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Malles Istveruckt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.07 04:15:00 -
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Title says it all.
Current avg. to EvE server 425ms (tested over 2 days and deviation is very low).
Would prefer a free solution but all options considered. I googled it but it did my head in. 
Thanks
Malles
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Xina Tutor
Amarr
Black Arrows
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.09.07 04:19:00 -
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That's pretty much normal ping... I have it and well... live with it. With experience you can compensate for it to some extent but it does mean you have to work a lot harder in fleets and such. But I do pvp and do reasonably well, so it's doable.
Of course, for me, this is a good ping. I started EVE while on satelite with an 1400-1800 ping... Now THAT was tough.
The joys of living in Oz.. heh
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.09.07 04:41:00 -
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CCP should check sometime whether EVE has the TCP_NODELAY option, on its sockets ;)
Blizzard found that this reduced Australian ping times from 600ms to 300ms with no further code changes, since their game was designed and tested by folks in the continental USA, for folks in the continental USA.
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Zyris
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Posted - 2010.09.07 04:51:00 -
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In agreement
im further south of perth and get 470-480.
There's not much you can do realy other than find an isp that has a shorter/faster link the rest of the world. But given your location thats not going to have any major effect.
That said I'm pretty happy with how well eve handles the higher ping.
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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.07 05:01:00 -
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Well you just got hit by an Earthquake so I would assume thats whats causing the high ping in Austria
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Kireiina
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Posted - 2010.09.07 05:14:00 -
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That sort of ping is pretty normal. There's some services (Lowerping) used by WoW players but they're all going to be heading for the US so not much use for Eve.
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Tavin Aikisen
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.09.07 05:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Musical Fist
Well you just got hit by an Earthquake so I would assume thats whats causing the high ping in Austria
With all the information available on the Internet... people are still able to make ridiculous comments like that...
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.09.07 05:16:00 -
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Blame the fact that the aussies have two 56k modems running in async as their internats backbone connection to the rest of the world.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
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Originally by: Ryhss
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Win Gemst
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Posted - 2010.09.07 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Blame the fact that the aussies have two 56k modems running in async as their internats backbone connection to the rest of the world.
Were working on it..
Should be only equaled by the s korean network by the time its finished..
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Noun Verber
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.07 06:28:00 -
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Solution: Move to Europe (closer to servers).
We'll get bad lag to all overseas games.
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Polly Prissypantz
Dingleberry Appreciation Society
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Posted - 2010.09.07 07:00:00 -
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There's nothing particularly wrong with 400-500ping, especially in such a slow game as Eve. About the only thing a high ping is going to penalise you on is locking fast targets at gates. That's about it really. If you're having any other issues it would more likely be packet loss on a crappy line or a cheapass ISP, and not your ping.
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.07 08:32:00 -
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I got an avarage of 59 ping form where I live. I guess you could always move close to the servers :)
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.07 08:56:00 -
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Hi.. Same city.. You have a better ping that me.. I have never seen it as an issue.. (I have pirate alts that have no issues getting kills)
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.09.07 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Noun Verber
Solution: Move to Europe (closer to servers).
We'll get bad lag to all overseas games.
Or start a thread requesting the servers are moved to Australia
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.07 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jita Alt666
Originally by: Noun Verber
Solution: Move to Europe (closer to servers).
We'll get bad lag to all overseas games.
Or start a thread requesting the servers are moved to Australia
Second.. Move them here and then employ me. I do good work (and I know my way around many OSs).
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.07 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Jita Alt666
Originally by: Noun Verber
Solution: Move to Europe (closer to servers).
We'll get bad lag to all overseas games.
Or start a thread requesting the servers are moved to Australia
Second.. Move them here and then employ me. I do good work (and I know my way around many OSs).
Lana Torrin Will be running EVE!
Think about it, Lana Torrin! It will be that new Corptheft video, cept for everyone!
I baselessly assume!
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.09.07 09:17:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Jita Alt666
Originally by: Noun Verber
Solution: Move to Europe (closer to servers).
We'll get bad lag to all overseas games.
Or start a thread requesting the servers are moved to Australia
Second.. Move them here and then employ me. I do good work (and I know my way around many OSs).
If they did, I too would throw my hat in the ring
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Tara Moss
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Posted - 2010.09.07 09:17:00 -
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Aussie here, and I don't think you're the only one.
There are low-ping services dedicated to WoW (I refer you to this discussion) but there is no such service for Eve as far as I'm aware. Hopefully that will change as more mmo's enter the market.
It does mean I'm more hesitant to fly ships that need fast reaction times like interceptors and the like, but for the most part it's not a big issue and unlikely to be a deciding factor in fights unless it's very evenly matched or you're getting super lag.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.09.07 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tara Moss
Aussie here, and I don't think you're the only one.
There are low-ping services dedicated to WoW (I refer you to this discussion) but there is no such service for Eve as far as I'm aware. Hopefully that will change as more mmo's enter the market.
It does mean I'm more hesitant to fly ships that need fast reaction times like interceptors and the like, but for the most part it's not a big issue and unlikely to be a deciding factor in fights unless it's very evenly matched or you're getting super lag.
Aussie PVP guide:
Dont fly tackle or ships likely to be primaried.
Only fly in fleets with competent target callers.
Always shoot the tertiary.
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felchergod
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Posted - 2010.09.07 09:30:00 -
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Plenty of people do just fine playing from Australia ie Awox.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.09.07 09:56:00 -
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Edited by: Tres Farmer on 07/09/2010 09:56:04
Originally by: Jita Alt666
Originally by: Tara Moss
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Aussie PVP guide:
Dont fly tackle or ships likely to be primaried.
Only fly in fleets with competent target callers.
Always shoot the tertiary.
Good it's late and I hadn't any drink with me.. you made my day mate! thx
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Banecanth
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Posted - 2010.09.07 10:03:00 -
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Edited by: Banecanth on 07/09/2010 10:03:37
Originally by: Malles Istveruckt
Title says it all.
Current avg. to EvE server 425ms (tested over 2 days and deviation is very low).
Would prefer a free solution but all options considered. I googled it but it did my head in.
Thanks
Malles
I use this Leatrix Latency Fix and it can cut latency by a fair amount. Back in my foolish days of youth (WoW days) I used it and it cut my latency from 300 to about 150-200.
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Meridith Akesia
Men of Questionable Moral Fibre
The Worst Alliance in Eve
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Posted - 2010.09.07 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Jita Alt666
Originally by: Noun Verber
Solution: Move to Europe (closer to servers).
We'll get bad lag to all overseas games.
Or start a thread requesting the servers are moved to Australia
Second.. Move them here and then employ me. I do good work (and I know my way around many OSs).
I support this Product and/or Service.
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Gunnanmon
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.09.07 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Noun Verber
Solution: Move to Europe (closer to servers).
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Malles Istveruckt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.07 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Banecanth
I use this Leatrix Latency Fix and it can cut latency by a fair amount. Back in my foolish days of youth (WoW days) I used it and it cut my latency from 300 to about 150-200.
Tried it but didn't seem to make a difference but thanks for the input, mate.
Originally by: Gunnanmon
Originally by: Noun Verber
Solution: Move to Europe (closer to servers).
Having lived long term in both Europe and the USA I would prefer to have a .5 second ping in Perth rather than live in either of those places again with a .05 ping. No offence.
Thanks to everyone else for the input. I lol'd and learned something. 
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Disposeble Alt
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.07 13:55:00 -
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I think your biggest problem is simply location.
It might be possibly to get some improvements if there are services that have access to a more direct connection (either trough a more direct route or going trough less switches and routers or perhaps both)
But I do not see that happening anytime soon, as such a new connection would require a huge investment and it would avoid quite a few high population centers in the area
Might as well start hoping they will drill a direct connetion to central europe halveway trough the earth, or discover a means of data transport that faster than we have availeble now and less hampered by distance or (semi?) solid matter between the transmission points.
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Malles Istveruckt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.07 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Disposeble Alt
I think your biggest problem is simply location.
It might be possibly to get some improvements if there are services that have access to a more direct connection (either trough a more direct route or going trough less switches and routers or perhaps both)
But I do not see that happening anytime soon, as such a new connection would require a huge investment and it would avoid quite a few high population centers in the area
Might as well start hoping they will drill a direct connetion to central europe halveway trough the earth, or discover a means of data transport that faster than we have availeble now and less hampered by distance or (semi?) solid matter between the transmission points.
Yeah, I kinda figured that but I thought there might be a 'magic bullet' that I wasn't aware of. Can't say I didn't try!
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.09.07 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Disposeble Alt
I think your biggest problem is simply location.
Pretty much :)
Traffic from Perth to London has to go across the country, hop off the continent in Queensland somewhere, take a trip via Hawaii, stop at PAX, bounce across the continental USA, hop off the continent somewhere on the East coast, swim over the Atlantic, hit London, then go all the way back.
You'd think the cable from Perth to Singapore would help, but most traffic is routed around it due to poor throughput. So instead of 200ms ping times, Western Australians have to suffer with their packets doing two trips of 3/4 the way around the world.
Once the Asian route becomes better provisioned (hint: the cable would have to transit Pakistan & Afghanistan), there may be some hope for Australian gamers :)
So to get better ping times in EVE Online: step 1: bring about world peace.
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Elvira Evidence
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Posted - 2010.09.07 15:40:00 -
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So, with 16.000km straight line, i¦d guess 20.000km as the cables are going you have a ping of about half a sec.
As a ping goes to the server and back thats 40.000km in half a sec to reach you again.
Electrical energy comes with a flow speed of 299.792.458 meters per sec.
Your ping is 40.000.000 meters per sec fast.
With all that networking cards and servers taking the rest of your speed.
Your very best ping with a massive private cable would be 56,6 i¦d say you do pretty fine unless you got some millions to spend on a cable from your computer to the servers ;-)
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Nicole Camerons
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Posted - 2010.09.07 23:06:00 -
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Edited by: Nicole Camerons on 07/09/2010 23:07:36
Consider changing ISP to Internode.
They've got a new international link that goes from perth->singapore->london.
http://www.internode.on.net/pdf/network/internode-international-ip-network.pdf
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King Pleasure
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Posted - 2010.09.08 00:21:00 -
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What're you doing living in Perth?
But really as someone from QLD, I can't talk.
Only think I can suggest is make sure that Eve is the only thing using your internet. There are programs you can find which keep an eye on that kind of thing.
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Fishslapper
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Posted - 2010.09.08 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Nicole Camerons
Edited by: Nicole Camerons on 07/09/2010 23:07:36
Consider changing ISP to Internode.
They've got a new international link that goes from perth->singapore->london.
http://www.internode.on.net/pdf/network/internode-international-ip-network.pdf
And Internode has by far the most professional, most technically competent, customer focus helpdesk out there... Sure, you pay a few bucks more, but it's about the only ISP that are willing to hunt down gaming latency issues for you... They are by far the best ISP for gamers in Australia...
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.09.08 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Musical Fist
Well you just got hit by an Earthquake so I would assume thats whats causing the high ping in Austria
No seriously
Originally by: CCP Oveur
I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Malles Istveruckt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.08 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Nicole Camerons
Consider changing ISP to Internode.
They've got a new international link that goes from perth->singapore->london.
http://www.internode.on.net/pdf/network/internode-international-ip-network.pdf
Just had a look and they a waaayyy too expensive. But they do look good. I might have to speak with the Mrs. Also we have been with our ISP for six years and we have a good relationship with them - they waive lots of fees. 
When I origially posted I thought mine was an isolated case but it seems we're all in the same boat over here...
If anyone in Perth are getting 200ms please let us know how you do it!
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Treasure Seaker
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Posted - 2010.09.08 02:27:00 -
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perth here. I use tpg and was getting around 400. Tried all sorts of things to
get it lower. In the end it was the little box on the wall outside the house where
the line comes in. Moisture had got in. Once it was changed i got a ping around
270 to 320 and no lag when running multiple clients.
Not sure if it helps but only takes 2 mins to look
flysafe mate
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Malles Istveruckt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.08 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Treasure Seaker
perth here. I use tpg and was getting around 400. Tried all sorts of things to
get it lower. In the end it was the little box on the wall outside the house where
the line comes in. Moisture had got in. Once it was changed i got a ping around
270 to 320 and no lag when running multiple clients.
Not sure if it helps but only takes 2 mins to look
flysafe mate
Can't find any box outside (I work from home) but this is a really, really old house and it's possible the phone wiring is dodgy. Might have to get someone to look at it.
Thanks for your input mate.
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Brannor McThife
Caldari
Brotherhood of the Ancients
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Posted - 2010.09.08 04:03:00 -
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I've run Ping Plotter for a while and found that most of the speed issues originate between the signal leaving Oz and getting to London, i.e. as it leaves, or somewhere in the US, or when it leaves the US.
Not much can be done to improve that - I'm with IINet.
I miss the 20ms MMO days of living in London...but hey, you're right. Oz >>>> London...
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Vampire PeterPan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.08 04:08:00 -
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Hi mate, I'm at gold coast and sometime i even got ping over 600. But that doesnt much affect in game. EVE is not like wow which need press button all the time and require very smooth network otherwise u cant pvp well. So accept the fact and enjoy it.
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