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CCP Fallout	Posted - 2010.08.24 18:36:00 - [1] Tyrannis 1.0.4 brought us Stackless Python 2.7. porkbelly gives us the lowdown in his newest dev blog. Fallout Associate Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us

Ix Forres Caldari Righteous Chaps	Posted - 2010.08.24 18:44:00 - [2] So, Python. Okay. Knew that. Anything else to add? -- Ix Forres - 3rd Party Application Developer - EVE Metrics - accVIEW

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2010.08.24 19:06:00 - [3] Having trouble keeping up with all new blogs! \o/ loving it! Keep up the great work. /c Secure 3rd party service \| my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'

Dalmont Delantee Gallente Fidelis Discordia	Posted - 2010.08.24 19:08:00 - [4] He's a coder, they don't speak human much :P But, what benefits to reducing lag, increasing features etc does the new upgrade give? Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons
SheriffFruitfly Caldari	Posted - 2010.08.24 19:14:00 - [5] Let us know when this client patch comes, so we can get a 30 day skill running. :P __________________________________________________________ Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist

CCP Atlas	Posted - 2010.08.24 19:16:00 - [6] Originally by: SheriffFruitfly Let us know when this client patch comes, so we can get a 30 day skill running. :P This was released on August 18th.

Yusitpeo Meoir	Posted - 2010.08.24 19:30:00 - [7] Quote: Visual Basic 6 is the last of a line. There are no plans to continue with a Visual Basic 7 version. All Visual Basic development is now focused on the .NET version of Visual Basic. But we won't be going there any time soon. Moving from version 6 to .NET is a much bigger leap: There are widespread incompatibilities on the API level and there are substantial language changes too. And at this time there appears to be no immediate benefit to us in switching. I concur, .NET sucks a lot. Oh, wait, that's not what we're talking about. You do know that staying in the past will... leave you in the past?
RentableMuffin	Posted - 2010.08.24 19:30:00 - [8] Originally by: CCP Atlas Originally by: SheriffFruitfly Let us know when this client patch comes, so we can get a 30 day skill running. :P This was released on August 18th. dramatic music (oh and good job)
Ancy Denaries	Posted - 2010.08.24 19:30:00 - [9] Originally by: CCP Atlas Originally by: SheriffFruitfly Let us know when this client patch comes, so we can get a 30 day skill running. :P This was released on August 18th. This, ladies and gentlemen, is defined as "getting owned". ---- The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Victor Valka Caldari Endoxa Corporation	Posted - 2010.08.24 19:39:00 - [10] Originally by: Ix Forres Edited by: Ix Forres on 24/08/2010 19:11:33 So, Python. Okay. Knew that. Anything else to add? I like dev blogs, but only when they have content. I'd like to echo this sentiment -- This blog has very little added value. Only thing to take away from it, is that CCP won't be switching to Python 3.x any time SoonÖ. Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.

CCP Oveur	Posted - 2010.08.24 20:00:00 - [11] Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: Ix Forres Edited by: Ix Forres on 24/08/2010 19:11:33 So, Python. Okay. Knew that. Anything else to add? I like dev blogs, but only when they have content. I'd like to echo this sentiment -- This blog has very little added value. Only thing to take away from it, is that CCP won't be switching to Python 3.x any time SoonÖ. To be clearer. This is an improvement to our engineering infrastructure, it does have performance improvements we can capitalize on and it is already deployed without the world ending. Literally. It also references an obscure Icelandic band. I don't know what that was about but porkbelly does stuff like that. Regarding 3.X, going through that amount of work to upgrade without it giving us considerable performance increases (like when you'd compare to new initiatives like Iron Python and such) or more direct benefits (can become sentient), it doesn't look like it's worth it. Hope this helps. Executive Producer EVE Online

Thumbs McFriday	Posted - 2010.08.24 20:04:00 - [12] Wow! The true cause of all the lag has finally been revealed. All that folksy slow paced Randver has given birth to the unstoppable lag monster. Quick some one give me an address and I'll send CCP all my roommate's Dragon Force CD's. I'll never have to hear Through Fire and Flames again and Eve will be saved. Everyone wins!
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.08.24 20:09:00 - [13] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 24/08/2010 20:09:46 You mentioned that you're moving to Python 2.7 because of new library features... which ones interest you? Do you guys keep abreast of the bug fixes/performance improvements in the 2.7 line? Subscribe to python dev? Consider trying to steal Guido from Google? It's actually funny, but before I started playing Eve I was a heavy contributor to the Python core project. -Liang Ed: Also, the pwn up above is pretty hilarious. Nicely done! -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog

CCP Oveur	Posted - 2010.08.24 20:16:00 - [14] Edited by: CCP Oveur on 24/08/2010 20:16:13 Edited by: CCP Oveur on 24/08/2010 20:15:59 Originally by: Thumbs McFriday Wow! The true cause of all the lag has finally been revealed. All that folksy slow paced Randver has given birth to the unstoppable lag monster. Quick some one give me an address and I'll send CCP all my roommate's Dragon Force CD's. I'll never have to hear Through Fire and Flames again and Eve will be saved. Everyone wins! I would have expected something more akin to gabber or jumpstyle if we just wanted to bring up the pace, although I feel dubstep is probably closer to the consistent pace we want to be at without feeling tortured and distorted. I also happen to like dubstep. Executive Producer EVE Online

Marchocias Silent Ninja's	Posted - 2010.08.24 21:14:00 - [15] Originally by: CCP Oveur I would have expected something more akin to gabber or jumpstyle if we just wanted to bring up the pace, although I feel dubstep is probably closer to the consistent pace we want to be at without feeling tortured and distorted. I also happen to like dubstep. Any chance we could get a decent bounty hunting system developed to the dulcit tones of some drillcore? ---- I belong to Silent Ninja (Hopefully that should cover it).
Ix Forres Caldari Righteous Chaps	Posted - 2010.08.24 22:26:00 - [16] Originally by: CCP Oveur I also happen to like dubstep. Ye gods, it's worse than we thought! Seriously though, always good to hear sensible tech moves. Out of curiosity, is any manpower being spent on a JIT compiler for Stackless? I've heard talk thrown around here and there. -- Ix Forres - 3rd Party Application Developer - EVE Metrics - accVIEW
Shamblingform Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.24 22:35:00 - [17] Easily first page again... German Giggles R
Jacob Stirling Gallente Eve Dragons Chaos Hegemony	Posted - 2010.08.24 22:54:00 - [18] Newbie trainee at current day programming has request for clarification: "There is a lot of C code that needs recompiling." C or C++? I ask because from what I've read, C++ is the industry standard and that's what I'm focusing on. C#, as I understand it, is better suited for porting to consoles. But C++ is the computer standard, though, of course, others are used. But I would have thought standard C would be considered ancient by now. Thought I might look at Python as well.
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe	Posted - 2010.08.24 23:12:00 - [19] Originally by: Liang Nuren It's actually funny, but before I started playing Eve I was a heavy contributor to the Python core project. So...you're to blame for the bugs ? Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
Kaksakamasami	Posted - 2010.08.24 23:43:00 - [20] Originally by: Jacob Stirling Newbie trainee at current day programming has request for clarification: "There is a lot of C code that needs recompiling." C or C++? I ask because from what I've read, C++ is the industry standard and that's what I'm focusing on. C#, as I understand it, is better suited for porting to consoles. But C++ is the computer standard, though, of course, others are used. But I would have thought standard C would be considered ancient by now. Thought I might look at Python as well. C is essentially subset of C++. It's really just C++ without all the cool and complicated stuff. You really can't learn C++ without accidentally learning C. Oh, and C is used in ****load of places where you need raw performance without all this fancy stuff C++ brings.
cBOLTSON Reaction Theory Talos Coalition	Posted - 2010.08.25 00:00:00 - [21] Originally by: CCP Oveur Edited by: CCP Oveur on 24/08/2010 20:16:13 Edited by: CCP Oveur on 24/08/2010 20:15:59 Originally by: Thumbs McFriday Wow! The true cause of all the lag has finally been revealed. All that folksy slow paced Randver has given birth to the unstoppable lag monster. Quick some one give me an address and I'll send CCP all my roommate's Dragon Force CD's. I'll never have to hear Through Fire and Flames again and Eve will be saved. Everyone wins! I would have expected something more akin to gabber or jumpstyle if we just wanted to bring up the pace, although I feel dubstep is probably closer to the consistent pace we want to be at without feeling tortured and distorted. I also happen to like dubstep. CCP Dude likes Dubstep? Good man! Finally some REAL music ;-) Nothing like a bit of "WUBBB WUBBBB WUUUUBBBB" whislt pvping (-_o)
Thumbs McFriday	Posted - 2010.08.25 00:07:00 - [22] Originally by: CCP Oveur I would have expected something more akin to gabber or jumpstyle if we just wanted to bring up the pace, although I feel dubstep is probably closer to the consistent pace we want to be at without feeling tortured and distorted. I also happen to like dubstep. Thanks Oveur, I spent all afternoon listening to all kinds of new cool music. It appears you got the tunes way under control and things are coming along nicely with lag fixes. I suppose, you won't be needing my roommate's CD collection? What a shame. At least now I can drown him out with this newly discovered speedcore gabber. BTW, these dev blog posts are great.
Aranial Gallente Empyrean Warriors Lux Caelestia	Posted - 2010.08.25 00:46:00 - [23] ok lol Brain overload with trying to keep up with these. Keep up the excellent communication though :D.
Trebor Whettam	Posted - 2010.08.25 00:59:00 - [24] Edited by: Trebor Whettam on 25/08/2010 01:00:32 Originally by: Kaksakamasami Originally by: Jacob Stirling Newbie trainee at current day programming has request for clarification: "There is a lot of C code that needs recompiling." C or C++? I ask because from what I've read, C++ is the industry standard and that's what I'm focusing on. C#, as I understand it, is better suited for porting to consoles. But C++ is the computer standard, though, of course, others are used. But I would have thought standard C would be considered ancient by now. Thought I might look at Python as well. C is essentially subset of C++. It's really just C++ without all the cool and complicated stuff. You really can't learn C++ without accidentally learning C. Oh, and C is used in ****load of places where you need raw performance without all this fancy stuff C++ brings. C is a subset of C++ only in the literal sense. Ninety-nine percent of learning a programming language is learning the style paradigm that programs in the given language are written. C++ is object oriented, and C is not, so nontrivial programs are structured very differently in each language. tl;dr: Learn both languages. Also take a look at some Functional and Declarative programs. Expand the mind.
Andrevv ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.25 04:38:00 - [25] Do you ever wish you could go back to 2000 you and smack them over the head, "BEWARE THE GIL! BEWARE!!"
Dennison Spade	Posted - 2010.08.25 05:21:00 - [26] I'm waiting for a blog post.. "WE FIXED THE LAG, NO MORE PROBLEMS"... these posts are are written in geekese, it's good if you speak developer geek, but if you don't it's like reading wallpaper.. I've never understood the fascination with "programming" languages.. I can't wait to the day when all this crap is transparent to us and we just get good functionality. Who cares what you write you code in, all I care about is that it works... one day.
Peter Tjordenskiold The Executives IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.25 05:41:00 - [27] Thanks for this blog!
Freyya Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group	Posted - 2010.08.25 06:53:00 - [28] I already posted this question in the previous devblog comments but this place seems to be more suited for it since it is about the subject in whole; As to the limits this GIL thingy apparantly impose; How far are you tied down by the design fundementals of Python/stackless or not in regards to multiple cores? Are you pretty much tied to the definitions it provides or can you rewrite the core code parts of Python to stomp away the stupid things it makes you do? As to avoiding the whole spaghetti workarounds and such... Remember; I'm not afraid to implement the mental image of a certain exec prod. wearing a certain diabolical fabric used to conceal (or show in this case) the appropriate body parts. I might even step it up a notch or 2.. Part of the question was already answered with the bit as to having to port some in-house developped adjustments of the code i guess, but i'm still wondering about the hard limits this apparantly "ancient" way of coding processes apply. Are there any similar languages on the horizon that allow you to do porting with minimal adjustments to the code already there but still give you massive improvements as to the current and future way of coding? Or is it building on top of Python 2.7 yourself from here on in since 3.0 doesn't give you enough benefits? ___________ NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
Paknac Queltel Coffee Muggers HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.08.25 07:30:00 - [29] Originally by: Jacob Stirling Newbie trainee at current day programming has request for clarification: "There is a lot of C code that needs recompiling." C or C++? I ask because from what I've read, C++ is the industry standard and that's what I'm focusing on. C#, as I understand it, is better suited for porting to consoles. But C++ is the computer standard, though, of course, others are used. But I would have thought standard C would be considered ancient by now. Thought I might look at Python as well. I prefer to think of C++ as C with a side order of pain. As for C#, it's a very decent high-level language. Somewhat annoying if you need to interface with unmanaged code though. Sooner or later you'll run into the pain that is using pointers in C#. I'm still looking for a language that combines the best of C and C# without adding the worst of C++... I would go with the suggestion elsewhere in this thread to learn both C and C++ and their ways of doing things, and go further and suggest you do the same for any language that you think you may like. The more you know, the less you're restricted by a single toolset and way of thinking. And yes, look at Python. You won't regret it. - Paknac Queltel
Claire Voyant	Posted - 2010.08.25 07:34:00 - [30] Regarding the Python GIL issue. It seems to me that you cold run small scale tests (10-100 users/bots on singularity) with logging similar to what David Beazley presented in his video to see if you get excessive thrashing and/or if multi-core processors are an issue. It might at least point you in the right direction. Sometimes hitting things with a small hammer and analyzing them under a microscope is preferable to beating them to a mangled mess with a sledgehammer.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.25 09:02:00 - [31] Note that GIL is less of an issue in stackless, since the switching between tasklets is handled by the interpreter instead of the kernel.
wr3cks Reliables Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.08.25 11:17:00 - [32] You're boring us. I'm writing this post using FireFox on Windows 7. I think Windows 7 performed significantly better than Vista. I will post a blog entry of several pages on the subject tomorrow. Come Thursday, I will post a hardware blog to discuss the PC from which I am making this post, being sure to elaborate upon the difference between DDR2 and DDR3 RAM. I'll also tell you which way I point my fan (spoiler: out). See you at the mass test, hope it works better.
Freyya Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group	Posted - 2010.08.25 11:34:00 - [33] Originally by: wr3cks You're boring me. I'm writing this post using FireFox on Windows 7. I think Windows 7 performed significantly better than Vista. I will post a blog entry of several pages on the subject tomorrow. Come Thursday, I will post a hardware blog to discuss the PC from which I am making this post, being sure to elaborate upon the difference between DDR2 and DDR3 RAM. I'll also tell you which way I point my fan (spoiler: out). See you at the mass test, hope it works better. Fixed it for you... ___________ NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
0oO0oOoOo0o	Posted - 2010.08.25 11:45:00 - [34] Thanks for all that blogs, but the only thing I need to know is: Will Eve lag ? Or not ?
Paknac Queltel Coffee Muggers HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.08.25 13:20:00 - [35] Originally by: 0oO0oOoOo0o Thanks for all that blogs, but the only thing I need to know is: Will Eve lag ? Or not ? Software will always lag. The real question is, when EVE lags less, how many more people will you bring? - Paknac Queltel
Downer Demonic	Posted - 2010.08.25 14:05:00 - [36] So what with 'corification' does this mean Dust is written in Python 2.7 ?
yani dumyat Minmatar Black Storm Cartel The Orca Syndicate	Posted - 2010.08.25 16:22:00 - [37] How many pythons does it take to fix rockets? All these techy blogs are great but whenever a weapons system or ship class is considered borked it takes two or more years for CCP to do any rebalancing (Think lasers, then projectiles, rockets have been borked for well over a year now). I'll say that again - TWO YEARS TO DRAG THE REBALANCING TEAM OUT OF THE PUB AND MAKE THEM DO SOME WORK! When are we going to see blogs about fixing fleet warfare, the UI, balance issues, wormhole scanner spam and other issues that affect large chunks of the playerbase? _______ Trolls and Tribulations A story of eve, trolls, world domination and dogfighting against starlings in a tiny dramiel.

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2010.08.25 19:28:00 - [38] Originally by: Jacob Stirling Newbie trainee at current day programming has request for clarification: "There is a lot of C code that needs recompiling." C or C++? I ask because from what I've read, C++ is the industry standard and that's what I'm focusing on. C#, as I understand it, is better suited for porting to consoles. But C++ is the computer standard, though, of course, others are used. But I would have thought standard C would be considered ancient by now. Thought I might look at Python as well. Stackless Python is written in C and Python. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games


CCP Explorer	Posted - 2010.08.25 19:31:00 - [39] Originally by: Downer Demonic So what with 'corification' does this mean Dust is written in Python 2.7 ? Parts of DUST 514 will be written in Stackless Python. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Enthral	Posted - 2010.08.25 20:54:00 - [40] Originally by: Paknac Queltel I'm still looking for a language that combines the best of C and C# without adding the worst of C++... We call that "Objective-C".
Cryuji Eterna Minmatar The New Order.	Posted - 2010.08.25 20:56:00 - [41] Originally by: Jacob Stirling Newbie trainee at current day programming has request for clarification: "There is a lot of C code that needs recompiling." C or C++? I ask because from what I've read, C++ is the industry standard and that's what I'm focusing on. C#, as I understand it, is better suited for porting to consoles. But C++ is the computer standard, though, of course, others are used. But I would have thought standard C would be considered ancient by now. Thought I might look at Python as well. As a note, C may be ancient but it is still very much in use today - I believe it is the language of choice when programming embedded systems. He who wanders, wanders for all eternity.
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.08.25 21:45:00 - [42] Originally by: Jacob Stirling Newbie trainee at current day programming has request for clarification: "There is a lot of C code that needs recompiling." C or C++? If you think focusing on C++ over C is a 'choice', then you haven't really understood C++. Knowing the idioms of C is crucial if you want to be a good C++ programmer as the latter is a superset of the former. (Or rather share a common core)
wr3cks Reliables Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.08.25 22:09:00 - [43] Originally by: Freyya Originally by: wr3cks You're boring me. I'm writing this post using FireFox on Windows 7. I think Windows 7 performed significantly better than Vista. I will post a blog entry of several pages on the subject tomorrow. Come Thursday, I will post a hardware blog to discuss the PC from which I am making this post, being sure to elaborate upon the difference between DDR2 and DDR3 RAM. I'll also tell you which way I point my fan (spoiler: out). See you at the mass test, hope it works better. Fixed it for you... Yes, because I'm the only person who thinks these dev blogs are getting more and more tendentious. Still waiting to hear on content priorities....
Ryel Theon Take A Wish Foundation Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2010.08.26 01:21:00 - [44] Originally by: Dennison Spade I'm waiting for a blog post.. "WE FIXED THE LAG, NO MORE PROBLEMS"... these posts are are written in geekese, it's good if you speak developer geek, but if you don't it's like reading wallpaper.. I've never understood the fascination with "programming" languages.. I can't wait to the day when all this crap is transparent to us and we just get good functionality. Who cares what you write you code in, all I care about is that it works... one day. You're playing an Internet Spaceships Game that is sometimes not-so-jokingly referred to as Spreadsheets Online and you're complaining about dev blogs being too geeky? Got it.
Paknac Queltel Coffee Muggers HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.08.26 06:12:00 - [45] Edited by: Paknac Queltel on 26/08/2010 06:12:56 Originally by: wr3cks Yes, because I'm the only person who thinks these dev blogs are getting more and more tendentious. Still waiting to hear on content priorities.... The dev blogs are getting biased? Are we reading the same dev blogs? Specifically, how is this blog on upgrading to a new and fresh version of Python, and the problems it entailed, biased? Originally by: Enthral Originally by: Paknac Queltel I'm still looking for a language that combines the best of C and C# without adding the worst of C++... We call that "Objective-C". [Paknac disagree]; [Paknac breakDownSobbing]; EDIT: Whoops, forgot a semicolon. - Paknac Queltel
Wyke Mossari Gallente Staner Industries	Posted - 2010.08.26 09:25:00 - [46] Have you done any comparative performance testing on the two versions? The Eve client definitely seems sluggish since the this patch.
Taudia Gallente Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.08.26 09:53:00 - [47] Edited by: Taudia on 26/08/2010 09:54:41 Originally by: Wyke Mossari Have you done any comparative performance testing on the two versions? The Eve client definitely seems sluggish since the this patch. Maybe if you read the blog you would see the answer stated clearly right there... Quote: We run an extensive set of regression tests to ensure that everything works as before, and a full performance benchmark suite to verify that performance does not degrade.
Yeay Fritg Caldari Confrerie de Kaedri Cluster Of Rebirth	Posted - 2010.08.26 12:52:00 - [48] Sorry, But CCP I just want a BackLog Bug Dev Blog ! Do you read the forums or will you moderate all our quality request if not in line with your marketing plan ? Yeay
Boris Petroshevski	Posted - 2010.08.26 16:35:00 - [49] Edited by: Boris Petroshevski on 26/08/2010 16:35:42 I like the blogs... they may not say anything like "EUREKA!!! ITS ALL FIXED" but atleast i know youre over there doing stuffs =) I used to think the CCP gods were a magical construct made up by the leadership of NC, IT, SC, PL, Russians, and Chribba to keep everyone else in check so we couldnt become to powerful (wild imagination? or truth fact?). OK sure I had seen one in D-G and one in Y-MP but that doesnt mean they were real... I couldnt lock them and they left without a trace. Also anything that powerful would atleast be on one carrier killmail right? I am curious though as someone else asked. Dust 514 is obviously sucking up some resources of CCP and had this very very cool video that came out and a small show off presentation, however, there hasnt been anything else I have seen about it? Is there anymore being released? I hate that its taking some programers off eve but the idea does sound cool and I am interested as to how it is coming along. Is there anymore information that has been posted or can be posted about it? I learned to spell on CAOD
A'Krien	Posted - 2010.08.27 06:04:00 - [50] Originally by: wr3cks Edited by: wr3cks on 26/08/2010 06:45:44 Originally by: Freyya Originally by: wr3cks You're boring me. I'm writing this post using FireFox on Windows 7. I think Windows 7 performed significantly better than Vista. I will post a blog entry of several pages on the subject tomorrow. Come Thursday, I will post a hardware blog to discuss the PC from which I am making this post, being sure to elaborate upon the difference between DDR2 and DDR3 RAM. I'll also tell you which way I point my fan (spoiler: out). See you at the mass test, hope it works better. Fixed it for you... Yes, because I'm the only person who thinks these dev blogs are getting more and more tangential and irrelevant. Still waiting to hear on content priorities.... Look, if you guys want to post a dev blog every time you take a dump so people can talk about how brown it is and how recently you appear to have eaten corn, knock yourselves out. It doesn't make the silence on overall priorities and content any less loud. edit:choice of adjective, colorful metaphor Yes and they are fixing and releasing new content using the language they built the game on. It's VERY interesting to people with knowledge in programming languages because language defines the turn around time for dev efforts. This kind of blog will take... 30 minutes to write. It's not going to be a massive task that will stop development for all the developers employed by CCP working on EVE. If you don't like these kind of information, DON'T READ IT.
Khorr Dark	Posted - 2010.08.27 10:47:00 - [51] Originally by: Dennison Spade these posts are are written in geekese, it's good if you speak developer geek Educational video Seriously, if you don't care for the tech, then why the hell are you reading developer blogs?

CCP porkbelly	Posted - 2010.08.28 01:02:00 - [52] Originally by: Jacob Stirling Newbie trainee at current day programming has request for clarification: "There is a lot of C code that needs recompiling." C or C++? I use "C" as a generic term here, much as when I hoover my xeroxes. We have all kinds of "C" code: C, C++, even assembly code. It is nasty business, but even the most noble and beautiful princess must touch the ground with her feet. What it is!

Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.08.28 07:26:00 - [53] Edited by: Rakshasa Taisab on 28/08/2010 07:26:22 Originally by: Paknac Queltel Originally by: Enthral Originally by: Paknac Queltel I'm still looking for a language that combines the best of C and C# without adding the worst of C++... We call that "Objective-C". [Paknac disagree]; [Paknac breakDownSobbing]; I hope you're not going to jump off a bridge if I tell you I program using Objectice-C++ and love it.
ddooxx	Posted - 2010.09.14 00:19:00 - [54] Thank you porkbelly! Originally by: Khorr Dark Seriously, if you don't care for the tech, then why the hell are you reading developer blogs? QFT^^^ Don't let some of the posters get to you; contemplating the employment salary and prospect of a programmer versus some of the above posters should provide some satisfaction. Originally by: Freyya Edited by: Freyya on 25/08/2010 07:07:00How far are you tied down by the design fundementals of Python/stackless or not in regards to multiple cores? Are you pretty much tied to the definitions it provides or can you rewrite the core code parts of Python to stomp away the stupid things it makes you do? As to avoiding the whole spaghetti workarounds and such... That is always the biggest question I have. My computers are coming with more and more processors, cores and hyperthreads running at a clock speed that is increasing slowly. Single core performance is growing, but not nearly by Moore's Law. A lot of software vendors relied on that (Bill Gates strategy was that "hardware was free") I just think that EVE will be using a smaller and smaller percentage of the computing power of my machines. Does 2.7 address this? 3.2? Can you share your thoughts on what is the current path towards being able to leverage several cores?

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