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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.24 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 24/08/2010 14:53:43
 Originally by: Sully Tude
How does the ability to move a mouse at high precision reflect on a person's "hand eye coordination?"
Because you are coordinating things you see with your eyes, with movements of your hands. The same areas of the brain are used whether it's a steering wheel, gun, or mouse in your hand.
Anyway, this is derailing the thread, and for all i know he's a fine law enforcement officer who just doesn't like FPS games because they're often full of brats.
My Warmest Regards.
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Warezmy Carr
Extortion Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.08.24 15:06:00 -
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I am hoping to understand this game and the kind of mentalities it attracts.
Just like any other game, it attracts people with wildly varying mentalities. About the only common factor is that we all like spaceships.
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Why do you all play this game?
To have fun blowing up internet spaceships with my own internet spaceship.
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To derive pleasure ... from frustrating other players?
Yep, that's a small part of it.
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To learn how much you can make other people suffer?
Another small part of it.
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To learn how to make the world a better place?
Nope. I don't have enough influence to do that anyway.
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What do you sincerely hope to achieve by playing this game?
It's mostly just to have fun. At the moment, I would like to be the leader of a medium size corp centered around criminal activities. Other than that, I have no real goals.
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What do you do in game and why does it attract you?
Currently, my main activity is blowing up other peoples' hard-earned internet spaceships. The thrill of the hunt and excitement of battle drive me.
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Are the numbers of the economy side so nice?
I really only dabble in that. I keep one eye on the market and contracts. If I see a good deal or a way to make some quick ISK, I jump on it.
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Is sadistically oriented pleasure the highest form of pleasure you can conceive of?
Nope. Not by a long shot.
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Do you secretly want to conquer the universe and be worshiped by a kingdom of pixel pilots who by and large derive their pleasure from depravity, in a universe without virtue or justice on the other hand filled with heartlessness and cruelty?
Wow, somebody has a dim view of New Eden. To answer the question, no. I just want to be the leader of a group of like-minded pilots.
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So what do you actually do? Is it what you honestly want to do?
I break the 'laws' of New Eden by initiating unprovoked combat upon pilots who wish to avoid it. And yes, that's pretty much what I want to do at this time.
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I am a criminal, doing dirty deeds dirt cheap. If you have passed your trials and want to pursue a criminal career, I run a corp that you should look into joining. |
Baneken
Gallente
School of the Unseen
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Posted - 2010.08.24 15:15:00 -
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The reason why sandbox MMO's always turn in to a gangland simulation is simply the lack of deterrent ie. spending time at the gallows for killing someone ...
If the above could be achieved then we could finally have a true sandbox MMO game though the amount of moaning for getting "banned" for PvP would never end but playing the part of being the judge giving out the sentences could be fun. :P
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html |
Cassius Rex
Gallente
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.24 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
You're in law enforcement, and have poor hand eye coordination?
That should work out well.
Who said anything about poor hand/eye coordination?
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HillAnt
Amarr
scorpion explorers
Axiom Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.24 19:47:00 -
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ànow, in return, I want to know why you paint the game is such negative light? What's with the frustration, suffering, sadism, depravity, hearlessness and cruelty? Why are those the majority of the options you provide?
I provided mostly bad options because that is what I see this game is.
I've grown to dislike Eve because of the players it attracts who are usually not carebears and usually have not much of a desire to make the world a better more godly place. One mistake I made was to trust someone and because many eve players seek to use trusting well intended people I've grown to dislike the game: http://www.eve-inquirer.info/?tag=/money
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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.08.24 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: HillAnt
ànow, in return, I want to know why you paint the game is such negative light? What's with the frustration, suffering, sadism, depravity, hearlessness and cruelty? Why are those the majority of the options you provide?
I provided mostly bad options because that is what I see this game is.
I've grown to dislike Eve because of the players it attracts who are usually not carebears and usually have not much of a desire to make the world a better more godly place. One mistake I made was to trust someone and because many eve players seek to use trusting well intended people I've grown to dislike the game: http://www.eve-inquirer.info/?tag=/money
ROFL CRY MOAR THIS IS EVE IF YOU WANT SUNSHINE RAINBOW HAPPY LAND GO BACK TO WOW
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Nhi'Sidaris
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Posted - 2010.08.24 20:56:00 -
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Don't let the trolls on the forums detract you. My thought always was that boys who invest too much of their egos into the moving around of pixels are folks that aren't worth worrying about.
Eve is an AWESOME platform for project-minded people. In the past I have pirated, fought for alliances, specialized in covert operations, corporate espionage, mercenary work. I've done pos management, all manner of industrially related activities. Ninja mined 0.0 systems under the noses of Morsus Mhi and gotten away making a cool billion in a night, I've been griefed and pwned in empire, destroyed and lost carriers, designed multiple business plans for corps of all kinds of sizes, solo-inhabited w-space system back in the day when folks thought it was a stupid idea... The list goes on and on.
My point is that Eve truly is maybe the ONLY sandbox genre MMO. Quite literally, whatever you put your mind to, you can likely make an in-game (or sometimes out of game) profession out of. It's all about thinking and then building a project and seeing it through. If you feel you want to get into social interactions than glom onto someone else's project or attract people to yours.
Strangely, Eve has taught me a tremendous amount about real-world business practices. Except with fricken lasers and spaceships and hey, who doesn't get jazzed about running a business that deals with spaceships and fricken lasers? ;)
Enjoy, have fun!
Nhi.
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Syris Kyller
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Posted - 2010.08.24 21:02:00 -
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...cause I pulled wings off flies as a child 
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Lost Greybeard
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Posted - 2010.08.25 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Simply because of the way Eve is designed it tends to attract sadists, bullies and kiddies in need of lots of attention (see Goons). Been playing since '06 and no reasonable excuse has ever been provided as to why these types do what they do, so don't expect a logical answer as to why they do it.
BUT, there are also lots of players with good sportsmanship in the game. Don't let the forums fool you. The minority makes a hell of a lot more noise than your typical player.
The game is intended primarily as a pvp game. It's not really sadism or bullying to adopt a mindset of enjoying blowing stuff up and zapping people that try to blow your stuff up, it just means you fully understand what you've put your money into.
Though, that said, it would be nice if people in combat embraced the economic side of the PvP as well, and realized that doing things like podding people is going to result in fewer folk to play with. But a lot of people aren't that bright, so I guess that's OK too.
(I, and most of my corp, have adopted a "no podding" policy. We'll sometimes scramble a pod and fly around it in circles for a few minutes because we're silly people, but generally we'll eventually let it go because that's a lot of inconvenience to put someone through when we could be giving them the opportunity to come back for more.)
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.25 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lost Greybeard
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Simply because of the way Eve is designed it tends to attract sadists, bullies and kiddies in need of lots of attention (see Goons). Been playing since '06 and no reasonable excuse has ever been provided as to why these types do what they do, so don't expect a logical answer as to why they do it.
BUT, there are also lots of players with good sportsmanship in the game. Don't let the forums fool you. The minority makes a hell of a lot more noise than your typical player.
The game is intended primarily as a pvp game. It's not really sadism or bullying to adopt a mindset of enjoying blowing stuff up and zapping people that try to blow your stuff up, it just means you fully understand what you've put your money into.
Though, that said, it would be nice if people in combat embraced the economic side of the PvP as well, and realized that doing things like podding people is going to result in fewer folk to play with. But a lot of people aren't that bright, so I guess that's OK too.
(I, and most of my corp, have adopted a "no podding" policy. We'll sometimes scramble a pod and fly around it in circles for a few minutes because we're silly people, but generally we'll eventually let it go because that's a lot of inconvenience to put someone through when we could be giving them the opportunity to come back for more.)
Playing with the specific intent of making people "cry" and quit the game ("harvesting of tears") isn't PVP. In fact, that is the very definition of sadism. Eve (the game) is just a tool they use to realize their intent. I agree with you that PVP itself isn't "wrong". PVP is an intrinsic part of the game and can be fun. But there is a minority that uses it not as a game, but as a tool to inflict real-life suffering.
I'm not talking about sore losers that can't cope with an in-game loss. I'm talking about players that play with the specific intent in making others miserable because that is how they derive their pleasure.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
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Alain Kinsella
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.25 01:10:00 -
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I currently play to understand the Psychology (dare I say, 'Psychohistory') of Markets. It will be a valuable life skill when fiddling with my 401(k) now, as well as what I do with that money after I retire IRL. I also find it entertaining, in my own way (old Mark Russel and Lou Rukeyser fan).
I admit to other motives, but they tend to be very minor. The Market (and Eve's economy in general) has always been a main motivator.
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Ira Theos
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Posted - 2010.08.25 02:15:00 -
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Edited by: Ira Theos on 25/08/2010 02:17:47
Edited by: Ira Theos on 25/08/2010 02:16:42
Oh Come Now Gentlemen! Tell this lad why you have all really gathered here....
The True Motivation of Eve Pilots
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.08.25 02:18:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 25/08/2010 02:18:31
Originally by: Ira Theos
The True Motivation of Eve Pilots
Fixed your link.
EDIT: ah, you fixed it yourself too.
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Beginner's ISK making guide | Manufacturer's helper | All about reacting
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Ira Theos
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Posted - 2010.08.25 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 25/08/2010 02:18:00
Originally by: Ira Theos
The True Motivation of Eve Pilots
Fixed your link.
THANKS AKITA !
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Corporate Thief
Caldari
Code Triage
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Posted - 2010.08.25 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: HillAnt
ànow, in return, I want to know why you paint the game is such negative light? What's with the frustration, suffering, sadism, depravity, hearlessness and cruelty? Why are those the majority of the options you provide?
I provided mostly bad options because that is what I see this game is.
I've grown to dislike Eve because of the players it attracts who are usually not carebears and usually have not much of a desire to make the world a better more godly place. One mistake I made was to trust someone and because many eve players seek to use trusting well intended people I've grown to dislike the game: http://www.eve-inquirer.info/?tag=/money
1) Old event, why post now?
2) While only a small job, it did signal the beginning of Darth's career as a Code Triage Agent... Look on the bright side, you made somebody else happy and successful at great personal cost -- a true altruist!
3) Fixed your link
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Originally by: CCP Shadow
Off-topic posts dealing with sexual orientation have been removed. Please keep this discussion on-topic.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.08.25 05:36:00 -
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Originally by: Corporate Thief
3) Fixed your link
ehehehehe, awesome read. Welcome to the 0wnzone, Hillant. Stop being a sore loser and displacing your anger, it's not healthy m8.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.25 05:52:00 -
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I play this game to interact with people.
Some of it is mere talking, chatting, hanging out with etc.
Some of it is harvesting carebear tears, pirating, etc.
Some of it is commanding, being boss.. or not being boss. Depending on who im roleplaying with 
But mostly because I abhor interacting with people in that great sandbox 'real life'
Originally by: CCP Shadow
Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
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