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alittlebirdy	Posted - 2010.08.25 04:00:00 - [31] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 25/08/2010 02:06:11 Originally by: Daniel Cordova If I were a merc/PVP corp I'd make a habit of checking boards like that to see what the marks are capable of flying and how well. As if checking battleclinic or other killboards wouldn't give you even better info (from certain viewpoints anyway). I suppose there is some merit in NOT using such a site if you PvP on a regular basis (although the effectiveness of not using it is pretty much on par or even worse than the effectiveness of using limited API keys to identify spies), but apparently a big chunk of the population (three quarters or so) doesn't get engaged in PvP at all (according to the QEN). That wouldn't fully explain the lowball 3% participation. LOL what are you bored or something need to keep making stupid threads to show off your stupidity. You ever like, do a war dec, look into moving to an area, joining an alliance (granted this is on a smaller scale than 0.0) ya let everyone know your skills, come on guys join up! When I want to wardec you, can flip ya, etc etc IÆll know your skills, and everything 8-) This makes looking up killboard info look like childÆs place. You are crying about local being too much of an intel tool but you want everyone to stick their skills on line for everyone else to see? Rofl are you permahigh? O ya and to gank hulks, lol, be nice to know their shield skills... etc before the gank. Same for ninjaÆs, they can see how good a tank the target may have, isk for ransomsà list goes on and onà
Bhattran	Posted - 2010.08.25 04:07:00 - [32] Edited by: Bhattran on 25/08/2010 04:11:15 I'm not selling my characters, showing off any of my skills or otherwise bragging about my SP as there isn't anything to brag about being just a bit more than a year old, so there isn't any point for me. Evemon shows all my skills nice and pretty as do a couple other applications I use for other purposes that have skills and other things as additional services/information they provide. Not having any need/desire to show my characters I don't see anything that one would add to showing your character that would motivate me to start showing my character. EDITED TO ADD: I enjoy statistics but I'm not really interested in joining another site, making another account, just to provide data that really won't 'benefit' anyone except in a curiosity sense. -------------------------------------------------------------- Fanboys would make great cult members.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.08.25 04:14:00 - [33] because im annoyed at the lack of - in recent websites. eveonline.com, eveboard.com, etc. Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.08.25 04:28:00 - [34] I want graphs for the following: - My sec status. You can get this from killmails, if nowhere else. I really miss seeing graphs this on Griefwatch and nobody else thinks it's important to have - My wallet balance - My Buy/Sell order totals - Graphs with the anonymous statistics for the above and such. Seeing my rank climb for drones for example would be pretty awesome. - Anonymous statistics along racial boundaries - "57% of people have Heavy Missile Launcher Spec 4 or greater" Also, I am actually using it. Anonymously. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.08.25 04:30:00 - [35] Edited by: Akita T on 25/08/2010 04:35:57 Originally by: alittlebirdy [...snip...]LOL[...]This makes looking up killboard info look like childÆs place.[...snip...] Two-part challenge for you... 1. Using only eveboard.com, where everything is set visible on my character, tell me what exactly do expect me to be flying and how any of that would give you some advantage over me. 2. Explain how you would be harmed if you activated eveboard for your own character, but with EVERYTHING HIDDEN, so you'd just be using the anonymous statistics (or telling the password to friends you want to be able to check on you). EXAMPLE: see http://eveboard.com/pilot/Liang_Nuren _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Simply Human	Posted - 2010.08.25 04:40:00 - [36] I don't use it because I'll never have 130 million skill points, so there's no point trying to compete.
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.08.25 04:42:00 - [37] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 25/08/2010 04:35:57 Originally by: alittlebirdy [...snip...]LOL[...]This makes looking up killboard info look like childÆs place.[...snip...] Two-part challenge for you... 1. Using only eveboard.com, where everything is set visible on my character, tell me what exactly do expect me to be flying and how any of that would give you some advantage over me. 2. Explain how you would be harmed if you activated eveboard for your own character, but with EVERYTHING HIDDEN, so you'd just be using the anonymous statistics (or telling the password to friends you want to be able to check on you). EXAMPLE: see http://eveboard.com/pilot/Liang_Nuren It's funny, but even if it were totally visible, they'd have a lot of trouble knowing what I'm flying today. A curse? Geddon? Hype? Brutix? Myrm? Vexor? Arazu? Pilgrim? Proteus? Tengu? Drake? Rokh? Mega? Domi? Mach? Bhaalgorn? Vindicator? Rattlesnake? Cynabal? Dramiel? Hound? -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
AngusThermo	Posted - 2010.08.25 04:44:00 - [38] You are dooing this all wrong. Why would i post my API on a third party site ever?
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.08.25 04:48:00 - [39] Edited by: Akita T on 25/08/2010 04:51:13 Originally by: AngusThermo You are dooing this all wrong. Why would i post my API on a third party site ever? For similar reasons you would ever give your limited API key to anybody. If you never give your limited API key to anybody, fair enough, yet again, I guess. Also, it's Chribba, not a random nobody. And you can always add password protection to your data, so for people you don't want to see it, they would have a very hard time getting it. For friends you do want to see that info however, giving them a link and password is easier than having them add your character in EVEMon. It's one thing to not want to use it because you don't NEED it, it's another thing to not use it because you're AFRAID of it. _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.08.25 04:53:00 - [40] Edited by: Vaal Erit on 25/08/2010 04:53:21 Because: A) I'm lazy B) I don't get anything C) It is making Akita T mad (apparently) - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant
Anthal The Warp Squad Deadly Unknown	Posted - 2010.08.25 04:55:00 - [41] PVP Intel is the big one. Knowing that I can fly a Proteus is vastly different then knowing that I have 5 in all subsystems, high thermodynamics/strategic cruiser skill, maxed/high gunnery skills, high armor skills, and excellent cap/ewar skills. Another ship related point: Knowing I fly an arazu is one thing, knowing I fly an arazu with Recon 5 is completely different. Each level of the Recon skill is an additional 6km on a Domination point. As someone who lives in wormhole space, knowing exactly how well people can fly their current ship lets you pick your battles more effectively. Especially if they don't know that you are there, since there is no local.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.08.25 05:01:00 - [42] Originally by: Vaal Erit Because: A) I'm lazy Perfectly valid reason ! Quote: B) I don't get anything Fair enough (again). Quote: C) It is making Akita T mad (apparently) Fakenerdrageeeee! Originally by: Anthal PVP Intel is the big one. Knowing that I can fly a Proteus is vastly different then knowing that I have 5 in all subsystems, high thermodynamics/strategic cruiser skill, maxed/high gunnery skills, high armor skills, and excellent cap/ewar skills. Another ship related point: Knowing I fly an arazu is one thing, knowing I fly an arazu with Recon 5 is completely different. Each level of the Recon skill is an additional 6km on a Domination point. As someone who lives in wormhole space, knowing exactly how well people can fly their current ship lets you pick your battles more effectively. Especially if they don't know that you are there, since there is no local. All of which becomes irrelevant if you password-protect your character, so you only 1) participate in anonymous statistics and 2) give the pass to people you'd normally give the API key to instead. _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.08.25 05:08:00 - [43] Originally by: Anthal As someone who lives in wormhole space, knowing exactly how well people can fly their current ship lets you pick your battles more effectively. Especially if they don't know that you are there, since there is no local. If you ever see me, assume I have all 5s for my ship and a full set of titans gang boosting me. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.08.25 05:10:00 - [44] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Anthal As someone who lives in wormhole space, knowing exactly how well people can fly their current ship lets you pick your battles more effectively. Especially if they don't know that you are there, since there is no local. If you ever see me, assume I have all 5s for my ship and a full set of titans gang boosting me. -Liang but... you can only have 3 boosters in any given fleet? Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.08.25 05:13:00 - [45] Akita, the only thing that will convince people to give their API key to Chribba (and that's what this is) is for Eveboard to have some "killer feature". Hosting a personal killboard would be a good start. ;-) -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.08.25 05:17:00 - [46] Originally by: Liang Nuren Hosting a personal killboard would be a good start. Well, that would need full API keys, which would probably put a lot more people off. Also, according to the latest QEN, people that actively engage in PvP are nowhere near the majority of EVE players (and the rest, what would they need a killboard for). Anyway, probably an interesting idea. Keep'em coming _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.08.25 05:20:00 - [47] graphs of sec status would kinda be cool, and if they could somehow be overlaid onto a graph of people's income (delta isk = income?). Basically, when delta sec status is +, is income +? Or do pepole generally make more money when losing sec status? Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
Zendoren Aktaeon Industries	Posted - 2010.08.25 05:51:00 - [48] Originally by: alittlebirdy Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 25/08/2010 02:06:11 Originally by: Daniel Cordova If I were a merc/PVP corp I'd make a habit of checking boards like that to see what the marks are capable of flying and how well. As if checking battleclinic or other killboards wouldn't give you even better info (from certain viewpoints anyway). I suppose there is some merit in NOT using such a site if you PvP on a regular basis (although the effectiveness of not using it is pretty much on par or even worse than the effectiveness of using limited API keys to identify spies), but apparently a big chunk of the population (three quarters or so) doesn't get engaged in PvP at all (according to the QEN). That wouldn't fully explain the lowball 3% participation. LOL what are you bored or something need to keep making stupid threads to show off your stupidity. You ever like, do a war dec, look into moving to an area, joining an alliance (granted this is on a smaller scale than 0.0) ya let everyone know your skills, come on guys join up! When I want to wardec you, can flip ya, etc etc IÆll know your skills, and everything 8-) This makes looking up killboard info look like childÆs place. You are crying about local being too much of an intel tool but you want everyone to stick their skills on line for everyone else to see? Rofl are you permahigh? O ya and to gank hulks, lol, be nice to know their shield skills... etc before the gank. Same for ninjaÆs, they can see how good a tank the target may have, isk for ransomsà list goes on and onà /thread P.S. I hate hypocrites
Anthal The Warp Squad Deadly Unknown	Posted - 2010.08.25 05:54:00 - [49] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Anthal PVP Intel is the big one. Knowing that I can fly a Proteus is vastly different then knowing that I have 5 in all subsystems, high thermodynamics/strategic cruiser skill, maxed/high gunnery skills, high armor skills, and excellent cap/ewar skills. Another ship related point: Knowing I fly an arazu is one thing, knowing I fly an arazu with Recon 5 is completely different. Each level of the Recon skill is an additional 6km on a Domination point. As someone who lives in wormhole space, knowing exactly how well people can fly their current ship lets you pick your battles more effectively. Especially if they don't know that you are there, since there is no local. All of which becomes irrelevant if you password-protect your character, so you only 1) participate in anonymous statistics and 2) give the pass to people you'd normally give the API key to instead. It becomes a simple "it's not doing anything FOR me" issue. So, what COULD it do for you to make you want to use it ? Passwords can be cracked, and even though I trust Chribba, bad things can happen. At the same time, EveMon basically does the same thing, and even shows all of my chars without having to bookmark/browse to different pages. It just sits there for whenever I need it. More stats would make it more attractive, but I haven't the foggiest of what I would even be looking for. Maybe isk/hour? SP/Hour? Even then, it'd fun to check once or twice, and then I'd forget about it.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2010.08.25 06:42:00 - [50] Interesting thread, and some interesting ideas posted. Feel free to suggest ideas and the likes in the [eb] thread. @Security risks, indeed that is a very valid point and I assure you that I always have that in mind and aim to make everything as safe as possible, of course like said bad things could happen. Good thing API keys can be changed if something were to happen, but of course I hope that neither you or me will land in that situation. /c Secure 3rd party service \| my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'

Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.08.25 06:47:00 - [51] And yet Chribba himself is not listed. Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.08.25 07:05:00 - [52] Edited by: Akita T on 25/08/2010 07:15:38 Originally by: Zendoren stuff You might want to read my reply to him first. Originally by: Zeba And yet Chribba himself is not listed. Dun-dun-duuuuun ! Originally by: Anthal Passwords can be cracked, and even though I trust Chribba, bad things can happen. At the same time, EveMon basically does the same thing, and even shows all of my chars without having to bookmark/browse to different pages. It just sits there for whenever I need it. More stats would make it more attractive, but I haven't the foggiest of what I would even be looking for. Maybe isk/hour? SP/Hour? Even then, it'd fun to check once or twice, and then I'd forget about it. True, but then again, you can always use a stronger password to make it practically impossible. Chribba could even make it so that bruteforcing the password is as good as impossible (by, say, throttling attempts at password guessing the more incorrect attempts have been made recently). Also, you might want to check your skills and whatnot from locations where you couldn't install EVEMon at the time (granted, not the best of reasons, but still). You'd need to get to a machine where you have EVE (and therefore also almost certainly EVEMon too) to do something about it though. How about fun stats like "most ISK gained in last 24h/30d/3m/etc" (or ISK lost in same period) ? Those can be almost addictive to follow and would chance far more often than a straight ISK total ranking. Same for secstatus lost/gained maybe ? _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Mashie Saldana BFG Tech	Posted - 2010.08.25 07:41:00 - [53] The added benefit of [eb] is that you can use it to generate forum signatures.
Natalie Caladan Hedion University	Posted - 2010.08.25 08:50:00 - [54] I put my 2 mains on it but what's the use of posting your forum alts, cyno alts, datacore alts and such as well?
Marko Riva Adamant Inc.	Posted - 2010.08.25 08:54:00 - [55] Edited by: Marko Riva on 25/08/2010 08:54:17 OP is expecting people to care and not be lazy regarding something that doesn't benefit them I'm on it to share my skills with someone so he could have an idea of what to go for, and simply forgot to set it private (or even remove it). For gathering intel it's not really about specific ship skills, more of an assessment of how focussed a character is and if he actually gets EVE. People who only train ship/basic skills but kinda leave support skills behind probably won't be too good at understanding EVE. You can set it private ofcourse but then you'd go back to my initial statement; it doesn't benefit people directly, so why would they do it.
0oO0oOoOo0o	Posted - 2010.08.25 09:04:00 - [56] I love that most-isk-statistics: http://eveboard.com/fullranks/47-most-isk Akita T is ranked # 2 with 62.6 billion isk !! Can I maybe have some of that billions, Akita T ? I'm sure you don't need all of them
Rey Ajaichi T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Talos Coalition	Posted - 2010.08.25 10:16:00 - [57] Edited by: Rey Ajaichi on 25/08/2010 10:16:32 wrong post sorry
Corozan Aspinall Party Time Inc.	Posted - 2010.08.25 10:26:00 - [58] Been using it since it was released. Free intel is yummy! The first thing we do when we get a war dec/spy is run opposition alts through eveboard, facebook, myspace and google. Then when we know their real names, race, what they do (or more often don't do judging by their CV's), where they live and their last five known addresses based on credit reports, their age, what high school they went to and who their friends were, their sexuality and who they've dated recently and what their dates thought of the experience (don't use the same handle for match.com guys!), what mental health issues they are 'living with' and what support forums they post their rage on, the names of their pets (living and deceased), what their parents do, what their first sexual experience was, where they work, what they had for breakfast and how long they have been suffering chronic constipation (twitter ftw!) .. its a lot easier to formulate a strategy. Obvious troll? Probably but you get the idea ..
Freelance Swan	Posted - 2010.08.25 10:33:00 - [59] You gave some valid arguments and good points, i never minded registering on such sites, but you convinced me. So i went to the site and i saw: 1) your wallet, oh... my... god... it's scaring, i felt bad 2) chribba is not there?? i can't find him, i don't like this thing So, after your success, i went there and i felt bad and so i'm not registering anymore, sorry
Hel O'Ween Men On A Mission	Posted - 2010.08.25 11:19:00 - [60] Originally by: Akita T Personally, I have absolutely nothing set as hidden on my character, but I'm quite partial to the accuracy of anonymous statistics, so the more people participate (even if they choose to hide almost everything), the more accurate those statistics get. First commandement: Thou shalt not share your private data! Although it's "only" a game, people should start right here and get used to not sharing any personal information. It needs to become second nature to you. Quote: So... if you aren't using it... can you let us know why not AND what changes/improvements/tweaks COULD make you want to use it (if anything) ? It's one thing to not use it because it does nothing for you (that can be fixed by making it do something useful FOR YOU), but it's a completely different thing to not use it because you're scared something bad might happen if you do (even if there are ways to make sure nothing would). You always have to ask "is this (my) information of any worth to somebody?" If the answer is yes, well - compensate me accordingly. If the answer is no, you don't need that data anyway. TL;DR Never give away your data for free! -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager

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