Originally by: Bosie

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Hey Sun, I just read you other flame bait. Did you apply to join TDG and get refused or is it some other issue you have with Life?

Take a bloody chill pill will you!

Bosie.

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Originally by: Bosie

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Hey Sun, I just read you other flame bait. Did you apply to join TDG and get refused or is it some other issue you have with Life?

Take a bloody chill pill will you!

Bosie.

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Originally by: Hatepants

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Edited by: Hatepants on 23/12/2004 04:52:45

hey sun, got bored of f-e handing your ass back to you and started a new career

And ya im a ganker-i kill for the pleasure of seeing the ship go puff. I dont even check the cargo.

You cant ransom anymore, all that went south with castor.

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Originally by: Hatepants

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Edited by: Hatepants on 23/12/2004 04:52:45

hey sun, got bored of f-e handing your ass back to you and started a new career

And ya im a ganker-i kill for the pleasure of seeing the ship go puff. I dont even check the cargo.

You cant ransom anymore, all that went south with castor.

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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Originally by: Hatepants

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Edited by: Hatepants on 23/12/2004 04:52:45

hey sun, got bored of f-e handing your ass back to you and started a new career

And ya im a ganker-i kill for the pleasure of seeing the ship go puff. I dont even check the cargo.

You cant ransom anymore, all that went south with castor.

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Well at least you can admit it unlike others, some peopel make up stuff to try to get respect.

As for f-e handing my ass to me? what?

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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Originally by: Hatepants

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Edited by: Hatepants on 23/12/2004 04:52:45

hey sun, got bored of f-e handing your ass back to you and started a new career

And ya im a ganker-i kill for the pleasure of seeing the ship go puff. I dont even check the cargo.

You cant ransom anymore, all that went south with castor.

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Well at least you can admit it unlike others, some peopel make up stuff to try to get respect.

As for f-e handing my ass to me? what?

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Originally by: Hatepants

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Edited by: Hatepants on 23/12/2004 05:11:44

Originally by: Sun Ra

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Originally by: Hatepants

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Edited by: Hatepants on 23/12/2004 04:52:45

hey sun, got bored of f-e handing your ass back to you and started a new career

And ya im a ganker-i kill for the pleasure of seeing the ship go puff. I dont even check the cargo.

You cant ransom anymore, all that went south with castor.

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Well at least you can admit it unlike others, some peopel make up stuff to try to get respect.

As for f-e handing my ass to me? what?

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Nice of u saying that stuff about teddybears but their jokeing themselfs.

lol last time i ransomed some1 prob was in march in synd, its not posible anymore.

In empire u dont have time cause the sentrys will own u.

In 0.0 its allso pointless since every1 and their uncle has instas, and if u use mobile ws ull have a blob atack u in 10mins

So the only thing u got left is ganking, and this isnt a bad thing, **** happens , game changes

The fun i get from ganking is listening to the swering/whining in local after they lose their ship/pod with no word in local hehe

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Originally by: Hatepants

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Edited by: Hatepants on 23/12/2004 05:11:44

Originally by: Sun Ra

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Originally by: Hatepants

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Edited by: Hatepants on 23/12/2004 04:52:45

hey sun, got bored of f-e handing your ass back to you and started a new career

And ya im a ganker-i kill for the pleasure of seeing the ship go puff. I dont even check the cargo.

You cant ransom anymore, all that went south with castor.

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Well at least you can admit it unlike others, some peopel make up stuff to try to get respect.

As for f-e handing my ass to me? what?

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Nice of u saying that stuff about teddybears but their jokeing themselfs.

lol last time i ransomed some1 prob was in march in synd, its not posible anymore.

In empire u dont have time cause the sentrys will own u.

In 0.0 its allso pointless since every1 and their uncle has instas, and if u use mobile ws ull have a blob atack u in 10mins

So the only thing u got left is ganking, and this isnt a bad thing, **** happens , game changes

The fun i get from ganking is listening to the swering/whining in local after they lose their ship/pod with no word in local hehe

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Originally by: Daakkon

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I ransom people all the time hatepants so yes it is possible just alot harder

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Originally by: Daakkon

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I ransom people all the time hatepants so yes it is possible just alot harder

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Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox

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Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 23/12/2004 05:49:15

I could post and just say IBFTL but then again iv never done that before and see no reason to start now.

I see this post is to us all where you put down TDG based on what you personaly think about lifewire. And at the same time try to not put teddybears down but only if we see your point and remove our self from tdg becouse of lifewire.

Well i find your post untastefull. And if i was to do as you i would have to write some pretty sad stuff about your corp and BoB your allied to sink to your level.

Im sorry captain Sun Ra, you have been a missplace in your corp from the first day teddybears formed. Coming to the forums like this to make a flamebate with one reason only to splitt teddybears from tdg is to sink realy low.

I tell you this. No matter what you think of tdg, teddybears or captain lifewire him self. One thing we have is; Self respect. We dont stab our friends in the back. Teddybears have never let them self be bought, preasured or in any other way forced to act as anyone, but our self want. And us beeing allied with TDG is a conscious choice. One we will stick with as long as our two corps exsists.

Lifewire is more sane, more to be respected, more of a pvp player, more of a tacticker, more of a pirate then you will ever be.

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Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox

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Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 23/12/2004 05:49:15

I could post and just say IBFTL but then again iv never done that before and see no reason to start now.

I see this post is to us all where you put down TDG based on what you personaly think about lifewire. And at the same time try to not put teddybears down but only if we see your point and remove our self from tdg becouse of lifewire.

Well i find your post untastefull. And if i was to do as you i would have to write some pretty sad stuff about your corp and BoB your allied to sink to your level.

Im sorry captain Sun Ra, you have been a missplace in your corp from the first day teddybears formed. Coming to the forums like this to make a flamebate with one reason only to splitt teddybears from tdg is to sink realy low.

I tell you this. No matter what you think of tdg, teddybears or captain lifewire him self. One thing we have is; Self respect. We dont stab our friends in the back. Teddybears have never let them self be bought, preasured or in any other way forced to act as anyone, but our self want. And us beeing allied with TDG is a conscious choice. One we will stick with as long as our two corps exsists.

Lifewire is more sane, more to be respected, more of a pvp player, more of a tacticker, more of a pirate then you will ever be.

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Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox

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And where have i said this things ?

Perhaps you should try piracy before you try to tell us what we want.

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Lifewire says - reduce max. gangsize to 10 or 20 + a skill that allows to have max. 10 more. Fleet battles with more than 60 ships are not really funny. Lag and bugs cause a lot of trouble.

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@lifewire - NPCs don¦t respawn so fast! Once the NPC-rats are shot down, they should need 1-2 days to recover in this system and the NPC-hunting blobbing alliance should be forced to spread out to hunt rats.

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@Lifewire - sec hits in 0.0. It¦s not good pvp to gank someone 20 vs 1 (i know this too Rolling Eyes). One way to reduce these "events" would be to give sec, hits in 0.0. If 20 players attack 1 innocent player in 0.0 they would get 20 sec. hits...all of them. A good reason not to blob and attack on more fair ods.

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@Lifewire - fog of war! The map is one of the main reasons for blobwars and massblobbing. The map shows any enemy movement way before a possible attack happens. This cause antiblobbbing and antiblobbing causes antiantiblobbing with causes antiantiantiblobbing...and so on.

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Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox

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And where have i said this things ?

Perhaps you should try piracy before you try to tell us what we want.

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Lifewire says - reduce max. gangsize to 10 or 20 + a skill that allows to have max. 10 more. Fleet battles with more than 60 ships are not really funny. Lag and bugs cause a lot of trouble.

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@lifewire - NPCs don¦t respawn so fast! Once the NPC-rats are shot down, they should need 1-2 days to recover in this system and the NPC-hunting blobbing alliance should be forced to spread out to hunt rats.

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@Lifewire - sec hits in 0.0. It¦s not good pvp to gank someone 20 vs 1 (i know this too Rolling Eyes). One way to reduce these "events" would be to give sec, hits in 0.0. If 20 players attack 1 innocent player in 0.0 they would get 20 sec. hits...all of them. A good reason not to blob and attack on more fair ods.

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@Lifewire - fog of war! The map is one of the main reasons for blobwars and massblobbing. The map shows any enemy movement way before a possible attack happens. This cause antiblobbbing and antiblobbing causes antiantiblobbing with causes antiantiantiblobbing...and so on.

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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I can't agree with Sun Ra more... and it's not very often that happens.

Lifewire is a lame ass griefer who wants to nerf the game to his playing style. Yet because he pretends to be a pirate, and talks alot on the forums, for some reason people give him kudos for this. While ranting in space a few days ago at me, he was saying that he wants to make his game harder. What a crock of crap. He wants nothing more than to make it as simple to gank people with no reprieve.

If you look back over some of the carebear rants, you will see they are exactly they same overall view... nerf the game to suit my playing style.

People like this shouldn't be encouraged on the forums, they should be locked in cages and poked with sharp sticks.

The beauty of eve is that everyone has a place and when stuff changes in the game you have to adapt or die.

Unfortunately, some people want the game to adapt around them... and then complain even more bitterly when others disagree.

dbp

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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I can't agree with Sun Ra more... and it's not very often that happens.

Lifewire is a lame ass griefer who wants to nerf the game to his playing style. Yet because he pretends to be a pirate, and talks alot on the forums, for some reason people give him kudos for this. While ranting in space a few days ago at me, he was saying that he wants to make his game harder. What a crock of crap. He wants nothing more than to make it as simple to gank people with no reprieve.

If you look back over some of the carebear rants, you will see they are exactly they same overall view... nerf the game to suit my playing style.

People like this shouldn't be encouraged on the forums, they should be locked in cages and poked with sharp sticks.

The beauty of eve is that everyone has a place and when stuff changes in the game you have to adapt or die.

Unfortunately, some people want the game to adapt around them... and then complain even more bitterly when others disagree.

dbp

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Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox

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Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 23/12/2004 07:37:02

Ofcource i will defend him. Im on teamspeak 15 houers a day with him.

People have diferent ways of comunicating, and diferent ways of playing the game. To me it sounds more like you are saying "I play the game right, you dont"

Why teddybears are named in this thread and its subject i have no ide if not to try to give us a bad name by trying to bring life down with lies.

This is the second thread started by your corp member + 1 more from an alt after a battle. Thats 3 threads after we came back to pb 1 1/2 week ago. I dont understand this. Why dont you guys take your issues with us in game instead of bringing it to the forums. Have you ever seen TDG or teddy bring any interaction between us and others to the forum unless its give positive feedback to our opponents ?

No, we dont do this. Still you and your men seems to do this frequently.

To us, everyone not in tdg are sheeps. You, rkk , bob or jokers are no diferent to us. We dont complain when killed and dont flame you when we kill you. Not ingame nor on the forums.

So why is it that we cant get the same kind of respect from your side that we clearly give your side.

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Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox

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Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 23/12/2004 07:37:02

Ofcource i will defend him. Im on teamspeak 15 houers a day with him.

People have diferent ways of comunicating, and diferent ways of playing the game. To me it sounds more like you are saying "I play the game right, you dont"

Why teddybears are named in this thread and its subject i have no ide if not to try to give us a bad name by trying to bring life down with lies.

This is the second thread started by your corp member + 1 more from an alt after a battle. Thats 3 threads after we came back to pb 1 1/2 week ago. I dont understand this. Why dont you guys take your issues with us in game instead of bringing it to the forums. Have you ever seen TDG or teddy bring any interaction between us and others to the forum unless its give positive feedback to our opponents ?

No, we dont do this. Still you and your men seems to do this frequently.

To us, everyone not in tdg are sheeps. You, rkk , bob or jokers are no diferent to us. We dont complain when killed and dont flame you when we kill you. Not ingame nor on the forums.

So why is it that we cant get the same kind of respect from your side that we clearly give your side.

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Originally by: Frankinator

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Can't...stand...the....tension...

/me faints

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Originally by: Frankinator

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Can't...stand...the....tension...

/me faints

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox

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Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 23/12/2004 07:37:02

Ofcource i will defend him. Im on teamspeak 15 houers a day with him.

People have diferent ways of comunicating, and diferent ways of playing the game. To me it sounds more like you are saying "I play the game right, you dont"

Why teddybears are named in this thread and its subject i have no ide if not to try to give us a bad name by trying to bring life down with lies.

This is the second thread started by your corp member + 1 more from an alt after a battle. Thats 3 threads after we came back to pb 1 1/2 week ago. I dont understand this. Why dont you guys take your issues with us in game instead of bringing it to the forums. Have you ever seen TDG or teddy bring any interaction between us and others to the forum unless its give positive feedback to our opponents ?

No, we dont do this. Still you and your men seems to do this frequently.

To us, everyone not in tdg are sheeps. You, rkk , bob or jokers are no diferent to us. We dont complain when killed and dont flame you when we kill you. Not ingame nor on the forums.

So why is it that we cant get the same kind of respect from your side that we clearly give your side.

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Again u ignore everything i say maybe u dont read his posts? he calls us B(l)oB and says its unfair we run around in larges groups, but its us moaning about u??????

Never ever have i asked once for ur game to be nerfed or that you shouldnt do wot u do, i dont like carebears but if they wanna sit 8 hours a day mining veld in empire i wont post on the forums to nerf them, but life does.

As for my for my post on the other thread maybe i was abit out of order but i knew u guys would comment to jokers on how they play and say stuff about them working with bob

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox

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Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 23/12/2004 07:37:02

Ofcource i will defend him. Im on teamspeak 15 houers a day with him.

People have diferent ways of comunicating, and diferent ways of playing the game. To me it sounds more like you are saying "I play the game right, you dont"

Why teddybears are named in this thread and its subject i have no ide if not to try to give us a bad name by trying to bring life down with lies.

This is the second thread started by your corp member + 1 more from an alt after a battle. Thats 3 threads after we came back to pb 1 1/2 week ago. I dont understand this. Why dont you guys take your issues with us in game instead of bringing it to the forums. Have you ever seen TDG or teddy bring any interaction between us and others to the forum unless its give positive feedback to our opponents ?

No, we dont do this. Still you and your men seems to do this frequently.

To us, everyone not in tdg are sheeps. You, rkk , bob or jokers are no diferent to us. We dont complain when killed and dont flame you when we kill you. Not ingame nor on the forums.

So why is it that we cant get the same kind of respect from your side that we clearly give your side.

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Again u ignore everything i say maybe u dont read his posts? he calls us B(l)oB and says its unfair we run around in larges groups, but its us moaning about u??????

Never ever have i asked once for ur game to be nerfed or that you shouldnt do wot u do, i dont like carebears but if they wanna sit 8 hours a day mining veld in empire i wont post on the forums to nerf them, but life does.

As for my for my post on the other thread maybe i was abit out of order but i knew u guys would comment to jokers on how they play and say stuff about them working with bob

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Originally by: Negotiator

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... overzealous.

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Originally by: Negotiator

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... overzealous.

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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Originally by: Frankinator

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Can't...stand...the....tension...

/me faints

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Sorry frank but im just annoyed he can make such post but others cant

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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Originally by: Frankinator

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Can't...stand...the....tension...

/me faints

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Sorry frank but im just annoyed he can make such post but others cant

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Originally by: Maule

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But Zarq. I dunno if you read it but sun ra did say that bob did fly in blobs, whit the intension of getting a fight (when the enemy is blobbing aswell) and dont do it not to get any fights so what you said about "are you trying to say that bob dont fly in blobs" is rubbish(sp?)

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Originally by: Maule

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But Zarq. I dunno if you read it but sun ra did say that bob did fly in blobs, whit the intension of getting a fight (when the enemy is blobbing aswell) and dont do it not to get any fights so what you said about "are you trying to say that bob dont fly in blobs" is rubbish(sp?)

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Originally by: SwitchBl4d3

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this topic has no meaning no value no content.

it's just a outright dig at one individual. you got a problem start a war. not some buhu on how the games played..

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Originally by: SwitchBl4d3

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this topic has no meaning no value no content.

it's just a outright dig at one individual. you got a problem start a war. not some buhu on how the games played..

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Originally by: Discorporation

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Zarquan, Sun's beef with Lifewire is that he seems to deride carebears for wanting to make the game adhere to their vision, while at the same time pressing more and more for the game to conform to HIS vision.

Most of his ideas involve benefitting himself directly, wether that is through trying to argue to make piracy confirm to his (rather skewed) vision of what it should be like.

This in itself isn't bad. We all want to make the game better then it is, and we all want the game to be played in our own special way. However, Lifewire seems to manage to drag his visions on piracy, 0.0 and large-scale warfare into EVERY debate he gets into, wehter it is related to the subject or not.

You defending him is fine. He's your friend. I'd defend my friends if they're passionate about a subject.


Everzealous means "too passionate", or something like that.

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Originally by: Discorporation

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Zarquan, Sun's beef with Lifewire is that he seems to deride carebears for wanting to make the game adhere to their vision, while at the same time pressing more and more for the game to conform to HIS vision.

Most of his ideas involve benefitting himself directly, wether that is through trying to argue to make piracy confirm to his (rather skewed) vision of what it should be like.

This in itself isn't bad. We all want to make the game better then it is, and we all want the game to be played in our own special way. However, Lifewire seems to manage to drag his visions on piracy, 0.0 and large-scale warfare into EVERY debate he gets into, wehter it is related to the subject or not.

You defending him is fine. He's your friend. I'd defend my friends if they're passionate about a subject.


Everzealous means "too passionate", or something like that.

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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I started this post because another post got de-railed by this discussion, mostly down to my post on it.

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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I started this post because another post got de-railed by this discussion, mostly down to my post on it.

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Originally by: MadGaz

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Hey Frank can I buy JQA off you?

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Originally by: MadGaz

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Hey Frank can I buy JQA off you?

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Originally by: Frankinator

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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I started this post because another post got de-railed by this discussion, mostly down to my post on it.

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<3 we're still IRC boyfriends right?

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Originally by: Frankinator

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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I started this post because another post got de-railed by this discussion, mostly down to my post on it.

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<3 we're still IRC boyfriends right?

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Originally by: Tooshy

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Dunno why but some how if I weren't in ATUK I would had join Teddybears or Tundragon (or M0o). With Teddy's on first place.

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Originally by: Tooshy

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Dunno why but some how if I weren't in ATUK I would had join Teddybears or Tundragon (or M0o). With Teddy's on first place.

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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Edited by: Sun Ra on 23/12/2004 10:53:24
You think we never fight blobs? the PA used to bring all their carebears up from and have 150 people against maybe 50 of us, did stop us nope, we too know how to handle blobs, but we see theres no need to post of the forums ideas in the game to anti blob, we just adapt to deal with them and send them packing to empire again.

30 max in a gang wont work, you'll just have 4 gangs of 30 flying together

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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Edited by: Sun Ra on 23/12/2004 10:53:24
You think we never fight blobs? the PA used to bring all their carebears up from and have 150 people against maybe 50 of us, did stop us nope, we too know how to handle blobs, but we see theres no need to post of the forums ideas in the game to anti blob, we just adapt to deal with them and send them packing to empire again.

30 max in a gang wont work, you'll just have 4 gangs of 30 flying together

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30 max in a gang wont work, you'll just have 4 gangs of 30 flying together

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30 max in a gang wont work, you'll just have 4 gangs of 30 flying together

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Edited by: Lifewire on 23/12/2004 11:01:04

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30 max in a gang wont work, you'll just have 4 gangs of 30 flying together

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You should try 30 gangs of 4 players - would help a lot to get a good kill-list. 1000 members with 5000 kills is more than pathetic and shows how blobbing backstabs your own team. Your blobbing makes you have less kills --> less loot, less tollings (if you can do tolling in a fleet battle lol). You complain a lot in this topic about that piracy was so badly nerfed that there is no way to make ISK with piracy. And this is your mistake: piracy still pays and it pays very good if you form small sized groups that farm traffic. It won¦t pay if you blob arround like an alliance, because you¦ll never get these extreme kill-ammount we get. Your whole chain of argues that you blob because piracy was so badly nerfed is completly wrong. Piracy works and the only thing that i miss is getting sec. hits for my crimes.

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Edited by: Lifewire on 23/12/2004 11:01:04

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30 max in a gang wont work, you'll just have 4 gangs of 30 flying together

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You should try 30 gangs of 4 players - would help a lot to get a good kill-list. 1000 members with 5000 kills is more than pathetic and shows how blobbing backstabs your own team. Your blobbing makes you have less kills --> less loot, less tollings (if you can do tolling in a fleet battle lol). You complain a lot in this topic about that piracy was so badly nerfed that there is no way to make ISK with piracy. And this is your mistake: piracy still pays and it pays very good if you form small sized groups that farm traffic. It won¦t pay if you blob arround like an alliance, because you¦ll never get these extreme kill-ammount we get. Your whole chain of argues that you blob because piracy was so badly nerfed is completly wrong. Piracy works and the only thing that i miss is getting sec. hits for my crimes.

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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The Teddybears

I always thought you guys were cool, i always see you roleplaying the pirate and you at least try toll and ransom people rather than be pure gankers, it saddened me to see you guys align yourself with the pure ganker group called the Tundragons, but i can understand why you've done this, CCP made pirating near impossible and the bottom line is you guys are into small scale pvp and hanging around

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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The Teddybears

I always thought you guys were cool, i always see you roleplaying the pirate and you at least try toll and ransom people rather than be pure gankers, it saddened me to see you guys align yourself with the pure ganker group called the Tundragons, but i can understand why you've done this, CCP made pirating near impossible and the bottom line is you guys are into small scale pvp and hanging around

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Edited by: Lifewire on 23/12/2004 11:01:04

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30 max in a gang wont work, you'll just have 4 gangs of 30 flying together

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You should try 30 gangs of 4 players - would help a lot to get a good kill-list. 1000 members with 5000 kills is more than pathetic and shows how blobbing backstabs your own team. Your blobbing makes you have less kills --> less loot, less tollings (if you can do tolling in a fleet battle lol). You complain a lot in this topic about that piracy was so badly nerfed that there is no way to make ISK with piracy. And this is your mistake: piracy still pays and it pays very good if you form small sized groups that farm traffic. It won¦t pay if you blob arround like an alliance, because you¦ll never get these extreme kill-ammount we get. Your whole chain of argues that you blob because piracy was so badly nerfed is completly wrong. Piracy works and the only thing that i miss is getting sec. hits for my crimes.

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Edited by: Lifewire on 23/12/2004 11:01:04

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30 max in a gang wont work, you'll just have 4 gangs of 30 flying together

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You should try 30 gangs of 4 players - would help a lot to get a good kill-list. 1000 members with 5000 kills is more than pathetic and shows how blobbing backstabs your own team. Your blobbing makes you have less kills --> less loot, less tollings (if you can do tolling in a fleet battle lol). You complain a lot in this topic about that piracy was so badly nerfed that there is no way to make ISK with piracy. And this is your mistake: piracy still pays and it pays very good if you form small sized groups that farm traffic. It won¦t pay if you blob arround like an alliance, because you¦ll never get these extreme kill-ammount we get. Your whole chain of argues that you blob because piracy was so badly nerfed is completly wrong. Piracy works and the only thing that i miss is getting sec. hits for my crimes.

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Originally by: Lefevre

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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The Teddybears

I always thought you guys were cool, i always see you roleplaying the pirate and you at least try toll and ransom people rather than be pure gankers, it saddened me to see you guys align yourself with the pure ganker group called the Tundragons, but i can understand why you've done this, CCP made pirating near impossible and the bottom line is you guys are into small scale pvp and hanging around

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Dear Sun Ra. I have been fighting you and your corp RKK for longer then I can remember in this game. You used to be the anti-pirates then you aligned with "gankers" yourself as you call it.

Who are you to comment who we work with? Please don't get me wrong I don't mind the corp RKK or the people they work with I just don't see how you can make a comment like that.

PS. Merry Christmas everyone

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Originally by: Lefevre

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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The Teddybears

I always thought you guys were cool, i always see you roleplaying the pirate and you at least try toll and ransom people rather than be pure gankers, it saddened me to see you guys align yourself with the pure ganker group called the Tundragons, but i can understand why you've done this, CCP made pirating near impossible and the bottom line is you guys are into small scale pvp and hanging around

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Dear Sun Ra. I have been fighting you and your corp RKK for longer then I can remember in this game. You used to be the anti-pirates then you aligned with "gankers" yourself as you call it.

Who are you to comment who we work with? Please don't get me wrong I don't mind the corp RKK or the people they work with I just don't see how you can make a comment like that.

PS. Merry Christmas everyone

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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We gank but we dont try to hide the fact. My post dealt with the facts are you pirates or are you gankers, is there any diffrence, pirates toll, gankers dont? how often do you toll? if hardly doesn't that mean you are no longer pirates but just gankers? please explain

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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We gank but we dont try to hide the fact. My post dealt with the facts are you pirates or are you gankers, is there any diffrence, pirates toll, gankers dont? how often do you toll? if hardly doesn't that mean you are no longer pirates but just gankers? please explain

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[ 2004.12.21 20:56:07 ] DB Preacher > sorry don't deal with whiners

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[ 2004.12.21 20:56:07 ] DB Preacher > sorry don't deal with whiners

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Originally by: Lifewire

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I am sorry for you that you can¦t see how much EVE would be improved with my ideas so i keep arguing - if you and DB Preacher think it¦s a good idea to flame instead of arguing and working together on a better game, then do this. It¦s your reputation that suffers.

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Originally by: Lifewire

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I am sorry for you that you can¦t see how much EVE would be improved with my ideas so i keep arguing - if you and DB Preacher think it¦s a good idea to flame instead of arguing and working together on a better game, then do this. It¦s your reputation that suffers.

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Originally by: Daakkon

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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I can't agree with Sun Ra more... and it's not very often that happens.

Lifewire is a lame ass griefer who wants to nerf the game to his playing style. Yet because he pretends to be a pirate, and talks alot on the forums, for some reason people give him kudos for this. While ranting in space a few days ago at me, he was saying that he wants to make his game harder. What a crock of crap. He wants nothing more than to make it as simple to gank people with no reprieve.

If you look back over some of the carebear rants, you will see they are exactly they same overall view... nerf the game to suit my playing style.

People like this shouldn't be encouraged on the forums, they should be locked in cages and poked with sharp sticks.

The beauty of eve is that everyone has a place and when stuff changes in the game you have to adapt or die.

Unfortunately, some people want the game to adapt around them... and then complain even more bitterly when others disagree.

dbp

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DBP for prez!

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Originally by: Daakkon

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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I can't agree with Sun Ra more... and it's not very often that happens.

Lifewire is a lame ass griefer who wants to nerf the game to his playing style. Yet because he pretends to be a pirate, and talks alot on the forums, for some reason people give him kudos for this. While ranting in space a few days ago at me, he was saying that he wants to make his game harder. What a crock of crap. He wants nothing more than to make it as simple to gank people with no reprieve.

If you look back over some of the carebear rants, you will see they are exactly they same overall view... nerf the game to suit my playing style.

People like this shouldn't be encouraged on the forums, they should be locked in cages and poked with sharp sticks.

The beauty of eve is that everyone has a place and when stuff changes in the game you have to adapt or die.

Unfortunately, some people want the game to adapt around them... and then complain even more bitterly when others disagree.

dbp

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DBP for prez!

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Actually fine that a Celestial Apoc corp member shows up!

Celstial Apoc are known to be one of the last true pirate hunter corps and i would like to know of you guys: would you prefer having a weird mass of players with white bracket or would you prefer having game mechanisms that allow you you to definitvly know who is pirate and who is only a guy that wants to make some ISK in 0.0? I try to imagine how i would think if i would be in Celstial Apoc. I probaly "would want to be roleplaying close to police - player police". I would try to kill lots of the evil guys and help the weak victims. But: i would have one problem: how do i know who is who??? How can i try to play a "police character" when there is no crime in 0.0 and nobody knows who does crimes and who is in a war or who is simply totally peacefull. Celestial Apocs career type is as bugged as ours, even if you still try to keep it alive.

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Originally by: Graelyn

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"We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!"

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[18:46:36] Weebear > WTS Electric Golf Cart, 1 careful owner. Phone Rome 555 6567

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Actually fine that a Celestial Apoc corp member shows up!

Celstial Apoc are known to be one of the last true pirate hunter corps and i would like to know of you guys: would you prefer having a weird mass of players with white bracket or would you prefer having game mechanisms that allow you you to definitvly know who is pirate and who is only a guy that wants to make some ISK in 0.0? I try to imagine how i would think if i would be in Celstial Apoc. I probaly "would want to be roleplaying close to police - player police". I would try to kill lots of the evil guys and help the weak victims. But: i would have one problem: how do i know who is who??? How can i try to play a "police character" when there is no crime in 0.0 and nobody knows who does crimes and who is in a war or who is simply totally peacefull. Celestial Apocs career type is as bugged as ours, even if you still try to keep it alive.

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Originally by: Graelyn

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"We're at war with you, and you FIRED on us! I am so telling CONCORD!"

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as for the Teddys and Tundragons i think i can speak for most of the ppl in Celest that we think that they are the only real pirates left since they actually dont do silly naps left and right with anyone.
as do also most ppl out there know that the teddys and tundragons are propably the most feared and respected pirates in eve.

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as for the Teddys and Tundragons i think i can speak for most of the ppl in Celest that we think that they are the only real pirates left since they actually dont do silly naps left and right with anyone.
as do also most ppl out there know that the teddys and tundragons are propably the most feared and respected pirates in eve.

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Originally by: Nervar

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Hi my name is Nervar and i hate christmas

Piracy is alive, pretty hard these days but still a viable inncome.
We toll( that INCLUDES Teddys,TDG,Bncl)on a VERY regular basis.
Correct we dont toll ships as its just not worth it, we toll podds/implants wich people do pay for.
We do have mebembers(both TDG,Teddys) empire pirate wich do toll ships included whenever they can)
And sometimes we are just sadistic and say pod or post, the evidence are on crime and phunisment somewhere.
How your able to coment on that is beyond mee as you clearly dont stalk us or have acsess to our convos with people we do toll.

Ganking is a tool of the trade it come with the job.

Sometimes they pay sometimes they dont. Sometimes we hit the motherload.

Now to the flames against Lifewire and Tundragon, well thats just bad karma dude.
Some of Lifeiwres ideas i think is good some of them just plain horrible but hes more than allowed to have his opinions on stuff and express them on the forum..
What else are the forums for right??

Tundragon are bunch of good guys and they have my respect for their pvp capabilits and tactics. And it seems that the people inn here flamin them knows nothing about them.

On to the whole blob thing. Well what can, i say i hate them i personally blame alliances and blobs for sorta ruining the game.
Once had a vision that 0.0 would bee populated like Empire but choke points blobs and alliances claiming huge areas just ended that dream.

I hate Christmass but i guess a merry Christmas and ahappy new year is inn order

Sorry for bad spelling, deal with it.

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Originally by: Nervar

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Hi my name is Nervar and i hate christmas

Piracy is alive, pretty hard these days but still a viable inncome.
We toll( that INCLUDES Teddys,TDG,Bncl)on a VERY regular basis.
Correct we dont toll ships as its just not worth it, we toll podds/implants wich people do pay for.
We do have mebembers(both TDG,Teddys) empire pirate wich do toll ships included whenever they can)
And sometimes we are just sadistic and say pod or post, the evidence are on crime and phunisment somewhere.
How your able to coment on that is beyond mee as you clearly dont stalk us or have acsess to our convos with people we do toll.

Ganking is a tool of the trade it come with the job.

Sometimes they pay sometimes they dont. Sometimes we hit the motherload.

Now to the flames against Lifewire and Tundragon, well thats just bad karma dude.
Some of Lifeiwres ideas i think is good some of them just plain horrible but hes more than allowed to have his opinions on stuff and express them on the forum..
What else are the forums for right??

Tundragon are bunch of good guys and they have my respect for their pvp capabilits and tactics. And it seems that the people inn here flamin them knows nothing about them.

On to the whole blob thing. Well what can, i say i hate them i personally blame alliances and blobs for sorta ruining the game.
Once had a vision that 0.0 would bee populated like Empire but choke points blobs and alliances claiming huge areas just ended that dream.

I hate Christmass but i guess a merry Christmas and ahappy new year is inn order

Sorry for bad spelling, deal with it.

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PVP is on a very down note compared to what it used to be. People are unwilling to fight in small engagements because there are so many I WIN gank setups and a lot of alliances who blob 20 people on 1 guy to ensure victory. Theres a great lack of mojo among the pvp comunity atm.

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PVP is on a very down note compared to what it used to be. People are unwilling to fight in small engagements because there are so many I WIN gank setups and a lot of alliances who blob 20 people on 1 guy to ensure victory. Theres a great lack of mojo among the pvp comunity atm.

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Perfect example of this is Nafri moaning about a gang of 10 killing him flying around solo, was this group out to get him? no, did he get in our way while we were going to engage a FA camp in EC-P? yes, should we be nerfed to suit him? hell no

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long list of people who killed me and THEN i dont blame you for this, would have done it probably too,

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Perfect example of this is Nafri moaning about a gang of 10 killing him flying around solo, was this group out to get him? no, did he get in our way while we were going to engage a FA camp in EC-P? yes, should we be nerfed to suit him? hell no

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long list of people who killed me and THEN i dont blame you for this, would have done it probably too,

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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The Teddybears

I always thought you guys were cool, i always see you roleplaying the pirate and you at least try toll and ransom people rather than be pure gankers, it saddened me to see you guys align yourself with the pure ganker group called the Tundragons, but i can understand why you've done this, CCP made pirating near impossible and the bottom line is you guys are into small scale pvp and hanging around

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Originally by: Sun Ra

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The Teddybears

I always thought you guys were cool, i always see you roleplaying the pirate and you at least try toll and ransom people rather than be pure gankers, it saddened me to see you guys align yourself with the pure ganker group called the Tundragons, but i can understand why you've done this, CCP made pirating near impossible and the bottom line is you guys are into small scale pvp and hanging around

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Edited by: Lifewire on 23/12/2004 18:56:08

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PVP is on a very down note compared to what it used to be. People are unwilling to fight in small engagements because there are so many I WIN gank setups and a lot of alliances who blob 20 people on 1 guy to ensure victory. Theres a great lack of mojo among the pvp comunity atm.

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Oh hellooooo - do i hear a guy realizing some facts and starting to activate brain about what happens in EVE??? Be carefull that you wont be called "whiner". Looks like you are a little bit unhappy with EVEs PvP. "Opportunistc" PvP leads to blobbing, ganking and boring PvP.

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Edited by: Lifewire on 23/12/2004 18:56:08

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PVP is on a very down note compared to what it used to be. People are unwilling to fight in small engagements because there are so many I WIN gank setups and a lot of alliances who blob 20 people on 1 guy to ensure victory. Theres a great lack of mojo among the pvp comunity atm.

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Oh hellooooo - do i hear a guy realizing some facts and starting to activate brain about what happens in EVE??? Be carefull that you wont be called "whiner". Looks like you are a little bit unhappy with EVEs PvP. "Opportunistc" PvP leads to blobbing, ganking and boring PvP.

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Originally by: Chode Rizoum

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i fell all hates me lol when i read this thread

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Originally by: Chode Rizoum

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i fell all hates me lol when i read this thread

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The real problem is...Lifewire is a fairly small-time griefer/ganker, who isn't quite capable of "roleplaying the real pirate" as he calls it. Sun hit the nail on the head, on the forums his mission is to incite grief, and nerf the game into his own personal gank zone.

In game....his mission is to gank you and go for easy kills. Against greater numbers...you'll get some smack. Against even numbers, you'll get some smack. Against a numerically inferior force, he will engage 5-1. Smart tactics...but you sure don't get any respect for em. (Yes, I did get tagged 5-1 3 seperate times, fortunately they never were quite able to destroy me.)

Anyways...everyone please continue laying the smack-down upon the eternal ganker.

FORUM BLOB!!!!

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The real problem is...Lifewire is a fairly small-time griefer/ganker, who isn't quite capable of "roleplaying the real pirate" as he calls it. Sun hit the nail on the head, on the forums his mission is to incite grief, and nerf the game into his own personal gank zone.

In game....his mission is to gank you and go for easy kills. Against greater numbers...you'll get some smack. Against even numbers, you'll get some smack. Against a numerically inferior force, he will engage 5-1. Smart tactics...but you sure don't get any respect for em. (Yes, I did get tagged 5-1 3 seperate times, fortunately they never were quite able to destroy me.)

Anyways...everyone please continue laying the smack-down upon the eternal ganker.

FORUM BLOB!!!!

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Originally by: j0sephine

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Five pages long thread in less than a day; geez. whoever said forum blob, was right o.O;

Anyway, not going to touch the main subject, just something small that hit the wrong note as i was reading my way down:

"To us, everyone not in tdg are sheeps. You, rkk , bob or jokers are no diferent to us. We dont complain when killed and dont flame you when we kill you. Not ingame nor on the forums.

So why is it that we cant get the same kind of respect from your side that we clearly give your side."

Zarquon, if am not misreading what you said here, and if you're honest about that statement how everyone who is not part of your corporation is just a sheep to you and your corpmates... then it looks like your complaint has no base, since you are receiving the very same kind of respect you are clearly giving the others.

That is, none.

(i do hope am actually misreading it, though)

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Originally by: j0sephine

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Five pages long thread in less than a day; geez. whoever said forum blob, was right o.O;

Anyway, not going to touch the main subject, just something small that hit the wrong note as i was reading my way down:

"To us, everyone not in tdg are sheeps. You, rkk , bob or jokers are no diferent to us. We dont complain when killed and dont flame you when we kill you. Not ingame nor on the forums.

So why is it that we cant get the same kind of respect from your side that we clearly give your side."

Zarquon, if am not misreading what you said here, and if you're honest about that statement how everyone who is not part of your corporation is just a sheep to you and your corpmates... then it looks like your complaint has no base, since you are receiving the very same kind of respect you are clearly giving the others.

That is, none.

(i do hope am actually misreading it, though)

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Originally by: Neon Genesis

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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 24/12/2004 00:10:51
But in the case of RKK and other corps, these sheep have big pointy teeth and are v bloodthirsty

Dont mess with da sheepz

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Originally by: Neon Genesis

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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 24/12/2004 00:10:51
But in the case of RKK and other corps, these sheep have big pointy teeth and are v bloodthirsty

Dont mess with da sheepz

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Originally by: j0sephine

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"no its just like

pirates = predators (wolf)

other = prey (sheep)

there only a few wolfs, who needs lot of sheeps to survive

its a RL thing"

Aye, close to what i read; and since it's not like one has respect for their food or treat it as equal... in the end, still boils down to no respect given? ^^;;

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Originally by: j0sephine

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"no its just like

pirates = predators (wolf)

other = prey (sheep)

there only a few wolfs, who needs lot of sheeps to survive

its a RL thing"

Aye, close to what i read; and since it's not like one has respect for their food or treat it as equal... in the end, still boils down to no respect given? ^^;;

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Originally by: Neon Genesis

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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 24/12/2004 00:10:51
But in the case of RKK and other corps, these sheep have big pointy teeth and are v bloodthirsty

Dont mess with da sheepz

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Originally by: Neon Genesis

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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 24/12/2004 00:10:51
But in the case of RKK and other corps, these sheep have big pointy teeth and are v bloodthirsty

Dont mess with da sheepz

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Originally by: Betty Boom

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TunDraGon owns RKK and they start a whining tread.

Sun RA, go and shoot a gate.

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Originally by: Betty Boom

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TunDraGon owns RKK and they start a whining tread.

Sun RA, go and shoot a gate.

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Originally by: j0sephine

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"no its just like

pirates = predators (wolf)

other = prey (sheep)

there only a few wolfs, who needs lot of sheeps to survive

its a RL thing"

Aye, close to what i read; and since it's not like one has respect for their food or treat it as equal... in the end, still boils down to no respect given? ^^;;

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Originally by: j0sephine

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"no its just like

pirates = predators (wolf)

other = prey (sheep)

there only a few wolfs, who needs lot of sheeps to survive

its a RL thing"

Aye, close to what i read; and since it's not like one has respect for their food or treat it as equal... in the end, still boils down to no respect given? ^^;;

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Blablabla, reading this when i am just back from our latest funny battle vs MF and CIE makes me laugh. Since a lot of pilots start to enjoy smaller corpsized engagements we offer them fun and they offer it to us.

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Am3n br0th4, any fight involving 20 or so battleships on each side is braindead and stupid, its lock, shoot, and new target.
The smaller the engagement the more micromanaging you have to do to stay on top, and the performance of the individual is also of a much higher importance when the number of fighters aren't so high.

Insta kill = bad for pvp.
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Originally by: Lifewire

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Blablabla, reading this when i am just back from our latest funny battle vs MF and CIE makes me laugh. Since a lot of pilots start to enjoy smaller corpsized engagements we offer them fun and they offer it to us.

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Am3n br0th4, any fight involving 20 or so battleships on each side is braindead and stupid, its lock, shoot, and new target.
The smaller the engagement the more micromanaging you have to do to stay on top, and the performance of the individual is also of a much higher importance when the number of fighters aren't so high.

Insta kill = bad for pvp.
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