them then he paid for them. John Doe just decided to use those PLEX' as trade commodity.
Now please give me ONE good reason, why this trade commodity should have a special status, while the service the original 'creator' of the PLEX is provided.
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And the monkey example is wrong. Let me have a go. Mr. Evil goes to a public place with lots of people. He leaves a gun there. Someone picks the gun up and procedes to shoot someone else. Legally Mr. Evil can't be charged with homicide. Negligence yes, depending on local law. Maybe a prosecutor might try for manslaughter although thats probably going to fall through.
In the end is Mr. Evil an *******? Yes.
This makes no sense whatsoever, even with the added explanation I cut off. In your story Mr. Evil leaves something that someone else picks up, and uses.
CCP didn't code it so that you can loose your PLEX if you dont decide to make it vulnerable by undocking it.
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Posted - 2010.08.08 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Shiho Weitong
Just because this is one of my most favorite "laws" I'll have to correct you.
Just because it's one of your favourite "laws", I'll give you a free clue.
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Posted - 2010.08.08 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: CyberRaver
Edited by: CyberRaver on 08/08/2010 23:25:29
delete me]
I tried, I couldn access your account tho 
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Posted - 2010.08.09 08:48:00 -
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Just to clear this up; this guy PROBABLY did this on purpouse. AFAIK, he cleared all alliance wallets and assets he could reach, and bought PLEX' for it.
He then proceeded to undock and get blown up. It wouldnt surprise me if he was a spy tbh, or a very disgrunted employee. (Or VERY borded/drunk/intoxicated/planning to leave EVE with a b00m, etc.)
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Posted - 2010.08.10 08:59:00 -
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Edited by: Ressiv on 10/08/2010 08:59:54
Originally by: LoneRider
I am trying to find a reason for that transport but i cannot find any...
Thought about this as well. I think the guy was planning on leaving EVE with a b00m. That, or a lack of braincells.
And yes, PLEX is account based, not toon based. On top, they can be applied as gametime from ANYWHERE in the universe. So there is no need to transport them at all, if they are going to be used for gametime.
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Posted - 2010.08.13 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Apple Buttom
but there was no creation of destruction of sub-time in-game (unless you got yourself banned).
Trash items, Biomass toon with PLEX somewhere in items.
And the conversion from RL money to ISK is called PLEX Also, the moment ANY game company would try and say their in-game pretend money has ANY real world value, you will slap yourself SO hard, that I dont feel obligated to do so anymore ... (ever hear about tax ?)
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