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Drinoch
Kaotic Intentions Cold Hand of Shadow
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Posted - 2012.07.24 21:00:00 -
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Ya know it always makes me laugh when i hear things like..."Real pvpers go to Null...or Low sec". Admittedly this takes place after massive goading on my part to get a fight lol.
The sad thing about this particular insult is I as well as many many others have fought in all 3 arenas..and quit frankly they all have ups and downs. The Primary reason for this particular thread isn't so much to bash on CCP over their horrific changes to hi sec pvp, pretty sure they have gotten the point by now, an if not then they are as dense as a moon.
The primary reason for this post is to hopefully point out that with all the whining that people have done over the changes that have come and are coming to hi-sec pvp no one has spoken up about the rather unique benefits that the ridiculous changes will give us.
1) it is going to give us a myriad more targets..i.e. the idiot carebears who think they are going to be able to kill us once we go "global"
2) The untold number of potential war dec's that will occur cuase some brainchild had the infinitely stupid idea to shoot at our cane with his officer fit Tengu
3) The unimaginable tears that will flow when CCP realizes they have actually caused more grief then solved it
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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
639
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Posted - 2012.07.24 21:08:00 -
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Drinoch wrote: Ya know it always makes me laugh when i hear things like..."Real pvpers go to Null...or Low sec". Admittedly this takes place after massive goading on my part to get a fight lol.
The sad thing about this particular insult is I as well as many many others have fought in all 3 arenas..and quit frankly they all have ups and downs. The Primary reason for this particular thread isn't so much to bash on CCP over their horrific changes to hi sec pvp, pretty sure they have gotten the point by now, an if not then they are as dense as a moon.
The primary reason for this post is to hopefully point out that with all the whining that people have done over the changes that have come and are coming to hi-sec pvp no one has spoken up about the rather unique benefits that the ridiculous changes will give us.
1) it is going to give us a myriad more targets..i.e. the idiot carebears who think they are going to be able to kill us once we go "global"
2) The untold number of potential war dec's that will occur cuase some brainchild had the infinitely stupid idea to shoot at our cane with his officer fit Tengu
3) The unimaginable tears that will flow when CCP realizes they have actually caused more grief then solved it
So what????????? pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones |

Renan Ruivo
Irmandade Vera Cruz Alliance
834
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Posted - 2012.07.24 21:11:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Drinoch wrote: Ya know it always makes me laugh when i hear things like..."Real pvpers go to Null...or Low sec". Admittedly this takes place after massive goading on my part to get a fight lol.
The sad thing about this particular insult is I as well as many many others have fought in all 3 arenas..and quit frankly they all have ups and downs. The Primary reason for this particular thread isn't so much to bash on CCP over their horrific changes to hi sec pvp, pretty sure they have gotten the point by now, an if not then they are as dense as a moon.
The primary reason for this post is to hopefully point out that with all the whining that people have done over the changes that have come and are coming to hi-sec pvp no one has spoken up about the rather unique benefits that the ridiculous changes will give us.
1) it is going to give us a myriad more targets..i.e. the idiot carebears who think they are going to be able to kill us once we go "global"
2) The untold number of potential war dec's that will occur cuase some brainchild had the infinitely stupid idea to shoot at our cane with his officer fit Tengu
3) The unimaginable tears that will flow when CCP realizes they have actually caused more grief then solved it
So what?????????
not empty quoting The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |

Metal Icarus
Minmatar Defence Force
229
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Posted - 2012.07.24 21:11:00 -
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Can you be more specific? I thought I had a good idea, then I read your post again and got confused.
Is it war decced corps can bring in allies?
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Drinoch
Kaotic Intentions Cold Hand of Shadow
10
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Posted - 2012.07.24 21:17:00 -
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To be honest i actually had no specific point..but here goes:
1) We normally looking for expensive fit ships for potential decc's and there will always be some slap happy pilot who thinks cause he spent 5 bill isk on his ship that it is the best ship in the game thus making him rather trigger happy.
2) the Dec system gives us a potential for infinite targets case in point the honda accord /goon war.
And i have no doubt you made a very compelling point in your thread..i wrought this without a great deal of thought or interest in presenting a salution |

Alara IonStorm
2726
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Posted - 2012.07.24 21:19:00 -
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Drinoch wrote: 3) The unimaginable tears that will flow when CCP realizes they have actually caused more grief then solved it
Best real Grief solving mechanism is to make it so it is harder to pick on small Corps and Alliances. Some people have suggested silly things like making the war cost more which doesn't help when the other guys can afford T3's and 3 Nuetral RR Ships or Game breaking stuff like make tiny Corps impossible to War Dec.
Honestly the best thing they could do to help these Corps help themselves is make Watch Alerts require consent and remove Locator Agents.
That way if a 40 man dedicated Corp wants to Dec a Corp with 12 guys in it with only 2-4 guys online at peak hours they actually have to do the leg work to find them instead of having the game do it for them. So sure you can attack a small corp and if you are dedicated and determined you can track them down yourself but if you are just waiting for a watchlist to crack your lucky number send a neutral prober in and warp in for an easy kill... well.
More people who just want to target people would have to start picking target rich Corporations with enough members to possibly fight back or very stupid small ones. Either of which is not a bad thing. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1705
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Posted - 2012.07.24 21:32:00 -
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:Drunkpost:
Shaddup! |

Drinoch
Kaotic Intentions Cold Hand of Shadow
10
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Posted - 2012.07.24 23:43:00 -
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Look in my opinion the best solution to this problem is make an active group focused solely on bounty hunting. For example; A faction warfare type organization dedicated to hunting those of us with bounties.
In other words a faction warfare bounty service. LP plus bounties for every successful kill...exactly like missions but PVP.
For the bounty holders if you will, Concord actually raises the bounties on their heads for each successful kill on the hunters along with LP as well.
Pretty damn simple to me...everyone gets targets...everyone gets LP like faction warfare |

Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
327
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Posted - 2012.07.24 23:53:00 -
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Drinoch wrote: Ya know it always makes me laugh when i hear things like..."Real pvpers go to Null...or Low sec". Admittedly this takes place after massive goading on my part to get a fight lol.
The sad thing about this particular insult is I as well as many many others have fought in all 3 arenas..and quit frankly they all have ups and downs. The Primary reason for this particular thread isn't so much to bash on CCP over their horrific changes to hi sec pvp, pretty sure they have gotten the point by now, an if not then they are as dense as a moon.
The primary reason for this post is to hopefully point out that with all the whining that people have done over the changes that have come and are coming to hi-sec pvp no one has spoken up about the rather unique benefits that the ridiculous changes will give us.
1) it is going to give us a myriad more targets..i.e. the idiot carebears who think they are going to be able to kill us once we go "global"
2) The untold number of potential war dec's that will occur cuase some brainchild had the infinitely stupid idea to shoot at our cane with his officer fit Tengu
3) The unimaginable tears that will flow when CCP realizes they have actually caused more grief then solved it
All I got from that was "I am a bleating coward." Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |

Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Cold Hand of Shadow
133
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Posted - 2012.07.24 23:53:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote: Honestly the best thing they could do to help these Corps help themselves is make Watch Alerts require consent and remove Locator Agents.
How does removing those mechanics "help these corps help themselves"? I missed the part where they started to help themselves in this.
Also, your implications that utilizing both watch lists and locator agents and finding online targets in Alliances less than 100 members does not take work is insulting. I take great care in managing those assets. Oh, and I run a 5ish member corp in an alliance that decs 100+ member alliances all the time. Small corps can fend for themselves, most are just terrible at it or need to find more friends.
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Alara IonStorm
2728
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Posted - 2012.07.25 00:34:00 -
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Tah'ris Khlador wrote: How does removing those mechanics "help these corps help themselves"? I missed the part where they started to help themselves in this.
Simple when dealing with an overly large enemy who picks out targets they can come camp you in a station and you have no way to play. Every time you log on they know that you are online and they know exactly where you are period. If they don't have that advantage over you, if they have to sniff you out themselves without EVE doing it for you it gives you a chance to play the game as a high sec without 10 guys on you at all times you log in automatically. They have to work for it.
Tah'ris Khlador wrote: Also, your implications that utilizing both watch lists and locator agents and finding online targets in Alliances less than 100 members does not take work is insulting.
More for the Alliances that have 100 members dec'ing one with 5.
Can you not find prey without the help of Locators and Watch Lists?
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1708
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Posted - 2012.07.25 01:42:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:
Can you not find prey without the help of Locators and Watch Lists?
Not if you're trying to fap at the same time |

Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Cold Hand of Shadow
133
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Posted - 2012.07.25 02:25:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote: Can you not find prey without the help of Locators and Watch Lists?
You are aware of how large high sec is? I mean, yeah, I don't bother with watch lists when I dec corp/alliances greater than 600 people because you'll always find someone in route to a trade hub. But without locator agents, smaller groups could relatively easily move 30 jumps and then be safe from any interaction. And then I'd be forced just to wander in low or null but since that isn't the area of EVE I choose to play, I'd probably just be done. As I said, I put work into my location intel and there is an even an ingame channel for utilizing other players and their locates.
It sucks to be a 5 person, non-aggressive corp decced by a 100 man corp but that's part of why the ally system exists or MERCs are around. Plenty of people will join up for a free war. |

Drinoch
Kaotic Intentions Cold Hand of Shadow
10
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Posted - 2012.07.25 04:29:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:Drinoch wrote: Ya know it always makes me laugh when i hear things like..."Real pvpers go to Null...or Low sec". Admittedly this takes place after massive goading on my part to get a fight lol.
The sad thing about this particular insult is I as well as many many others have fought in all 3 arenas..and quit frankly they all have ups and downs. The Primary reason for this particular thread isn't so much to bash on CCP over their horrific changes to hi sec pvp, pretty sure they have gotten the point by now, an if not then they are as dense as a moon.
The primary reason for this post is to hopefully point out that with all the whining that people have done over the changes that have come and are coming to hi-sec pvp no one has spoken up about the rather unique benefits that the ridiculous changes will give us.
1) it is going to give us a myriad more targets..i.e. the idiot carebears who think they are going to be able to kill us once we go "global"
2) The untold number of potential war dec's that will occur cuase some brainchild had the infinitely stupid idea to shoot at our cane with his officer fit Tengu
3) The unimaginable tears that will flow when CCP realizes they have actually caused more grief then solved it
All I got from that was "I am a bleating coward."
It's interesting how someone can call another a coward yet hides behind a posting alt.... |

pussnheels
471
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Posted - 2012.07.25 04:39:00 -
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maybe you just wardeccing the wrong corporations , look again and do your research I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |

Drinoch
Kaotic Intentions Cold Hand of Shadow
10
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Posted - 2012.07.25 06:07:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:maybe you just wardeccing the wrong corporations , look again and do your research
I ve seen your kind plenty of times , wardeccing mostly small and medium size corporations who s main interest are industry or missions 9/10 times those corps have only a few people who ever had any pvp experience , and with no reasonable chance of winning they hide , you make them miserable because they can't do the things they like most and you making yourself miserable out of boredom and you blame them And the one time you wardecced a corp that does fight back you guys turn tail and hide because there is a reasonable chance that you will lose and that is the one thing you hate most losing to somebody who is actually better than you
So before you start condemming carebears ask your self who the real carebear actually is
Actually you are so far off track it is laughable...do your research look up my alliance and realize we normally never mess with anything smaller then 100 man corps min unless we have taken a contract...and we are less then 50 active and most of our kills are solo or 2 or 3 on killmail.
So please carebear little bitches do your homework before you start spouting off your pathetic and idiotic comments based on absolutely no knowledge or fore thought what so ever |

Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Cold Hand of Shadow
136
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Posted - 2012.07.25 07:28:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:9/10 times those corps have only a few people who ever had any pvp experience
6.5/10 listings of statistical analysis accurately represents a research study. |

Major Bibi
0
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Posted - 2012.07.25 07:28:00 -
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bla bla bla get over it CCP is not going to give you more targets and lose subscriptions in the proces just because the only thing you can think of is to blow up stuff |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
418
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Posted - 2012.07.25 08:36:00 -
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Tah'ris Khlador wrote:You are aware of how large high sec is? Yawn. EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |

Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
124
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Posted - 2012.07.25 11:20:00 -
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Drinoch wrote:[ So please carebear little bitches do your homework before you start spouting off your pathetic and idiotic comments based on absolutely no knowledge or fore thought what so ever
Project much? You're a gutless boring idiot, this is a forum alt, you can't hit me back.
How does that make you feel, champ?
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
9001
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Posted - 2012.07.25 11:41:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:
Can you not find prey without the help of Locators and Watch Lists?
Not if you're trying to fap at the same time Must try this. *note to self*
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Abon
Pandorum Research Incorporated
64
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Posted - 2012.07.25 11:43:00 -
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Drinoch wrote:[quote=pussnheels]
So please carebear little bitches do your homework before you start spouting off your pathetic and idiotic comments based on absolutely no knowledge or fore thought what so ever
E-Thug detected! |

dexington
65
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Posted - 2012.07.25 11:52:00 -
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Abon wrote:Drinoch wrote:
So please carebear little bitches do your homework before you start spouting off your pathetic and idiotic comments based on absolutely no knowledge or fore thought what so ever
E-Thug detected!
sshhhh, don't get him mad, or he will type 'a cap in yo azz'. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á |

Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
984
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Posted - 2012.07.25 12:02:00 -
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- devoid of constructive content - badly written - full of it - entitled - author possibly whining about somethingsomething - hostile
Yes, this must be a thread by a hiseccer. This one was at least aptly titled.
Shiva Furnace - now recruiting solid pilots! |

Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Cold Hand of Shadow
144
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Posted - 2012.07.25 13:03:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Tah'ris Khlador wrote:You are aware of how large high sec is? Yawn.
Stop that, that **** is contagious! |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
952
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Posted - 2012.07.25 13:41:00 -
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Drinoch wrote: To be honest i actually had no specific point..
Thank you for sharing.
Here's your sign... |

Drinoch
Kaotic Intentions Cold Hand of Shadow
10
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Posted - 2012.07.25 16:03:00 -
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ahahahaha....i love you guys
I freely admit i have no point...am actually saying nothing of value and have no clear end result. And yet you hilarious ppl not only attack me but actually condemn me for it.
In what world do you honestly believe someone values or even cares about your opinions? or for that matter mine to be honest.
This was actually an experiment to honestly see how many would rise to the bait, wow you guys are easy. No wonder it is so easy to get people to rage quit. Anyway children good luck with your forum trolling, and once again you prove how sad humanity has become. rofl |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
539
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Posted - 2012.07.25 16:07:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Drinoch wrote: Ya know it always makes me laugh when i hear things like..."Real pvpers go to Null...or Low sec". Admittedly this takes place after massive goading on my part to get a fight lol.
The sad thing about this particular insult is I as well as many many others have fought in all 3 arenas..and quit frankly they all have ups and downs. The Primary reason for this particular thread isn't so much to bash on CCP over their horrific changes to hi sec pvp, pretty sure they have gotten the point by now, an if not then they are as dense as a moon.
The primary reason for this post is to hopefully point out that with all the whining that people have done over the changes that have come and are coming to hi-sec pvp no one has spoken up about the rather unique benefits that the ridiculous changes will give us.
1) it is going to give us a myriad more targets..i.e. the idiot carebears who think they are going to be able to kill us once we go "global"
2) The untold number of potential war dec's that will occur cuase some brainchild had the infinitely stupid idea to shoot at our cane with his officer fit Tengu
3) The unimaginable tears that will flow when CCP realizes they have actually caused more grief then solved it
So what?????????
This.
brb |

Drinoch
Kaotic Intentions Cold Hand of Shadow
10
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Posted - 2012.07.25 16:44:00 -
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Annnnd still they continue..gotta admit this is a lot more fun then I thought it would be |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
378
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Posted - 2012.07.25 20:45:00 -
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Drinoch wrote:ahahahaha....i love you guys
I freely admit i have no point...am actually saying nothing of value and have no clear end result. And yet you hilarious ppl not only attack me but actually condemn me for it.
In what world do you honestly believe someone values or even cares about your opinions? or for that matter mine to be honest.
This was actually an experiment to honestly see how many would rise to the bait, wow you guys are easy. No wonder it is so easy to get people to rage quit. Anyway children good luck with your forum trolling, and once again you prove how sad humanity has become. rofl
Does your mom know you are using her computer? You want fries with that? |
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