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Atticus Fynch Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.08.31 13:53:00 - [1] What exactly do navy issue ships have over non-nay issue ships? Also, can I get a navy issue Hyperion CCP in next expansion? Pleeeze? BTW..what are these Guardian issue ships I hear about?
Matt Douglass	Posted - 2010.08.31 14:09:00 - [2] Trolling-radar alert
Pesky LaRue Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards	Posted - 2010.08.31 14:12:00 - [3] Originally by: Matt Douglass Trolling-radar alert Trolling? In a Nooma K'larr thread? Pfft, you must be high. .
Paeniteo Vengeance Imperium	Posted - 2010.08.31 15:04:00 - [4] When you fly a navy issue it just means you don't get ganked by concord. You can shoot at stations, stargates, other players who you don't have timers on in high sec and concord will overlook it because you appear to be part of a faction navy. You should try it, it's fun.
Penker	Posted - 2010.08.31 15:05:00 - [5] Originally by: Atticus Fynch What exactly do navy issue ships have over non-nay issue ships? Also, can I get a navy issue Hyperion CCP in next expansion? Pleeeze? BTW..what are these Guardian issue ships I hear about? Don't you have any RL ~~friends~~ acquaintance whom you can annoy? Your posts are getting dumber and dumber.
Esu Nahalas The Night Corporation	Posted - 2010.08.31 15:25:00 - [6] Originally by: Paeniteo When you fly a navy issue it just means you don't get ganked by concord. You can shoot at stations, stargates, other players who you don't have timers on in high sec and concord will overlook it because you appear to be part of a faction navy. You should try it, it's fun. Really? I thought flying a Navy ship only allows you to use smartbombs near gates in highsec.
Mr Epeen	Posted - 2010.08.31 15:59:00 - [7] Originally by: Esu Nahalas Originally by: Paeniteo When you fly a navy issue it just means you don't get ganked by concord. You can shoot at stations, stargates, other players who you don't have timers on in high sec and concord will overlook it because you appear to be part of a faction navy. You should try it, it's fun. Really? I thought flying a Navy ship only allows you to use smartbombs near gates in highsec. Both, actually. And as well, because you are flying a navy craft, the powers that be will give you a full insurance payout on the taxpayers back. That's right, free insurance. No need to even apply. It's automatic upon purchase of a navy issue ship. Mr Epeen
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.08.31 16:22:00 - [8] Also, CCP replaces the fitting if it dies. As mentioned the ship is under 100% insurance already. Thats why poeple use fleet issue ravens for suicide gank squads. When you say "fanboi" try to picture a fat man doing burlesque with 2 big ass fans that say CCP on one and HTFU on the other. Because that dude is me.
BrundleMeth Caldari Temporal Mechanics	Posted - 2010.08.31 16:26:00 - [9] So you don't know the difference but want a Navy Hyperion anyway? You know I removed you from my wheel one night when changing a tire. Lugnut...
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2010.08.31 16:37:00 - [10] Well you get free blood soaked tears. When we used to fly the Navy Megathron, it was cool and black and a pleasure to behold. Now it's camouflage because someone at CCP thinks this is EVietnam and when you fly it, your eyes bleed. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.

Atticus Fynch Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.08.31 17:30:00 - [11] Originally by: Mag's Well you get free blood soaked tears. When we used to fly the Navy Megathron, it was cool and black and a pleasure to behold. Now it's camouflage because someone at CCP thinks this is EVietnam and when you fly it, your eyes bleed. I was about to say, what is the point of jungle camouflage in outer space? It's dumb.
Sash Windu Gallente The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2010.08.31 17:33:00 - [12] Originally by: BrundleMeth So you don't know the difference but want a Navy Hyperion anyway? Yeah, its is bound to be better, navy stuff is always the bestest. Its like the Navy's F35 is a lot betterer than the normal one.

CCP Adida C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.31 17:41:00 - [13] Cleared trolling comments Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

Pheusia Gallente The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.08.31 17:44:00 - [14] Originally by: CCP Adida Cleared trolling comments You got all but 9 of them. Signed, Pheusia
Spartan Colonol	Posted - 2010.08.31 19:05:00 - [15] Navy ships offer slightly improved stats. A navy megathron has an extra low slot, greater drone bay, hitpoints, cpu, powegrid... navy ships are always better then the normal version. Try using the in game compare tool to avoid people trolling on your posts (so you dont have to ask here) Guardian Vexor It wouldnt hurt doing your own research, it isnt rocket science!
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor Elite	Posted - 2010.08.31 19:31:00 - [16] Originally by: Atticus Fynch Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 31/08/2010 18:53:09 What exactly do navy issue ships have over non-navy issue ships? Also, can I get a navy issue Hyperion CCP in next expansion? Pleeeze? BTW..what are these Guardian issue ships I hear about? EDIT: Can someone give me a straight answer without the dumbass comments, please. The reason why you are getting trolled is because 1.) you have just told us that you cannot read stats on the market 2.) You cannot be bothered to compare the two ships on EFT and 3.) you fly a Hyperion So that is fail x3, were you expecting something else when you posted in general?

CCP Adida C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.31 19:32:00 - [17] Locked as the OP added a trolling comment and there are just trolling replies. Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online


CCP Shadow C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.31 20:28:00 - [18] Moved to Ships and Modules. Also, trolling and off-topic replies have been removed. Carry on. -- Shadow

Plac3Holder	Posted - 2010.08.31 20:30:00 - [19] So, looking the two ships up either ingame or via the wiki was too hard?

CCP Adida C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.31 20:42:00 - [20] Cleared up another trolling comment after Shadow's guidance. Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online


Footoo Rama Gallente Cast-a-Ways.	Posted - 2010.08.31 21:16:00 - [21] You forget the fail Navy Domi, which really adds nothing over the reg domi because of the lower calibration in Sentry setups, and offers minor abilities in PvP for a massively larger pricetag... Really the Domi needed an extra mid another and still has fit issues with 425's when upgraded to a navy?? If it had another turret or low maybe... Heck even an extra utility high is better then a mid on a Domi. ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!"
Guillame Herschel Gallente NME1	Posted - 2010.08.31 21:57:00 - [22] Gallente FW corps have had a ball with a fleet of RR Navy Domis. 50% extra base sensor strength +1 extra mid means Falcon and Scorp tears all around. -- Sent from my douchePhone using Look@MEEEEE!
Cambarus Red Federation	Posted - 2010.09.01 05:14:00 - [23] Originally by: Footoo Rama You forget the fail Navy Domi, which really adds nothing over the reg domi because of the lower calibration in Sentry setups, and offers minor abilities in PvP for a massively larger pricetag... Really the Domi needed an extra mid another and still has fit issues with 425's when upgraded to a navy?? If it had another turret or low maybe... Heck even an extra utility high is better then a mid on a Domi. Confirming that a ship that really needs a shield tank to shine in pve and has huge fitting issues does not benefit from an extra mid and some extra pg.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2010.09.01 06:46:00 - [24] Navy ships have more damage, more tank, more fittings, more drones, more slots .. just MOAR! Guardian issue is only found in the chronicles of Eve and rich bastards ship collections. PS: Navy Hyperion would be overpowered, imagine it with all numbers higher than they are .. would exceed poor/mediocre fit Carriers in performance (as would all tier3 BS as navy hulls for that matter).
King Rothgar Amarrian Retribution	Posted - 2010.09.01 09:07:00 - [25] Well that's a stretch. I don't see a navy hyperion tanking 4000 dps (without triage), putting out 1000 dps, having 1M+ EHP, being able to remote rep 3000 raw HP every 5 seconds at 45km and fit 3 heavy neuts all at the same time. But yes, it would certainly be more powerful than the straight t1 version, which it obviously should be. Anyways, as said, the navy versions get an extra slot or two, +50% HP to armor, shield and structure and some extra sensor strength (25% or 50% bonus, not sure which). I'm not sure the navy domi adds much in pve over the standard but it's absolutely superior in pvp. Buffer is king in most pvp fights and the navy domi has +50% in that area. Sensor strength isn't to be dismissed nor is that extra slot too. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2010.09.01 09:59:00 - [26] Originally by: King Rothgar Well that's a stretch... Of course it is, exaggeration increases understanding But take a minute to look at what it would be able to do with increased fittings .. neutrons puts it at 1k dps with 2 MFS, extra low allows more resists giving the faction reps (you know they will be standard!) a staggering cycle, more drones, higher sensors .. it would be a Behemoth. Hyperion is insanely powerful as is just as the Abaddon, Maelstrom and to a lesser extent Rohk are .. adding Navy characteristics would push them way into the distance especially when considering the "low" prices on Navy hulls after farmers discovered FW missions.
Headerman	Posted - 2010.09.01 10:41:00 - [27] Usually 1 or 2 extra loadout lots, more CPU, grid, cap, speed etc. They are just better versions. I like the phoon fleet issue personally: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/41484-Typhoon-Fleet-Issue-1663-DPS-non-Overload.html
Hectaire Glade Forum Jockey	Posted - 2010.09.01 12:57:00 - [28] Originally by: Cambarus Originally by: Footoo Rama You forget the fail Navy Domi, which really adds nothing over the reg domi because of the lower calibration in Sentry setups, and offers minor abilities in PvP for a massively larger pricetag... Really the Domi needed an extra mid another and still has fit issues with 425's when upgraded to a navy?? If it had another turret or low maybe... Heck even an extra utility high is better then a mid on a Domi. Confirming that a ship that really needs a shield tank to shine in pve and has huge fitting issues does not benefit from an extra mid and some extra pg. Not quite, you can fit an AB on the navy version in addition to 2 omni's (along with the usual armor tanked Domi load out), not to be underestimated when crawling between gates on some missions. Not amazing, but certainly helpful.
Footoo Rama Gallente Cast-a-Ways.	Posted - 2010.09.01 17:18:00 - [29] Originally by: Hectaire Glade Originally by: Cambarus Originally by: Footoo Rama You forget the fail Navy Domi, which really adds nothing over the reg domi because of the lower calibration in Sentry setups, and offers minor abilities in PvP for a massively larger pricetag... Really the Domi needed an extra mid another and still has fit issues with 425's when upgraded to a navy?? If it had another turret or low maybe... Heck even an extra utility high is better then a mid on a Domi. Confirming that a ship that really needs a shield tank to shine in pve and has huge fitting issues does not benefit from an extra mid and some extra pg. Not quite, you can fit an AB on the navy version in addition to 2 omni's (along with the usual armor tanked Domi load out), not to be underestimated when crawling between gates on some missions. Not amazing, but certainly helpful. So for 700 million more I can do less DPS but gain an AB? Since the navy cannot fit 2x sentry rigs. ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!"
Hectaire Glade Forum Jockey	Posted - 2010.09.01 20:03:00 - [30] Originally by: Footoo Rama So for 700 million more I can do less DPS but gain an AB? Since the navy cannot fit 2x sentry rigs. A little bit more DPS does you no good when crawling 54K to a gate at 150 m/s. I'm not advocating it as the perfect mission ship, but for some missions, Navy Domi with AB fitted is probably one of the most efficient where you can't take something smaller to tank it. Fly the right ship for the right mission, no?



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