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El 'Jefe
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Posted - 2004.12.28 16:58:00 -
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Fermionic Condensates - Around 35k per
Ferrogel - Around 10k per
OR
Caesarium Cadmide - Around 5k per
Dysporite - Around 6k per
Ferrofluid - Around 6k per
Fluxed Condensates - Around 7k per
Hexite - Around 5k per
Hyperflurite - Around 7k per
Prometium - Around 7k per
Would those prices work for POS owners? If not, please give your suggestions on pricing...
No flames needed...
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El 'Jefe
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Posted - 2004.12.28 16:58:00 -
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Fermionic Condensates - Around 35k per
Ferrogel - Around 10k per
OR
Caesarium Cadmide - Around 5k per
Dysporite - Around 6k per
Ferrofluid - Around 6k per
Fluxed Condensates - Around 7k per
Hexite - Around 5k per
Hyperflurite - Around 7k per
Prometium - Around 7k per
Would those prices work for POS owners? If not, please give your suggestions on pricing...
No flames needed...
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Shintai
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Posted - 2004.12.28 17:53:00 -
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I would advice to wait after january patch. POS will be reajusted there 
But the prices looks quite ok at the current operation cost.
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Shintai
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Posted - 2004.12.28 17:53:00 -
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I would advice to wait after january patch. POS will be reajusted there
But the prices looks quite ok at the current operation cost.
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El 'Jefe
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Posted - 2004.12.28 17:56:00 -
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Where did you see notes about a January patch?
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El 'Jefe
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Posted - 2004.12.28 17:56:00 -
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Where did you see notes about a January patch?
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2004.12.28 17:59:00 -
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 Originally by: El 'Jefe
Fermionic Condensates - Around 35k per
Ferrogel - Around 10k per
OR
Caesarium Cadmide - Around 5k per
Dysporite - Around 6k per
Ferrofluid - Around 6k per
Fluxed Condensates - Around 7k per
Hexite - Around 5k per
Hyperflurite - Around 7k per
Prometium - Around 7k per
Would those prices work for POS owners? If not, please give your suggestions on pricing...
No flames needed...
That would still put cost of reactor production around 50k or so pr unit, which is still way higher than what CCP did picture them, although with a player driven market *shrougs* its all about supply and demand.
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2004.12.28 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: El 'Jefe
Fermionic Condensates - Around 35k per
Ferrogel - Around 10k per
OR
Caesarium Cadmide - Around 5k per
Dysporite - Around 6k per
Ferrofluid - Around 6k per
Fluxed Condensates - Around 7k per
Hexite - Around 5k per
Hyperflurite - Around 7k per
Prometium - Around 7k per
Would those prices work for POS owners? If not, please give your suggestions on pricing...
No flames needed...
That would still put cost of reactor production around 50k or so pr unit, which is still way higher than what CCP did picture them, although with a player driven market *shrougs* its all about supply and demand.
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El 'Jefe
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Posted - 2004.12.28 22:48:00 -
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Anyone else...would you sell your reactions at these prices currently?
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El 'Jefe
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Posted - 2004.12.28 22:48:00 -
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Anyone else...would you sell your reactions at these prices currently?
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wark
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Posted - 2004.12.29 11:04:00 -
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Fermionic Condensates at 35K is way to high. I have/would never buy them higher than 15K
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wark
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Posted - 2004.12.29 11:04:00 -
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Fermionic Condensates at 35K is way to high. I have/would never buy them higher than 15K
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wark
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Posted - 2004.12.29 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: El 'Jefe
Where did you see notes about a January patch?
The devs told mid januari there will be a patch, which will also adjust mission offers, more tags in loot,...
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wark
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Posted - 2004.12.29 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: El 'Jefe
Where did you see notes about a January patch?
The devs told mid januari there will be a patch, which will also adjust mission offers, more tags in loot,...
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Deovina
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Posted - 2004.12.29 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: wark
Fermionic Condensates at 35K is way to high. I have/would never buy them higher than 15K
You can't even produce them for 35k...
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Deovina
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Posted - 2004.12.29 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: wark
Fermionic Condensates at 35K is way to high. I have/would never buy them higher than 15K
You can't even produce them for 35k...
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voidvim
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Posted - 2004.12.29 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: voidvim on 29/12/2004 17:40:14
Their are three or so ways of look at a fair price of adavanced materials.
(1) if you mine ice your self it's free (we will include hauling as well). Thus pos operating cost is only 7 million or so
a week. Thus CPP is worng that pos have a expencive up keep compared to start cost.
(2) even if you mine ice your self you have to compare you time mining to other ways of making ice like mining in 1.0. Thus
pos operating cost is about 40 million a week taking in to acount that most people use very little grid and isotopes can be
brought for 325. Thus CPP is right that pos have a expencive up keep compared to start cost, about 1/3 of the starting
cost.
(3) People compare adavenced material prices to agent running selling adavenced material after recycling the tech II parts
they get. Pos own thus have to compeat with agent running prices if you pick (1) then it's not a problem as your still be
making a profit. If on the hand you pick (2) your find it very hard to balance your books.
(A) people consider their pos a mineral mining out post and the moon harvestoring a extra. They could pick (1) or (2) but
either way their cost are covered by the mineral. But as they see their moon material as a extra would not mind sell below
option (2).
(B) Also people buy raw and processed material that add to the their final cost for the advanced material. People could use option (1) or (2) as thier base cost.
so...
Originally by: wark
Fermionic Condensates at 35K is way to high. I have/would never buy them higher than 15K
wark can buy Fermionic Condensates on the market for 10k to 15k
but...
Originally by: Deovina
You can't even produce them for 35k...
but Me thinks Deovina uses option (2) and maybe option (B) thus will not sell below 35k their no point making a loss.
so it is rather hard to work out a fair price for advanced materials as people have hugely differnt costs as their idea of what it actual costs are different.
P.S.
Our corp is very much a option (2) corp thus our opinion and this post is slant so.
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voidvim
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Posted - 2004.12.29 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: voidvim on 29/12/2004 17:40:14
Their are three or so ways of look at a fair price of adavanced materials.
(1) if you mine ice your self it's free (we will include hauling as well). Thus pos operating cost is only 7 million or so
a week. Thus CPP is worng that pos have a expencive up keep compared to start cost.
(2) even if you mine ice your self you have to compare you time mining to other ways of making ice like mining in 1.0. Thus
pos operating cost is about 40 million a week taking in to acount that most people use very little grid and isotopes can be
brought for 325. Thus CPP is right that pos have a expencive up keep compared to start cost, about 1/3 of the starting
cost.
(3) People compare adavenced material prices to agent running selling adavenced material after recycling the tech II parts
they get. Pos own thus have to compeat with agent running prices if you pick (1) then it's not a problem as your still be
making a profit. If on the hand you pick (2) your find it very hard to balance your books.
(A) people consider their pos a mineral mining out post and the moon harvestoring a extra. They could pick (1) or (2) but
either way their cost are covered by the mineral. But as they see their moon material as a extra would not mind sell below
option (2).
(B) Also people buy raw and processed material that add to the their final cost for the advanced material. People could use option (1) or (2) as thier base cost.
so...
Originally by: wark
Fermionic Condensates at 35K is way to high. I have/would never buy them higher than 15K
wark can buy Fermionic Condensates on the market for 10k to 15k
but...
Originally by: Deovina
You can't even produce them for 35k...
but Me thinks Deovina uses option (2) and maybe option (B) thus will not sell below 35k their no point making a loss.
so it is rather hard to work out a fair price for advanced materials as people have hugely differnt costs as their idea of what it actual costs are different.
P.S.
Our corp is very much a option (2) corp thus our opinion and this post is slant so.
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Helmut 314
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Posted - 2004.12.29 17:56:00 -
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Well, whoever is recycling reactors and selling fermionic condensates for 15k is IMO not right in the head. You get lots more by selling the reactors than recycling and selling the results if all you get is 15k for fermionic condensates.
A reasonable pricepoint for fermionic condensates is 40-60k. Im more than willing to buy them for 35k a piece. I can take 2000 units right here and now at that price. Heck, Im willing to make that a weekly contract. Oh, and I can buy equal amounts of Ferrogel for 10k each as well. If you are interested, send me a eve-mail.
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Helmut 314
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Posted - 2004.12.29 17:56:00 -
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Well, whoever is recycling reactors and selling fermionic condensates for 15k is IMO not right in the head. You get lots more by selling the reactors than recycling and selling the results if all you get is 15k for fermionic condensates.
A reasonable pricepoint for fermionic condensates is 40-60k. Im more than willing to buy them for 35k a piece. I can take 2000 units right here and now at that price. Heck, Im willing to make that a weekly contract. Oh, and I can buy equal amounts of Ferrogel for 10k each as well. If you are interested, send me a eve-mail.
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Trying is the first step of failure
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Crunschi
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Posted - 2004.12.29 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Helmut 314
A reasonable pricepoint for fermionic condensates is 40-60k.
It doesn't matter what you think is reasonable. What is important is for how much people are able to produce them and what kind of profit they want to make.
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Crunschi
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Posted - 2004.12.29 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Helmut 314
A reasonable pricepoint for fermionic condensates is 40-60k.
It doesn't matter what you think is reasonable. What is important is for how much people are able to produce them and what kind of profit they want to make.
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Rawne Karrde
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Posted - 2004.12.29 18:20:00 -
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On that note, anyone selling fluxed condensates or dysporite conve me and we can talk price.
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Rawne Karrde
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Posted - 2004.12.29 18:20:00 -
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On that note, anyone selling fluxed condensates or dysporite conve me and we can talk price.
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Helmut 314
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Posted - 2004.12.29 18:31:00 -
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Well, Im just expressing my considered opinion. I have done the math and its quite possible to produce significant quantities of Fermionic Condensates for 35k per unit and make a very decent profit after costs.
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Helmut 314
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Posted - 2004.12.29 18:31:00 -
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Well, Im just expressing my considered opinion. I have done the math and its quite possible to produce significant quantities of Fermionic Condensates for 35k per unit and make a very decent profit after costs.
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Trying is the first step of failure
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Mistress D'Malice
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Posted - 2004.12.29 18:31:00 -
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Thats roughly what I pay now....give or take a bit.
Depending on where in the process flow you want to stand, these prices are workable.
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Mistress D'Malice
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Posted - 2004.12.29 18:31:00 -
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Thats roughly what I pay now....give or take a bit.
Depending on where in the process flow you want to stand, these prices are workable.
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PenguinJim
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Posted - 2004.12.29 20:15:00 -
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As a tech2 producer...
I would prefer to buy advanced materials. As the example
Fermionic Condensates - Around 35k per
This is would pay, but not much higher, as one of the items i buy alot of "Fusion Reactors" i can easily get for 85k a unit.
If Fermionic Condensates were priced much higher it does not make it worth my while to make the reactors. |
PenguinJim
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Posted - 2004.12.29 20:15:00 -
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As a tech2 producer...
I would prefer to buy advanced materials. As the example
Fermionic Condensates - Around 35k per
This is would pay, but not much higher, as one of the items i buy alot of "Fusion Reactors" i can easily get for 85k a unit.
If Fermionic Condensates were priced much higher it does not make it worth my while to make the reactors. |
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