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Capt Retard
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Posted - 2010.08.16 14:31:00 -
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Is it legitimate to leave an Alliance just as your POS is being reinforced to allow you to repair it? And then renter the alliance once this has been done? Can be done obviously using the stront timer to get the POS out of reinforced once legitimately out of alliance.
This is with respect to a hisec war.
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Disastro
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Posted - 2010.08.16 18:06:00 -
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You should certainly petition this but I suspect the answer from CCP will be that you can war dec the corp now. If the corp reenters the alliance you will automatically get a weeks worth of war dec against the alliance anyway when they join. My suggestion is that if you dec the corp you pay up the war dec as far in advance as possible. I once did this against a corp which joined the Night's Dawn alliance and ended up getting like two and half free weeks of war against their alliance.
No, I personally think its BS. They should not be allowed to drop alliance in order to save their pos but ultimately you can put a vote in immediately when they drop alliance against their corp and begin shooting again soon.
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superteds
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Posted - 2010.08.16 18:08:00 -
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not sure what the ccp line on this is, but i think it goes; 'if they do it once then mmmmm ok, if they do it lots and lots then we smack them'
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xXThunder StruckXx
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Posted - 2010.08.17 11:16:00 -
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I seem to recall from a previous post that this was considered an exploit. Petition it. I have searched but cannot seem to retrieve the earlier post on this subject.
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Jean deVallette
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Posted - 2010.08.18 16:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Disastro
Y...
No, I personally think its BS. They should not be allowed to drop alliance in order to save their pos but ultimately you can put a vote in immediately when they drop alliance against their corp and begin shooting again soon.
Isn't that the problem though. We attack POS, they set to reinforce for 24+ hours, leave alliance - takes 24 hours. Rep up while were busy running a vote .. yadda yadda .. waiting 24 hours to become active. Voila - POS repped, and so on.
Its impossible to counter.
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Capt Retard
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Posted - 2010.08.18 18:05:00 -
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Ours havent quite done that yet - but we attack their POS tonight. If they did rejoin alliance then I assume its like some kind of ping pong vote/dec join/leave thing.
Stupid for sure.
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Disastro
Wrecking Shots
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.08.18 21:20:00 -
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Edited by: Disastro on 18/08/2010 21:22:21
Originally by: Jean deVallette
Originally by: Disastro
Y...
No, I personally think its BS. They should not be allowed to drop alliance in order to save their pos but ultimately you can put a vote in immediately when they drop alliance against their corp and begin shooting again soon.
Isn't that the problem though. We attack POS, they set to reinforce for 24+ hours, leave alliance - takes 24 hours. Rep up while were busy running a vote .. yadda yadda .. waiting 24 hours to become active. Voila - POS repped, and so on.
Its impossible to counter.
Yes. Well thats why i think its bs. And i think CCP will too but I cant be sure what their reaction will be. I suspect if it happens once they might let it slide or might not. If it happened more than once well.... Thats something else. Ultimately if you war dec them the second time (as a corp) they wont be able to evade by rejoining that alliance. However, they might join a better alliance which could potentially cause problems. Not likely tho.
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Likey meplz
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Posted - 2010.08.19 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: Capt ******
Is it legitimate to leave an Alliance just as your POS is being reinforced to allow you to repair it? And then renter the alliance once this has been done? Can be done obviously using the stront timer to get the POS out of reinforced once legitimately out of alliance.
This is with respect to a hisec war.
No.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=673134&page=2#39
Expect a "warning".
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Pharos Pharos
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Posted - 2010.08.20 04:35:00 -
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If you're dedicated it's quite possible to get a BS fleet to keep aggression going on the tower past the end of the wardec to destroy it once it's out of reinforced. Kind of ****ty depending on how long it's set for but they normally don't expect it.
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Jean deVallette
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Posted - 2010.08.20 11:41:00 -
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It appears it is no longer an exploit. Woop - gonna setup a new alliance and help out all those poor victims, small fee on join of course.
2010.08.20 10:58:00 GM Libra Luna
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Hi there, thanks for getting in touch.
I am afraid that at the present time, this is not actually considered to be an exploit. My sincerest apologies for the inconvenience.
Kind regards,
GM Libra Luna
EVE Online Customer Support.
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Goose99
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Posted - 2010.08.20 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jean deVallette
Edited by: Jean deVallette on 20/08/2010 13:21:19
It appears it is no longer an exploit. Woop - gonna setup a new alliance and help out all those poor victims, small fee on join of course.
This one is ongoing - so not a final ruling, being pushed up apparently - many thanks to Libra Luna.
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2010.08.20 10:58:00 GM Libra Luna
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Hi there, thanks for getting in touch.
I am afraid that at the present time, this is not actually considered to be an exploit. My sincerest apologies for the inconvenience.
Kind regards,
GM Libra Luna
EVE Online Customer Support.
Won't work, someone will dec your alliance at some point. Then your service will be unavailable.
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Ashley Sky
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.08.20 16:22:00 -
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I don't think it will work out for ya. I created an alliance to take advantage of this particular bug a while back and it didn't go so well, it sure caused a stir though. See this thread. :)
Of course as far as I know they haven't fixed it, so try it at your own risk.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=673134&page=2#39
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Ashley Sky
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.08.20 16:38:00 -
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I saved a whole bunch of threads on this topic for your and the GMs searching pleasure as it seems they forgot about it. I can see this is just as confusing as ever. :)
Imune Exploit - http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=669612
Free War Removal Service - http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=665774
i consider this cheating - http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=673134
CCP: War decs and alliances ? - http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=673504
War Thieves - iMune Empire - http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=673604
iMune - http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=673871
iMune is a ISK SINK!! - http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=674156
avoiding war decs game mechanic abuse consensual pvp - http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=673308
Joining a Alliance to avoid a War dec. - http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=675732&sid=860589123
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Slimy Worm
Cyan Wolf
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Posted - 2010.08.20 18:52:00 -
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Corp hopping is allowed but alliance hopping isn't.
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Jean deVallette
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Posted - 2010.08.20 23:32:00 -
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Confirming is an exploit.
GM double checked - all as expected.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2010.08.21 11:07:00 -
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of one declares war, I dont know a reason why one should not be able to avoid it by leaving or whatever. Shall they wd the corp then. All right IMO.
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