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digitalnemesis	Posted - 2010.08.27 13:31:00 - [1] What exactly happened to CVA and LFA? I have assets in that space and I assume it would be dangerous if I flew back into the area? Any advice on what to do with my assets over there? I don't think I can safely enter and collect my stuff. :D Thanks
Telvani	Posted - 2010.08.27 13:35:00 - [2] Sell via contracts might only get 80-95% of its value but will save time/hassle
Rin Kaeda Gallente The Littlest Hobos Damu'Khonde	Posted - 2010.08.27 14:35:00 - [3] Short story: Curbstomped by -A- / U'K coalition Long story: Providence Holders made a push into Catch and -A- got angry, took over D-GMTI as retaliation and then there were talks like: Don't try to take over space in Catch and we can be friends, capiche? To which CVA said: Sorry we aren't gonna do that. So -A- decided that Providence should burn to the ground and hence the current situation, which btw is imo far more fun
JC Anderson Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2010.08.27 14:36:00 - [4] Originally by: digitalnemesis What exactly happened to CVA and LFA? I have assets in that space and I assume it would be dangerous if I flew back into the area? Any advice on what to do with my assets over there? I don't think I can safely enter and collect my stuff. :D Thanks http://eve.battleclinic.com/news/62767-Breaking-News-CVA-disband.html
FunzzeR Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2010.08.27 14:48:00 - [5] "Its always fun to sing bye CVA" PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!! THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!!
Aiwha Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2010.08.27 14:54:00 - [6] And then UK got BoB'd, -A- & friends lost a titan to the new holders, Hydra Reloaded is making pushes into Provi, CVA is looking to push back as well. Pretty much... Total chaos? 101st SMF Recruiter CONTACT INFO Skype -- cpl.aihwa IRC -- irc.raelgun.net #The_Aihwa_Lair
digitalnemesis	Posted - 2010.08.27 15:02:00 - [7] Anyone got links to territorial maps showing the changes before and after the fight?
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2010.08.27 15:05:00 - [8] Originally by: digitalnemesis Anyone got links to territorial maps showing the changes before and after the fight? Yeah, Google does, ya bum --- ☻♥ Problem? Therapy sessions ♥☻
digitalnemesis	Posted - 2010.08.27 15:09:00 - [9] Originally by: Captain Pompous Originally by: digitalnemesis Anyone got links to territorial maps showing the changes before and after the fight? Yeah, Google does, ya bum chav
Aiwha Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2010.08.27 15:11:00 - [10] You're welcome 101st SMF Recruiter CONTACT INFO Skype -- cpl.aihwa IRC -- irc.raelgun.net #The_Aihwa_Lair
digitalnemesis	Posted - 2010.08.27 15:13:00 - [11] Originally by: Aiwha You're welcome Thanks, that was a helpful post. No really :)
JC Anderson Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2010.08.27 15:14:00 - [12] Originally by: Aiwha You're welcome LOL thats pretty cool.
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2010.08.27 15:15:00 - [13] Originally by: digitalnemesis Originally by: Captain Pompous Originally by: digitalnemesis Anyone got links to territorial maps showing the changes before and after the fight? Yeah, Google does, ya bum chav Seriously, how does me trying to make you a better, more self-reliant person make me a chav? In all honesty, it was you who was asking for handouts. So there. --- ☻♥ Problem? Therapy sessions ♥☻
digitalnemesis	Posted - 2010.08.27 15:19:00 - [14] There was no need for the "ya bum" comment. Originally by: Captain Pompous Originally by: digitalnemesis Originally by: Captain Pompous Originally by: digitalnemesis Anyone got links to territorial maps showing the changes before and after the fight? Yeah, Google does, ya bum chav Seriously, how does me trying to make you a better, more self-reliant person make me a chav? In all honesty, it was you who was asking for handouts. So there.
Rin Kaeda Gallente The Littlest Hobos Damu'Khonde	Posted - 2010.08.27 16:39:00 - [15] Originally by: Aiwha And then UK got BoB'd, -A- & friends lost a titan to the new holders, Hydra Reloaded is making pushes into Provi, CVA is looking to push back as well. Pretty much... Total chaos? Dunno about the Titan, unless you're referring to the CO2 Titan recently killed. But CVA & Hydra certainly aren't pushing into Provi. Hydra had their fun until they lost half a dozen machariels , then they pretty much vanished. CVA hasn't been seen at all basically, just the odd roaming gang / solo pilot around R-3. Chaos it isn't but a nice fightclub where you don't have to travel 50 jumps to get a fight. Most days you just need to undock and it's right there, on your doorstep :P As for your alliance, you do run scarily tight gangs, respect for that, gotta find a counter for those basilisks you seems to field every time Oh and on the news today, CVAs last sov in Providence was removed today from 2V-CS5 without opposition in the 2+ days it took to grind through the last timers.
Syn Callibri Blacklight Incorporated Broken Chains Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.27 17:29:00 - [16] Originally by: Aiwha You're welcome I lol'd. Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Clan Chosen of the Orrl-valuk
Ocih Amarr The Program Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.08.27 17:31:00 - [17] Most of LFA, Sylph, Pax corps went NC. Some CVA corps intergrated as well. Some remain on the R3 pipe tormenting and ganking by opportunity. I left for 3 or 4 months too, came back to the -A- welfare project that is current Provi. My assets are fine where they are. The dead beats running around down there will get bored and leave. Alot faster than it took the NRDS bloc to get bored and leave.
Ryhss Caldari Ominous Corp Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.08.27 17:47:00 - [18] Originally by: Rin Kaeda Short story: Curbstomped by -A- / U'K coalition Long story: Providence Holders made a push into Catch and -A- got angry, took over D-GMTI as retaliation and then there were talks like: Don't try to take over space in Catch and we can be friends, capiche? To which CVA said: Sorry we aren't gonna do that. So -A- decided that Providence should burn to the ground and hence the current situation, which btw is imo far more fun And many rejoiced....
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor Elite	Posted - 2010.08.27 18:14:00 - [19] Originally by: Rin Kaeda Short story: Curbstomped by -A- / U'K coalition Long story: Providence Holders made a push into Catch and -A- got angry, took over D-GMTI as retaliation and then there were talks like: Don't try to take over space in Catch and we can be friends, capiche? To which CVA said: Sorry we aren't gonna do that. So -A- decided that Providence should burn to the ground and hence the current situation, which btw is imo far more fun Then ask what happened to UK next
Trauli	Posted - 2010.08.27 18:23:00 - [20] -A- got mad that CVA may interfere with sov warfare on catch SHOCK -A- rounded up every *got in the south to help kill them because they couldn't do it themselves even with a massive supercap advantage snort CVA and gots were removed after about 2-3 months -A- installed a mass of complete idiots WHO WILL NEVER TOUCH OUR IHUBS OR CSAAS MKAY? -A- realised what they had done was hugely *****ed taking away the best roaming area in the game -A- leader quit now -A- is in full on failcasecade mode with the majority of corps leaving
Bud Johnson Rapscallions	Posted - 2010.08.27 18:29:00 - [21] Originally by: Trauli -A- got mad that CVA may interfere with sov warfare on catch SHOCK -A- rounded up every *got in the south to help kill them because they couldn't do it themselves even with a massive supercap advantage snort CVA and gots were removed after about 2-3 months -A- installed a mass of complete idiots WHO WILL NEVER TOUCH OUR IHUBS OR CSAAS MKAY? -A- realised what they had done was hugely *****ed taking away the best roaming area in the game -A- leader quit now -A- is in full on failcasecade mode with the majority of corps leaving
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor Elite	Posted - 2010.08.27 18:33:00 - [22] Since CAOD is trickling into general, I would like to add that the present "Providence Fightclub" is beyond fail, and if given enough time and Space CVA will reclaim at least a part of Providence again.
Trauli	Posted - 2010.08.27 18:43:00 - [23] CVA are too terrible to do anything on their own
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor Elite	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:04:00 - [24] Originally by: Trauli CVA are too terrible to do anything on their own Evidently so is everyone else belonging to a massive NAP train. Your point is what exactly?
Trauli	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:08:00 - [25] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Originally by: Trauli CVA are too terrible to do anything on their own Evidently so is everyone else belonging to a massive NAP train. Your point is what exactly? The point is that CVA aren't going to get their space back because they are on an equal terribleness rating to the terribleness of the alliances that have their space (which are really terrible) who also have a lot more numbers. I'd like them to get provi back again but what are the chances of that happening anytime soon? Not much.
Trauli	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:12:00 - [26] But well **** it you could invade catch i suppose with -A- dying.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor Elite	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:23:00 - [27] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2010 19:24:49 If the non SOV ban enforced by AAA is lifted, Providence will be unrecognizable in about a week.
Bud Johnson Rapscallions	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:30:00 - [28] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2010 19:24:49 If the non SOV ban enforced by AAA is lifted, Providence will be unrecognizable in about a week. The NIP is enforced by provi holders. UMAD.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:37:00 - [29] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2010 19:24:49 If the non SOV ban enforced by AAA is lifted, Providence will be unrecognizable in about a week. Try to keep up with current events please. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor Elite	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:38:00 - [30] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2010 19:42:01 Originally by: Bud Johnson Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2010 19:24:49 If the non SOV ban enforced by AAA is lifted, Providence will be unrecognizable in about a week. The NIP is enforced by provi holders. UMAD. Do you not have a clue? Though they may be holding to that now while AAA cascades. They did not think of it themselves and they will not stick to it for very long on their own.
Vilgan Mazran Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:51:00 - [31] Why would they do away with it? I have no interest in leaving w-space to go back to 0.0, but if I did providence seems like one of the most interesting places to live. Traveling a couple jumps for a fight instead of 30? Its got the benefits of npc space with lots of reds nearby but the logistics/boosted anoms/etc of sov space. Sounds great to me.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.08.27 19:57:00 - [32] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2010 19:42:01 Originally by: Bud Johnson Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2010 19:24:49 If the non SOV ban enforced by AAA is lifted, Providence will be unrecognizable in about a week. The NIP is enforced by provi holders. UMAD. Do you not have a clue? Though they may be holding to that now while AAA cascades. They did not think of it themselves and they will not stick to it for very long on their own. I don't think you "get" the Provi fight club. I also don't think you realize that the current Provi leadership is, as a rule, much more experienced at alliance/coalition leadership than old Provi. Quote: The dead beats running around down there will get bored and leave. Alot faster than it took the NRDS bloc to get bored and leave. The "NRDS" block didn't get bored and leave, they were evicted due to an excess of ego. Why would we get bored? It's the one spot in EVE right now that has non-stop, free-for-all combat on a daily basis. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.27 20:31:00 - [33] Enlightened self interest will keep the Provi Fight Club from falling on each-other for the foreseeable future. -A- certainly represented a "big brother" type figure against real sov-taking threats (ie, NOT us in CVA) but beyond that, holding space via gentlemen's agreement is preferable to no space at all by many standards...so I don't expect the Providence fight club to collapse just because -A- is no longer around unless a major power decides to roll in and assert their will (an unlikely scenario.)
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor Elite	Posted - 2010.08.27 21:21:00 - [34] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2010 21:22:05 Maybe... maybe not. I am not trying to be right here, I just don't buy it. Sure, mutual self interest seems like it would *tend* to keep things the way they are now, but there are to many carebear egos in the region. Soon enough someone will get an idea, someone else will get butthurt, and then things will change. Ultimately, what you see in providence is a coalition of renters who (as far as I know) were not paying rent to AAA. If their big brother is gone, I believe we will all soon find that renter alliances are renters for a reason. They will not be able to make it on their own for very long. Some maybe ... but most wont.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.08.27 21:38:00 - [35] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2010 21:22:05 Maybe... maybe not. I am not trying to be right here, I just don't buy it. Sure, mutual self interest seems like it would *tend* to keep things the way they are now, but there are to many carebear egos in the region. Soon enough someone will get an idea, someone else will get butthurt, and then things will change. Ultimately, what you see in providence is a coalition of renters who (as far as I know) were not paying rent to AAA. If their big brother is gone, I believe we will all soon find that renter alliances are renters for a reason. They will not be able to make it on their own for very long. Some maybe ... but most wont. Providence is an interesting mix, I'll grant you that. You have quite a collection of alliances there ranging from the primarily industrial, to those catering heavily to the newer player, to the long time vet crowd looking to do thier own thing without being tied to an old school alliances apron strings. Some will fall to attrition by outside interests, some will grow bored and move on, some may even get twitchy and spark a cohesive response from the rest of the Provi Block (effectively committing suicide). But most of the major powers are in the hands of the more experienced crowd, who long since put the desire for in-game action as a higher priority than engaging often pointless and incredibly boring campaigns of conquest simply to control more space. So I don't disagree with you entirely, but I believe "some" won't make it rather than "most" won't make it. Time will tell I suppose. Quote: I'd say we were evicted because we were outmatched from the ground up (average quality of pilots, access to supercaps, numbers, :lolbattlecruisers:, etc etc etc.) With due respect to all CVA pilots I stand somewhat corrected. The excess of ego I spoke of was on the part of CVA leadership, not the pilots attempting to deal with a bad situation. You did the best you could with the hand you were dealt. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Moose Burger	Posted - 2010.08.27 23:06:00 - [36] Well, its okay if theres no NRDS. The good news is, Jita can now handle 1540 players, which means more market capacity of the empire ;)
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe	Posted - 2010.08.27 23:16:00 - [37] Having a great time in Providence Just sayin' Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
Irae Ragwan	Posted - 2010.08.27 23:52:00 - [38] Posting to confirm that roaming in Provi in recent weeks has almost convinced me to move back to 0.0 again from lowsec. Good fights to be had almost anywhere ya like. I hope this lasts a bit longer.
reslinal rock	Posted - 2010.08.28 01:00:00 - [39] Which alliance in providence cater more to new players if you don't mind I asking? I'd like to join
Agent42	Posted - 2010.08.28 05:23:00 - [40] Anyone believe in the providence curse? Most of the parties involved in the ouster of CVA and co have come across great misfortune as of late. SYS-K was the first by getting reset by SE/C0ven and losing esoteria and about 65% of their numbers. UK got hargothed Atlas is close to die -A- is falling apart.
Ocih Amarr The Program Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.08.28 06:16:00 - [41] Originally by: Garreck Edited by: Garreck on 27/08/2010 20:39:30 Enlightened self interest will keep the Provi Fight Club from falling on each-other for the foreseeable future. -A- certainly represented a "big brother" type figure against real sov-taking threats (ie, NOT us in CVA) but beyond that, holding space via gentlemen's agreement is preferable to no space at all by many standards...so I don't expect the Providence fight club to collapse just because -A- is no longer around unless a major power decides to roll in and assert their will (an unlikely scenario.) edit Originally by: Ranger 1 The "NRDS" block didn't get bored and leave, they were evicted due to an excess of ego. I'd say we were evicted because we were outmatched from the ground up (average quality of pilots, access to supercaps, numbers, :lolbattlecruisers:, etc etc etc.) No Garreck. You were 'evicted' because after 5 years of inside POS popping, lagg crushing combat, unenforceable Sov in doominion EvE, spies abusing neut, most of your corps got fed up with fighting for an NRDS policy that meant flying in the most unprofitable, sht-tastic space in EvE. Being trashed for trying to keep provi as a gateway to null for most of EvE, being accused of somehow using neuts as a meat shield. CVA is a legacy alliance in this game. One I was proud to be a part of. Alot of the trailer trash that run around provi will never understand why and I dont give a ****. As long as CVA builders know. /salutes CVA Yell when you need me.
Bud Johnson Rapscallions	Posted - 2010.08.28 06:19:00 - [42] Originally by: Ocih No Garreck. You were 'evicted' because after 5 years of inside POS popping, lagg crushing combat, unenforceable Sov in doominion EvE, spies abusing neut, most of your corps got fed up with fighting for an NRDS policy that meant flying in the most unprofitable, sht-tastic space in EvE. Being trashed for trying to keep provi as a gateway to null for most of EvE, being accused of somehow using neuts as a meat shield. CVA is a legacy alliance in this game. One I was proud to be a part of. Alot of the trailer trash that run around provi will never understand why and I dont give a ****. As long as CVA builders know. /salutes CVA Yell when you need me.
Dirk Mortice	Posted - 2010.08.28 08:11:00 - [43] Originally by: Aiwha -A- & friends lost a titan to the new holders What? Oh, you mean that titan that -A- shot at. (hint - the local chat was a troll)

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