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Savior to'Roids
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Posted - 2010.09.01 16:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Noun Verber
I'd get a noobship, leave station in pod and go to another in system for the second ship, fly it back to the first station, fit both miners to the same ship and head to the nearest belt to mine whatever is around (eg veld should fit 2,000 units into a small hold)
Or, you know, repackage and assemble the noobship, getting both two guns (to do level one missions) and two miners (to do something with). Then put which fits your fancy onto the noobship and get on with things.
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TehFailGuy
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Posted - 2010.09.01 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: TehFailGuy on 01/09/2010 16:41:47
Why mine? I'm telling you, just steal ore. You can fill your cargo hold with a couple of clicks. What are they going to do? Pop your noob ship? You can just get another as soon as you dock.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2010.09.01 19:04:00 -
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A few things ...
1) If you want to go steal ore - then fine - go do that. However - you are going to have to find someone with a jet can to do it. By the time you do that - you could easily have mined as much as you can carry in your rookie ship. So you can flip them. So - they can flip you back - what are you going to be doing to them in a rookie ship? By the time you haul your stolen ore back to the station and come back to your can - he will have flipped it back - and if you are lucky - you'll get one more rookie ship full of ore before he shows up in his industrial and just takes it all.
2) Yes - you can repackage and then reassemble your rookie ship as many times as you want - each time you repackage it - it will put the civilian miner and weapon into your items hangar - then when you assemble it again - it will assemble with brand new modules which will be added to the modules you already have in your items hangar if you repackage it again. CCP did this so that there would NEVER be a time when no matter what you did - that you couldn't have a miner and a weapon to start over with. You can sell those civilian miners (though not the weapons) on the market but you won't get much for them. For my own amusement - not because I was going to make any money at it - I have on occasion collected several dozen rookie ships of various types, selected them all, repackaged them all, then assembled them all - repeatedly - until I had several hundred Civilian Miners. I even asked if this was considered an Exploit before I did it and they said no. Essentially no one is going to make enough money doing this to matter. At one time - I was able to sell the rookie weapons on the market but then that changed. You can't sell the weapons or reprocess them or do anything but fit them to a ship or trash them - though you might be able to sell them via contracts ... I just can't imagine who would buy several hundred rookie weapons. Those civilian miners did all eventually sell though - as a lot of people don't know that you can just make them yourself by repackaging and then assembling rookie ships.
3) You can fit two rookie weapons on a rookie ship.
4) You can NOT fit two civilian miners on a rookie ship - it doesn't have the PG/CPU. They just won't fit.
5) As I said before - what you can do - is take the ore you get from one or two mine and return trips and sell it for 20k - then use that to buy a Mining Frigate - and put the two Civilian Miners on that.
6) The REAL weapon of a Rookie ship - is it's drone. If you are brand new - get yourself Drones I and Scout Drones I and you've got a drone in a few minutes of training (once you buy one of course). Here - the Gallente have a real advantage in having two drones. On several occasions, being bored and wanting something silly to do for a few minutes - I've put a single 150mm, a salvager, a Civilian Afterburner (I still have some of those laying around) and an overdrive injector on a Velator - given it two drones and gone ratting in it. It is the drones that do all the killing. I've recently killed destroyers in that ship and ... again ... it was the drones doing most of the damage. I have also run missions in that ship ... but ... it takes frakking forever ... so ... I don't do that very often.
7) Why do I go ratting still when it doesn't make much money? Because sometimes I still want to play for a few more minutes - but don't want to start a mission that might take longer than that - and I'm tired of mining for the moment. That and it is amusing to accomplish anything in a rookie ship. Any longer than a few minutes ... and killing things in a rookie ship becomes work ... thus instantly losing it's amusement value - and I go ahead and quit for the day.
Orbiting vs. Kiting
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Germaldi's sister
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.02 20:25:00 -
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as long as u have a rookie ship u can still make isk
mine veld in 1.0 to get enough isk to buy a frigate or even a destroyer or even a cruiser +fittings
then grind l1/l2 until u can afford a bc + fittings
then grind l3's /rat in 0.0 until u can afford a t2 cruiser or a bs + fittings.
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Kephael
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.09.02 22:54:00 -
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Buy a GTC and sell it.
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Eurulf Ofinur
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.03 18:44:00 -
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Regarding high-sec belt ratting:
I used to do it in Amarr space back in my newbie days before I moved into nullsec. The main profit was from selling the criminal tags the NPCs dropped, and looking at the prices on EVE-Central the prices of them still seem to be healthy. The tags dropped by high-end NPCs are pretty worthless as people farm those NPCs in missions and nullsec by the bucketload, but the ones dropped by the NPCs you see in high-sec belts can be worth several million ISK apiece. The second significant source of income was salvage, the usefulness of which depends very heavily on the rats' faction. Of the factions I'm familiar with, Sansha and Blood drop good salvage, and Guristas salvage is pretty worthless. I don't recall the loot dropped by the rats being of much value, and the bounties are of course tiny.
You won't get rich belt-ratting in hi-sec (barring extreme luck...) but it did provide me the ISK to get into a cruiser and get belt-ratting with corpmates in nullsec. I wouldn't do it in a noobship though... When starting from absolute scratch, better to do the tutorial agents and maybe the Epic Arc, if you haven't done that already, first... You want to ditch your noobship as soon as you can afford anything better.
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