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Re Mmacs
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Posted - 2010.08.20 10:07:00 -
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It occurred to me recently that I have much in common with my various foes in this game. Any time the wheels of diplomacy turn and my group finds itself aligned with previous 'reds' against a new and even more nefariously ghey threat I find I have a lot in common with my previously sworn enemies. They are just broskis having a few brewskis and shooting someā well, ****ski I supposeā..... on vent etc.
THEY are just the same as ME.
Why do we as human beings and as the physical manifestation of our Lord Jesus Christs boundless love need to HATE someone else so badly. And why does mindlessly and reasonlessly hating the **** muncher on the other end of my pew pew sticks make internet spaceships so much better?
Why?
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Haram Haram
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Posted - 2010.08.20 10:21:00 -
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Stricktly out of motivastional purposes, I suppose. It's like Caneing the missus but than without the proper motivational emotion...it would end up feeling like work.
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Mytzso
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Posted - 2010.08.20 10:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Re Mmacs
Why do we as human beings and as the physical manifestation of our Lord Jesus Christs boundless love.. blah blah blah
Speak for yourself bro 
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OneTimeAt BannedSpank
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Posted - 2010.08.20 10:31:00 -
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Hello Re Mmacs, I hope you are well? I don't particularly hate anyone but I understand the importance of hates right to manifest itself in all forms. To show my understanding of such things I allow waves of unimaginable hatred to surge forth through big mean words and acts, content in the knowledge that it is just natures way and the karmic effect of a balanced emotional diet is what everybody needs.
It's never me, it's my behaviour.
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Aesheera
Amarr
Hello Kitty Goes Commando
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Posted - 2010.08.20 10:56:00 -
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I love my enemies with a passion. why?
I'm always looking for them and I just love the fact that I get to shoot them and smile at them afterwards.
No hate here 
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.08.20 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: OneTimeAt BannedSpank
It's never me, it's my behaviour.
This is true.
*puffs on pipe*
Also, OP, hatred stems forth from the need to preserve oneself and one's group, a strong behavioral mechanic empowering us to shut down our empathy and common sense to bash other people's skulls in without thinking twice. This has been very much needed for survival in times when resources were scarce and to make sure that YOUR particular genes will live on after you die.
It is a tool granted to us by millions of years of evolution. Being able to be violent has been a necessity for 99.99999% of the ride so far and since evolution is happening so slow in complex species this still compels us very much. Hundreds of thousands of books, movies and games with violent themes intended for consumer entertainment are evidence of this. (Not to mention real wars or violent acts being committed in every country and every day). Essentially we, as a species suddenly found ourselves in a new day and age of an advanced, peaceful society while we are still instilled with the behavioral tools of a caveman.
Aliens would probably deem us 'pathetic'.
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Gurgeh Murat
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Posted - 2010.08.20 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Re Mmacs
THEY are just the same as ME.
DUUUHHH
If you find yourself hating while PLAYING a GAME of internet spaceships, I suggest you step away from the keyboard and go socialize a bit.
Sheesh, some folk take this s**t waaay to seriously.
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Nathan Jameson
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Posted - 2010.08.20 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ran Khanon
Aliens would probably deem us 'pathetic'.
I fail to see why. We're the only species on the planet that has created a concept of an ideal greater than what we are now and spent the last few thousand years working towards achieving it. Our societies and cultures have taken slow but measurable strides in what is considered appropriate behavior to instill in future generations. I think that's telling.
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Re Mmacs
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Posted - 2010.08.20 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: Re Mmacs on 20/08/2010 11:33:36
Originally by: Gurgeh Murat
DUUUHHH
If you find yourself hating while PLAYING a GAME of internet spaceships, I suggest you step away from the keyboard and go socialize a bit.
Sheesh, some folk take this s**t waaay to seriously.[/quote
DUUUHHH
If you find yourself hating while LIVING YOUR LIFE, I suggest you step away from people and go play computer games a bit.
Sheesh, some folk take this rl s**t waaay to seriously.
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Mytzso
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Posted - 2010.08.20 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nathan Jameson
I fail to see why. We're the only species on the planet that has created a concept of an ideal greater than what we are now and spent the last few thousand years working towards achieving it. Our societies and cultures have taken slow but measurable strides in what is considered appropriate behavior to instill in future generations. I think that's telling.
Do you watch the news at all? Calling bull**** on your statement..
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Goldman Suchs
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Posted - 2010.08.20 11:36:00 -
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Why do we as human beings and as the physical manifestation of our Lord Jesus Christs boundless love need to HATE someone else so badly.
You would think that feasting on the blood of the undead once a week would promote peace and love, but apparently not.
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Nathan Jameson
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Posted - 2010.08.20 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mytzso
Do you watch the news at all? Calling bull**** on your statement..
You need to go back and read recorded history of civilizations four thousand years ago. The stuff we do today is kindergarten crap compared to the genocides habitually carried out back then.
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Mytzso
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Posted - 2010.08.20 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Nathan Jameson
You need to go back and read recorded history of civilizations four thousand years ago. The stuff we do today is kindergarten crap compared to the genocides habitually carried out back then.
Man, WW2 happened only 65 years ago.. 62 to 78 million dead.. Thousands of years ago that would probably total close to the whole population of the planet.. Wait for the next big one, then talk.. What progress please?
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Re Mmacs
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Posted - 2010.08.20 11:45:00 -
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Tbh unless FOX News has wall to wall coverage of it with a Panel of unbiased experts offering me intelligent comment i refuse to believe any of these 'atrocities' (with the obviosu exception of 9-11) ever actually occurred and are probably a left wing conspiracy.
Most likely started by the Devi.... I mean Obama himself.
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Nathan Jameson
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Posted - 2010.08.20 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: Nathan Jameson on 20/08/2010 11:50:04
Originally by: Mytzso
Man, WW2 happened only 65 years ago.. 62 to 78 million dead.. Thousands of years ago that would probably total close to the whole population of the planet.. Wait for the next big one, then talk.. What progress please?
The progress that the atrocity was universally decried and banded together against. Couple thousand years ago, it was simply the run of the mill. People were actually surprised when King Cyrus didn't eradicate the entire royal families of the countries he invaded.
The progress I'm pointing to is not that it never happens anymore; we're not there yet. It's that fewer and fewer countries have cultures that see this as status quo, and those that do are decried by the majority of the global community. Even in a single culture in a single century you can measure progress, as when a hundred years ago African Americans were barely seen as human. You can't tell me there hasn't been progress in ethics and social consciousness.
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Mytzso
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Posted - 2010.08.20 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nathan Jameson
You can't tell me there hasn't been progress in ethics and social consciousness.
True, and the body count is getting higher and higher. Must be good business for certain people, not least the ones who advocate for progress in ethics.
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Amanda Eidolo
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Posted - 2010.08.20 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Amanda Eidolo on 20/08/2010 11:56:30
Originally by: Nathan Jameson
...We're the only species on the planet that has created a concept of an ideal...
Don't use words if you don't know what they mean. Also, since we're the only sentient species on the planet, we're ipso facto the only species capable of doing what you were trying to say there in your special abstruse and roundabout way.
Originally by: Nathan Jameson
You need to go back and read recorded history of civilizations four thousand years ago. The stuff we do today is kindergarten crap compared to the genocides habitually carried out back then.
Also quite fallacious and misleading. I suggest you acquaint yourself with contemporary history, the human condition and basic worldliness.
To the OP:
Because it's easier to pod someone who you think is a ***got than it is to pod someone who you've known for years and are friends with?
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Nathan Jameson
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Posted - 2010.08.20 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Mytzso
True, and the body count is getting higher and higher. Must be good business for certain people, not least the ones who advocate for progress in ethics.
Agreed there.
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Ja'Dur Deathwalker
Minmatar
Rookies Academy
Rookie Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.20 12:00:00 -
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speak for yourself the broskis who wardecced us over and over again for the last 2 years do so just for the hell of it.
their current corp is called "Haters gonna hate" and they are round the amamake area.
and they wardec newbs cause they hate the CEO of the corp,
and if you read C&P just chill, and join the carebears and make money by mining, cause you didnt get any/many kill in the last 2 weeks....
Living in eve one day at a time,
Counting the days till the war ends,
Current count (365) and rising.
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Mytzso
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Posted - 2010.08.20 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Amanda Eidolo
we're ipso facto the only species capable of doing what you were trying to say there
Fully agreed, the question is why don't we. My take on things is that we don't because the way doesn't lie on the path of the least resistance.. We would have to put more effort in than we are willing to invest.
How about the population explosion? That too would be too difficult to control. Perhaps high body count is a blessing in disguise, ever so needed for the long term survival of our species?
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Amanda Eidolo
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2010.08.20 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Mytzso
Originally by: Amanda Eidolo
we're ipso facto the only species capable of doing what you were trying to say there
Fully agreed, the question is why don't we. My take on things is that we don't because the way doesn't lie on the path of the least resistance.. We would have to put more effort in than we are willing to invest.
How about the population explosion? That too would be too difficult to control. Perhaps high body count is a blessing in disguise, ever so needed for the long term survival of our species?
I assume that, as you say, as a race we'd need to deviate from the path of least resistance per se. From personal experience most people I know are at their core lazy, selfish and greedy.
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Mytzso
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Posted - 2010.08.20 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Amanda Eidolo
From personal experience most people I know are at their core lazy, selfish and greedy.
Me too, perhaps more lazy than selfish and greedy, but that too. At least when it comes to beer.
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Nathan Jameson
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Posted - 2010.08.20 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mytzso
Me too, perhaps more lazy than selfish and greedy, but that too. At least when it comes to beer.
I'd drink this beer but I'm too lazy to get the top off of it. So I'm going to whine about it on the internet instead.
Lousy capped beer.
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Mytzso
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Posted - 2010.08.20 12:15:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia
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Posted - 2010.08.20 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Jones
"Love is the only weapon." ****! Bull****! Martin Luther King died with love! Kennedy died talking about something he couldn't even understand, some kind of generalised love! And he never even backed it up..he was shot down! Bull****, ôLove is the only weapon with which I got to fight." I've got a hell of a lot of weapons to fight! I got my claws, I got cutlasses, I got guns, I got dynamite, I got a hell of a lot of fight! I'll fight! I'll fight! I will fight! I will fight! I will fight! I will fight! Like the fury in the Night! Hell yes we'll fight! Let the night roar with it! Let the night roar. They know we mean it! We'll kill 'em if they come.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.08.20 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Ran Khanon on 20/08/2010 13:13:13
Originally by: Mytzso
Originally by: Amanda Eidolo
we're ipso facto the only species capable of doing what you were trying to say there
Fully agreed, the question is why don't we. My take on things is that we don't because the way doesn't lie on the path of the least resistance.. We would have to put more effort in than we are willing to invest.
How about the population explosion? That too would be too difficult to control. Perhaps high body count is a blessing in disguise, ever so needed for the long term survival of our species?
*puffs pipe some more*
Hmm, yes ... I subscribe to a slight alternative of the same view. It's not so much the path of the least resistance but a question of apparent necessity. We are able to move mountains but only when it is REALLY OBVIOUS that it is necessary. (To name just one example, the Dutch Delta plan springs to mind which was only designed and executed after a major flood).
Next to that there is a general shortsightedness due to generation based ego-centrism; we are hardly able to act to problems with negative consequences lying beyond our own lifespans.
A threat like a big asteroid with our name on it is very apparent however, even if the impact would only occur in a hundred years, we would probably be willing enough to do something about it now in order to nudge it out of it's course and be really ****ing proud about it. But diffuse problems stemming forth from our own nature, such as over-population will be much, much harder to tackle. To avoid making a living hell hole out of this world we would have to take measures which go against our evolutionary burden of instincts and morals. Birth control, mandatory sterilization, being as responsible as possible with natural resources etc., either that or more violence and a higher vulnerability to natural disasters and disease. Pick the lesser of two evils but I sincerely doubt if humanity is able to pick the the first, 'unnatural' way.
*coughs violently*
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Riedle
Minmatar
Wayne's TV and Appliances
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Posted - 2010.08.20 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Mytzso
Originally by: Nathan Jameson
You can't tell me there hasn't been progress in ethics and social consciousness.
True, and the body count is getting higher and higher. Must be good business for certain people, not least the ones who advocate for progress in ethics.
Simply because the invention of machinery to make it more efficient.
Anyone who doesn't think that this generation of humans don't have it better than any other generation of humans before them needs to study history.
Are things perfect? Nope.
Are they better than at any point in human history - unquestionably.
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Mytzso
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Posted - 2010.08.20 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ran Khanon
*puffs pipe some more*
Well put, you have my vote.
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OneTimeAt BannedSpank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.08.20 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ran Khanon
A threat like a big asteroid with our name on it
Oh yeah? Well that'll show those griefing motherf*ckers some justice for killing all those exhumers.
Full spectrum dominance is the desire of those in power and it is not for the benefit of their people, only for the economy which is oiled by a nations consumption (of ever scarcer resources). People are naturally greedy and destructive. The sooner this planet enters another ice age the better. F*ck you all.
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Mytzso
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Posted - 2010.08.20 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Riedle
Are they better than at any point in human history - unquestionably.
Absolutely, so much so that there is no way but down, if we don't change.
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