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Posted - 2010.08.30 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Hari Markkus
Originally by: Kwisatz Hadereach You often read how high sec l4s are OP for their risk. But how much exactly do you earn from other activities?
high sec mining - ? High sec l4s - 40-100 mil an hour FW l4s - ? Pirate l4s - ? 0.0 ratting - 75-100 mil an hour 0.0 mining - ? plexing - ?
Well, even as your little tablette stand just now, we can easily see that high sec level 4s are "OP for their risk". As there is next to no risk to running them.
Yeah thats pretty much bull****, heres why:
There's next to no risk running them in a golem with 30 million skillpoints and 10 billion isk fit.
There's a lot of risk running them with a few million skillpoints.
I ran highsec lvl 4s fine with about 7.5 million sp in Raven with all T2 or named modules. You don't need a 10b isk fit and 30 million sp to run Lvl 4s efficiently. In fact you can easily hit the 60-70m an hour with 15 million sp and maybe a 500mil CNR fit. (Faction BCUs+Cheap deadspace Booster+T2 everything else)
Personally, I'm not a fan of nerfing lvl 4s so much as making low-sec and 0.0 equivalent in terms risk vs. reward isk/hr ratio. Which right now, they really are not. The expenses of taking and holding space in null are quite substantial, in my limited null-sec experience (7 months in null between different corps/alliances), I've never gone more than two weeks without losing a PvP ship in null and I have been unable to hit consistently higher-end isk/hr figures such 75m+ because of logistics, corp operations, roaming gangs/afk cloakers and competition for resources.( belts being ratted out, sanctums and havens being farmed, and nearby complexes already scanned out and being soloed by someone else)
In the end, you really don't make any more money plexing/ratting/exploring in 0.0 than you do running high-efficency lvl 4s in high-sec. Which is a problem, because it's null and it's supposed to be more profitable. This is just my experience, YMMV.
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