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Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 11:20:00 - [1] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox OK, here I am to ask CCP why they won't introduce a mechanism, a skillset that players can use to remove nuisance Cloakers who are only there to ruin the gameplay of other players who are trying to enjoy this game that they pay good money for? Come on CCP, surely you can admit that almost everyone is sick and tired of being locked down by some griefer in a system when in this game there are many ways available to give us skillsets that can make the balance a little more even. Cloaking griefers are not players in the whole sense of the word. They are spoiling the game's strategy because in itself afk cloaking is a strategy that cannot be beaten/defeated at all and that is unfair. You have balanced many other things in the game and for every armor or shield or power supply there is a way to defeat or enhance, but when it comes to cloaking and going afk nothing can be done and many players are throwing good money after bad on this game to log in and find yet again gametime wasted day after day by the same old cloaky-griefers. DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS!! PLEASE!!!! Raj. Straight up... You're a whiny b*tch and posting this on public forums, the eve general forums none the less just shows how spineless and a waste of space you are. Don't like the cloaky guy in your system, get in a ship bait him with a fleet of your friends. From your US TZ FC.. GL HF.
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 11:25:00 - [2] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Mr SmartGuy Every time I see something from the troll/r and at the end, asking CCP to commit to excelence to cover anything else. It's a fair request.. But please your donations are attracting more reads per reply. I just want an unfair game mechanic balanced out. Why wouldn't you? (No, dont bore me...) Raj. It's not unfair dude. Do it back to them they have ratting systems they wish the cloaky guy wasn't in. Bait them... when they cov-ops bridge, mess em up (or get messed up). But try... coming to the forums and whining about it won't change anything. Getting in a combat ship and shooting another ship will.
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 11:35:00 - [3] Edited by: Zagdul on 02/09/2010 11:35:22 Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer Edited by: Dr Sheepbringer on 02/09/2010 11:28:44 Keep a looksie on your directional scanner. When you see a probe or a ship. Get out. Simple. I imagine you are talking about missions, because if you are not...stop whining it's eve. That doesn't work. Anomalies can be scanned with a system scanner, they don't require a probe. Some ships can warp cloaked... these ships can also light covert cynos which can't be jammed. The only defense to this is to amass a fleet large/powerful enough to counter the drop. Which isn't hard, if you try. There are some balancing issues I wouldn't mind addressing... 1. You cannot refuel a blops ship who's bridge is active. 2. You cannot warp cloaked when you have a cov ops generator equipped. These two things would be nice. This way you can try to predict what is coming through and at least make an attempt to counter it.
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 12:23:00 - [4] Originally by: Hannibal Ord There are very very few single cloaking ships that actually are a threat to any one single ship. Even if the ship decloaks and wants to engage you, the likelihood of you escaping is very high, because of the time to target etc. If you know it's there and you must carebear then just be on your toes. A group of cloaking ships, then yes that is threatening, but no more than a group of non cloakies in your system. It's always blown out of proportion how dangerous they are to ships. If I'm ratting sec status up, I'm much more scared of a very obvious Vagabond or Cynabal entering system than I am of something like a pilgrim or even the for-mentioned HAC's with cloaks fitted. And if you are carebearing, then the ship you are using, if threats exist, should be cheap enough that you can make the money to replace it in very little time at all plus some more. Or you carebear in a ship that would be pretty hard to kill or at least have a fighting chance, like a nano cane or something, rather than an active tanked pure PVE fitted ship. Most cloak fitted ships have only a small selection of ship types they can actually attack and destroy easily on their own. Fly such things and they don't decloak to attack you. You're forgetting the blops bridge. While OP is whining and needs to HTFU, don't make it more simple than it is. A stealth bomber can quickly turn into 3-4 blackops with 5-6 recons and a few stealth bombers to boot. I've done it with a fleet of about 20 stealth bombers. We just about insta popped a tengu. This is why I'm against OP's rant... I do it also, I'm in his alliance and this is one of the most fun things to do in this game.
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:48:00 - [5] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Edited by: Rajheen Orlox on 02/09/2010 14:00:35 Edited by: Rajheen Orlox on 02/09/2010 13:59:13 Originally by: Zagdul Edited by: Zagdul on 02/09/2010 11:29:24 Don't like the cloaky guy in your system, get in a ship bait him with a fleet of your friends. From your US TZ FC.. GL HF. Thats Rich!! Because you cant (and don't..) do anything either! I repeat there is NO way to defeat a Cloaky Greifer and I will pay any one a billion isk to anyone who can PROVE that there is a game method that works to reveal a random Cloaky Griefers position. Come on clever guys your so abundant in here. Now tell us all what your empty arguments are really worth I have 9 bil in my account and want to give a bil away. No silly stupid comments or ignorance that will never work just a proven method. Because there is none. You cannot defeat something as unbalanced as Cloaky griefing. Raj. 1. Join a fleet. You may find your words are a little empty. 2. To counter, get some people in the alliance to bait them. We've done this before, we got our asses kicked but we tried. Learned a few things also and will carry on to attempt a bait again someday. I'll take my isk. This is your counter.
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:11:00 - [6] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Zagdul 1. Join a fleet. You may find your words are a little empty. 2. To counter, get some people in the alliance to bait them. We've done this before, we got our asses kicked but we tried. Learned a few things also and will carry on to attempt a bait again someday. I'll take my isk. This is your counter. Zag.. Baiting depends entirely upon the guy doing the Cloaky Griefing revealing himself to you. I'm not asking for a charitable action from the guy like that, I'm asking for a skillset from CCP to let me eventually find him myself. Thanks for your continued support. Raj. You're not the first person to ask in the past... oh 7 years. Nothing is changed. Make a petition, come up with an idea and put it on the ideas discussion forum. But coming to General Discussion and whining about it solves NOTHING. Getting in a ship and trying to bait at least is something. So, your current solution, with current game mechanics is: 1. HTFU. 2. Get in a combat ship that looks like some tasty hot dropping food. I advised a well tanked Tengu, an awesomely fit golem with plates and shield resists... ya know... bait. 2. Have a fleet waiting on one of the gates or multiple jump bridges leading into the system you're having problems with and wait. Pay this fleet a portion of your bounty so they don't feel like they're doing it for nothing. 3. Hot dropper sees the wonderful piece of prime rib sitting in a Sanctum. 4. ?????? 5. Profit. This is your counter to game mechanics in an MMO. Where you, as an individual cannot counter this. JUST as the enemy, as a single player (unless multi boxing) cannot accomplish the hot drop on their own.
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:26:00 - [7] Originally by: Razzor Death nobody's supporting you we are telling you you are a moron and you are publicly telling everyone your alliance is so bad you cant deal with cloakys. Pure Blind F-NMX6 GA-P6C S-MDYI S4GH-I gogogogo Nonono... He's a moron, in our alliance. Everyone has a couple.
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 17:45:00 - [8] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: darius mclever Fixed it for you. ------No you just dribbled------------------- The thing is pretty simple. be prepared to fight or run all the time. especially in 0.0. If the cloaked guy can harm you, you can harm him. Now go and prepare. (just one week without cloak whine from nc pets.... just one week.) he may not harm just me.. maybe he's out to harm a mining fleet with a hot drop? Of say fifty odd ships the odd dreadnought perhaps. Oh yeah I'm ready for that.. Me an my corp. Realistically your argument doesn't hold warm water pal and doesnt solve a real imbalance in the game that is not being currently addressed by CCP. But thats why I'm here aint it? Happy days. Raj. Check your evegate since you're not in game.

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