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LoveKebab
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Posted - 2010.09.13 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: it440 i would think the counter to the super carriers is obviously titans, everyone should be fleeting more titans!
ms does more DPS than titan... xVid4PSP MKV Encoding Tutorial |

LoveKebab
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Posted - 2010.09.13 16:55:00 -
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i was told 30 moms generate just about as much objects as 200 bs (bombers + torps) xVid4PSP MKV Encoding Tutorial |

LoveKebab
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Posted - 2010.09.14 08:35:00 -
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Edited by: LoveKebab on 14/09/2010 08:42:29
Originally by: it440 Edited by: it440 on 14/09/2010 08:18:46
Originally by: LoveKebab
Originally by: it440 i would think the counter to the super carriers is obviously titans, everyone should be fleeting more titans!
ms does more DPS than titan...
but what would happen 1v1? i dont know but titans have 3x the tank dont they?
it's just as good as trying to match an ibis vs a caracal... with the way they r being used now titan will logoff on the 1st sign of a threat
the general issue is that we would have an even match if we would put them isk wise which means 3 moms vs 1 titan and then titan would most likely lose cuz it just cant active tank 30k dps and with passive tank his buffor will disapear in what ? 10? 20 minutes? just enough for 1-2 dd which wont even put down 1 ms (add 4-5dps from close range guns to be fair) but then again moms got rr and ****
dont get me wrong, im not talking about nerfing supercaps (altho i wouldnt cry if they would be nerfed) but in case of cap warfare eve is atm Supercarrier-Online which started after Seleene's ****up with ballance...
would be fun to have a sieged dreads being able to tackle caps up to 40km with a point (i dont know how u would explain that - sieged point whatever) and the fun might come back to use them again since atm all u need is to kill hics and then its just warp out if low hp and go back couple sec l8er when enemy changes the target other idea would be to give them considerably more dps against caps and some more hp but then again they might end up overpowered :( (i suck at ballancing) and to prevent them from instapopping the toweres reduce their sig radiusos or something xVid4PSP MKV Encoding Tutorial |

LoveKebab
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Posted - 2010.09.14 10:09:00 -
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training for carrier takes routhly 5days less than for a ms (titans r off the scale with cap ships 5) unless u take the fighters 5 into equasion(which carrier pilots usually dont train) skilled pilot can earn enough isk to buy a mothership in aprox 1-2 months if he rly gets into it (it took me like 2 weeks but it was a diferent eve back then :P)
isk was never the issue in this game - isk factor mentioned by ccp back in the days when they introduced the moms and titans today is a big laugh since not only big alliances can afford titan but played on their own can buy 1 or 2 even (all hail to t2 bpo) xVid4PSP MKV Encoding Tutorial |

LoveKebab
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Posted - 2010.09.14 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Hadiax
Originally by: Impact1983
Originally by: LoveKebab
Originally by: it440 i would think the counter to the super carriers is obviously titans, everyone should be fleeting more titans!
ms does more DPS than titan...
And there is currently no counter to a mom, unless you plan on bring 10-15 pilots per mom pilot which would be hard as I can easy get 30 man fleets but how am I going to grab 200 man fleets to counter 20 moms?
We need a counter which the current dread is mothballed so why not work in a counter with the dread???
And yes a mom is = to 10 or 15 cruisers maybe bc so we need a realistic counter to them not just lagging out the system with 200 man fleets.
So in essence you're complaining that you can't beat a mom with 15 cruisers or battlecruisers? I mean seriously? A 20bil ship can't be beaten by 15 10-ish or even 15 100-ish mil ships? Damn I NEVER saw that comming!
Obviously if your fleet consists at out cruisers & battlecruisers moms will eat you.
Same goes for a dread, you cannot make a 1bil ship take on a 15bil one, that's absurd.
Yes a solution has to be found, but just random boosting a dread for instance is not it. Maybe another ship (like a dread but then mom size & priced) that is the same 'upgraded' version of a dread as the mom is off the carrier.
following ur logic - u CAN kill 60bil ship with 3x 20bil ships without much problem... ofc there is always the tackling issue but the point stands xVid4PSP MKV Encoding Tutorial |
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