Originally by: BacardiDesire

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stop posting please

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Originally by: Whiskeydod

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dude... CDI killed the caldari militia. you offered almost no fleet invites to the general militia because of your overwhelming fear of spies. You can't completely get rid of spies, and to think you can makes you a dumb-ass. All of the other FC's quit the militia, or stopped sending out fleets because they were tired of doing that 24/7. It was hard to trust some of the FC's in the militia to do a good job, since some of them obviously couldn't command a fleet to save their lives (not talking about masternerdguy). The only option left was to try and join some of the other fleets, but we couldn't because we would never get invited. you keep talking about fixing factional warfare, which is fine. But all you are doing right now, is killing it.

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Originally by: Whiskeydod

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dude... CDI killed the caldari militia. you offered almost no fleet invites to the general militia because of your overwhelming fear of spies. You can't completely get rid of spies, and to think you can makes you a dumb-ass. All of the other FC's quit the militia, or stopped sending out fleets because they were tired of doing that 24/7. It was hard to trust some of the FC's in the militia to do a good job, since some of them obviously couldn't command a fleet to save their lives (not talking about masternerdguy). The only option left was to try and join some of the other fleets, but we couldn't because we would never get invited. you keep talking about fixing factional warfare, which is fine. But all you are doing right now, is killing it.

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Originally by: Whiskeydod

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dude... CDI killed the caldari militia. you offered almost no fleet invites to the general militia because of your overwhelming fear of spies. You can't completely get rid of spies, and to think you can makes you a dumb-ass. All of the other FC's quit the militia, or stopped sending out fleets because they were tired of doing that 24/7. It was hard to trust some of the FC's in the militia to do a good job, since some of them obviously couldn't command a fleet to save their lives (not talking about masternerdguy). The only option left was to try and join some of the other fleets, but we couldn't because we would never get invited. you keep talking about fixing factional warfare, which is fine. But all you are doing right now, is killing it.

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general BS or troll ...

u r just not in the right channels ... CDI has nothing to do with it - there are several secure channels where are the fleets forming and only one is CDI exclusive. Only problem is that CDI FCs kinda refused to lead general miltiia fleets, because general militia kinda sucks in general. BTW I lead general militia fleets at least once per month.

U allways have chance to join a corp who is in CDI or who is kinda more recognized to get invites. Ur stats point to the fact u r quite new to pvp so it might be the problem - u just need to be more patient, because people are afraid of spies and noobs.

CDI role is mostly defence against griefers - deeper internal cooperation is now discussed in last week.

BTW u sound like MNG alt ....

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Originally by: Aiden Vorlan

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Originally by: Whiskeydod

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dude... CDI killed the caldari militia. you offered almost no fleet invites to the general militia because of your overwhelming fear of spies. You can't completely get rid of spies, and to think you can makes you a dumb-ass. All of the other FC's quit the militia, or stopped sending out fleets because they were tired of doing that 24/7. It was hard to trust some of the FC's in the militia to do a good job, since some of them obviously couldn't command a fleet to save their lives (not talking about masternerdguy). The only option left was to try and join some of the other fleets, but we couldn't because we would never get invited. you keep talking about fixing factional warfare, which is fine. But all you are doing right now, is killing it.

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general BS or troll ...

u r just not in the right channels ... CDI has nothing to do with it - there are several secure channels where are the fleets forming and only one is CDI exclusive. Only problem is that CDI FCs kinda refused to lead general miltiia fleets, because general militia kinda sucks in general. BTW I lead general militia fleets at least once per month.

U allways have chance to join a corp who is in CDI or who is kinda more recognized to get invites. Ur stats point to the fact u r quite new to pvp so it might be the problem - u just need to be more patient, because people are afraid of spies and noobs.

CDI role is mostly defence against griefers - deeper internal cooperation is now discussed in last week.

BTW u sound like MNG alt ....

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Actually, I'm friendly with two people in CDI corporations (one of whom, I might add, is in IBS) who once were at the forefront of leading general militia fleets. They were damn competent FCs, I might add. Anyways, they both stopped leading general militia fleets because, and I quote: "Snake said to stop."

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Be ready to fight the wars which are not directly yours as others will fight your wars. If you cannot accept being selfless, dont come and stay in militia.

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Originally by: Admiral Hawke

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I approve of the CDI, except where this comes in to play...

Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Be ready to fight the wars which are not directly yours as others will fight your wars. If you cannot accept being selfless, dont come and stay in militia.

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Because basically, one of your corps will make a stupid decision, and be angry if you don't join their war. Even though they were in the wrong, and then act as if we're in the wrong for defending our corporation.

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Edited by: Hidden Snake on 06/09/2010 18:42:32

Originally by: Aiden Vorlan

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Originally by: Whiskeydod

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dude... CDI killed the caldari militia. you offered almost no fleet invites to the general militia because of your overwhelming fear of spies. You can't completely get rid of spies, and to think you can makes you a dumb-ass. All of the other FC's quit the militia, or stopped sending out fleets because they were tired of doing that 24/7. It was hard to trust some of the FC's in the militia to do a good job, since some of them obviously couldn't command a fleet to save their lives (not talking about masternerdguy). The only option left was to try and join some of the other fleets, but we couldn't because we would never get invited. you keep talking about fixing factional warfare, which is fine. But all you are doing right now, is killing it.

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general BS or troll ...

u r just not in the right channels ... CDI has nothing to do with it - there are several secure channels where are the fleets forming and only one is CDI exclusive. Only problem is that CDI FCs kinda refused to lead general miltiia fleets, because general militia kinda sucks in general. BTW I lead general militia fleets at least once per month.

U allways have chance to join a corp who is in CDI or who is kinda more recognized to get invites. Ur stats point to the fact u r quite new to pvp so it might be the problem - u just need to be more patient, because people are afraid of spies and noobs.

CDI role is mostly defence against griefers - deeper internal cooperation is now discussed in last week.

BTW u sound like MNG alt ....

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Actually, I'm friendly with two people in CDI corporations (one of whom, I might add, is in IBS) who once were at the forefront of leading general militia fleets. They were damn competent FCs, I might add. Anyways, they both stopped leading general militia fleets because, and I quote: "Snake said to stop."

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aiden ... u r real troll and fail

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Originally by: Stalking Mantis

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Edited by: Stalking Mantis on 06/09/2010 21:44:23

Originally by: Admiral Hawke

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I approve of the CDI, except where this comes in to play...

Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Be ready to fight the wars which are not directly yours as others will fight your wars. If you cannot accept being selfless, dont come and stay in militia.

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Because basically, one of your corps will make a stupid decision, and be angry if you don't join their war. Even though they were in the wrong, and then act as if we're in the wrong for defending our corporation.

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Defend This
http://caldari.eve-kill.net//?a=kill_related&kll_id=7531804

This post is about the CDI Failed Diplomacy unless you plan on sabatoging this thread as well. Please keep this thread CDI.
*Ninja Edit for Link*

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Originally by: Stalking Mantis

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Defend This
http://caldari.eve-kill.net//?a=kill_related&kll_id=7531804

This post is about the CDI Failed Diplomacy unless you plan on sabatoging this thread as well. Please keep this thread CDI.
*Ninja Edit for Link*

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Originally by: Admiral Hawke

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I approve of the CDI, except where this comes in to play...

Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Be ready to fight the wars which are not directly yours as others will fight your wars. If you cannot accept being selfless, dont come and stay in militia.

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Because basically, one of your corps will make a stupid decision, and be angry if you don't join their war. Even though they were in the wrong, and then act as if we're in the wrong for defending our corporation.

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Originally by: Nidhiesk

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General militia pilots sucks ass real bad.

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Originally by: Rashmika Clavain

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"last night we formed a fleet. It was biger than the opposing Gallente fleet but we still decided not to fight and went back to Nourv".

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Originally by: Rashmika Clavain

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"last night we formed a fleet. It was biger than the opposing Gallente fleet but we still decided not to fight and went back to Nourv".

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well it I created gang of 10-15 BC+logies last night to scout that gals created 50-60 BS heavy gang with 10-15 Bipos Hacs/BC gang as a bait. So I decided to go kill pies and lonely gals in side pipes and have fun. I just dont fight lost fights.

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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however in ur case ur CEO went pie (and used that docking trick) and we melt him ... simple ... that he emmoraged and acts like a kid is another thing. Also honestly guys u r now completely cooperating with Snuff and Bipos

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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gals created 50-60 BS heavy gang with 10-15 Bipos Hacs/BC gang as a bait

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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well it I created gang of 10-15 BC+logies last night to scout that gals created 50-60 BS heavy gang with 10-15 Bipos Hacs/BC gang as a bait. So I decided to go kill pies and lonely gals in side pipes and have fun. I just dont fight lost fights.

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Originally by: Rashmika Clavain

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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well it I created gang of 10-15 BC+logies last night to scout that gals created 50-60 BS heavy gang with 10-15 Bipos Hacs/BC gang as a bait. So I decided to go kill pies and lonely gals in side pipes and have fun. I just dont fight lost fights.

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lol well it's good to see you're consistent with your run away strategies!

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Originally by: Ame Sonoda

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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however in ur case ur CEO went pie (and used that docking trick) and we melt him ... simple ... that he emmoraged and acts like a kid is another thing. Also honestly guys u r now completely cooperating with Snuff and Bipos

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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gals created 50-60 BS heavy gang with 10-15 Bipos Hacs/BC gang as a bait

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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however in ur case ur CEO went pie (and used that docking trick) and we melt him ... simple ... that he emmoraged and acts like a kid is another thing. Also honestly guys u r now completely cooperating with Snuff and Bipos

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Originally by: Admiral Hawke

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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however in ur case ur CEO went pie (and used that docking trick) and we melt him ... simple ... that he emmoraged and acts like a kid is another thing. Also honestly guys u r now completely cooperating with Snuff and Bipos

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As it's been repeatedly said, your guy engaged him, he defended himself(no sentry fire means he wasn't the aggressor). If you can't understand that on the 50th time of it being said, you're an idiot. You could end this war, by owning up to your mistake, but you've chosen to lie through your teeth, while your members keep dying.

And, negative on the gallente/snuff coordination, you make us sound like elite spies, keep spewing crazy thoughts and terrible rants to your members. No we haven't chased, killed and/or died to the Gallente, up until the war started...

You began the war, we're going to finish it, the CDI may or may not be intact after it's all over with. Anyways, hope to finally see you on the battlefield again at some point.

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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he docked and agress back ... therefore there is no gates on km (kinda exploit, but whatever).

ad war - u wdeced us .... therefore we cannot stop the war

ad snuff/gals - u attacked us several times during militia fleets and fights with gals. U camped our guys together with snuff and bipos in stations at least twice.

You have to live with ur CEOs decisions as IBS guys do. Some whithstand the presure some not. That is life of pvp corp.

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Originally by: Admiral Hawke

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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he docked and agress back ... therefore there is no gates on km (kinda exploit, but whatever).

ad war - u wdeced us .... therefore we cannot stop the war

ad snuff/gals - u attacked us several times during militia fleets and fights with gals. U camped our guys together with snuff and bipos in stations at least twice.

You have to live with ur CEOs decisions as IBS guys do. Some whithstand the presure some not. That is life of pvp corp.

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He docked and aggressed back? He'd take sentry fire when coming back out. Your own corp members have said it, he was involved iwth your corp, and has a tendacy to do something stupid and call for help. Which was engage Airric.

Yes, we wardec'd you. You told us to get bent when we asked for a refund on your stupidity. You also said you outnumbered us if we dec'd you. When your own members wanted this war over, since you're the bus driver, you should have manned up to your mistake. This war could be over, and we could all go back to kill Gallente, if you'd only resolve the issue.

You think we're going to keep letting you run fleets, as if you're to be left alone? We jumped your guys on the nourv/tama gate, while bi-polar were there at range. We also, killed what was there and warped out. Either A: They think you're a tool as much as we do or B: Didn't have the ships to engage what we jumped in with, as they tend to stay at range. The 2nd fight yesterday, we used an alt to scout your gang movement, jumped in directly after your guys killed off the gallente gang, and killed your pilots only. We were on a corp op, when your guys decided to kill Airric, you don't deserve the "honor."

**Towards all corporations in or thinking of joining the CDI**

You will find out that Hidden doesn't think about your safety or fun in this game. He will blindly do whatever he wants, and you're his meat shield, his buffer for stupidity.


TL;DR - Don't, because it doesn't really mean crap to the EvE community.

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Edited by: Hidden Snake on 07/09/2010 14:54:04

Originally by: Admiral Hawke

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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he docked and agress back ... therefore there is no gates on km (kinda exploit, but whatever).

ad war - u wdeced us .... therefore we cannot stop the war

ad snuff/gals - u attacked us several times during militia fleets and fights with gals. U camped our guys together with snuff and bipos in stations at least twice.

You have to live with ur CEOs decisions as IBS guys do. Some whithstand the presure some not. That is life of pvp corp.

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He docked and aggressed back? He'd take sentry fire when coming back out. Your own corp members have said it, he was involved iwth your corp, and has a tendacy to do something stupid and call for help. Which was engage Airric.

Yes, we wardec'd you. You told us to get bent when we asked for a refund on your stupidity. You also said you outnumbered us if we dec'd you. When your own members wanted this war over, since you're the bus driver, you should have manned up to your mistake. This war could be over, and we could all go back to kill Gallente, if you'd only resolve the issue.

You think we're going to keep letting you run fleets, as if you're to be left alone? We jumped your guys on the nourv/tama gate, while bi-polar were there at range. We also, killed what was there and warped out. Either A: They think you're a tool as much as we do or B: Didn't have the ships to engage what we jumped in with, as they tend to stay at range. The 2nd fight yesterday, we used an alt to scout your gang movement, jumped in directly after your guys killed off the gallente gang, and killed your pilots only. We were on a corp op, when your guys decided to kill Airric, you don't deserve the "honor."

**Towards all corporations in or thinking of joining the CDI**

You will find out that Hidden doesn't think about your safety or fun in this game. He will blindly do whatever he wants, and you're his meat shield, his buffer for stupidity.


TL;DR - Don't, because it doesn't really mean crap to the EvE community.

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BS ... we ofered Airric some compensation as he went pie on our tackler not full ofc, but he refused (twice i think). Therefore we will have some nice war in miltia.

Ad CDI - u r the corp with record of killing Amarr allies together with wolfy. CDI is the org which helps other caldari corps in case of griefer wdecs. Just sort ur head man.

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Originally by: Dark Assassin15

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Edited by: Hidden Snake on 07/09/2010 14:54:04

Originally by: Admiral Hawke

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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he docked and agress back ... therefore there is no gates on km (kinda exploit, but whatever).

ad war - u wdeced us .... therefore we cannot stop the war

ad snuff/gals - u attacked us several times during militia fleets and fights with gals. U camped our guys together with snuff and bipos in stations at least twice.

You have to live with ur CEOs decisions as IBS guys do. Some whithstand the presure some not. That is life of pvp corp.

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He docked and aggressed back? He'd take sentry fire when coming back out. Your own corp members have said it, he was involved iwth your corp, and has a tendacy to do something stupid and call for help. Which was engage Airric.

Yes, we wardec'd you. You told us to get bent when we asked for a refund on your stupidity. You also said you outnumbered us if we dec'd you. When your own members wanted this war over, since you're the bus driver, you should have manned up to your mistake. This war could be over, and we could all go back to kill Gallente, if you'd only resolve the issue.

You think we're going to keep letting you run fleets, as if you're to be left alone? We jumped your guys on the nourv/tama gate, while bi-polar were there at range. We also, killed what was there and warped out. Either A: They think you're a tool as much as we do or B: Didn't have the ships to engage what we jumped in with, as they tend to stay at range. The 2nd fight yesterday, we used an alt to scout your gang movement, jumped in directly after your guys killed off the gallente gang, and killed your pilots only. We were on a corp op, when your guys decided to kill Airric, you don't deserve the "honor."

**Towards all corporations in or thinking of joining the CDI**

You will find out that Hidden doesn't think about your safety or fun in this game. He will blindly do whatever he wants, and you're his meat shield, his buffer for stupidity.


TL;DR - Don't, because it doesn't really mean crap to the EvE community.

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BS ... we ofered Airric some compensation as he went pie on our tackler not full ofc, but he refused (twice i think). Therefore we will have some nice war in miltia.

Ad CDI - u r the corp with record of killing Amarr allies together with wolfy. CDI is the org which helps other caldari corps in case of griefer wdecs. Just sort ur head man.

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Hidden,
i think i speak for everyone following this thread. "You Are An Idiot". stop trying to get everyone to believe your BS propaganda, everyone knows that you are full of sh*t. i cant wait to get my point on you.

see you in space.

Hawk Rules.

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Another FD ... moar please .... can Airric come please too ... guys u ****ed most of the caldari miltiia by ur selfish acts so stfu.

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Originally by: Oathborne

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I haven't really seen any updates in your CDI update thread.

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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And yeah it is usual highsec wdec smack ....

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Ad CDI - u r the corp with record of killing Amarr allies together with wolfy. CDI is the org which helps other caldari corps in case of griefer wdecs. Just sort ur head man.

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Originally by: Admiral Hawke

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Anyways, I'm done derailing your thread to discuss this war, as no one really cares.

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Originally by: Roosterton

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Also, the way Snake seems 2 think it's cool 2 spll wrds wth as lttle effrt pssble is plain annoying.

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Originally by: Roosterton

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I only read the first few posts or so, but in my opinion, everyone in this thread is a horrible poster. I barely even know anything about the situation...

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Quote:

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To the anti-CDI: CDI gained trust over the militia, and got a supporter base. You think they ruined the militia, but really, they achieved their objectives, so they must have done something right.

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Quote:

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To CDI: Your posters in this thread are sounding like pompous and arrogant trolls. Also, the way Snake seems 2 think it's cool 2 spll wrds wth as lttle effrt pssble is plain annoying.

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Anyway, keep up the drama. Don't let me stop you.

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Originally by: Nidhiesk

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I just discovered your secret and I'm going to publicly tell it. Your a redneck that has trouble reading. Seriously, If you read it correctly, he didn't run..ffs he didn't even engage in the first place lol. it would be a run if he did engage and ran away but he didn't even attack that gang.

LEARN HOW TO READ THEN POST SOMETHING COHERENT ****ING ******

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Originally by: Nidhiesk

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I just discovered your secret and I'm going to publicly tell it. Your a redneck that has trouble reading. Seriously, If you read it correctly, he didn't run..ffs he didn't even engage in the first place lol. it would be a run if he did engage and ran away but he didn't even attack that gang.

LEARN HOW TO READ THEN POST SOMETHING COHERENT ****ING ******

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Originally by: Rashmika Clavain

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Posting in a "it only counts as running away if we shoot at soemthing first" thread.

Actually that explains a lot about the Caldari war philosophy.

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Originally by: Schalac

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Originally by: Rashmika Clavain

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Posting in a "it only counts as running away if we shoot at soemthing first" thread.

Actually that explains a lot about the Caldari war philosophy.

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This was not the Caldari philosophy a year and some months ago. I left the game back in early 2009 and the Cal militia was friendly, supportive and accepting of all of its pilots. We had constant huge roams into gal space, minny space and even 0.0 space. We would lag out a cluster with gals every weekend in willing to fight fleet battles. The Gals would love us for flying BS and we loved the gals for the same reason. Remember when FW actually had good BS fights?

There were no complaints about one side getting the advantage, because we all lost in the old lowsec lag, and when CCP sent me an email saying it was fixed I started back up again. The single most first thing I noticed after logging back in was. The Caldari militia has changed. All of a sudden everyone was a spy. All of a sudden everyone needed to get lonewolf kills to a certain level before getting fleet invites. All of a sudden the CALDARI MILITIA SUCKED. We lost our open attitude of we fight because we will to a more we fight because we outnumber this lone pilot that happens to warp into Nourv.

It's SAD. Then when I came back after a year plus hiatus I tried to start a fleet, a wolfpack. A tried and true method of killing many many FW targets in the past that I happened to be apart of and wanted to get going just to get my feet wet again before I put up anothe rBS into the mix and learn who were the good people to fleet with. I was met with spy accusations from people who spent less time in militia than myself and were not even Caldari born. At first it intrigued me. Maybe there was something big that happened that could cause this. I looked. I read forums, I asked around. There was no base though. It was just implied that if you are not killing people, for whatever reason, you are a spy. The new guy that just started this game, is a spy. The Guy that was in the Caldari militia from almost the start but left due to boredom and RL issues... SPY.

State WAR mother****ers. Whatever. The Caldari militia isn't even worth reading now. They have been killed by all the ***gots in the CDI and trolls like kahhhhhnn. The paranoid pussies have claimed Caldari FW. I have tried to help but my voice is drowned out by these hapless creatures, and even when people say that agree with me in milchat they get berated for doing so. So much so that I get messages sent to me saying they do but don't want the "spies" to know they agree with me.

It's SAD. **** FW, it's just a new PvE ISK fountain for me. Look for me in a Nemesis that looks like this http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/42756-Nemesis-What.html because you can't catch me in it.

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Originally by: Aiden Vorlan

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You know. I was in Caldari militia a few months back. At that point, there were growing calls of "OMG SPAI" in general militia chat. We even had one pilot (1945) called a spy by someone in I.BS. Because of that one word, the person was denied access to a Gunny-led fleet.

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Originally by: Damar Rocarion

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Originally by: Aiden Vorlan

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You know. I was in Caldari militia a few months back. At that point, there were growing calls of "OMG SPAI" in general militia chat. We even had one pilot (1945) called a spy by someone in I.BS. Because of that one word, the person was denied access to a Gunny-led fleet.

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I believe I was responsible for this. And what occurred was that we had a gang in an unrestricted plex. This person is in local, does not answer convo nor join fleet. He keeps warping in and out of plex, always arriving at range at different angles from celestials. Eventually he finds a decent spot and wt sniper team warps in. (who achieved nothing)

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

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Originally by: Super Chair

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K first off, referencing a MNG situation and then saying that it's CDI's fault is a fallacy since MNG isn't even remotely associated with CDI. Get off gunny's **** while you're at it. He's just as tired of the **** that goes on in militia as any other FC.

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Originally by: Damar Rocarion

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Originally by: Aiden Vorlan

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You know. I was in Caldari militia a few months back. At that point, there were growing calls of "OMG SPAI" in general militia chat. We even had one pilot (1945) called a spy by someone in I.BS. Because of that one word, the person was denied access to a Gunny-led fleet.

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I believe I was responsible for this. And what occurred was that we had a gang in an unrestricted plex. This person is in local, does not answer convo nor join fleet. He keeps warping in and out of plex, always arriving at range at different angles from celestials. Eventually he finds a decent spot and wt sniper team warps in. (who achieved nothing)

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

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Originally by: Schalac

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So what is your point? If you are in Plex you should always be ready to warp out or fight 100% of the time. The smart leave both options open. Second, all FW plex have an acceleration gate.

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Originally by: Damar Rocarion

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Originally by: Schalac

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So what is your point? If you are in Plex you should always be ready to warp out or fight 100% of the time. The smart leave both options open. Second, all FW plex have an acceleration gate.

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I suggest you go and read my plexing guide and learn what term "unrestricted plex" means. I wont bother commenting rest of the post before that.

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

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Originally by: Schalac

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The only time that I have seen anyone able to jump at range to you while doing FW plex was when you are actually assaulting the bunker.

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Originally by: Alara IonStorm

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Does FW have Snipers!

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Originally by: Alara IonStorm

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Does FW have Snipers!

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Originally by: Intigo

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Scrubs telling other scrubs they are better.

PS: You're all bad.

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Originally by: Hidden Snake

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Originally by: Rashmika Clavain

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"last night we formed a fleet. It was biger than the opposing Gallente fleet but we still decided not to fight and went back to Nourv".

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well it I created gang of 10-15 BC+logies last night to scout that gals created 50-60 BS heavy gang with 10-15 Bipos Hacs/BC gang as a bait. So I decided to go kill pies and lonely gals in side pipes and have fun. I just dont fight unless i have 80% chance to win.

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Originally by: Damar Rocarion

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Unrestricted plexes (major stronghold and major compounds) are ones where you enter with any ship, including capitals. In case you are worried about loopholes to system, it is not possible to cyno inside a plex (nor warp to other member). Smartbombs dont function while in range of acceleration gate

When warping to plex, best range to warp to gate is 10km. You will still land close enough to activate the gate but wont risk bumping into gate. These days, once you activate gate you are invulnerable and enter safely.

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Originally by: Schalac

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So are you a complete ****** or do you not even know what you wrote? It's the exact same thing that I said. All plex have gates and you cannot set up warp in points because you always warp from gate. It has been like that since I can remember in FW. Bunkers were the only sites that you could warp in and out of at ranges.

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Originally by: Damar Rocarion

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Originally by: Schalac

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So are you a complete ****** or do you not even know what you wrote? It's the exact same thing that I said. All plex have gates and you cannot set up warp in points because you always warp from gate. It has been like that since I can remember in FW. Bunkers were the only sites that you could warp in and out of at ranges.

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And like a proper troll, he does not even read the full article. I suggest looking at chapter 6.

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

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Originally by: Schalac

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Originally by: Damar Rocarion

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Unrestricted plexes (major stronghold and major compounds) are ones where you enter with any ship, including capitals. In case you are worried about loopholes to system, it is not possible to cyno inside a plex (nor warp to other member). Smartbombs dont function while in range of acceleration gate

When warping to plex, best range to warp to gate is 10km. You will still land close enough to activate the gate but wont risk bumping into gate. These days, once you activate gate you are invulnerable and enter safely.

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So are you a complete ****** or do you not even know what you wrote? It's the exact same thing that I said. All plex have gates and you cannot set up warp in points because you always warp from gate. It has been like that since I can remember in FW. Bunkers were the only sites that you could warp in and out of at ranges.

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Originally by: Damar Rocarion

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Originally by: Schalac

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So are you a complete ****** or do you not even know what you wrote? It's the exact same thing that I said. All plex have gates and you cannot set up warp in points because you always warp from gate. It has been like that since I can remember in FW. Bunkers were the only sites that you could warp in and out of at ranges.

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And like a proper troll, he does not even read the full article. I suggest looking at chapter 6.

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

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Originally by: Schalac

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Originally by: Damar Rocarion

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Originally by: Schalac

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So are you a complete ****** or do you not even know what you wrote? It's the exact same thing that I said. All plex have gates and you cannot set up warp in points because you always warp from gate. It has been like that since I can remember in FW. Bunkers were the only sites that you could warp in and out of at ranges.

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And like a proper troll, he does not even read the full article. I suggest looking at chapter 6.

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

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You wrote two completely different descriptions for the same thing. Plexes have gates, bunkers do not. You are a complete ******, and I am not going to read the whole thing because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

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Originally by: Schalac

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Originally by: Damar Rocarion

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Originally by: Schalac

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So are you a complete ****** or do you not even know what you wrote? It's the exact same thing that I said. All plex have gates and you cannot set up warp in points because you always warp from gate. It has been like that since I can remember in FW. Bunkers were the only sites that you could warp in and out of at ranges.

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And like a proper troll, he does not even read the full article. I suggest looking at chapter 6.

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

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You wrote two completely different descriptions for the same thing. Plexes have gates, bunkers do not. You are a complete ******, and I am not going to read the whole thing because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

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Originally by: Ti'jitsu

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I approve of this drama.

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Originally by: IbanezLaney

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Originally by: Schalac

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Originally by: Damar Rocarion

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Originally by: Schalac

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So are you a complete ****** or do you not even know what you wrote? It's the exact same thing that I said. All plex have gates and you cannot set up warp in points because you always warp from gate. It has been like that since I can remember in FW. Bunkers were the only sites that you could warp in and out of at ranges.

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And like a proper troll, he does not even read the full article. I suggest looking at chapter 6.

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

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You wrote two completely different descriptions for the same thing. Plexes have gates, bunkers do not. You are a complete ******, and I am not going to read the whole thing because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

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Dude - Seems reading the whole guide will be a good idea.

I dunno if this is possible but if you think outside the square a little bit you may realize there are 2 things without gates - Unrestricted plexes and the bunkers.

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Originally by: Ti'jitsu

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Ti'jitsu's stuff

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Originally by: Ti'jitsu

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Although i would like to mention that i am somewhat annoyed at how lately (the past 3-5 months) it seems the caldari fit their ships to run away from combat instead of fitting them to fight and win the battle. Point in question.. Hidden snake and his cloaky hurricane that we chased (along with his fleet that scattered in all directions)back to hysera from OMS. Granted we had 7 rapidly thrown together pilots and they only had 11. But still, i think the caldari would see better results if they held their ground once in awhile rather then scatter at the mere mention of a gallente fleet or local spike. Far to often after fights i sit back and i look at killmails being posted with cloaks and warp stabs on ships. Or just completely fail setups that make no sense.

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Originally by: Super Chair

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Originally by: Ti'jitsu

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Although i would like to mention that i am somewhat annoyed at how lately (the past 3-5 months) it seems the caldari fit their ships to run away from combat instead of fitting them to fight and win the battle. Point in question.. Hidden snake and his cloaky hurricane that we chased (along with his fleet that scattered in all directions)back to hysera from OMS. Granted we had 7 rapidly thrown together pilots and they only had 11. But still, i think the caldari would see better results if they held their ground once in awhile rather then scatter at the mere mention of a gallente fleet or local spike. Far to often after fights i sit back and i look at killmails being posted with cloaks and warp stabs on ships. Or just completely fail setups that make no sense.

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First off, the only reason you're even advocating "holding your ground" is so that your blob that clearly outnumbers us everytime can get more kills instead of spreading your points. Personally, it's tiring grabbing X's for an hour or more, having the noobs link thier failfits, telling them to go refit and teaching them how to fit, and teaching them what a primary is, etc... then wait another twenty minutes for the fleet to get proper fits, then see that the other side has twice our numbers.

Oh how the tears flowed when snake's "hidden fleet" managed to evade your blob. It's just another tactic to avoid your blob. I've been using it for months with my cerb roaming the pipes, and how the tears flow everytime i evade a gatecamp.

You guys can't even go against a 10 person gang without bringing at least 30+, as proven by some of our antics in fliet a couple weeks back. Props to all the gallente pilots with balls out there to actually leave the main pipes for some action (loren, val erian, x gallentius, rex, even armored core roaming with the small gangs out there, hell, even eddie has the balls to fight with simmilar numbers, just like the other day in hysera). You wonder why we run everytime, it might be because you refuse to engage until the thousand nations, of the gallente blobberation are ready to come all at once with twice of what would be considered a "good" fight. You want things to be more fun? Get your balls to drop and join our horde of purger rigging, capacitor power relay fitting noobs without a mwd/point.

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Originally by: Super Chair

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Originally by: Ti'jitsu

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Although i would like to mention that i am somewhat annoyed at how lately (the past 3-5 months) it seems the caldari fit their ships to run away from combat instead of fitting them to fight and win the battle. Point in question.. Hidden snake and his cloaky hurricane that we chased (along with his fleet that scattered in all directions)back to hysera from OMS. Granted we had 7 rapidly thrown together pilots and they only had 11. But still, i think the caldari would see better results if they held their ground once in awhile rather then scatter at the mere mention of a gallente fleet or local spike. Far to often after fights i sit back and i look at killmails being posted with cloaks and warp stabs on ships. Or just completely fail setups that make no sense.

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First off, the only reason you're even advocating "holding your ground" is so that your blob that clearly outnumbers us everytime can get more kills instead of spreading your points. Personally, it's tiring grabbing X's for an hour or more, having the noobs link thier failfits, telling them to go refit and teaching them how to fit, and teaching them what a primary is, etc... then wait another twenty minutes for the fleet to get proper fits, then see that the other side has twice our numbers.

Oh how the tears flowed when snake's "hidden fleet" managed to evade your blob. It's just another tactic to avoid your blob. I've been using it for months with my cerb roaming the pipes, and how the tears flow everytime i evade a gatecamp.

You guys can't even go against a 10 person gang without bringing at least 30+, as proven by some of our antics in fliet a couple weeks back. Props to all the gallente pilots with balls out there to actually leave the main pipes for some action (loren, val erian, x gallentius, rex, even armored core roaming with the small gangs out there, hell, even eddie has the balls to fight with simmilar numbers, just like the other day in hysera). You wonder why we run everytime, it might be because you refuse to engage until the thousand nations, of the gallente blobberation are ready to come all at once with twice of what would be considered a "good" fight. You want things to be more fun? Get your balls to drop and join our horde of purger rigging, capacitor power relay fitting noobs without a mwd/point.

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Originally by: Ti'jitsu

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Ibanez your a complete idiot...

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Originally by: Ti'jitsu

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As horribly painful as it is for me to say this.. As i truly think damar should be sterilized for the good of the human race. Damar is right! Ibanez your a complete idiot... arguing with Damar about plexing is like arguing the theory of relativity with Albert einstein your just making yourself look like a total dip****. Damar quite literally wrote the book on plexing and has plexed in every system in EVE.. atleast twice.. and this has been confirmed by the guinness book of world records.

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Originally by: Aiden Vorlan

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Originally by: Super Chair

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Originally by: Ti'jitsu

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Although i would like to mention that i am somewhat annoyed at how lately (the past 3-5 months) it seems the caldari fit their ships to run away from combat instead of fitting them to fight and win the battle. Point in question.. Hidden snake and his cloaky hurricane that we chased (along with his fleet that scattered in all directions)back to hysera from OMS. Granted we had 7 rapidly thrown together pilots and they only had 11. But still, i think the caldari would see better results if they held their ground once in awhile rather then scatter at the mere mention of a gallente fleet or local spike. Far to often after fights i sit back and i look at killmails being posted with cloaks and warp stabs on ships. Or just completely fail setups that make no sense.

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First off, the only reason you're even advocating "holding your ground" is so that your blob that clearly outnumbers us everytime can get more kills instead of spreading your points. Personally, it's tiring grabbing X's for an hour or more, having the noobs link thier failfits, telling them to go refit and teaching them how to fit, and teaching them what a primary is, etc... then wait another twenty minutes for the fleet to get proper fits, then see that the other side has twice our numbers.

Oh how the tears flowed when snake's "hidden fleet" managed to evade your blob. It's just another tactic to avoid your blob. I've been using it for months with my cerb roaming the pipes, and how the tears flow everytime i evade a gatecamp.

You guys can't even go against a 10 person gang without bringing at least 30+, as proven by some of our antics in fliet a couple weeks back. Props to all the gallente pilots with balls out there to actually leave the main pipes for some action (loren, val erian, x gallentius, rex, even armored core roaming with the small gangs out there, hell, even eddie has the balls to fight with simmilar numbers, just like the other day in hysera). You wonder why we run everytime, it might be because you refuse to engage until the thousand nations, of the gallente blobberation are ready to come all at once with twice of what would be considered a "good" fight. You want things to be more fun? Get your balls to drop and join our horde of purger rigging, capacitor power relay fitting noobs without a mwd/point.

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I - and I'm sure many others - have a ot more respect for the Gallente then we do for the Caldari because of the fact that the Gallente bring more fun to the game. Whenever I'm in Tama, I can pretty much expect to be blobbed or pirated by a few Gallente militia battleships. And I enjoy it. You know why? Because they stay and fight.

I went against a Caldari fleet of frigates one time a week or so ago. I was in a Drake, and by all accounts they should have had me dead to rights. However, when my Drones showed up, all those frigates (about ten of them) ran. I didn't even have time to point them (BC lock time sucks), they simply ran. I've come to expect it. Hell, the tears from them later on in local about how I "cheat" was priceless.

So, put up, or shut up. I'm tired of seeing you dumbasses on these forums. You're nothing, you'll always be nothing.

And I realize I'm nothing in this game. And you know what? I'm cool with it. So **** off you incessant, whiny-ass little pricks. As you can see, people don't give two sh*ts about the CDI or you.

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Originally by: Damar Rocarion

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Originally by: Ti'jitsu

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Ibanez your a complete idiot...

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Why are you insulting a wrong person?

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

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Originally by: Stalking Mantis

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^^^who the hell is this and why is he in all the gallente/caldari discussions? I have never seen him on any side and he is always sticking himself in the middle of every discussion between gallente and caldari. I have noticed he is bitter towards the caldari for some reason though.

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Originally by: X Gallentius

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The difference between Super Chair's version and the Gallente version in USTZ ops is intel. When our guys roam around in low sec we have a fairly good idea of what is out there and what may come out of Nourv. We have players based out of several low sec systems in or near "the pipe".

When their guys go on a roam, they're roaming blind for the most part. We see their gang of X number of ships and we know that's what they have. When they see we have Y number of ships, they don't know how many we have hidden in the next system over or what's coming down from behind to trap them. They need to be cautious.

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Originally by: Super Chair

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Originally by: X Gallentius

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The difference between Super Chair's version and the Gallente version in USTZ ops is intel. When our guys roam around in low sec we have a fairly good idea of what is out there and what may come out of Nourv. We have players based out of several low sec systems in or near "the pipe".

When their guys go on a roam, they're roaming blind for the most part. We see their gang of X number of ships and we know that's what they have. When they see we have Y number of ships, they don't know how many we have hidden in the next system over or what's coming down from behind to trap them. They need to be cautious.

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That's what I get if I trust your agent, superior gloka, to scout.

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Originally by: Draco Rosso

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Edited by: Draco Rosso on 16/09/2010 13:56:24

Originally by: Stalking Mantis

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^^^who the hell is this and why is he in all the gallente/caldari discussions? I have never seen him on any side and he is always sticking himself in the middle of every discussion between gallente and caldari. I have noticed he is bitter towards the caldari for some reason though.

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He spent a short time in the Caldari Militia. At some point he one of the pilots considered to be invited into our intel channels. His constant badgering of Caldari Militia on the forums and inflammatory comments on militia ensured that didn't happen. He was regulated to joining general militia fleets.

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The funny/sad part was that Super Chair was one of people that wanted him in our intel channels.

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Originally by: Aiden Vorlan

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Originally by: Super Chair

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Originally by: X Gallentius

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The difference between Super Chair's version and the Gallente version in USTZ ops is intel. When our guys roam around in low sec we have a fairly good idea of what is out there and what may come out of Nourv. We have players based out of several low sec systems in or near "the pipe".

When their guys go on a roam, they're roaming blind for the most part. We see their gang of X number of ships and we know that's what they have. When they see we have Y number of ships, they don't know how many we have hidden in the next system over or what's coming down from behind to trap them. They need to be cautious.

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That's what I get if I trust your agent, superior gloka, to scout.

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So what you're saying is that you have no idea how to pick a trustworthy scout. Congratulations on being a worse FC than MNG.

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Originally by: Super Chair

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Originally by: Draco Rosso

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Edited by: Draco Rosso on 16/09/2010 13:56:24

Originally by: Stalking Mantis

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^^^who the hell is this and why is he in all the gallente/caldari discussions? I have never seen him on any side and he is always sticking himself in the middle of every discussion between gallente and caldari. I have noticed he is bitter towards the caldari for some reason though.

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He spent a short time in the Caldari Militia. At some point he one of the pilots considered to be invited into our intel channels. His constant badgering of Caldari Militia on the forums and inflammatory comments on militia ensured that didn't happen. He was regulated to joining general militia fleets.

Edit:
The funny/sad part was that Super Chair was one of people that wanted him in our intel channels.

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Yeah I saw a whine post on the forums so i convo'ed you to see if this guy was legit enough to invite to the channel. Turns out the drama queen was already fed up with not being hand fed pew pew and was on the way out to go whine elsewhere.

Mantis: Pretty much aiden will only be happy once he finds gunny IRL to try to ride his ****. If there was a gunny fanclub, he'd be the president.

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Originally by: X Gallentius

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We see their gang of X number of ships and we know that's what they have. When they see we have Y number of ships...

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Originally by: Admiral Hawke

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Originally by: X Gallentius

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We see their gang of X number of ships and we know that's what they have. When they see we have Y number of ships...

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So what you're really trying to say is, you form your fleets up after you know what the Caldari are in, and oversize it?
I be trollin...

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Originally by: Admiral Hawke

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Originally by: X Gallentius

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We see their gang of X number of ships and we know that's what they have. When they see we have Y number of ships...

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So what you're really trying to say is, you form your fleets up after you know what the Caldari are in, and oversize it?
I be trollin...

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Originally by: chatgris

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I heard "3 BS in oina on the abune gate". My response? "That has to be FAILD, they're the only ones with the balls to leave tama in BS at this time". And I was right :) You guys should form a CDI of your own and teach the caldari a few things!

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Originally by: Admiral Hawke

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So what you're really trying to say is, you form your fleets up after you know what the Caldari are in, and oversize it?
I be trollin...

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Originally by: Aiden Vorlan

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Sure, CDI has a decent efficiency record. But so do a lot of other corporations who selectively pick fights they are guaranteed to win. A HAC gang isn't going to go against a BS gang unless they severely outnumber the battleships and know how to work it. That is what CDI does: they select targets of opportunity, then surround and kill the target like a pack of hyenas. Nothing more.

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