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Xzar Fyrarr
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.08.07 22:52:00 -
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Objectives of the solo boat ->
Be able to Rat whenever possible.
Be able to defend self from a small-ish threat at a moment's notice. Via whatever way possible.
If it can do the ^ then it can kill Haulers/Logistic ships pretty easily too then.
Knowing my play style, if I'm solo, I generally am very confident in the ship I'm flying. Nowadays that would normally be a Jaguar or Hurricane as I have the most solo experience in either of the two. They used to be cheap throw-away ships but with the increase price of Gisti B type small shield boosters.. my Jaguar is now worth more than my Hurricane if I recall correctly.
With that being said, I am very confident in the "Paper stats" of all the ships I can fly. 32million sp and can fly Amarr/Minmatar HACS/Recons/Assault Frigates/Interceptors etc etc very well. I can fly Minmatar in my sleep while being poked by ten 5 year olds. Amarr... I am not as confident about but do have al the support skills more or less maxed out, primarily due to Minmatar.
The target region is Providence. Already know that Amarr ships will have the easiest time ratting there. Harbinger/Curse/Pilgrim/Zealot are my first choices. However, I can't say I like the idea of not being able to cloak in 0.0. Was looking at the Zealot and the Harbinger and finally decided to go with the Harbinger. Although mobility is nice.. I just have this funny feeling that I will survive a lot longer in the Harby.
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Am I doing it right or wrong?
Advice and/or other feedback welcomed.
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Goose99
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Posted - 2010.08.07 23:08:00 -
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A stealth bubble proof t3 should do it.
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Xzar Fyrarr
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.08.07 23:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Goose99
A stealth bubble proof t3 should do it.
... Completely* left T3 out of it without even knowing.
And the Legion or Loki are both relatively short-term skillwise ships to train for...
I Legion it is then...
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2010.08.08 00:40:00 -
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A t3 is your best bet, but if you got decent drone skills and want something a bit cheaper a pilgrim with t2 hammerheads will work too. Wont kill as quickly but good for people on a budget.
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Xzar Fyrarr
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.08.08 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn
A t3 is your best bet, but if you got decent drone skills and want something a bit cheaper a pilgrim with t2 hammerheads will work too. Wont kill as quickly but good for people on a budget.
I don't know how important killing incredibly quickly is in terms of if I want to quickly gank an industrial or two is.
4Mill Sp in drones with pretty much all the support skills at lvl 4 and 5. I'm assuming that is a decent amount?
Guess I'll set my sights on the Legion and then the Loki .
Thanks
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Saint Lazarus
Pwn 'N Play
Chaos Theory Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.08 03:21:00 -
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The thing about the Legion is if you use the cloaky subsystem its DPS really isnt anything special, it puts it on par with the Pilgrim but without the benefit of draining the target dry and its tough to get full tackle gear and remain cap stable and keep a nice tank. In short its a pain to fit
And swappin subsystems every time you see a target isnt exactly an option in hostile 0.0 either.
I love Legion, and its versatile as hell, but flying it around without a cloak is an expensive suicide and flying it with a cloak gimps its PvP and ratting ability to the point you may aswell be flying a Recon which is a fraction of the cost/risk.
On the other hand you have a Pilgrim, its a great 0.0 ratter, but to attack anything with it you basically have to be within web range to make use of the neuts and to web/scram target. So its not the fastest killer in the world and every time you decloak to attack its a risk.
No idea about the Loki tbh, but so far I'm thinkin Pilgrims the best bet of flying around a cloaky PvP capable ship that can also rat. Also the fact Pilgrim and Legion dont use ammo charges is also handy as hell, drones and crystals can last weeks.
Bomber might work too, not the best ratter but v turret rats you can speed tank and pop'em eventually, but you'll fly through ammo.
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Adacia Calla
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.08 03:32:00 -
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This is one of my Loki setups, I think someone posted the same thing on battleclinic somewhere. When I lived in Prov I had a vagabond setup the same way and it was able to rat just fine.
[Loki, Shield PVP]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Combat Scanner Probe I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
Hobgoblin II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
If you're going for a Legion, and want it unscannable, just make sure you have a Dissolution Sequencer and 3x ECCMs and you should be good to go.
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Pistrik
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.08.08 04:00:00 -
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Yes, please bring a T3 down. I get so lonely :(.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.08.08 04:23:00 -
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Have you thought about a Stealth Bomber, they can speed tank battleships and can warp out and cloak much quicker then a cruiser if Loacl spikes.
Its risky but a cheap way to do it and stay allive(watch out for frigates).
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1600 RT
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Posted - 2010.08.08 15:50:00 -
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skill for a ishtar/gila, excellent ratter even with pvp fit and can stay out forever since you wont use any ammo
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2010.08.08 16:41:00 -
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A Pilgrim can be very effective for this. It can effectively rat in a pvp fit and warps cloaked.
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Xzar Fyrarr
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.08.08 17:38:00 -
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Pilgrim it is then.
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.08 18:31:00 -
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cloak/mwd Ishtar. Lacks the cloaked warping, gains more dps and dronespace.
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Hatsumi Kobayashi
D00M.
Excessum Messor
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Posted - 2010.08.08 22:32:00 -
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Also echoing Gila/Ishtar, although Gila might attract more attention due to being faction. Even if it's worth the same as a HAC.
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Linsyn
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Posted - 2010.08.11 12:17:00 -
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Personally I would go Legion although DPS is utter pants This I EFT'd so I'm not certain its right no doubt you can change subs maybe someone else can come up with better.
That being said I fly Legion , Proteus and Tengu. My suggestion to you is train Proteus its by far the best dps depending what you want to set it up to do. I would also use the covert high sub so you can at least warp cloaked which will allow you to get close to haulers etc, and allow you to cloak up and hide if needed
My skills on Legion give basic 237 dps  truly pathetic 277 tank enough for ratting cap stable
Similar setup with Proteus gives me 1 less mid + 1 low 432 dps and 282 tank
Anyhow Legion setup
[Legion, Cloaky Legion]
Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Shadow Serpentis Armor Thermic Hardener
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Large Capacitor Battery II
Faint Warp Disruptor I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Salvager I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
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CAPSLOCKBROKE
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.11 12:28:00 -
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Edited by: CAPSLOCKBROKE on 11/08/2010 12:35:33
What type of rats will you be fighting? This greatly affects the best ship choice imo.
Edit: I fail at reading.
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Yakti
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.11 13:05:00 -
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I use a Deimos for ratting PVP in 0.0
With a proto cloak and a scram, and 5 vespa EC600
Big disadvantage, it eats alot of ammo.
But I usually roam for a few hours then redock
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Elle D
Ars ex Discordia
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.08.11 15:58:00 -
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You should check out the Omen Navy Issue. Great DPS from Pulses, utility highslot for a cloak, 5x Warrior IIs. 7 lows for a good tank, too!
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Zaq Phelps
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.11 23:31:00 -
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First off... Loki>Legion at pretty much everything
Secondly, this is a slight variation on the Loki fit posted before. It shouldn't have a problem tanking/killing providence belt rats, but I'd stay away from sanctums and havens and such. It's a bit better than the one posted before for your purposes because it can covert cloak (meaning you can afk or travel around with relative impunity), but is still mean looking for ganking haulers and other stuff. It could even snag a few ratters fairly easily. You will have to come back to empire, find an NPC station to dock at in Curse/Stain, or have an alt in a blockade runner to drop ammo off for you (big disadvantage to drone boats like the pilgrim). Also, I don't fly minnie so if it is failfit fix it. I'd personally prefer my cloaky nullified Tengu for the better range and damage type flexibility, but whatever.
[Loki, Shield PVP]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
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Kesper North
Caldari
Reliables Inc
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.11 23:57:00 -
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Why not a Vagabond? It's got fantastic EM resists and it is plenty fast enough to GTFO. With 220s and a medium neutral in the utility high you can fry ceptors if they tackle you as you're burning away from a gatecamp.
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Artemis Rose
Clandestine Vector
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Posted - 2010.08.12 12:59:00 -
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All you need to rat safely
1. Local open
2. Safespot you are aligned to
3. Cloak
I'd pick a slow time and/or scout your way past camps/chokeholds and just use any T1 ship w/ an MWD and a cloak. Don't waste your ISK on a cloaky T3, as you'll spend 10-30x more than you would with a T1 ship and make less ISK due to the lolzworthy DPS.
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Crystonaia
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Posted - 2010.08.12 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kesper North
Why not a Vagabond? It's got fantastic EM resists and it is plenty fast enough to GTFO. With 220s and a medium neutral in the utility high you can fry ceptors if they tackle you as you're burning away from a gatecamp.
This, you can easily rat in a vaga :)
bs wont hit you and the frigs are roast beef in one volley.
Just keep an eye out on local and carry your cloak :)
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1600 RT
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Posted - 2010.08.12 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Crystonaia
Originally by: Kesper North
Why not a Vagabond? It's got fantastic EM resists and it is plenty fast enough to GTFO. With 220s and a medium neutral in the utility high you can fry ceptors if they tackle you as you're burning away from a gatecamp.
This, you can easily rat in a vaga :)
bs wont hit you and the frigs are roast beef in one volley.
Just keep an eye out on local and carry your cloak :)
except for the fact that AC eat ammo like peanuts and tjis isnt very good for prolonged stay as the OP ask.
yeah the vaga is fast and can go back pick more ammo but its not invulnerable a good camp will catch it
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Implicatus
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Posted - 2010.08.13 04:14:00 -
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solo in null sec comes in two types like motorcyclists in California, those who've been down and those who are going down.
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