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Esk Esme
Far From Sober
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Posted - 2012.07.27 10:33:00 -
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lol
ok bit about me ive played eve for 6-7 years have done nerly everything in eve from fc'ing large fleets to fc'ing pierate gangs and roams
have lived in 0.0 for many years and been pirate for many years have done empire ganks / invention / 0.0 plexing /lvl4 emp missions / mineing / living in whs / pi / moon mineing im what your call a gypse of eve i pay my sub i play my way
thing iv noticed abut fw is that every1 can get a share of the wealth were as in 0.0 for exsample only the select few get the major isk from moon's and sh!t
ok i see alot ppl crying about min fw lmfao they have majoraty system controll why shouldnt they make cash doesnt matter how they got majorty controll they have it, the majorty system controll will change hands at some point nothing in eve lasts for ever
out of my experiance in eve lo-sec is most dangaras place in eve 0.0 is a nap fest of over bloted allainces but in lo-sec you have a multple of factors that make it crazy thats y i live in lo-sec and love it
but for me nothing rong with FW its about time ccp give a little bit of qualty isk to the avrage player and tbh fw isk is nothing compared to what allainces have made from moon goo wouldnt even make a dent tbh
so i say gl to min fw millitia milk it what it lasts coz it will flip at some stage same goes for caldari
my spelling sux sue me
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Amymuffmuff
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2012.07.27 10:43:00 -
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who's crying? other than moar tears of course.
we just want to try and make it better :)
Iron Oxide.
2IC & Diplomat
Minmatar Milita KB & TS Lead Admin
Queen of the Channel Operators
Amarr Surplus Equipment Manager-á |
Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers
Moar Tears
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Posted - 2012.07.27 10:49:00 -
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Confirmed that after reading that post I am crying and still not quite sure what I read.
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2012.07.27 11:00:00 -
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FW has really nothing to offer for older players, but for buddy alts it is excellent grinding zone, one alt can make couple billions isk / day so personally i am farming about 10b isk / day without any effort or risk.
put alts in plexes, play round WoT, repeat. could not be easier. |
Generals4
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Posted - 2012.07.27 11:04:00 -
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Esk Esme wrote:lol
ok bit about me ive played eve for 6-7 years have done nerly everything in eve from fc'ing large fleets to fc'ing pierate gangs and roams
have lived in 0.0 for many years and been pirate for many years have done empire ganks / invention / 0.0 plexing /lvl4 emp missions / mineing / living in whs / pi / moon mineing im what your call a gypse of eve i pay my sub i play my way
thing iv noticed abut fw is that every1 can get a share of the wealth were as in 0.0 for exsample only the select few get the major isk from moon's and sh!t
ok i see alot ppl crying about min fw lmfao they have majoraty system controll why shouldnt they make cash doesnt matter how they got majorty controll they have it, the majorty system controll will change hands at some point nothing in eve lasts for ever
out of my experiance in eve lo-sec is most dangaras place in eve 0.0 is a nap fest of over bloted allainces but in lo-sec you have a multple of factors that make it crazy thats y i live in lo-sec and love it
but for me nothing rong with FW its about time ccp give a little bit of qualty isk to the avrage player and tbh fw isk is nothing compared to what allainces have made from moon goo wouldnt even make a dent tbh
so i say gl to min fw millitia milk it what it lasts coz it will flip at some stage same goes for caldari
my spelling sux sue me
The reason why we want FW to be fixed is because right now it is a broken farm. The "winners" make way too many isks and the losers way too little due to the coefficients which are over the top. And on top of that the whole plexing mechanism needs an overhaul. As a caldari i can make quite some iskies and it doesn't prevent me to say FW is broken.
Don't confuse criticism with "whining".
-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |
Tuch Mei
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.27 12:22:00 -
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Please, have some respect for those who have to read this, you acknowledge the bad spelling, so use google and fix that ****. |
Zicon Shak'ra
Vacuo Anomalia
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Posted - 2012.07.27 12:54:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:Confirmed that after reading that post I am crying and still not quite sure what I read.
At least you will pee less now. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
329
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Posted - 2012.07.27 13:35:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:put alts in plexes, play round WoT, repeat. could not be easier.
Set up moon goo op, play multiple rounds of WoT, go offline for a week long vacation, make billions of isk. |
Lexmana
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
614
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Posted - 2012.07.27 13:49:00 -
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Crying about crying is even worse. Especially clueless crying. |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
Iron Oxide.
214
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Posted - 2012.07.27 13:54:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:FW has really nothing to offer for older players, but for buddy alts it is excellent grinding zone, one alt can make couple billions isk / day so personally i am farming about 10b isk / day without any effort or risk.
put alts in plexes, play round WoT, repeat. could not be easier.
So you are running 4/5 alts and claim its no effort? |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
Caldari State Capturing
176
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Posted - 2012.07.27 14:37:00 -
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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:FW has really nothing to offer for older players, but for buddy alts it is excellent grinding zone, one alt can make couple billions isk / day so personally i am farming about 10b isk / day without any effort or risk.
put alts in plexes, play round WoT, repeat. could not be easier. So you are running 4/5 alts and claim its no effort?
Not really effort, i usually play with several accounts anyway |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
302
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Posted - 2012.07.27 17:58:00 -
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No one complains louder than FW people. No one.
Gallente FW Blog http://iamsheriff.com/blog
C'est La Eve :) |
Rezig Huruta
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
36
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Posted - 2012.07.27 18:05:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:No one complains louder than FW people. No one.
I'm not so sure about that. The crying from both gankers and hi-sec miners is a virtual cacophony of cries. |
Salicaz
Wolfsbrigade
Lost Obsession
63
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Posted - 2012.07.27 18:09:00 -
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"Having lived in null for years and knowing **** all about FW here is my uninformed opinon: herpaderp flerp lolz"
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Mutnin
SQUIDS.
265
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Posted - 2012.07.27 18:35:00 -
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Esk Esme wrote:lol
ok bit about me ive played eve for 6-7 years have done nerly everything in eve from fc'ing large fleets to fc'ing pierate gangs and roams
have lived in 0.0 for many years and been pirate for many years have done empire ganks / invention / 0.0 plexing /lvl4 emp missions / mineing / living in whs / pi / moon mineing im what your call a gypse of eve i pay my sub i play my way
thing iv noticed abut fw is that every1 can get a share of the wealth were as in 0.0 for exsample only the select few get the major isk from moon's and sh!t
ok i see alot ppl crying about min fw lmfao they have majoraty system controll why shouldnt they make cash doesnt matter how they got majorty controll they have it, the majorty system controll will change hands at some point nothing in eve lasts for ever
out of my experiance in eve lo-sec is most dangaras place in eve 0.0 is a nap fest of over bloted allainces but in lo-sec you have a multple of factors that make it crazy thats y i live in lo-sec and love it
but for me nothing rong with FW its about time ccp give a little bit of qualty isk to the avrage player and tbh fw isk is nothing compared to what allainces have made from moon goo wouldnt even make a dent tbh
so i say gl to min fw millitia milk it what it lasts coz it will flip at some stage same goes for caldari
my spelling sux sue me
The complaints you see about Minmatar & their tier V is largely due to the fact they have an unfair advantage in being able to hit tier V much easier than any other Militia.
Minmatar holds 66 systems with Amarr having 3 last I looked. This gives them ability to do LP dumps at will to hit tier V by only holding 66 systems. Meanwhile Caldari for example holds 62 or 63 systems last I looked and we have held up to 65-66 at any given time. Yet holding the same amount of systems as Minmatar we still need and additional 20 systems roughly to be able to hit tier V.
Now lets look at the flip side, lets say Amarr started pushing back and taking systems. They would also only be able to get to tier 4 by holding 66 systems that Minmatar holds today. Amarr would likely need about 70 systems to hit tier V.
Meaning every faction "except" Mimatar is required to hold between 70-85 systems in order to get to tier V but Minmatar can do it holding roughly 62-63. The reason for this is the war zone control is based on a percentage of systems being held to control the war zone and CCP didn't start each faction with a level playing field when they created FW.
For what ever reason, when CCP set up FW, they gave Caldari & Galentte roughly 50 systems each, meaning both sides need to hold roughly 80 systems in order to hit tier V under the new system.
Meanwhile on the Minmatar & Amarr war front CCP gave Amarr only 30 systems while giving Minmatar 40 I think it was. This means by way of system control to reach tier V, Minmatar have it much easier than any other faction in the game.
TL:Dr Minmatar have it much easier than any other faction. |
Zea'dal
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2012.07.27 18:43:00 -
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When there's no punctuation, I tend to read it as fast as I can in one breath. This causes me to lose attention in which fail to comprehend my own reading afterwards.
You claim to have played EVE for 6 years. You must the youngest person to have ever played EVE because your writing skills are equivalent to a 4 year old. 
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
507
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Posted - 2012.07.27 19:33:00 -
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With a few notable exceptions ccp has done a fine job with faction war.
I think allot of the people who complain about too much isk really haven't pvped as much as they should. Ships and modules cost allot of isk these days.
I think the actual pay for faction war - tier ssytem and no pay for defensive plexing - makes sense. Over time I think people in the militia will figure this out.
There are some tweaks that need to happen though. They should make the plexing part of faction war a pvp activity. They can leave the missions for pve-ers I don't mind. But the actualy occupancy should be a pvp game or its really pretty silly.
I think that is what is on the agenda for winter.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Dynast
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
63
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Posted - 2012.07.27 21:35:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:FW has really nothing to offer for older players,
Except PvP. |
Nethrun
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
0
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Posted - 2012.07.27 23:02:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:FW has really nothing to offer for older players, but for buddy alts it is excellent grinding zone, one alt can make couple billions isk / day so personally i am farming about 10b isk / day without any effort or risk.
put alts in plexes, play round WoT, repeat. could not be easier.
your making 10bil / day with how many alts? |
Zero Conscience
Evil Objects In Space
1
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Posted - 2012.07.28 00:37:00 -
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Pepole are making alts just to afk/reap billions of ISKin a very short timespan. Almost the definition of broken imo. |
Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
245
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Posted - 2012.07.28 08:55:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:put alts in plexes, play round WoT, repeat. could not be easier. Set up moon goo op, play multiple rounds of WoT, go offline for a week long vacation, make billions of isk.
Because no one will hit your moon goo op and you won;t be forced to defend it, right ? Damn, wish I would've thought about it earlier.
Regarding the OP, I partly agree with the statement, but there is one major flaw in the winners reaping the rewards of FW. The fact that anyone can put alts in, means that in practice not only the winners are partaking in the rewards, but everyone else also does. Which is indeed a bit meh.
Otoh, more isk for shiny is barely reason to complain, even if everyone gets it, it should only lead to nicer fights, what else can one do with fucktons of isk other than get them exploded in pvp ? |
Lord Arakkis
Knights of Illusion SquarePig Transport Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.29 00:44:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:FW has really nothing to offer for older players, but for buddy alts it is excellent grinding zone, one alt can make couple billions isk / day so personally i am farming about 10b isk / day without any effort or risk.
put alts in plexes, play round WoT, repeat. could not be easier.
I need to find, shadow and learn from you.
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Frillo Teslar
2plus2isfive
BricK sQuAD.
9
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Posted - 2012.07.29 13:25:00 -
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Salicaz wrote:"Having lived in null for years and knowing **** all about FW here is my uninformed opinon: herpaderp flerp lolz"
You just saved this thread, thank you |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
337
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Posted - 2012.07.29 14:20:00 -
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Lock out wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:put alts in plexes, play round WoT, repeat. could not be easier. Set up moon goo op, play multiple rounds of WoT, go offline for a week long vacation, make billions of isk. Because no one will hit your moon goo op and you won;t be forced to defend it, right ? Damn, wish I would've thought about it earlier. Regarding the OP, I partly agree with the statement, but there is one major flaw in the winners reaping the rewards of FW. The fact that anyone can put alts in, means that in practice not only the winners are partaking in the rewards, but everyone else IN EVE also do. Which is indeed a bit meh. Otoh, more isk for shiny is barely reason to complain, even if everyone gets it, it should only lead to nicer fights, what else can one do with fucktons of isk other than get them exploded in pvp ?
*fixed for more accuracy.
Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Silence iKillYouu
KA POW POW Inc
Late Night Alliance
181
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Posted - 2012.07.29 14:47:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:FW has really nothing to offer for older players, but for buddy alts it is excellent grinding zone, one alt can make couple billions isk / day so personally i am farming about 10b isk / day without any effort or risk.
put alts in plexes, play round WoT, repeat. could not be easier.
Asif mate. Show us a pic of your ten bill a day
http://fw-frontline.blogspot.com/ |
Ramon Sohei
URSALIS LOGISTICS GROUP
Villore Accords
8
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Posted - 2012.07.29 16:05:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:FW has really nothing to offer for older players, but for buddy alts it is excellent grinding zone, one alt can make couple billions isk / day so personally i am farming about 10b isk / day without any effort or risk.
put alts in plexes, play round WoT, repeat. could not be easier.
I usually don't agree with anything Bad Messenger says but he's right. 2-week old non-FW alt is making more money since the patch than my main has made in the last few years.
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