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Na'tar
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Posted - 2010.09.18 19:26:00 -
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Hey..
I have now been skilling for atleast a week or more.. Up to 500.000SP now.
I used 1 of my remap's after just a few days, When i read 1 of the skill posts on
the forum. That suggested since most things have either Int or Preception, to go higher with those...
Well that is kinda the reason Im asking If i should start another 1 instead and hold my remaps for allot later.
Still have 1 left, but thats 1 less then maybe what i could need further down the road..
The way I am going is kinda.. Pilot.. Black Ops way. Still want to PvP and run missions..
Just joined not to long ago, so probably made a few mistakes... 1 of em using 1 remap lol..
So Should I restart? Or is it fine as it is.. Kinda sucks to loose that SP though(Its allot of SP for a rookie lol)
And any skills I should focus on before others.. Kinda know learning skills and all.. So been balancing them with other skills..
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Ringo Jeicha
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.09.18 20:18:00 -
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Bust a few trials to get the hang of the game, only then sub the trial account you are the most happy with.
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Minmatar
Heatseekers
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Posted - 2010.09.18 20:26:00 -
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If you have used one remap so early, yeah probably restart
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Irae Ragwan
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Posted - 2010.09.18 20:32:00 -
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Black ops is something you won't be effective at for years to come. Pick a new goal and make it just a tiny bit more realistic. I suggest a battlecruiser, cruiser, or assault frigate/interceptor.
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L'Howen Pendragon
Gallente
Loyal Order Of Bacchus
Celestial Tribesmen
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Posted - 2010.09.19 03:21:00 -
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BlackOps is something you can do within a year easy, the problem is that even so, you need a lot of money and other skills to make it functional. I've had my character for a few months and I can already fly a Covert Ops ship, doesn't mean I am going to though.
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Irae Ragwan
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Posted - 2010.09.19 03:33:00 -
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 Originally by: L'Howen Pendragon
BlackOps is something you can do within a year easy, the problem is that even so, you need a lot of money and other skills to make it functional. I've had my character for a few months and I can already fly a Covert Ops ship, doesn't mean I am going to though.
And having some kind of income is part of being effective. As is having a FULL support skillset for a ship of that caliber. I can train an alt to fly a carrier in no-time, but that's hardly worth it (except as a placeholder in case of supercarrier). I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or disagreeing (little of both?), but I can assure you that one specialized to black ops from the get-go is going to have a horrible time of things unless he likes selling PLEX to replace all those lost ships.
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Lost Greybeard
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Posted - 2010.09.19 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: L'Howen Pendragon
BlackOps is something you can do within a year easy, the problem is that even so, you need a lot of money and other skills to make it functional. I've had my character for a few months and I can already fly a Covert Ops ship, doesn't mean I am going to though.
You can fit a stealth bomber for PvE and rat just fine in 0.0, which is around 2 to 3 stealth bombers/hour in isk. That covers your boring PvE stuff. The fun PvP stuff goes without saying.
And if you're into industry/invention, you can get most of your secondary materials by using the other covops ship to scan down 0.0 sites and then using your PvE bomber fit to run them.
So while I agree with you about Black Ops having a really high arbitrary training barrier (several months just to sit in the ships) I feel like CovOps is a fairly nice intermediate point at which to sit while your lame skills train up.
(Full disclosure: The closest I intend to come to Black Ops is maybe grabbing cyno operation 5 and being the other end of the bridge.)
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Na'tar
Gallente
Interstellar Newcomers Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.19 06:55:00 -
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ty all for the info..
Sadly I already have begun subscribing.. I have sold a plex when I found out I could do so.
To get some ISK to begin with, I have trained quite abit of diff skills, So far I can fly cruisers and gottem far for being in the game not to long.
So restarting will be abit sad, but I dunno, reason I thought black ops, was the exploring and also then playing some PvP with other ships. So kinda not
just planning to go exploring/selvaging route, want to join war and big fights to. I try to read up as best and try finding all the info i can to
not make to many mistakes, but used 1 remap, so annoys me allot. But do I still restart? Subscribed and got abit of money already on this char.
Ty for your answers so far. :)
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Florio
Miniature Giant Space Hamsters
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Posted - 2010.09.19 08:11:00 -
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It would be easier to help you if we could see what you currently have. Stick Na'tar onto http://eveboard.com.
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Na'tar
Gallente
Interstellar Newcomers Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.19 08:46:00 -
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Edited by: Na''tar on 19/09/2010 08:52:05
Link to my toon.. Na'tar
K I have now added myself to eveboard, so you can now see what i have trained and so on.
My wallet is hidden, but sold 1 plex.. So have quite abit of money on the char already as mentioned..
So check my char out and give me some insight if you could. I know 1 thing and that is PvP warfare with
corps and alliances, is something I really want to participate in. So my way will include PvP Pilot..
The Black Ops/Exploring thing is something I want to do on the side, now that I think of it I mean..
So my choice in Career will b military PvP Pilot, with some salvaging/exploring/hacking on the side..
If that sounds possible, I am still a newbie and have allot to learn. But always try to read and such
to get all the info I can. I just got so into the game and when my trial account could not train some
things I wanted, I subscribed abit quick and didnt think of the points I had picked and then followed
a very good skill post in the guide thing, that linked to a forum on this point. Saying Int/Perception
was the most used all in all, so I used my first remap on that. Oh well, dunno what I should do.
Part of me wants to stick with it, since I have done several things I am happy with, but still I have
waisted 1 remap and that Is the only thing I find a problem. Cuz most of the skills I have skilled,
are either secondary skills, Learning skills or Pilot skills. Skilled mining abit and such, but In the long run
the small skill mistakes I have made, wont be a big deal. As I dont mind some extra time skilling tbh...
I am a patient guy and well have ALLOT of time on my hands lol... But yea, the remap mistakes is what bothers me.
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Nikolai Kondratiev
Jita's Secure Credit and Assets Management
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Posted - 2010.09.19 12:04:00 -
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Your remap doesn't seem that bad. Remapping for max speed training is really only worth it quite later when you can afford to only train specific skills imo.
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L'Howen Pendragon
Gallente
Loyal Order Of Bacchus
Celestial Tribesmen
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Posted - 2010.09.19 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lost Greybeard
Originally by: L'Howen Pendragon
BlackOps is something you can do within a year easy, the problem is that even so, you need a lot of money and other skills to make it functional. I've had my character for a few months and I can already fly a Covert Ops ship, doesn't mean I am going to though.
You can fit a stealth bomber for PvE and rat just fine in 0.0, which is around 2 to 3 stealth bombers/hour in isk. That covers your boring PvE stuff. The fun PvP stuff goes without saying.
And if you're into industry/invention, you can get most of your secondary materials by using the other covops ship to scan down 0.0 sites and then using your PvE bomber fit to run them.
So while I agree with you about Black Ops having a really high arbitrary training barrier (several months just to sit in the ships) I feel like CovOps is a fairly nice intermediate point at which to sit while your lame skills train up.
(Full disclosure: The closest I intend to come to Black Ops is maybe grabbing cyno operation 5 and being the other end of the bridge.)
Again, as I said, just because you can jump into one doesn't mean you should ;) |
Florio
Miniature Giant Space Hamsters
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Posted - 2010.09.19 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Florio on 19/09/2010 15:43:43
Hi Na'tar. I'd say you look pretty good. That's a great set of attributes for starting out. The high perception will be good for the gunnery and spaceship skills, the high int for the (essential) support skills. I'd recommend frigate or battlecruiser to V to help out your corp in pvp, ask them which they'd prefer. Then get the relevant tech 2 weapon skills.
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Na'tar
Gallente
Interstellar Newcomers Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.19 16:20:00 -
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K Ty for the help. All of you, I will stick with it.. Good to hear that the attributes I have taken Is good tbh.
I will check with my corp what they want and be more careful in the future hehe... ty once again, see ya in game. 
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
SRS.
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Posted - 2010.09.19 18:38:00 -
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't new account get 2 remaps?
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Na'tar
Gallente
Interstellar Newcomers Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.20 03:18:00 -
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Yup, I did say 1 of my remaps in my first post. Meaning there was more then one aka 2 of them. :)
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Svorste
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Posted - 2010.09.20 16:25:00 -
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Since you sold a plex, you have a bit of isk hanging around - I'd suggest buying the advanced learning skills (don't worry about charisma). They're somewhere around 14.5 million each I think, so not cheap, but you get immediate payback in skill training speeds.
Getting your primary learning skills (Analytical Mind, Instant Recall, Spatial Awareness, Iron Will) to IV and the advanced learning skills (Logic, Eidetic Memory, Clarity, Focus) to III will supercharge your skill learning and you'll see improvements pretty quickly.
As many here will say, don't obsess about it, but throw one of these skills in your queue here and there, ideally getting basic learning skills to IV and advanced to III by the time your training time bonus expires at 1.6 million SP so they're less of a burden to train.
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Na'tar
Gallente
Interstellar Newcomers Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.21 10:38:00 -
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Yea.. Got myself some nice Implants to, so that helps ofc... And Yea will do so,
ty for the help.. Will focus abit on the learning skills to get the primary as you
mentioned to IV...
Well I would say this madder is closed. Ty again all of you, for being so helpfull to
a newbie hehe..
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Aerilis
Gallente
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.09.21 14:41:00 -
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Na'tar, that remap isn't bad at all. The only nitpick I would have with it would be that I would have put all of my points into Perc or Int, none into Mem or Will. But it's not bad at all, and much better than the attributes I went through the first few months of Eve with (blech charisma) :)
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Traska Gannel
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Posted - 2010.09.21 21:37:00 -
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Honestly, I don't see any issues with that remap. It is pretty much how my character started the game (which was before the days of remaps) - higher int and perception, a couple of points in memory and willpower. I think this is very good distribution while you figure out what you want to do ... the only problem arises if you decide you want to do trade or industry in which case you can remap later.
My advice is to enjoy the beginning :) ... the first month of Eve can be quite different from the rest as you learn the game. In addition, since everyone can learn all skills ... there is really no point in changing characters unless you prefer the appearance of another one ... the difference in beginning skills between the different options can be made up in a week or less typically.
Finally, if there is something that you want to do specifically, you can get there very quickly by focused training.
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