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Posted - 2010.08.27 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Atedar Kerane
Originally by: Tobin Shalim This bull**** has gone too far. Now the ninja'ers are going into missions, stealing the mission objective loot (Worlds Collide for an example) and then bugging out, thus causing you to either petition the GM's and lose the bonus
Have you actually tried making an "Agent mission in progress" petition? The ones I've made was answered in 5-20 minutes.
Problem solved, you keep the bonus, and you even get to laugh at the theif when he tries ransoming you for the mission loot...
However, if there is a need to involve game masters in this matter, then clearly something is not working right.
I mean this is another burden on the petition system.
I don't have an easy fix ready tho, perhaps I'll think of something later :p
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Posted - 2010.08.27 11:04:00 -
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Edited by: CyberGh0st on 27/08/2010 11:06:19
Originally by: Ghoest Mission loot is the only place the care bear whiners have a real point in regards to ninja looting.
I agree with this, just have to find a proper solution for it ...
Perhaps the can should be locked, only possible to be opened by the owner, and the only thing another player can do is destroy the can, which would alert concord ... Just an idea ...
Meanwhile, you could go do missions in lowsec, haven't seen any ninjas in lowsec yet :p
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Posted - 2010.08.28 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Captain Torgo Edited by: Captain Torgo on 28/08/2010 15:56:56 Well, since nobody posted it yet...
Per CCP Mitnal: Originally by: CCP Mitnal "Our policy on this is extremely clear... Salvaging is a mini-profession within EVE and does not constitute stealing."
Per GM Faolchu : Originally by: GM Faolchu Salvaging other peoples wrecks.... This is an intended game mechanic and is in no way an exploit. People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong. The players are salvaging what is effectively floating rubbish in space and Concord places no value on this wreckage. Eve is a harsh place you won't always have everything go your way, its a do or die world and people do what they can to get along. If salvaging some wreckage gets them a few more ISK someone will do it, it doesn't matter who just blew it up.
Per Senior GM Ytterbium : Originally by: GM Ytterbium Players are still completely free to salvage other pilot wrecks at will ... and doing so is not considered as an exploit.
Per CCP Prism X : Originally by: CCP Prism X Why is stealing salvage OK? It's not. It shouldn't even be possible to move an item from your cargo-hold / hanger to another persons cargo-hold / hanger without opening a trade window. Before the salvage enters those containers it is not considered your stuff by the server code. Hence it's not stealing.
Per CCP Incognito : Originally by: CCP Incognito Had a chat with some designers this evening. Ninja salvaging is intended game play. It was always intended that the wrecks are public, the loot is private. They do not see it as a problem if others salvage your wrecks.
(These quotes are kept handy for your convenience at Ironfleet.com.)
As for stealing mission required items, you need to deal with it yourself. If you can't then you're not fit for this universe. Just as natural selection weeds out the weak, so too shall you be weeded out. There you go, Tobin. Suck it.
I am glad you posted this. I pointed this out before, concord does in fact place value on the wreckage. The value it enough to blow up ANY ship in the game over it. The wrecks are indeed "private."
Lol, nice for you to post all these links and quotes, too bad this has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
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Posted - 2010.08.29 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jaqel Broadside Take the standing hit for this mission and dont pay 0.01 ISK - you can get this back fairly quickly.
That really depends on what mission you are doing.
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