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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.09.03 14:00:00 -
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My oh my. If this isn't a repeat of countless Mass Testing threads over the past 7 months...
I see that CCP has now integrated tests not directly related to large-scale fleet performance. How easily CCP has made use of its free labor.
That CCP is developing its testing bots and the test server updater tool are positive steps. That CCP is still performing these tests w/no defined compensation for players' time is criminal, yet typical for a for-profit entity.
Yup. CCP is in this to make as much money as possible off of its customers. That its customers are willing to provide free labor, as noble as it may feel to some, is a nice boost to net profits. No need to hire, train and manage en-mass cheap testers from the sub-continent. Or wherever the cheapest labor-pool-of-the-day lives.
Perhaps it is a good thing, this use of well-trained customers as un-paid testing slugs. At least the 3rd world country testers won't get a taste of the good life (income >$1 / day), take out loans for useless goods and then sink into the current Western cycle of debt.
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Squid Prime
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Posted - 2010.09.03 14:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 03/09/2010 13:12:15
I get nothing out of it.
Sooo they want to fix the game so only they can play it in the office afterward, right? 
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I am the one who decides what I do with my time and money, not CCP. They should be grateful I pay them.
Anyone put a gun to your head? Can you make the difference between asking for help and requesting mandatory actions? What screwed world are you living in? Oh how important some people feel when they can decide NOT to do something. Yeah, the surge is overwhelming.
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I will do the job to help your employees (who get paid for this)
BTW, do you mind enlightening us, who are those 500 employees of CCP that should do the testing? I assure you there are quite a few limits on what a QA department (of probably 5-15 people) can do.
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Eskalin
Minmatar
Evolution
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.03 14:03:00 -
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hmm another of these circle jerks. maybe ccp needs to PAY people to test their game. i've heard there are these people who actually get PAYED to be qa testers. an actual job that they take seriously and know how to write bug reports and everything. maybe if they invested in the services of a few hundred of these people through the cunning use of a contract with their employer they would have better luck with the mass testing.
If babies weren't to be eaten they wouldn't be hibachi sized
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SkinSin
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Posted - 2010.09.03 14:10:00 -
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I spend roughly 10 hours a day testing software for a living, and I have absolutely no intention of spending any of my free time doing it as well. Certainly not for free. I like my time away fro QA.
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Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
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Posted - 2010.09.03 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: ivar R'dhak
IT¦s NOT and effin bribe!
You¦re paying THEM for a product not to test and fix it.
No I don't. I pay them (not with Plex) so I can play their game. If and when I voluntarily decide to help them to make their game even better than it already is, I simply choose to do something else with my free time than playing the game I paid for.
Originally by: ivar R'dhak
It¦s like paying Toyota for testing the brand new braking system!
If you buy a new car, you are paying the R&D department of the manufacturer as well. And then they happily evaluate the obtained data after a series of crashes due to failing mechanical parts. In that case you do not have a choice, opposite to the choice you have whether or not to help CCP in testing (new) features in EvE.
In the case of RL goods, you really pay, sometimes even with your life..... |
Squid Prime
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Posted - 2010.09.03 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: ivar R'dhak
Originally by: Esrevid Nekkeg
And no, I don't care for, bribes, bonuses or other stuff, I just wanted to attend to a test. I failed even that, sigh.....
Still a great game though!
IT¦s NOT and effin bribe!
You¦re paying THEM for a product not to test and fix it.
It¦s like paying Toyota for testing the brand new braking system!
Soo, IRL you also get every new model of Toyota they launch after your purchase FOR FREE, right? Oh wait, developing new content (with its inherent flaws and bugs) doesn't cost any money. Maintaining servers, paying stuff, doesn't cost any money. It all goes to the pockets of those fat managers...
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.03 14:24:00 -
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Get me a picture of CCP Fallout in a dress and I'll participate!
But seriously. First it's all shiny and new, then the second time it's only njah...and then the third time it's nothing. People just don't get interested of the same things on multiple times.
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Jennifer Fenring
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.03 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Fenring on 03/09/2010 15:46:21
Originally by: Squid Prime
Soo, IRL you also get every new model of Toyota they launch after your purchase FOR FREE, right? Oh wait, developing new content (with its inherent flaws and bugs) doesn't cost any money. Maintaining servers, paying stuff, doesn't cost any money. It all goes to the pockets of those fat managers...
That¦s a strange comparison. I don¦t pay Toyota a monthly fee to keep developing cars either.
Originally by: Squid Prime
CCP wants profit. Every single ****ing company on the face of the earth is out there for profit. If a business is not profitable it will simply die. And as far as I can see, many people here claim they would rather see EVE dieing, just out of spite, instead of trying to give a helping hand. If you're so scandalized about EVE making profit, why do you still pay taxes? I assure you, you don't get 10% back of what you pay. Why don't you go live in a jungle? Aren't you also almost-free-labor IRL? It's sooo easy to have double-standards especially on the internets...
No need to get emotional about it. Generally when people buy some software they expect it to work, just as Toyotas, watches, iPhones or whatever. It's quite a rare feature that a business asks its paying customers to extensively engage in testing their stuff to debug it. And if they do it's not uncommon to offer some kind of a incentive to do so, I don't think that's unreasonable - it's business as well. If it works, it works, if it doesn't, it doesn't.
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