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Muul Udonii
Minmatar
THORN Syndicate
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.06 17:43:00 -
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Simple question really, I have the following requirements:
Must be capable of at least two outputs, one HD one VGA, possibly a third (HDMI).
Must be PCIE
Must cost less than ú100
What's the current market? To be honest I've been out of the loop for too long and have absolutely no idea what's good and what's not.
Or alternatively, anyone know any good online review sites for this kinda thing?
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Grez
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.06 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Grez on 06/09/2010 17:51:39
If you can stretch to ú120 you can find 4890's about:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-124-XF&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=938
Other than that, 4850's sell for under ú100:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-026-C3&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=938
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Muul Udonii
Minmatar
THORN Syndicate
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.06 18:04:00 -
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Cheers for the links, do these actually support more than two displays at once? Never sure about that, I know my current one doesn't, although it has three output ports.
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Grez
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.06 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Grez on 06/09/2010 18:09:01
I own a 4870, and it has 2 DVI out's and 1 HDMI.
The 4850 I linked has:
2 Dual-Link DVI-I, 1 HDMI & 1 DisplayPort
(FYI, most graphics cards come with a DVI>VGA converter).
If you want three monitors, it'd be best to go for something like:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-155-XF&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=708, as it can do Eyefinity, which is very cool.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.09.06 18:32:00 -
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Most halfway-decent vidcards that came out in the past 2 years or so do support 2 monitors (if not 3, like some of the ATI "Eyefinity" edition ones) and can be plugged into anything (most come with DVI-to-DSub adapter bundled, one DSub and one DVI or two DVI connectors and also have a HDMI output).
Now... it depends exactly on what you want to do with the video card anyway.
If it's mostly just office work with the occasional single-client EVE in not-so-high detail and some data/spreadsheets/whatever on the second monitor, so only ever really using DX9 functionality (and not much of it), spending 100 GBP on a vidcard could be a bit much. A measly HD4350 or 8400GS will mostly do a relatively adequate job and cost you barely 30 GBP or thereabouts.
On the other hand, if you expect heavy gaming (multiple EVE clients on high res and high detail plus several other newer games that use DX10/DX11), spending only 100 GBP on a vidcard could be a bit lowball (you wouldn't want to have to buy a new card next year because the one you bought now can barely start the game you're trying, let alone allow you to play it even on lowest everything), you'd probably want at least a HD5750 (slightly over your price limit) or even a 460GTX (not quite double your limit, but it can come close depending on model/maker).
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Grez
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.07 00:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Akita T
you'd probably want at least a HD5750 (slightly over your price limit) or even a 460GTX (not quite double your limit, but it can come close depending on model/maker).
Didn't catch the link in my second post then? 
5750 is less than ú90.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.09.07 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Grez
Didn't catch the link in my second post then? 5750 is less than ú90.
Bleah, that's for the 512 MB version. 512 MB is soooo last decade 
Get the 1 GB version  And that puts it over the limit.
In newer games, yes, it does make quite a difference.
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Muul Udonii
Minmatar
THORN Syndicate
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.07 08:16:00 -
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Thanks for the advice guys, I think I'm gonna go for one of these:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-219-SP
As I agree that having a gig of RAM will be good for multi boxing Eve with all it's textures. And I can technically claim it's ú100, since it is (ex VAT).
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ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2010.09.07 08:56:00 -
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Don¦t buy ATI.
I have a 4670 myself and deathly afraid of upgrading the damn drivers. It doesn¦t switch to idle speeds properly. When in dual monitor mode and over-clocked the second (or both) display start "tittering".
Some games have real problems with the card to the point of having to switch features of to have it run stable. Best thing is it¦s VERY random if the bugs hit you.
Would not buy again. 
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.09.07 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 07/09/2010 09:26:23
Yeah, I have a mild aversion towards ATI for similar reasons too. It's not completely justified, but meh, nothing ever completely is.
I just bought myself a 460GTX (that one but not from there) for my new machine (where expectations of reliability and performance were more important than raw price/performance ratios), and a "HIS" HD4350 (similar to this one) as replacement for the fried 8500GT card in my old machine (where I just needed something cheap that worked adequately, so price/performance mattered most).
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Grez
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.07 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: ivar R'dhak
Don¦t buy ATI.
I have a 4670 myself and deathly afraid of upgrading the damn drivers. It doesn¦t switch to idle speeds properly. When in dual monitor mode and over-clocked the second (or both) display start "tittering".
Some games have real problems with the card to the point of having to switch features of to have it run stable. Best thing is it¦s VERY random if the bugs hit you.
Would not buy again.
Only an issue on the 4xxx series, which will be fixed in a hotfix apparently. Never had any issues with my 4870 other than with the latest drivers (and it's not difficult to hold off upgrading them as they hold no performance benefits to me in any games I play). My 4870 also switches to idle speeds instantly - I'd suggest it might actually be the vendor BIOS that's at fault. Check for an update ;).
My 5850 switches to INSANE idle speeds when not running (less than 200Mhz core clock, and then ramps up to full speed the moment I use 2D/3D acceleration). 5750 is a great card, and with it being so cheap you can EASILY crossfire it.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.07 11:23:00 -
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I'm still running a HD3850 and I ma still very happy with it.
If you're looking for a new card, well thinks to look at are teh number of stream processors (very important, the more the merrier) and compare things like the varying clock speeds.
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whiteshark12
The Black Rabbits Academy
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2010.09.07 20:53:00 -
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so if ATI is despised, what would be the intel "equal" to the HD5830?
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Grez
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.07 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: whiteshark12
so if ATI is despised, what would be the intel "equal" to the HD5830?
Lol, Intel.
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whiteshark12
The Black Rabbits Academy
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2010.09.07 21:07:00 -
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lolololol, i meant nvidia. my bad, i was thinking of CPUs
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.09.07 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 07/09/2010 21:33:57
Originally by: whiteshark12
so if ATI is despised, what would be the intel NVIDIA "equal" to the HD5830?
There's no perfect direct equivalency between ATI and NVIDIA cards, the same pair of cards can have one clear winner in some games but the other one will win out in others, even if everything else in the machine is not touched.
Also, quite a lot of the higher-end cards have slightly different performances between manufacturers even at identical frequencies, then you also factor in the occasional stock frequency differences on identically-named cards, let alone the many factory-overclocked cards.
That being said, the closest to a HD5830 would probably have to be a 250GTS, but the ATI supports DX11 while the NVIDIA only supports DX10... so the comparison would be on a purely "DX10 performance" basis.
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ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2010.09.07 23:59:00 -
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Here¦s a chart with a rough price comparison. It¦s in German but pretty self explanatory. Should give you the proper things to google for.
Good luck.
Still hoping ATi will get the heads out of their asses and fix these damn drivers.
Thnx for the heads up on the hotfix. Crossing fingers.
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