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Heritor
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:01:00 -
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Hi all
I spent ages carrying out lvl 4 blockade mission on my own only to find some sad git looting all my cans when I returned with replenished hull and structure etc. Is this an acceptable thing to do.
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Heritor
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:01:00 -
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Hi all
I spent ages carrying out lvl 4 blockade mission on my own only to find some sad git looting all my cans when I returned with replenished hull and structure etc. Is this an acceptable thing to do.
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Braaage
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:03:00 -
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Yes, my advice get someone to loot for u....
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Braaage
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:03:00 -
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Yes, my advice get someone to loot for u....
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Antic
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:05:00 -
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Possible to loot someone elses cans? yes definately. But acceptable to do so? Thats more dubious.
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Antic
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:05:00 -
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Possible to loot someone elses cans? yes definately. But acceptable to do so? Thats more dubious.
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XeroBeagle
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:52:00 -
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or in other words to wat Loptop said, people who cant be arsed to make there only money will steal from other, lame tbh
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XeroBeagle
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:52:00 -
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or in other words to wat Loptop said, people who cant be arsed to make there only money will steal from other, lame tbh
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.12.27 12:16:00 -
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If you found a fifty quid note lying around, would you take it to the police station as lost property? Or would you grab it and stuff it in your wallet as fast as you could?
And thats real life, so what harm is in it if you do it in Eve?
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.12.27 12:16:00 -
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If you found a fifty quid note lying around, would you take it to the police station as lost property? Or would you grab it and stuff it in your wallet as fast as you could?
And thats real life, so what harm is in it if you do it in Eve?
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Heritor
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Posted - 2004.12.27 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Heritor on 27/12/2004 12:51:22
 Originally by: LopTop
Originally by: Frost88
If you found a fifty quid note lying around, would you take it to the police station as lost property? Or would you grab it and stuff it in your wallet as fast as you could?
And thats real life, so what harm is in it if you do it in Eve?
Your absolutely right Frost, likewise if you see a mark with 50 bucks, and an opportunity to lift it from him, you take it.
Not somebody I'd care to meet in real life then 
ps.
The guy had honour and returned the loot to me. Thought that was worth a mention 
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Heritor
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Posted - 2004.12.27 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Heritor on 27/12/2004 12:51:22
Originally by: LopTop
Originally by: Frost88
If you found a fifty quid note lying around, would you take it to the police station as lost property? Or would you grab it and stuff it in your wallet as fast as you could?
And thats real life, so what harm is in it if you do it in Eve?
Your absolutely right Frost, likewise if you see a mark with 50 bucks, and an opportunity to lift it from him, you take it.
Not somebody I'd care to meet in real life then
ps.
The guy had honour and returned the loot to me. Thought that was worth a mention
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2004.12.27 12:50:00 -
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Looting someones can in EvE is a little like jaywalking, in theory its illegal but noone will enforce the law in this instance.
As for moraly acceptable, stealing in EvE is as morally wrong as stealing in real life, looting someones can can be compared to anything from finding money on the street to noticing someomnes put their wallet on the pub counter, our current society seems to think that if you get away with it then you have done nothing wrong.
This said you however must differentiate between illegal and breaking the rules in EvE, legal is roleplay, when pirates attack they are breaking the law, when a can thief loots he is breaking the law however nither of thise actions are against the rules of the game.
The only problem is that there is no good way available for the victim to retaliate. Hopefully however this will be fixed in time :)
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2004.12.27 12:50:00 -
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Looting someones can in EvE is a little like jaywalking, in theory its illegal but noone will enforce the law in this instance.
As for moraly acceptable, stealing in EvE is as morally wrong as stealing in real life, looting someones can can be compared to anything from finding money on the street to noticing someomnes put their wallet on the pub counter, our current society seems to think that if you get away with it then you have done nothing wrong.
This said you however must differentiate between illegal and breaking the rules in EvE, legal is roleplay, when pirates attack they are breaking the law, when a can thief loots he is breaking the law however nither of thise actions are against the rules of the game.
The only problem is that there is no good way available for the victim to retaliate. Hopefully however this will be fixed in time :)
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.12.27 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: LopTop
Heritor, I\'ll put it to you this way, if I see a can, I\'ll loot it, I dont care who\'s it is. You left them, its your problem, his profit.
LopTop, I\'ll put it to you this way, if I see a can thief, I\'ll shoot him, I don\'t care who\'s sorry arse it is. You wondered around in a system below 0.5, it is your problem, my profit.
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Posted - 2004.12.27 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: LopTop
Heritor, I\'ll put it to you this way, if I see a can, I\'ll loot it, I dont care who\'s it is. You left them, its your problem, his profit.
LopTop, I\'ll put it to you this way, if I see a can thief, I\'ll shoot him, I don\'t care who\'s sorry arse it is. You wondered around in a system below 0.5, it is your problem, my profit.
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Posted - 2004.12.27 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: LopTop
Originally by: Frost88
If you found a fifty quid note lying around, would you take it to the police station as lost property? Or would you grab it and stuff it in your wallet as fast as you could?
And thats real life, so what harm is in it if you do it in Eve?
Your absolutely right Frost, likewise if you see a mark with 50 bucks, and an opportunity to lift it from him, you take it.
Your absolutely right LopTop, likewise if i see a mark with shoot me on someone\'s head, and you actually have the opportunity to get your gun and make him look like cheese with your life roudns, you take it.
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Posted - 2004.12.27 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: LopTop
Originally by: Frost88
If you found a fifty quid note lying around, would you take it to the police station as lost property? Or would you grab it and stuff it in your wallet as fast as you could?
And thats real life, so what harm is in it if you do it in Eve?
Your absolutely right Frost, likewise if you see a mark with 50 bucks, and an opportunity to lift it from him, you take it.
Your absolutely right LopTop, likewise if i see a mark with shoot me on someone\'s head, and you actually have the opportunity to get your gun and make him look like cheese with your life roudns, you take it.
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Posted - 2004.12.27 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: LopTop
That wont be a problem Dreamy, I wont be going into .5 and under..  duh. You want some of this, me and concord will be waiting for your sorry ars3.
So if i get this right, like in real life there is a Police protecting people against murder and sorts. But according to you when you see 50$ on the floor, you can steal it.
Because that is what this is, his property was stolen. Not due he was leaving the location, not due the fact that he didnt paid attention to his property, but due to the fact that someone raced him to it and took what is not rightfully theirs.
Stealing in real life, here in the netherlands, can get you 3-6 years prison. Next time before you make rediculous assumptions and look like an total stupid arse, please think.. Then post.
I thank you, and the community with me.
May the force be with you.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.12.27 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: LopTop
That wont be a problem Dreamy, I wont be going into .5 and under.. duh. You want some of this, me and concord will be waiting for your sorry ars3.
So if i get this right, like in real life there is a Police protecting people against murder and sorts. But according to you when you see 50$ on the floor, you can steal it.
Because that is what this is, his property was stolen. Not due he was leaving the location, not due the fact that he didnt paid attention to his property, but due to the fact that someone raced him to it and took what is not rightfully theirs.
Stealing in real life, here in the netherlands, can get you 3-6 years prison. Next time before you make rediculous assumptions and look like an total stupid arse, please think.. Then post.
I thank you, and the community with me.
May the force be with you.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.12.27 13:44:00 -
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LopTop has just proven that the can thieves in EVE or those who sympathize are ... not smart. :D
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.12.27 13:44:00 -
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LopTop has just proven that the can thieves in EVE or those who sympathize are ... not smart. :D
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.12.27 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: LopTop
Edited by: LopTop on 27/12/2004 13:48:27
Originally by: DREAMWORKS
LopTop has just proven that the can thieves in EVE or those who sympathize are ... not smart. :D
Ah but that begs the question, If you get robbed by someone dumb, arent your dumber? Fool.
Cause you ppl are so smart throwing ore away, and not being fast enough to get your loot. Punks
Thats comming from a Punk who needs Concord protect his sorry arse. :D
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.12.27 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: LopTop
Edited by: LopTop on 27/12/2004 13:48:27
Originally by: DREAMWORKS
LopTop has just proven that the can thieves in EVE or those who sympathize are ... not smart. :D
Ah but that begs the question, If you get robbed by someone dumb, arent your dumber? Fool.
Cause you ppl are so smart throwing ore away, and not being fast enough to get your loot. Punks
Thats comming from a Punk who needs Concord protect his sorry arse. :D
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Lil' Bit
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Posted - 2004.12.27 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Lil' Bit on 27/12/2004 13:58:42
Hmm.. I hate to say this but..
Alot of people just leave their cans and never come back for them (I often do it myself, when developing new agents). This creates a bit of unwelcome lag, depending on how many cans are there, and how inferior your computer is (and mine is pretty inferior). The 1 hour+ despawn on cans can grow into a real problem in busy systems.
I'll often loot the cans just to clear up the lag. I rarely make anything resembling decent ISK from it, but even then it pays for my time a bit. And sometimes I'll do it because I have nothing else to do. But if I see someone warp in at the spot the cans are at, I'll dump all the loot I grabbed back out (yes even when there's a great mod in there) and let him know.
On the other hand, if someone flies in yelling that I stole his cans, and won't accept my explanation, I'll take them anyway, and to heck with him. I consider myself a campaigner against the idea of the Squeaky Wheel Getting the Grease. I Hate squeaky wheels. And the only way I'll grease them, is if they fall under my targetting recticle in a low security system. Their behaviour should never be encouraged, unless they are masochists, and believe that a good slap is encouragement.
Morale of the sotry: Being polite can go a long way. Taking what seems to be abandoned isn't always theft. You can take a couch out of a dumpster and not be charged by the police in real life, and this is no different. Be polite, and make it clear you did not intend to abandon your loot, and if the looter does not give up the loot, *then* you can start yelling.
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Lil' Bit
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Posted - 2004.12.27 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Lil' Bit on 27/12/2004 13:58:42
Hmm.. I hate to say this but..
Alot of people just leave their cans and never come back for them (I often do it myself, when developing new agents). This creates a bit of unwelcome lag, depending on how many cans are there, and how inferior your computer is (and mine is pretty inferior). The 1 hour+ despawn on cans can grow into a real problem in busy systems.
I'll often loot the cans just to clear up the lag. I rarely make anything resembling decent ISK from it, but even then it pays for my time a bit. And sometimes I'll do it because I have nothing else to do. But if I see someone warp in at the spot the cans are at, I'll dump all the loot I grabbed back out (yes even when there's a great mod in there) and let him know.
On the other hand, if someone flies in yelling that I stole his cans, and won't accept my explanation, I'll take them anyway, and to heck with him. I consider myself a campaigner against the idea of the Squeaky Wheel Getting the Grease. I Hate squeaky wheels. And the only way I'll grease them, is if they fall under my targetting recticle in a low security system. Their behaviour should never be encouraged, unless they are masochists, and believe that a good slap is encouragement.
Morale of the sotry: Being polite can go a long way. Taking what seems to be abandoned isn't always theft. You can take a couch out of a dumpster and not be charged by the police in real life, and this is no different. Be polite, and make it clear you did not intend to abandon your loot, and if the looter does not give up the loot, *then* you can start yelling.
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.12.27 14:03:00 -
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I'd say that it depend of the situation:
If player A find some loot cans and nobody around, he may think that player B didn't wanted to bother himself with them, same than NPC hunters who don't check cruiser cans.
If Plyer A loot cans right under the eyes of player B, then it's similar to ore thievery.
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.12.27 14:03:00 -
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I'd say that it depend of the situation:
If player A find some loot cans and nobody around, he may think that player B didn't wanted to bother himself with them, same than NPC hunters who don't check cruiser cans.
If Plyer A loot cans right under the eyes of player B, then it's similar to ore thievery.
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Delharon
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Posted - 2004.12.27 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: LopTop
Edited by: LopTop on 27/12/2004 13:48:27
Originally by: DREAMWORKS
LopTop has just proven that the can thieves in EVE or those who sympathize are ... not smart. :D
Ah but that begs the question, If you get robbed by someone dumb, arent your dumber? Fool.
Cause you ppl are so smart throwing ore away, and not being fast enough to get your loot. Punks
You know Laptop, you are pretty pathetic. This is either truly the way that you feel, or some sad, twisted plea for attention from an anonymous audience. If it is truly the way that you feel, then stay out of low sec space, becuase people will be hunting you. But then, if this is how you truly feel, that wouldn't be a problem, as you would be far too big a coward to venture out from under CONCORD's protection.
If this is a plea for attention, I feel really sorry for you. You must cry alot when you are alone...
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Delharon
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Posted - 2004.12.27 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: LopTop
Edited by: LopTop on 27/12/2004 13:48:27
Originally by: DREAMWORKS
LopTop has just proven that the can thieves in EVE or those who sympathize are ... not smart. :D
Ah but that begs the question, If you get robbed by someone dumb, arent your dumber? Fool.
Cause you ppl are so smart throwing ore away, and not being fast enough to get your loot. Punks
You know Laptop, you are pretty pathetic. This is either truly the way that you feel, or some sad, twisted plea for attention from an anonymous audience. If it is truly the way that you feel, then stay out of low sec space, becuase people will be hunting you. But then, if this is how you truly feel, that wouldn't be a problem, as you would be far too big a coward to venture out from under CONCORD's protection.
If this is a plea for attention, I feel really sorry for you. You must cry alot when you are alone...
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.12.27 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Heritor
I spent ages carrying out lvl 4 blockade mission on my own only to find some sad git looting all my cans when I returned with replenished hull and structure etc. Is this an acceptable thing to do.
Well, you could call it "bad manners", but there is not much you can do about it beside of having someone close to pick up the loot for you before someone else does, or litter blockade spawn place with secure containers. And, somehow the risk for (afk-)mining and combat missioning must be similar - am I not right?
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.12.27 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Heritor
I spent ages carrying out lvl 4 blockade mission on my own only to find some sad git looting all my cans when I returned with replenished hull and structure etc. Is this an acceptable thing to do.
Well, you could call it "bad manners", but there is not much you can do about it beside of having someone close to pick up the loot for you before someone else does, or litter blockade spawn place with secure containers. And, somehow the risk for (afk-)mining and combat missioning must be similar - am I not right?
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2004.12.27 14:52:00 -
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I actually appreciate most loot thieves since unless I popped a BS I never really pick up the loot. the loot tables are very poor now a days. loot thieves clean up space most of the time and so I'm happy. They are happy since they think they have gotten away with something naughty and so everyone is happy. loot thieving is a mostly harmless form of griefing (it is griefing only in empire since you can't do anything about)
so I say carry on and don't worry about losing a few cans now and again.
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2004.12.27 14:52:00 -
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I actually appreciate most loot thieves since unless I popped a BS I never really pick up the loot. the loot tables are very poor now a days. loot thieves clean up space most of the time and so I'm happy. They are happy since they think they have gotten away with something naughty and so everyone is happy. loot thieving is a mostly harmless form of griefing (it is griefing only in empire since you can't do anything about)
so I say carry on and don't worry about losing a few cans now and again.
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Stov'Akor
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Posted - 2004.12.27 15:09:00 -
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If a ship goes down, its cargo becomes salvage. Finders, keepers, loosers, weepers. Currently there are 2 ways to go about gettin revenge. Take a shot at the guy and hope you can kill him in seconds before either concord kills you or if the guy that took your stuff kills you. Or declare war on his corp. Thats really about all you can do. Even still you may not get him and the conciquences of declaring war may not be beneficial to you. Eve is a big place, with lots of places to hide if one doesn't wanna fight in the open. If he's in a NPC corp, then your only recourse is to try to get him in low sec space or try to whack him in empire. Is taking loot cans morally right? No I suppose not, but when has morals ever stopped a pirate? There are many tiers to piracy and being a "Salvage Collector" is just another one of them. Just as a side note, this lvl of piracy also takes the least amount of effort and creativity. Especially if the person you're takin the loot from doesn't care about it or make any effort to thwart your attempts. In anycase, just my 2 cents.
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Stov'Akor
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Posted - 2004.12.27 15:09:00 -
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If a ship goes down, its cargo becomes salvage. Finders, keepers, loosers, weepers. Currently there are 2 ways to go about gettin revenge. Take a shot at the guy and hope you can kill him in seconds before either concord kills you or if the guy that took your stuff kills you. Or declare war on his corp. Thats really about all you can do. Even still you may not get him and the conciquences of declaring war may not be beneficial to you. Eve is a big place, with lots of places to hide if one doesn't wanna fight in the open. If he's in a NPC corp, then your only recourse is to try to get him in low sec space or try to whack him in empire. Is taking loot cans morally right? No I suppose not, but when has morals ever stopped a pirate? There are many tiers to piracy and being a "Salvage Collector" is just another one of them. Just as a side note, this lvl of piracy also takes the least amount of effort and creativity. Especially if the person you're takin the loot from doesn't care about it or make any effort to thwart your attempts. In anycase, just my 2 cents.
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Cal Drago
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Posted - 2004.12.27 21:09:00 -
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This topic is slightly more complicated than "finders keepers". The other day, I had a lvl 3 Agent mission that put me 50km from one of the gates in the system. It was the "berserk" one. Right as I was finishing off the last spawn group, some dork in an interceptor flew to where I was and started looting all of the cans that were floating around. Granted, an interceptor can't hold much, but he could have easily grabbed a few valuable modules or the best stuff before I even finished the fight. Obviously there's not much I can do in a situation like that. I didn't leave the cans laying around while I went to get a hauler or anything. I never do. I was in the middle of the mission.
It's pretty sad, really. What's lame is, like Ore thievery, there's nothing I could do because shooting him would elicit a concord response. Aside from losing money on the deal, lets assume for the fun of it that it had been a mission where I was supposed to bring something back and he grabbed THAT item. Would that be griefing? I'd lose faction points with my agent, as well as the mission reward.
I'm just sick of people getting away with this crap because there is no risk for them. They know there is nothing we can do. This is something that needs to be addressed, IMO.
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Cal Drago
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Posted - 2004.12.27 21:09:00 -
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This topic is slightly more complicated than "finders keepers". The other day, I had a lvl 3 Agent mission that put me 50km from one of the gates in the system. It was the "berserk" one. Right as I was finishing off the last spawn group, some dork in an interceptor flew to where I was and started looting all of the cans that were floating around. Granted, an interceptor can't hold much, but he could have easily grabbed a few valuable modules or the best stuff before I even finished the fight. Obviously there's not much I can do in a situation like that. I didn't leave the cans laying around while I went to get a hauler or anything. I never do. I was in the middle of the mission.
It's pretty sad, really. What's lame is, like Ore thievery, there's nothing I could do because shooting him would elicit a concord response. Aside from losing money on the deal, lets assume for the fun of it that it had been a mission where I was supposed to bring something back and he grabbed THAT item. Would that be griefing? I'd lose faction points with my agent, as well as the mission reward.
I'm just sick of people getting away with this crap because there is no risk for them. They know there is nothing we can do. This is something that needs to be addressed, IMO.
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Cal Drago
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Posted - 2004.12.27 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Cal Drago on 27/12/2004 21:09:57
Oh, and you can call this whining if you want, but I was more irritated than upset. After all, My agent gave me a 6 mil bonus for the mission. How could I stay angry?  I will, however, be using a locator agent to hunt his ass down. It's all about righting a wrong.
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Cal Drago
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Posted - 2004.12.27 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Cal Drago on 27/12/2004 21:09:57
Oh, and you can call this whining if you want, but I was more irritated than upset. After all, My agent gave me a 6 mil bonus for the mission. How could I stay angry? I will, however, be using a locator agent to hunt his ass down. It's all about righting a wrong.
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Bubba Fett
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Posted - 2004.12.27 22:22:00 -
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I run missions now and then and don't like loot theives at all. That said, I do sometimes salvage loot cans that others have left. However I always try and make sure that they're actually abandoned.
I'll leave them sit for 15 to 20 minutes before starting to take loot. Then I'll ask on local if they belong to anyone. Then I start picking up cans. If anyone shows up before I'm done and says they're his cans I let him have them. Lots of People will even give you a reward for collecting it for them.
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Bubba Fett
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Posted - 2004.12.27 22:22:00 -
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I run missions now and then and don't like loot theives at all. That said, I do sometimes salvage loot cans that others have left. However I always try and make sure that they're actually abandoned.
I'll leave them sit for 15 to 20 minutes before starting to take loot. Then I'll ask on local if they belong to anyone. Then I start picking up cans. If anyone shows up before I'm done and says they're his cans I let him have them. Lots of People will even give you a reward for collecting it for them.
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Stov'Akor
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Posted - 2004.12.27 22:28:00 -
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I understand what you're sayin Cal, but you can't say there is "No risk" for the guy doin the "Salvage Collecting". Ya never know that another person is gonna do. The guy you're messin with might be having a bad day and decide to waste ya and hell with the concord attack. Ya might even get podded. Just as you could get podded anywhere at anytime in eve. Yes your chances of this happening are low, but ya never know. Its like flippin off some guy next to ya in traffic. Maybe he's havin a bad day and decides to pull a gun on ya waste ya right there. Is it gonna happen? Probably not, but it could. 
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Stov'Akor
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Posted - 2004.12.27 22:28:00 -
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I understand what you're sayin Cal, but you can't say there is "No risk" for the guy doin the "Salvage Collecting". Ya never know that another person is gonna do. The guy you're messin with might be having a bad day and decide to waste ya and hell with the concord attack. Ya might even get podded. Just as you could get podded anywhere at anytime in eve. Yes your chances of this happening are low, but ya never know. Its like flippin off some guy next to ya in traffic. Maybe he's havin a bad day and decides to pull a gun on ya waste ya right there. Is it gonna happen? Probably not, but it could.
Stov
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Cal Drago
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Posted - 2004.12.27 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Stov'Akor
I understand what you're sayin Cal, but you can't say there is "No risk" for the guy doin the "Salvage Collecting". Ya never know that another person is gonna do. The guy you're messin with might be having a bad day and decide to waste ya and hell with the concord attack. Ya might even get podded. Just as you could get podded anywhere at anytime in eve. Yes your chances of this happening are low, but ya never know. Its like flippin off some guy next to ya in traffic. Maybe he's havin a bad day and decides to pull a gun on ya waste ya right there. Is it gonna happen? Probably not, but it could.
Stov
Actually, Stov, I nearly did that exact thing. His loss would have been greater, as my BC was fully insured and his Interceptor had crap insurance. The problem was, he was officially a "friendly" to our alliance and I was on strict orders not to fire. Still, I had put a lot of time and effort into building that BC and I really liked the way I had that set up. You shouldn't have to **** it away to Concord just to get back at someone as petty as that.
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Cal Drago
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Posted - 2004.12.27 23:19:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Stov'Akor
I understand what you're sayin Cal, but you can't say there is "No risk" for the guy doin the "Salvage Collecting". Ya never know that another person is gonna do. The guy you're messin with might be having a bad day and decide to waste ya and hell with the concord attack. Ya might even get podded. Just as you could get podded anywhere at anytime in eve. Yes your chances of this happening are low, but ya never know. Its like flippin off some guy next to ya in traffic. Maybe he's havin a bad day and decides to pull a gun on ya waste ya right there. Is it gonna happen? Probably not, but it could.
Stov
Actually, Stov, I nearly did that exact thing. His loss would have been greater, as my BC was fully insured and his Interceptor had crap insurance. The problem was, he was officially a "friendly" to our alliance and I was on strict orders not to fire. Still, I had put a lot of time and effort into building that BC and I really liked the way I had that set up. You shouldn't have to **** it away to Concord just to get back at someone as petty as that.
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Vincent Lionhart
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Posted - 2004.12.28 00:27:00 -
[47]
Originally by: LopTop
You shouldn't have to **** it away to Concord just to get back at someone as petty as that.
Right, so then you wont attack him, and theres nothing you can do, that about the jest of it. Concord is in the game for a reason. Go do missions in 0.0 and stop complaining.
Is it that time of the month for you?
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Vincent Lionhart
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Posted - 2004.12.28 00:27:00 -
[48]
Originally by: LopTop
You shouldn't have to **** it away to Concord just to get back at someone as petty as that.
Right, so then you wont attack him, and theres nothing you can do, that about the jest of it. Concord is in the game for a reason. Go do missions in 0.0 and stop complaining.
Is it that time of the month for you?
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Selena 001
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Posted - 2004.12.28 02:24:00 -
[49]
Is it me, or does LopTop's rambling remind you of the little spoilt brat at the end of the street, who throws stuff at your house then runs back to "mommy"?
Stealing ore in 0.5 or above doesnt make you clever... unfortunately it just proves you can move ore from a can into a cargo hold and that people are pretty much powerless to stop you  (unless you steal from a suicidal maniac ), but hopefully thats getting sorted. Same thing for loot cans - you just have to judge by the situation provided (and the sec status of the system)
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*I only have 5 months left of 'knowing at all'... I had better put it to good use* |
Selena 001
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Posted - 2004.12.28 02:24:00 -
[50]
Is it me, or does LopTop's rambling remind you of the little spoilt brat at the end of the street, who throws stuff at your house then runs back to "mommy"?
Stealing ore in 0.5 or above doesnt make you clever... unfortunately it just proves you can move ore from a can into a cargo hold and that people are pretty much powerless to stop you (unless you steal from a suicidal maniac ), but hopefully thats getting sorted. Same thing for loot cans - you just have to judge by the situation provided (and the sec status of the system)
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*I only have 5 months left of 'knowing at all'... I had better put it to good use* |
RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.12.28 02:32:00 -
[51]
Do missions/mining in .4 or under. If someone steals your ore/loot, shoot them in the face.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2004.12.28 02:32:00 -
[52]
Do missions/mining in .4 or under. If someone steals your ore/loot, shoot them in the face.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.12.28 02:46:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 28/12/2004 02:50:03
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 28/12/2004 02:46:40
Originally by: RollinDutchMasters
Do missions/mining in .4 or under. If someone steals your ore/loot, shoot them in the face.
or just shoot them anyway, but dont get angry at loptop, get angry at the sorry ass educationel system, that spawned his kind
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.12.28 02:46:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 28/12/2004 02:50:03
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 28/12/2004 02:46:40
Originally by: RollinDutchMasters
Do missions/mining in .4 or under. If someone steals your ore/loot, shoot them in the face.
or just shoot them anyway, but dont get angry at loptop, get angry at the sorry ass educationel system, that spawned his kind
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Damaclese
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Posted - 2004.12.28 05:04:00 -
[55]
2 things really. #1 is there a way to block people from the forums so you dont have to waste your time reading the posts
#2 on several occasions newer players in eve have actually asked me if they could ave the blockade cans ill take the last 4 or 5 and say here you can have the rest and there pretty happy with that but since i ve got a second account i havent had to worry bout anyone intercepting loot idid how ever in a complex have a guy who was trying to edje into me smart bombs to try to kill me i reversed it and got him instead.
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Damaclese
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Posted - 2004.12.28 05:04:00 -
[56]
2 things really. #1 is there a way to block people from the forums so you dont have to waste your time reading the posts
#2 on several occasions newer players in eve have actually asked me if they could ave the blockade cans ill take the last 4 or 5 and say here you can have the rest and there pretty happy with that but since i ve got a second account i havent had to worry bout anyone intercepting loot idid how ever in a complex have a guy who was trying to edje into me smart bombs to try to kill me i reversed it and got him instead.
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Sergeant Spot
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Posted - 2004.12.28 06:04:00 -
[57]
Ok, everyone who thinks its ok to loot another person's mission loot, please get a dull knife and carve "I am an Idiot" into your forehead.
You loot someone's can without their permission, you stole from them PERIOD. No 'if', no 'maybe', no 'but'. Any other point of view is the opinion of a low intelligence idiot.
I can respect an honest thief that is not in noob corp and takes pride in his action. But not the idiots who spew the stupidity (and if your role play is to be an idiot, then mine is to call you an idiot...)
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Sergeant Spot
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Posted - 2004.12.28 06:04:00 -
[58]
Ok, everyone who thinks its ok to loot another person's mission loot, please get a dull knife and carve "I am an Idiot" into your forehead.
You loot someone's can without their permission, you stole from them PERIOD. No 'if', no 'maybe', no 'but'. Any other point of view is the opinion of a low intelligence idiot.
I can respect an honest thief that is not in noob corp and takes pride in his action. But not the idiots who spew the stupidity (and if your role play is to be an idiot, then mine is to call you an idiot...)
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2004.12.28 06:13:00 -
[59]
There is actually a very simple but taxing way to deal with the whole thing.
If the devs would make all cans restricted for say 30 min then there would be no problems.
What I meen is that when a can drops into space then only a set number of individuals may open the can.
1: the player who was in the ship blown/who ejected the can or any party members of the "owner" of the can at the time of creation.
2: the killing player or any party members of the killing player that was in the party at the time of the kill.
You could than have the can icon switch when its free for all to loot and have a timer in the info on the can so that a player can find out how long till the can is free for all.
Consideringa can remains in space for 1 hour this would allow the "aquierer" would have restricted access to it for a duration and later it would truly be adrift.
Now I know this Idea will sit wrong with a large numer of people who enjoy ore/can thivery but by tweaking the timer Im sure a fair amount of time could be arrived at... besides I dont really care what you think :)
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2004.12.28 06:13:00 -
[60]
There is actually a very simple but taxing way to deal with the whole thing.
If the devs would make all cans restricted for say 30 min then there would be no problems.
What I meen is that when a can drops into space then only a set number of individuals may open the can.
1: the player who was in the ship blown/who ejected the can or any party members of the "owner" of the can at the time of creation.
2: the killing player or any party members of the killing player that was in the party at the time of the kill.
You could than have the can icon switch when its free for all to loot and have a timer in the info on the can so that a player can find out how long till the can is free for all.
Consideringa can remains in space for 1 hour this would allow the "aquierer" would have restricted access to it for a duration and later it would truly be adrift.
Now I know this Idea will sit wrong with a large numer of people who enjoy ore/can thivery but by tweaking the timer Im sure a fair amount of time could be arrived at... besides I dont really care what you think :)
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2004.12.28 06:45:00 -
[61]
Get some alts... train for kessies. With 2 or 3 friends from corp. Blow him up.
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2004.12.28 06:45:00 -
[62]
Get some alts... train for kessies. With 2 or 3 friends from corp. Blow him up.
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Sleazy Cabbie
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Posted - 2004.12.28 09:55:00 -
[63]
When someone annoys me I say nothing. I right click his name, and set his standings to -10.
If I happen to be flying around sometime and find them in a vulnerable situation, I have my fun with them.
When I see cans floating around with nobody fighting, I just take them. I have no time for pettyness. So maybe I found something nice. Who cares.
Mechanics cut both ways. Yes, they serve to protect retards but they can also be made to serve you. Adapt and Overcome.
For God's sake, stop crying and be a man. I have more respect for a tool like loptop than all the boring kunts here talkin bout "morality."
STFU
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Sleazy Cabbie
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Posted - 2004.12.28 09:55:00 -
[64]
When someone annoys me I say nothing. I right click his name, and set his standings to -10.
If I happen to be flying around sometime and find them in a vulnerable situation, I have my fun with them.
When I see cans floating around with nobody fighting, I just take them. I have no time for pettyness. So maybe I found something nice. Who cares.
Mechanics cut both ways. Yes, they serve to protect retards but they can also be made to serve you. Adapt and Overcome.
For God's sake, stop crying and be a man. I have more respect for a tool like loptop than all the boring kunts here talkin bout "morality."
STFU
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PotatoHead
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Posted - 2004.12.28 12:34:00 -
[65]
Edited by: PotatoHead on 28/12/2004 12:35:06
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EDIT - Out of the two words, I spelled one wrong. So much for our edumacational system.
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Agreed Sleazy.
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PotatoHead
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Posted - 2004.12.28 12:34:00 -
[66]
Edited by: PotatoHead on 28/12/2004 12:35:06
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EDIT - Out of the two words, I spelled one wrong. So much for our edumacational system.
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Agreed Sleazy.
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2004.12.28 12:43:00 -
[67]
You know when im going gate to gate if i see a can lying around ill pick it up. or if i go to a belt or something and no-one else is there i dont mind getting the cans.
If i see someone doing a blockade mission i wont take the cans, thats not fair. but if i see some cans lying 150km from the gate and no-one is there i might or might not pick them up depending on the ship im in. If i knew they were coming back for em id leave em, but often people dont bother.
San.
Oh and i have taken a wallet to the police before. if i saw a 10 pound note lying around i dunno what id do. If i KNEW the police were honest id take a ú50 to the station.
San.
Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware.
Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
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0seeker0
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Posted - 2004.12.28 12:43:00 -
[68]
You know when im going gate to gate if i see a can lying around ill pick it up. or if i go to a belt or something and no-one else is there i dont mind getting the cans.
If i see someone doing a blockade mission i wont take the cans, thats not fair. but if i see some cans lying 150km from the gate and no-one is there i might or might not pick them up depending on the ship im in. If i knew they were coming back for em id leave em, but often people dont bother.
San.
Oh and i have taken a wallet to the police before. if i saw a 10 pound note lying around i dunno what id do. If i KNEW the police were honest id take a ú50 to the station.
San.
Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware.
Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
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Cal Drago
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Posted - 2004.12.28 17:58:00 -
[69]
Originally by: RollinDutchMasters
Do missions/mining in .4 or under. If someone steals your ore/loot, shoot them in the face.
I had actually considered this, but I'm using the highest quality agent that I can get with the corp I'm doing them for and he's located in a 0.8. I'd have to either start over from scratch with a new corp, or go back to a lower quality agent. I don't really see why I should do this just to get away from sad little monkeys who steal mission loot.
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Cal Drago
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Posted - 2004.12.28 17:58:00 -
[70]
Originally by: RollinDutchMasters
Do missions/mining in .4 or under. If someone steals your ore/loot, shoot them in the face.
I had actually considered this, but I'm using the highest quality agent that I can get with the corp I'm doing them for and he's located in a 0.8. I'd have to either start over from scratch with a new corp, or go back to a lower quality agent. I don't really see why I should do this just to get away from sad little monkeys who steal mission loot.
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Xadian
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Posted - 2004.12.28 18:44:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Fester Addams
There is actually a very simple but taxing way to deal with the whole thing.
If the devs would make all cans restricted for say 30 min then there would be no problems.
What I meen is that when a can drops into space then only a set number of individuals may open the can.
1: the player who was in the ship blown/who ejected the can or any party members of the "owner" of the can at the time of creation.
2: the killing player or any party members of the killing player that was in the party at the time of the kill.
You could than have the can icon switch when its free for all to loot and have a timer in the info on the can so that a player can find out how long till the can is free for all.
Consideringa can remains in space for 1 hour this would allow the "aquierer" would have restricted access to it for a duration and later it would truly be adrift.
Now I know this Idea will sit wrong with a large numer of people who enjoy ore/can thivery but by tweaking the timer Im sure a fair amount of time could be arrived at... besides I dont really care what you think :)
They tried that in EnB with rather...poor...results, your ideas work in theory, but you have one major problem. Kill-Stealing.
Say person A is doing a lvl 4 blockade. person B (in interceptor) swoops in when the BS spawns are into structure, pops them, and then person A has no access to the loot-cans. I like the system now, where you have access to all cans (but I dont condone, or practice, ore and loot theivery) in EnB it ended up being very very annoying, you would spend 5-6 minutes firing on a very rare Boss spawn, some dip---- would warp in and kill the last 2% dmg and get all the loot.
However, restricting cans might put people like LopTop in their place (since they actually have to shoot something to get the loot with your plan in place). Heres an example of how:
1. Person A engages NPC Blockade mission BSes
2. Person B waits nearby to swoop in on kills (since all NPC will focus on Person A)
3. Person A warps off
4. Person B (probably in a small frig/inty to get the speed necessary) gets locked by NPC (since they change to nearest target)
5. Person B gets killed
6. Person A comes back and finishes the spawn.
Albeit without the scrambler frigs there the theif could warp off, but having a bunch of NPC BS lock them would probably scare the crap out of the theives using Industrials to steal stuff.
Always hit the big red button whenever you get the chance.
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Xadian
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Posted - 2004.12.28 18:44:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Fester Addams
There is actually a very simple but taxing way to deal with the whole thing.
If the devs would make all cans restricted for say 30 min then there would be no problems.
What I meen is that when a can drops into space then only a set number of individuals may open the can.
1: the player who was in the ship blown/who ejected the can or any party members of the "owner" of the can at the time of creation.
2: the killing player or any party members of the killing player that was in the party at the time of the kill.
You could than have the can icon switch when its free for all to loot and have a timer in the info on the can so that a player can find out how long till the can is free for all.
Consideringa can remains in space for 1 hour this would allow the "aquierer" would have restricted access to it for a duration and later it would truly be adrift.
Now I know this Idea will sit wrong with a large numer of people who enjoy ore/can thivery but by tweaking the timer Im sure a fair amount of time could be arrived at... besides I dont really care what you think :)
They tried that in EnB with rather...poor...results, your ideas work in theory, but you have one major problem. Kill-Stealing.
Say person A is doing a lvl 4 blockade. person B (in interceptor) swoops in when the BS spawns are into structure, pops them, and then person A has no access to the loot-cans. I like the system now, where you have access to all cans (but I dont condone, or practice, ore and loot theivery) in EnB it ended up being very very annoying, you would spend 5-6 minutes firing on a very rare Boss spawn, some dip---- would warp in and kill the last 2% dmg and get all the loot.
However, restricting cans might put people like LopTop in their place (since they actually have to shoot something to get the loot with your plan in place). Heres an example of how:
1. Person A engages NPC Blockade mission BSes
2. Person B waits nearby to swoop in on kills (since all NPC will focus on Person A)
3. Person A warps off
4. Person B (probably in a small frig/inty to get the speed necessary) gets locked by NPC (since they change to nearest target)
5. Person B gets killed
6. Person A comes back and finishes the spawn.
Albeit without the scrambler frigs there the theif could warp off, but having a bunch of NPC BS lock them would probably scare the crap out of the theives using Industrials to steal stuff.
Always hit the big red button whenever you get the chance.
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2004.12.28 19:02:00 -
[73]
Poor poor poor Cal D and Sarge S......still *****ing about people taking your stuff. Maybe you should play SWG or Pony-Ta Princesses. No one will take your precious veldspar or small light electrons there.
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2004.12.28 19:02:00 -
[74]
Poor poor poor Cal D and Sarge S......still *****ing about people taking your stuff. Maybe you should play SWG or Pony-Ta Princesses. No one will take your precious veldspar or small light electrons there.
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Cal Drago
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Posted - 2004.12.28 22:15:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Ryctor
Poor poor poor Cal D and Sarge S......still *****ing about people taking your stuff. Maybe you should play SWG or Pony-Ta Princesses. No one will take your precious veldspar or small light electrons there.
Don't mind him everybody. He's the sad product of inbreeding.
Hey Ryc old buddy...still hanging around Nonni stealing SCORDITE?
You can't blame the guy for defending looting of ore and mission cans. After all, if they implement a flagging system, he'll have no reason to play. He's not man enough for combat.
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Cal Drago
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Posted - 2004.12.28 22:15:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Ryctor
Poor poor poor Cal D and Sarge S......still *****ing about people taking your stuff. Maybe you should play SWG or Pony-Ta Princesses. No one will take your precious veldspar or small light electrons there.
Don't mind him everybody. He's the sad product of inbreeding.
Hey Ryc old buddy...still hanging around Nonni stealing SCORDITE?
You can't blame the guy for defending looting of ore and mission cans. After all, if they implement a flagging system, he'll have no reason to play. He's not man enough for combat.
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Severus Trajan
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Posted - 2004.12.29 10:21:00 -
[77]
Originally by: DREAMWORKS
Because that is what this is, his property was stolen. Not due he was leaving the location, not due the fact that he didnt paid attention to his property, but due to the fact that someone raced him to it and took what is not rightfully theirs.
Actually, by this logic I'd say the can belongs to the poor Gurista sod (or whomever) he shot. So we are all can-thieves in the end, aren't we... 
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Severus Trajan
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Posted - 2004.12.29 10:21:00 -
[78]
Originally by: DREAMWORKS
Because that is what this is, his property was stolen. Not due he was leaving the location, not due the fact that he didnt paid attention to his property, but due to the fact that someone raced him to it and took what is not rightfully theirs.
Actually, by this logic I'd say the can belongs to the poor Gurista sod (or whomever) he shot. So we are all can-thieves in the end, aren't we...
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.12.29 11:09:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Xadian
Originally by: Fester Addams
There is actually a very simple but taxing way to deal with the whole thing.
If the devs would make all cans restricted for say 30 min then there would be no problems.
What I meen is that when a can drops into space then only a set number of individuals may open the can.
1: the player who was in the ship blown/who ejected the can or any party members of the "owner" of the can at the time of creation.
2: the killing player or any party members of the killing player that was in the party at the time of the kill.
You could than have the can icon switch when its free for all to loot and have a timer in the info on the can so that a player can find out how long till the can is free for all.
Consideringa can remains in space for 1 hour this would allow the "aquierer" would have restricted access to it for a duration and later it would truly be adrift.
Now I know this Idea will sit wrong with a large numer of people who enjoy ore/can thivery but by tweaking the timer Im sure a fair amount of time could be arrived at... besides I dont really care what you think :)
They tried that in EnB with rather...poor...results, your ideas work in theory, but you have one major problem. Kill-Stealing.
Say person A is doing a lvl 4 blockade. person B (in interceptor) swoops in when the BS spawns are into structure, pops them, and then person A has no access to the loot-cans. I like the system now, where you have access to all cans (but I dont condone, or practice, ore and loot theivery) in EnB it ended up being very very annoying, you would spend 5-6 minutes firing on a very rare Boss spawn, some dip---- would warp in and kill the last 2% dmg and get all the loot.
However, restricting cans might put people like LopTop in their place (since they actually have to shoot something to get the loot with your plan in place). Heres an example of how:
1. Person A engages NPC Blockade mission BSes
2. Person B waits nearby to swoop in on kills (since all NPC will focus on Person A)
3. Person A warps off
4. Person B (probably in a small frig/inty to get the speed necessary) gets locked by NPC (since they change to nearest target)
5. Person B gets killed
6. Person A comes back and finishes the spawn.
Albeit without the scrambler frigs there the theif could warp off, but having a bunch of NPC BS lock them would probably scare the crap out of the theives using Industrials to steal stuff.
If any1 ever started doing this id simply warp out and wait for them to get wtf pwned by the NPCs. In the blockade mission, which afaik, is the only one fought at a gate, the NPCs only attack the mission runner or any1 else that aggros them. Someones interceptor/frig/cruiser wouldnt last very long to 2-3 BS shooting at them
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.12.29 11:09:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Xadian
Originally by: Fester Addams
There is actually a very simple but taxing way to deal with the whole thing.
If the devs would make all cans restricted for say 30 min then there would be no problems.
What I meen is that when a can drops into space then only a set number of individuals may open the can.
1: the player who was in the ship blown/who ejected the can or any party members of the "owner" of the can at the time of creation.
2: the killing player or any party members of the killing player that was in the party at the time of the kill.
You could than have the can icon switch when its free for all to loot and have a timer in the info on the can so that a player can find out how long till the can is free for all.
Consideringa can remains in space for 1 hour this would allow the "aquierer" would have restricted access to it for a duration and later it would truly be adrift.
Now I know this Idea will sit wrong with a large numer of people who enjoy ore/can thivery but by tweaking the timer Im sure a fair amount of time could be arrived at... besides I dont really care what you think :)
They tried that in EnB with rather...poor...results, your ideas work in theory, but you have one major problem. Kill-Stealing.
Say person A is doing a lvl 4 blockade. person B (in interceptor) swoops in when the BS spawns are into structure, pops them, and then person A has no access to the loot-cans. I like the system now, where you have access to all cans (but I dont condone, or practice, ore and loot theivery) in EnB it ended up being very very annoying, you would spend 5-6 minutes firing on a very rare Boss spawn, some dip---- would warp in and kill the last 2% dmg and get all the loot.
However, restricting cans might put people like LopTop in their place (since they actually have to shoot something to get the loot with your plan in place). Heres an example of how:
1. Person A engages NPC Blockade mission BSes
2. Person B waits nearby to swoop in on kills (since all NPC will focus on Person A)
3. Person A warps off
4. Person B (probably in a small frig/inty to get the speed necessary) gets locked by NPC (since they change to nearest target)
5. Person B gets killed
6. Person A comes back and finishes the spawn.
Albeit without the scrambler frigs there the theif could warp off, but having a bunch of NPC BS lock them would probably scare the crap out of the theives using Industrials to steal stuff.
If any1 ever started doing this id simply warp out and wait for them to get wtf pwned by the NPCs. In the blockade mission, which afaik, is the only one fought at a gate, the NPCs only attack the mission runner or any1 else that aggros them. Someones interceptor/frig/cruiser wouldnt last very long to 2-3 BS shooting at them
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2004.12.29 11:12:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich
but dont get angry at loptop, get angry at the sorry ass educationel system, that spawned his kind
You get a cookie for that one!
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2004.12.29 11:12:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich
but dont get angry at loptop, get angry at the sorry ass educationel system, that spawned his kind
You get a cookie for that one!
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Enech Felbar
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Posted - 2004.12.29 11:57:00 -
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I'm at work and haven't had time to read all 3 pages but here's what I think..
I am certainly no Loot thief or any other kind of thief but when on agent missions I often see several cans left behind by someone say 50 - 60km away from my encounter and once i've cleared up my own mess I have no quarms at all about zooming over and cleaning up the other cans.
As has been said before, if someone turns up and politly explains that it was thier loot and they just went to get fixed up well thats fine, they can have it back without question. Personaly I get my loot before i leave to get fixed up and if i did I kinda feel i have waved my right to claim the loot.
I would never go and start taking loot from cans when someone is there already picking it up, thats definatly out of order but if your not there I find it hard to believe theres a case to cry thief.
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Enech Felbar
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Posted - 2004.12.29 11:57:00 -
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I'm at work and haven't had time to read all 3 pages but here's what I think..
I am certainly no Loot thief or any other kind of thief but when on agent missions I often see several cans left behind by someone say 50 - 60km away from my encounter and once i've cleared up my own mess I have no quarms at all about zooming over and cleaning up the other cans.
As has been said before, if someone turns up and politly explains that it was thier loot and they just went to get fixed up well thats fine, they can have it back without question. Personaly I get my loot before i leave to get fixed up and if i did I kinda feel i have waved my right to claim the loot.
I would never go and start taking loot from cans when someone is there already picking it up, thats definatly out of order but if your not there I find it hard to believe theres a case to cry thief.
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