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Vilgan Mazran Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:51:00 - [31] Why would they do away with it? I have no interest in leaving w-space to go back to 0.0, but if I did providence seems like one of the most interesting places to live. Traveling a couple jumps for a fight instead of 30? Its got the benefits of npc space with lots of reds nearby but the logistics/boosted anoms/etc of sov space. Sounds great to me.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:57:00 - [32] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2010 19:42:01 Originally by: Bud Johnson Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2010 19:24:49 If the non SOV ban enforced by AAA is lifted, Providence will be unrecognizable in about a week. The NIP is enforced by provi holders. UMAD. Do you not have a clue? Though they may be holding to that now while AAA cascades. They did not think of it themselves and they will not stick to it for very long on their own. I don't think you "get" the Provi fight club. I also don't think you realize that the current Provi leadership is, as a rule, much more experienced at alliance/coalition leadership than old Provi. Quote: The dead beats running around down there will get bored and leave. Alot faster than it took the NRDS bloc to get bored and leave. The "NRDS" block didn't get bored and leave, they were evicted due to an excess of ego. Why would we get bored? It's the one spot in EVE right now that has non-stop, free-for-all combat on a daily basis. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.27 20:31:00 - [33] Enlightened self interest will keep the Provi Fight Club from falling on each-other for the foreseeable future. -A- certainly represented a "big brother" type figure against real sov-taking threats (ie, NOT us in CVA) but beyond that, holding space via gentlemen's agreement is preferable to no space at all by many standards...so I don't expect the Providence fight club to collapse just because -A- is no longer around unless a major power decides to roll in and assert their will (an unlikely scenario.)
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor Elite	Posted - 2010.08.27 21:21:00 - [34] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2010 21:22:05 Maybe... maybe not. I am not trying to be right here, I just don't buy it. Sure, mutual self interest seems like it would *tend* to keep things the way they are now, but there are to many carebear egos in the region. Soon enough someone will get an idea, someone else will get butthurt, and then things will change. Ultimately, what you see in providence is a coalition of renters who (as far as I know) were not paying rent to AAA. If their big brother is gone, I believe we will all soon find that renter alliances are renters for a reason. They will not be able to make it on their own for very long. Some maybe ... but most wont.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.08.27 21:38:00 - [35] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2010 21:22:05 Maybe... maybe not. I am not trying to be right here, I just don't buy it. Sure, mutual self interest seems like it would *tend* to keep things the way they are now, but there are to many carebear egos in the region. Soon enough someone will get an idea, someone else will get butthurt, and then things will change. Ultimately, what you see in providence is a coalition of renters who (as far as I know) were not paying rent to AAA. If their big brother is gone, I believe we will all soon find that renter alliances are renters for a reason. They will not be able to make it on their own for very long. Some maybe ... but most wont. Providence is an interesting mix, I'll grant you that. You have quite a collection of alliances there ranging from the primarily industrial, to those catering heavily to the newer player, to the long time vet crowd looking to do thier own thing without being tied to an old school alliances apron strings. Some will fall to attrition by outside interests, some will grow bored and move on, some may even get twitchy and spark a cohesive response from the rest of the Provi Block (effectively committing suicide). But most of the major powers are in the hands of the more experienced crowd, who long since put the desire for in-game action as a higher priority than engaging often pointless and incredibly boring campaigns of conquest simply to control more space. So I don't disagree with you entirely, but I believe "some" won't make it rather than "most" won't make it. Time will tell I suppose. Quote: I'd say we were evicted because we were outmatched from the ground up (average quality of pilots, access to supercaps, numbers, :lolbattlecruisers:, etc etc etc.) With due respect to all CVA pilots I stand somewhat corrected. The excess of ego I spoke of was on the part of CVA leadership, not the pilots attempting to deal with a bad situation. You did the best you could with the hand you were dealt. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.08.27 23:06:00 - [36] Well, its okay if theres no NRDS. The good news is, Jita can now handle 1540 players, which means more market capacity of the empire ;)
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe	Posted - 2010.08.27 23:16:00 - [37] Having a great time in Providence Just sayin' Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
Irae Ragwan	Posted - 2010.08.27 23:52:00 - [38] Posting to confirm that roaming in Provi in recent weeks has almost convinced me to move back to 0.0 again from lowsec. Good fights to be had almost anywhere ya like. I hope this lasts a bit longer.
reslinal rock	Posted - 2010.08.28 01:00:00 - [39] Which alliance in providence cater more to new players if you don't mind I asking? I'd like to join
Agent42	Posted - 2010.08.28 05:23:00 - [40] Anyone believe in the providence curse? Most of the parties involved in the ouster of CVA and co have come across great misfortune as of late. SYS-K was the first by getting reset by SE/C0ven and losing esoteria and about 65% of their numbers. UK got hargothed Atlas is close to die -A- is falling apart.
Ocih Amarr The Program Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.08.28 06:16:00 - [41] Originally by: Garreck Edited by: Garreck on 27/08/2010 20:39:30 Enlightened self interest will keep the Provi Fight Club from falling on each-other for the foreseeable future. -A- certainly represented a "big brother" type figure against real sov-taking threats (ie, NOT us in CVA) but beyond that, holding space via gentlemen's agreement is preferable to no space at all by many standards...so I don't expect the Providence fight club to collapse just because -A- is no longer around unless a major power decides to roll in and assert their will (an unlikely scenario.) edit Originally by: Ranger 1 The "NRDS" block didn't get bored and leave, they were evicted due to an excess of ego. I'd say we were evicted because we were outmatched from the ground up (average quality of pilots, access to supercaps, numbers, :lolbattlecruisers:, etc etc etc.) No Garreck. You were 'evicted' because after 5 years of inside POS popping, lagg crushing combat, unenforceable Sov in doominion EvE, spies abusing neut, most of your corps got fed up with fighting for an NRDS policy that meant flying in the most unprofitable, sht-tastic space in EvE. Being trashed for trying to keep provi as a gateway to null for most of EvE, being accused of somehow using neuts as a meat shield. CVA is a legacy alliance in this game. One I was proud to be a part of. Alot of the trailer trash that run around provi will never understand why and I dont give a ****. As long as CVA builders know. /salutes CVA Yell when you need me.
Bud Johnson Rapscallions	Posted - 2010.08.28 06:19:00 - [42] Originally by: Ocih No Garreck. You were 'evicted' because after 5 years of inside POS popping, lagg crushing combat, unenforceable Sov in doominion EvE, spies abusing neut, most of your corps got fed up with fighting for an NRDS policy that meant flying in the most unprofitable, sht-tastic space in EvE. Being trashed for trying to keep provi as a gateway to null for most of EvE, being accused of somehow using neuts as a meat shield. CVA is a legacy alliance in this game. One I was proud to be a part of. Alot of the trailer trash that run around provi will never understand why and I dont give a ****. As long as CVA builders know. /salutes CVA Yell when you need me.
Dirk Mortice	Posted - 2010.08.28 08:11:00 - [43] Originally by: Aiwha -A- & friends lost a titan to the new holders What? Oh, you mean that titan that -A- shot at. (hint - the local chat was a troll)

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