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Charles Baker
Federal Mineral Acquisition VORTEX RISING
105
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Posted - 2012.07.26 17:11:00 -
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Gankers, i come to you today not as a highsec Publord, but as a sympathetic voice, i come here to ask you.
Why do you hate us for the Mining Barge changes?
Why do you Hate us for decisions which were outside of our hands?
You complain that your activity will no longer be profitable, but you are being short-sighted.
Who Pays your Hulk bounty?
Goons do!
Who decides how much that bounty is?
Goons do!
As referenced by the AXT OTEC Adverts 70% of a Hulks value comes from technetium, with hulks at roughly 280 million ISK thats 196 million ISK of Tech for every Hulk, and with all that money coming in the Goons only pay you a paltry 10 million per hulk? Rise up and demand more from your overlords, you really think they can't afford to make Hulk ganking profitable again? |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1443
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Posted - 2012.07.26 17:13:00 -
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Charles Baker wrote:Gankers, i come to you today not as a highsec Publord, but as a sympathetic voice, i come here to ask you.
Why do you hate us for the Mining Barge changes?
Why do you Hate us for decisions which were outside of our hands?
You complain that your activity will no longer be profitable, but you are being short-sighted.
Who Pays your Hulk bounty?
Goons do!
Who decides how much that bounty is?
Goons do!
As referenced by the AXT OTEC Adverts 70% of a Hulks value comes from technetium, with hulks at roughly 280 million ISK thats 196 million ISK of Tech for every Hulk, and with all that money coming in the Goons only pay you a paltry 10 million per hulk? Rise up and demand more from your overlords, you really think they can't afford to make Hulk ganking profitable again?
we would simply pay more but they nerfed tech~ a rogue goon |

Jed Bobby
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.26 17:13:00 -
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I finally made a forum poster* and there are no good threads today :/ |

Lilliana Stelles
Mindstar Technology Executive Outcomes
188
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Posted - 2012.07.26 17:16:00 -
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Herp derp herp derp.
That's what you sound like.
"Technetium' isn't a direct component of hulks. It has to be reacted... then you need a T1 hull, morphite, datacores, etc.
I think you're simplifying the manufacturing process here more than a little bit. Hulks are more than just moon goo. |

Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Cold Hand of Shadow
155
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Posted - 2012.07.26 17:32:00 -
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Lilliana Stelles wrote:Herp derp herp derp.
That's what you sound like.
"Technetium' isn't a direct component of hulks. It has to be reacted... then you need a T1 hull, morphite, datacores, etc.
I think you're simplifying the manufacturing process here more than a little bit. Hulks are more than just moon goo.
I thought you just dumped moon goo into a Hulk mold and let it cool... |

Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
207
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Posted - 2012.07.26 18:04:00 -
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Tah'ris Khlador wrote:Lilliana Stelles wrote:Herp derp herp derp.
That's what you sound like.
"Technetium' isn't a direct component of hulks. It has to be reacted... then you need a T1 hull, morphite, datacores, etc.
I think you're simplifying the manufacturing process here more than a little bit. Hulks are more than just moon goo. I thought you just dumped moon goo into a Hulk mold and let it cool...
So the way to fix this is to go after the moon goo harvesters?
I'm an American, English is my second language... |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1450
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Posted - 2012.07.26 18:12:00 -
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Bootleg Jack wrote:So the way to fix this is to go after the moon goo harvesters?
go for it a rogue goon |

Charles Baker
Federal Mineral Acquisition VORTEX RISING
105
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Posted - 2012.07.26 18:14:00 -
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Lilliana Stelles wrote:Herp derp herp derp.
That's what you sound like.
"Technetium' isn't a direct component of hulks. It has to be reacted... then you need a T1 hull, morphite, datacores, etc.
I think you're simplifying the manufacturing process here more than a little bit. Hulks are more than just moon goo.
Hey, it's OTEC who made those claims not me, now let us seem them back it up, Gankers i'd argue a fair price per hulk these days would be 50million what say you? |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
291
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Posted - 2012.07.26 18:17:00 -
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Charles Baker wrote:Gankers, i come to you today not as a highsec Publord, but as a sympathetic voice, i come here to ask you.
Why do you hate us for the Mining Barge changes?
Why do you Hate us for decisions which were outside of our hands?
You complain that your activity will no longer be profitable, but you are being short-sighted.
Who Pays your Hulk bounty?
Goons do!
Who decides how much that bounty is?
Goons do!
As referenced by the AXT OTEC Adverts 70% of a Hulks value comes from technetium, with hulks at roughly 280 million ISK thats 196 million ISK of Tech for every Hulk, and with all that money coming in the Goons only pay you a paltry 10 million per hulk? Rise up and demand more from your overlords, you really think they can't afford to make Hulk ganking profitable again?
YEAH! let's get those goons! [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG] |

Danfen Fenix
143
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Posted - 2012.07.26 18:45:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Charles Baker wrote:Gankers, i come to you today not as a highsec Publord, but as a sympathetic voice, i come here to ask you.
Why do you hate us for the Mining Barge changes?
Why do you Hate us for decisions which were outside of our hands?
You complain that your activity will no longer be profitable, but you are being short-sighted.
Who Pays your Hulk bounty?
Goons do!
Who decides how much that bounty is?
Goons do!
As referenced by the AXT OTEC Adverts 70% of a Hulks value comes from technetium, with hulks at roughly 280 million ISK thats 196 million ISK of Tech for every Hulk, and with all that money coming in the Goons only pay you a paltry 10 million per hulk? Rise up and demand more from your overlords, you really think they can't afford to make Hulk ganking profitable again? we would simply pay more but they nerfed tech~
To think only a couple of weeks ago the 'goonspiracy' threads ran rampant...  |

Rain King
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.07.26 18:52:00 -
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Jed Bobby wrote:I finally made a forum poster* and there are no good threads today :/
There haven't been good threads for over a year now. |

Lilliana Stelles
Mindstar Technology Executive Outcomes
190
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Posted - 2012.07.26 19:00:00 -
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Charles Baker wrote:Lilliana Stelles wrote:Herp derp herp derp.
That's what you sound like.
"Technetium' isn't a direct component of hulks. It has to be reacted... then you need a T1 hull, morphite, datacores, etc.
I think you're simplifying the manufacturing process here more than a little bit. Hulks are more than just moon goo. Hey, it's OTEC who made those claims not me, now let us seem them back it up, Gankers i'd argue a fair price per hulk these days would be 50million what say you?
Supply/Demand... goons will set the price at whatever price gankers will gank for. |

Charles Baker
Federal Mineral Acquisition VORTEX RISING
105
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Posted - 2012.07.26 19:00:00 -
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Lilliana Stelles wrote:Charles Baker wrote:Lilliana Stelles wrote:Herp derp herp derp.
That's what you sound like.
"Technetium' isn't a direct component of hulks. It has to be reacted... then you need a T1 hull, morphite, datacores, etc.
I think you're simplifying the manufacturing process here more than a little bit. Hulks are more than just moon goo. Hey, it's OTEC who made those claims not me, now let us seem them back it up, Gankers i'd argue a fair price per hulk these days would be 50million what say you? Supply/Demand... goons will set the price at whatever price gankers will gank for.
If they did we wouldn't have had the mass of ganker tears which i've been swimming in these past two days. |

Hongus Gwag
Hedion University Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.07.26 19:05:00 -
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Charles Baker wrote:Gankers, i come to you today not as a highsec Publord, but as a sympathetic voice, i come here to ask you.
Why do you hate us for the Mining Barge changes?
Why do you Hate us for decisions which were outside of our hands?
You complain that your activity will no longer be profitable, but you are being short-sighted.
Who Pays your Hulk bounty?
Goons do!
Who decides how much that bounty is?
Goons do!
As referenced by the AT:X OTEC Adverts 70% of a Hulks value comes from technetium, with hulks at roughly 280 million ISK thats 196 million ISK of Tech for every Hulk, and with all that money coming in the Goons only pay you a paltry 10 million per hulk? Rise up and demand more from your overlords, you really think they can't afford to make Hulk ganking profitable again?
In a surprsingly ironic turn of events the miners got buffed and the goons precious moon goo got ganked, mittani tears all round I think. |

Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp
125
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Posted - 2012.07.26 19:06:00 -
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my hulk has a nice thick layer of dust and cobwebs. thank you for the tears. it will make it all nice an shiny now |

BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
51
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Posted - 2012.07.26 19:18:00 -
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Lilliana Stelles wrote:Herp derp herp derp. That's what you sound like.
"Technetium' isn't a direct component of hulks. It has to be reacted... then you need a T1 hull, morphite, datacores, etc. I think you're simplifying the manufacturing process here more than a little bit. Hulks are more than just moon goo.
Come on now... He's not exactly denying those costs.
The basic idea of his post is correct. Regardless of the other costs involved, the ratio of direct profit versus the payout for the gank is very close to the claim, especially when you have a monopoly on the base resource and can control its price.
Regardless of what you think abut Hulkageddon/Miners/Gankers/Goon, this fact is undeniable.
Suicide gankers undervalue their salary. But maybe some of them dont care. As long as it covers costs of loosing a ship and dealing with security hits, it may be fine to them, Not everyone wants to make profit, or understand what real profit is. Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |

Patrakele
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2012.07.26 19:24:00 -
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I'm better than you - in game and in RL. |

Rakael Kateloda
State War Academy Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2012.07.26 20:17:00 -
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Chamomile tea calms the nerves. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1223
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Posted - 2012.07.26 20:18:00 -
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BoBoZoBo wrote:Suicide gankers undervalue their salary. But maybe some of them dont care. As long as it covers costs of loosing a ship and dealing with security hits, it may be fine to them, Not everyone wants to make profit, or understand what real profit is. The miners that I mine are free? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Patrakele
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
64
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Posted - 2012.07.26 20:31:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:BoBoZoBo wrote:Suicide gankers undervalue their salary. But maybe some of them dont care. As long as it covers costs of loosing a ship and dealing with security hits, it may be fine to them, Not everyone wants to make profit, or understand what real profit is. The miners that I mine are free?
Slave labor is..... never mind, not in the mood. |
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