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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
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Posted - 2010.09.02 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Alistair Cononach
CVA may be many things, but a "Slaver Alliance" isn't one of them, in my insiders view. Sure, we have a few folks who spout the usual Empire Company Line, but it's just talk. No one in CVA cares about Slavers or Slavery, one way or the other.
Truly a wonderful moment. This is not the CVA I fought against so many years ago. This is why I have no interest in fighting you today.
Originally by: Alistair Cononach
If you were fighting for Slaves Freedom, if that were your true goal, youĈd be in Amarr, Jita and the other hubs, placing large buyout orders for the Slaves sold on the Market, and war-deccing the biggest Mission-runner Corporations, the obvious and unquestionable leading source of Slaves on the Market.
It has always been against Thrace Inc policy to purchase slaves. This merely puts kredits in the hands of slavers and encourages the trade. Last time I checked it was also against Ushra'Khan policy.
However, I do recall a number of campaigns we carried out in the past where we did declare war on numerous Amarr corps with high Imperial standing. When they were unavailable for combat we spent our time in Amarr pulling slaves out of the burning wrecks of Imperial trade convoys. Serving with the Tribal Liberation Force makes such forays a bit trickier these days.
I wish D'K all the best in this campaign but my place is in the TLF and helping to unite the tribes under Shakor's banner. Fly free Brothers.
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Kazzzi
Amarr Minmatar Ship Construction Services Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.09.02 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Telemicus Thrace When they were unavailable for combat we spent our time in Amarr pulling slaves out of the burning wrecks of Imperial trade convoys.
I will not release details, but I will confirm that this has a level of operational priority for this campaign. |
Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard
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Posted - 2010.09.02 10:10:00 -
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This post will most likely be removed, but I will post it anyway. Someone has got to point out the obvious.
What is the reason of Damu'Khonde's fight against Amarr? Slavery, of course. Now, there is only one way you are going to accomplish the release of all slaves, and that is if you convince someone at CCP to do it. Just letting you know so that you wont keep banging your head against the wall for no reason.
Your fight against the CVA, on the grounds that they are loyal to the Amarr empire is a sad occurance. Truth is that the REAL major problem, that of player created piracy and NBSI, is BY FAR a much more accute concern to those who have a SINCERE desire to fight injustice. CVA is one of the greatest alliances and occurances in the history of New Eden. They kept Providence NRDS for over 3 years. They gave others hope that there can be such a thing as civilization, OUTSIDE the CCP imposed, godlike restrictions. Now, if you could really appreciate this, you would be ashamed for fighting them, and you would do all what you can to fight for the enforcement of NRDS. Get your priorities straight.
There is only one true way to WIN EVE, and that is to DEFEAT the piracy empires and NBSI hordes that fill the rim of the galaxy to the brink. ________________________
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Flashh Gorden
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.09.02 10:43:00 -
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Oh ok so you think NRDS policy is all about wealth and greed do you. I Thought UK operated that very same system for a long time. Are you greedy if you don't shoot your own Corp mates too or how about the family? Why should you be forced to commit and act of violence on some one to prove your not greedy?
Owning vast areas of space and shutting out the public is alot more greedy don't you think? As for shooting at nuetrals on space you don't own that's plain old piracy.
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Kazzzi
Amarr Minmatar Ship Construction Services Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.09.02 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Flashh Gorden Oh ok so you think NRDS policy is all about wealth and greed do you.
When it's run by slavers, sure.
Originally by: Flashh Gorden As for shooting at nuetrals on space you don't own that's plain old piracy.
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Dame Death
Minmatar The Rising Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.09.02 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kade Jeekin .
Same old slimy bull. Squash them.
What he said
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Khanid Grime
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Posted - 2010.09.02 11:41:00 -
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DK' s problem is they have been fighting so long it's become the norm and the reasons for war long forgotten you fight because it's the traditional thing to do. The fact you see any other non violent action as shameless profit making is the proof in the pudding. You fight so long you despise any form of civilisation.
Even if CVA did not exist even if the Amarr empire did not exist you would still be doing what you do now. In fact if there were only a handful people in the entire univirse you would still find some excuse for shooting them.
By all means carry on with your death and destruction it's your choice,but don't claim to be doing it for any reason other than your own love of violence. You do nothing for the good of your race or slavery you can't even identify who or where such people are.
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Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard
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Posted - 2010.09.02 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kazzzi
Originally by: Flashh Gorden As for shooting at nuetrals on space you don't own that's plain old piracy.
Yaaarr
Does it get much more clear? ________________________
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Kazzzi
Amarr Minmatar Ship Construction Services Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.09.02 12:20:00 -
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Edited by: Kazzzi on 02/09/2010 12:24:05
Originally by: Khanid Grime
Even if CVA did not exist even if the Amarr empire did not exist you would still be doing what you do now. In fact if there were only a handful people in the entire univirse you would still find some excuse for shooting them.
I wish I could retire someday and find a legitimate unscrupulous hobby, but until all humanity is free, I'll still have work to do.
Originally by: Khanid Grime You do nothing for the good of your race or slavery you can't even identify who or where such people are.
Tell that to the hundred slaves my fleet freed from Imperial transports just hours ago. I know the freedom of only one hundred people may not sound like it matters in the grand scheme of things, but it greatly matters to them, and our work is not over yet. |
Konoch
Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.02 12:49:00 -
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"No! NO I'LL WRITE IT!"
"Goddamn it Konoch this is too much!"
"Kuseka i get it goddamn it, but leave it to me! You'll just make things worse!"
*sigh* Now that i'm able to turn my attention to this fully. This has only managed to set off one of my fellow members. A former member of PXIN and forced to watch as so much fell apart around him. He escaped providence days before the final hammer-stroke fell on PXIN. I've been asked to relay the following message. This has been cleaned up for the most part.
Quote: 'The forces of anarchy guised in the garb of freedom have gone too far. The posts in this so called resumption of hostilities have shown the true colors of these renegade terrorist Minmatar. I have stood by long enough. Action must and will be taken. For the memory of friends and for what truly existed. The time has come to strike against these terrorists once and for all. I will not care that it is solo or with my friends. But i will strike against those have destroyed so much under a false banner.
I am Gallente. And i come for my due pound of flesh.'
I should note that Kuseka Adama is at this moment typing up his resignation should his superiors in Northstar and in R.A.G.E. decide this is not a worthwhile mission I'm trying to talk him off that particular ledge but i don't think I'll be able to. This is personal to him on a very deep level. I personally dont care too much one way or the other. But The last thing that needs to happen here is to inflame the situation further. I dont know what will happen next but honestly if Red and DEATH dont give us any real action. RAGE might just decide what the hell especially since PXIN is now a member of our conglomerate of factions. My advice? Back off the freedom talk.
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Kazzzi
Amarr Minmatar Ship Construction Services Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.09.02 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Konoch Back off the freedom talk.
As long as even just one single lone warrior in a Rifter still lives, freedom will never be silenced. |
Hori To
Masuat'aa Matari
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Posted - 2010.09.02 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Konoch My advice? Back off the freedom talk.
Or you'll do what?
Burn in a fire |
Konoch
Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.02 13:49:00 -
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Edited by: Konoch on 02/09/2010 13:49:48
Originally by: Kazzzi
Originally by: Konoch Back off the freedom talk.
As long as even just one single lone warrior in a Rifter still lives, freedom will never be silenced.
The problem you have is that you're not about freedom. You use that banner that lofty goal to disguise your blatent acts of terror against capsuleers. You dont want freedom. You want blood. The blood of his friends. In his eyes you are nothing more than homicidal maniacs who just delight in the killing of those that do not think like you do. And the actions in this discussion have proven that succinctly. What will i do? Nothing
What will the guy i'm speaking for do? Turn all his attention to you. Throw away his standing in a high level alliance and launch a one man campaign if thats what it takes to see you all burn. He's quite determined
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Spark's
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.09.02 13:50:00 -
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CVA have always been self serving. Woot! Just here, stealing your killz |
Hori To
Masuat'aa Matari
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Posted - 2010.09.02 14:11:00 -
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Edited by: Hori To on 02/09/2010 14:12:06
Originally by: Konoch
The problem you have is that you're not about freedom. You use that banner that lofty goal to disguise your blatent acts of terror against capsuleers. You dont want freedom. You want blood. The blood of his friends. In his eyes you are nothing more than homicidal maniacs who just delight in the killing of those that do not think like you do. And the actions in this discussion have proven that succinctly. What will i do? Nothing
What will the guy i'm speaking for do? Turn all his attention to you. Throw away his standing in a high level alliance and launch a one man campaign if thats what it takes to see you all burn. He's quite determined
Well, not very good with words. But I'll try to explain my feelings on this matter.
Freedom is important to me. More important than life. CVA did run a "civilization" in provi, and it worked well. For the rich capsuleer elite. Sadly alot of people pinned their hopes on CVA's backs. People who don't give a toss one way or the other about slavery. After 3 years we finally, with alot of help, managed to drive out CVA from Provi. Now we follow them into their homes. The cost in human lives have been high, for both freedom fighters and slavers. Some day, the indignity that is slavery will end, and I sincerely hope the amarr will do it from within, until then we will do our best to punish them, and remind them that they are not alone in the universe. And to be perfectly honest, if I could, I'd glass Amarr prime, I hope this sets things into perspective.
Your friends efforts in ending this could be better spent in an other way. As your friend I hope you do your best to guide him on the right path, like ending the pointless conflict between gallente and caldari.
Apologies for the rambliness. |
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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.02 14:30:00 -
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removed OOC reponse
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Rogue Steel
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.09.02 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Konoch
What will the guy i'm speaking for do? Turn all his attention to you. Throw away his standing in a high level alliance and launch a one man campaign if thats what it takes to see you all burn. He's quite determined
For such bravery and ferocity, he would be respected. |
mrmooo
Caldari Pentag Blade Care Factor
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Posted - 2010.09.02 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Spark's CVA have always been self serving.
If CVA were so they would have taken the deal offered to them after the defeat in D-G Contrast and compare with Atlas
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Flashh Gorden
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.09.07 10:01:00 -
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Seems the war has esculated even further. Lets see how many of your allies back you up now.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.07 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Flashh Gorden Seems the war has esculated even further. Lets see how many of your allies back you up now.
I wonder what Caldari Provisions' stake in this conflict is?
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Flashh Gorden
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.09.07 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Flashh Gorden Seems the war has esculated even further. Lets see how many of your allies back you up now.
I wonder what Caldari Provisions' stake in this conflict is?
if you read the entire thread before spouting your words of wisdom you would know my stake in this Is personal and nothing to do with my Corp. I am not going to explain myself again for those who cannot be bothered to read back a page or two.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.08 01:10:00 -
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Your lip-service was noted, yes.
I hope to see you join the fight. Near-annonymous sniping at our enemies serves no one.
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Flashh Gorden
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.09.08 08:35:00 -
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Im not sure why you single me out Garreck I count many in this thread who are neither CVA or DK Does this mean no one else is entitiled to an opinion?
I think the war and fall of Providance has effected alot more people than just you and your Alliance. Sniping from a distance? I dont know what you mean by this If I feel strongly about some thing I will speak up and have my say. This is after all a public channel not private one.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.08 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Flashh Gorden Im not sure why you single me out Garreck
Originally by: Flashh Gorden If I feel strongly about some thing I will speak up and have my say.
I single you out because I prefer people who "do" because they feel strongly about something, not "have their say" because they feel strongly about something.
If the dream of an Amarrian Providence is to be realized, we need a lot more doing and a lot less saying. Especially from those who claim to hate the current regime and claim to have prefered "the old way."
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Courtesan Anna
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Posted - 2010.09.09 00:46:00 -
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This DK pestilence shall be wiped from history as fast as it was created.
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Flashh Gorden
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.09.09 06:27:00 -
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Well this is a speaking channel unless im mistaken. Everything written here is just words including yours. I dont care what you prefer Garrack thats up too you that still does not give you the right to get personal and make comments like that about somone you do not even know.
Space is where things get done not here. Let people have their say escpecialy when it is in fact supporting your cause.
Now I live infact one jump from your own base of misaba atm and I adhear to the NRDS policy so I will gladly engage any DK I see in the area. Yes I am looking into joining a corp down this way and did consider CVA but obiously thats looking less likely by the day.
Now leave me alone to express my opinions with witch you may agree or disagree without the need for personal attacks.
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Koronakesh
Amarr Ba.theen Aljannatal Asaakitah
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Posted - 2010.09.09 14:25:00 -
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Hurry up and die, Garreck. And take the rest of your Imperial masters with you.
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Dunn Idaho
Caldari Core Impulse
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Posted - 2010.09.09 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Koronakesh Hurry up and die, Garreck. And take the rest of your Imperial masters with you.
Such anger, you must be mad.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.09 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Garreck on 09/09/2010 15:57:46
Originally by: Flashh Gorden Now leave me alone to express my opinions with witch you may agree or disagree without the need for personal attacks.
Hah! You should see the abuse I dish out should I catch one of my own taking spineless swipes on this Summit or in any other public channel...
I wish you well, Flashh, but I will call out hollow sentiment anywhere I see it, whether it's directed at me, my organization, or even my enemies. Call it a pet peeve.
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DeadDuck
Amarr Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.10 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jessie Arr We are Damu'Khonde, and still we come for our people.
Well, your people will have to wait a bit more I guess...
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