Originally by: Cippalippus Primus

---

Let's attack HED-GP :v

---

Originally by: Zimi Vlasic

---

I'm not sure where all this nonsense about INITdot and dot-A-dot came from about some no hotdrop policy.

-A- broke the "no hotdrop" agreement within days of making it the first time we reset, so we refused to make such a pact this last time since we knew there was no way they could be trusted.

Then we're somehow the backstabbers when we preemptively attack -A- after we got intel they were testing the waters with our allies.

You're terrible allies and huge liars. Die in a fire.

---

Originally by: Hyveres

---

Might just be me on the grunt level Liam but I cannot remember us resetting an alliance, just for GFs.

Ofcourse this only goes for the time I have been in IT.Cant really talk about history.

---

Originally by: Blaster Worm

---

Sister BlissÆs letter, written in the best tradition of GoebbelsÆs propaganda during the start of the GermanyÆs treacherous attack on the USSR, is full of lies and attempts to justify betrayal and the change of sides. For a fairly significant period of time now situation in the south has not been objectively covered so he felt secure to spread lies.

The history of the current situation starts with nync moving to WN and the start of intensive diplomatic maneuvering practically by all southern alliances. AAA received numerous offers (with goodies attached) to abandon Atlas and leave them alone but this was never even under consideration (see infamous Manfred Sideous post on CAOD with video). This maneuvering happened shortly after AAA reset of IT and the appearance of WN+XIX+RA coalition and the payment to PL. Despite this we again never even considered switching sides.

From the INIT side things were quiet different. Noticeable drop in activity happened and in practically all significant ops they never brought even half the numbers they brought to Catch yesterday. Gradually their help to Atlas became nil culminating in infamous Sister Bliss FC chat during the defense of 0-W. He was actively was lobbying to ônot take any losses and avoid fightingö and it is not hard to see why now.

During the fighting, during one of the fairly insignificant diplomatic incidents, INIT suddenly demanded that AAA hand over R64 moon in Immensea. This was highly ôirregularö response which resulted in INIT being reset by AAA and general agreement not to hotdrop supers and no sov warfare on each other. This was acceptable to AAA since INITÆs general help in fighting was not something we could count on by that point.

After Atlas fiasco (cannot really call æThe DealÆ anything but that), INIT sets PL blue and together with them hotdrop AAA supers and start to actively assemble CTAs to attack targets together with PL in Providence. At the same time they set WN blue. At this point everything becomes very clear û they have changed sides and are getting ready to attack.

At this point we contact our allies with the request to clarify their position. To the direct question to Molle about the INIT behavior (blue with PL and WN), he responded that it does not concern him. This conversation happened in the aftermath of the INIT+PL hot drop of AAA supers. In other words Sister Bliss is blatantly lieing that he was ôrespondingö to the risk of attack from AAA. The whole notion is simply preposterous.

At this time INIT+PL+WN are actively attacking AAA territory while our old allies pretend that it does not concern them. ET reset goons to help ROL and started multi-month campaign in Delve to help Bob. After Dominion AAA attacked Goons to pin them 6 capital jumps away from Fountain so IT could finish off PL. And it was AAA who ran perhaps one the most storied fleet ops in alliance when we went from saving a super-cap in D-G in providence to finishing off GoonsÆs TCU in J-L with just seconds before it onlined thereby denying them access to their capital base (Molle was attacking NOL at the same time). Clearly this is forgotten. But we do not forget.

---

Originally by: Fred0

---

What?

Blaster Worm is Aneu?!?!?

---

Originally by: Fred0

---

What?

Blaster Worm is Aneu?!?!?

---

Originally by: Sister Bliss

---

In all fairness to Blaster Worm, I doubt he was aware of the history of discussions on this moon in the many months preceding current hostilities.

---

Originally by: Liam Fremen

---

Edited by: Liam Fremen on 13/09/2010 19:03:34

Remember that one of the biggest difference between south and north of eve is that the main south alliances (AAA, Atlas) always pretended to be badass pvpers and for proving it to their membership the main rule was always the same:

As long as there is a "big bad guy" we will stay blue, as soon as that "big bad guy" dies we will all reset eachoter and "have fun with roamings and small pvp" without using caps or contending sov.

Obviously this "fun" was mostly for the said "big alliances" is proven by the facts to be a very "polite way" to provide "easy preys" for your membership and at the same time cleaning out the "old small allieds" that are not needed anymore and get removed as soon as they get a bit ****ed off while beign used as "pvp farming ground".

The problem come when the "big guys" start to die or their leaders move somewhere else (nync) and your "old small allieds" bite back

---