Originally by: Shawna Gray

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Originally by: sentinel22uk

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You enter a system and everybody immediately safes up/cloaks/docks, do you have any idea how much time and effort it takes to kill one person solo anymore ?

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Does it matter? 0.0 is hardly balanced around solopvp.

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A simple delayed local in null sec would solve every problem every person who wants to fight faces, and in turn would send prices of 0.0 gained materials sky high.
IMO every person who lives in 0.0 to PvP would enjoy this, if you want to be in a safe heaven stay in highsec, don't come to 0.0 to mine arkonor and expect to be safe.

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You didnt think this through.

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EDIT: Plus people are talking about a delayed local making it impossible to rat in lowsec... Why ? Nobody would know you were there, they would only see your ship on D-scan ( within 14.4AU of course ).

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Its not much effort to scan through belts.

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If you want to reap the profits of 0.0 and the meager profits of lowsec, people should learn to live in these environments and adapt their techniques. For example, instead of using that big hefty dominix to kill belt rats, use a nano-fast align shield tanked battlecruiser/hac and warp as soon as you see anything on d-scan within 1-4 AU.

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Why bother when your empire alt can run missions, trade and do invention etc instead. The utter stupidity of spamming d-scan every 2 seconds is certainly more than enough to keep me away from any belts.

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If you get caught by a instalocking stealth bomber de-cloak, then fair game.

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Cloaks would be nerfed soon after local disappears.

0.0 is already more of a battleground than a place where you live. CCP is actually trying to encourage more characters to move out there, not less.

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Originally by: Sky Marshal

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Edited by: Sky Marshal on 16/08/2010 16:05:45

Originally by: sentinel22uk

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If local was removed I can't see why people would be using cloaked ships for anything other than they are used now days for pvp....

Plus a cloaked ship has nothing on a 130k EHP typhoon...

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All PVP ships today don't have a cloack. Why the point to get a cloack if you are showed in Local ? Apart if you are in a Covert to annoy residents, or in a Transport ships to travel with security.

But if Local is changed, you will be able to choice where you want stay, with any ship type you want, and never been displayed anywhere if you have a cloack. So a cloack will be mandatory to gank in every system any poor players who will rat there.

It is obvious, like many of the others consequences of a Local change if you add some compromises to avoid the situation I just wrote.

Indeed, whatever solutions would be found to compensate Local, it will have a bad counterpart. For exemple, the idea to have a POS module or anything who has to be anchored to get the old Local to blue players... It will have a cost like a Cyno Jammer or everything else, obviously, so only big alliances will be able to get it in the most part of his territory. This will add a big advantage to the defender against small gangs or solo predators who will not know easily if there is someone here. Also, depending of the implementation, for territory fight, the attacker can be blind... As the actual sovereignty system already didn't give advantage to the defender. In fact, if you want achieve a TOTAL immobility on 0.0 politic, you couldn't find a better idea than ask a delayed local.

Maybe the actual local system is not great, still it is the better one.

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