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israus
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.09.10 00:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Bill Alt
It's funny that I keep hearing that, because I get it quite well. I simply disagree. As I already stated, my opinion is that the scale is relevant. Of course blowing up ships is what the game is about. We all know this. When you joyfully scam a lot of folks for what clearly has a huge equivalent monetary value, I call your personal ethics into question.
If I gave a person my trust, in game or not, and he skated with the isk equivalent of $4000 that I could have used to buy PLEXs... And laughs about it... Well, not being a rich person, that means something to me. I do not buy that a person who does it has a sterling character simply because the medium he used to scam was a game. Because the scale matters.
I didn't say game-scamming should be stopped. I didn't say it should be illegal. I said I believe it is probably a reflection of your real character.
Dead horse beaten.
but your an idiot and I can come on here and say so because in real life i'd be to polite to point that fact out. our actions in game or on forums have little or no reflection on who we are in real life.
why do you think there was so much fuss about blizzard bring in there real ID system where everybody who posted on the forums posted under there real names. because in real life we have certain social boundies which we would not cross. but the net lets people act out what they'd like to say or do.
the net lets us play out our fantasys lets us be the bank robber or the hero. games like eve just give people the freedom to act as they like. that does not translate into acting as we would in real life.
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israus
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.09.10 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
TBH you are proving the other guy's point.
Yours is a variation of the trite EvE motto: "I do this because I can".
Basically if you in RL behave honest etc. because laws / social conventions force you to, you have no merit.
If left completely free you'd switch to being what you like and you'd turn in RL into what you are in EvE.
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But I maintain that the freedom to scam without consequences doesn't make the scam moraly neutral.
Complete freedom allows to show yourself for who you are.
It's hypocrisy and self-lying to pretend it's pure "acting", look at the Roleplay forum and how the RP is usually blatantly obvious and looks constructed and artificial.
On the other side, the best scams are something acted in a way that looks congenial to the perpetrators. The "acted" scams like the acted RP usually show as such and quickly, and are promptly catched by the MD regulars.
Anyway, I am happy that EvE gives freedom to act in an honest or less honest way, but what I don't understand is how people can lie to themselves so hard, to be so much in denial vs their inner defects and flawed behaviors.
Fear of discovering yourself?
doesn't prove his point at all because if in the real world there where no laws and no repecutions for our actions then we'd all act differently. thats the whole point because mankinds morality isnt enough to keep use in line.
but the fact is you still can't compare peoples actions in a game which has no impact on peoples real lives to how they'd act in the real world. the pirates on eve don't want to run off to the middle east to start high jacking ships. and the pvpers in eve don't want to start mobs to run round the streets bashig random peoples heads in. just because you get to act out your fantasys does not mean you'd turn into them.
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israus
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.09.10 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
I like how when someone talks "scammer" people reply with "pirate". Pages ago I already drawn a line between pew pewing in a full PvP game vs conceiving intricate long term plans to screw up long term trusting friends.
It's not the same thing, however you paint it.
Finally, I dare say that eventually getting tens of thousands of dollars by RMTing stolen ISK HAS impact on people real lives.
please tell me where I said anything about pirates and scammers I was talking pirate in game to pirates in real life.
as for the real money trading I dare say CCP will be keeping and eagel eye on bobbys accounts and where the money goes from this so selling it to rmt venders probably wouldn't be the smartest thing to do. and saying that the stolen money being sold to rmt has impact on anybody but the person selling its life is crap. the only impact losing tens of billions of in game cash could possable having in real life is if that person was planning on selling it themselves and I assume your not supporting such a move.
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israus
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.09.10 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
After the stunt he pulled, do you believe Bad Bobby is such an idiot? Any scammer worth his salt announces the BANG after the RMT has been concluded already.
stop being an idiot there is no way he could sell that money easyly to rmt's either before it was announced or any time in the near future ccp will have checked and be checking on his account to monitor where the money goes.
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