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Public Opinionator	Posted - 2010.09.20 16:31:00 - [1] hi - So, my corp is made up of 4 RL friends plus a bunch of Eve players we've met along the way, and we have been playing together for several years. In those years we have tried a bunch of stuff (0.0, WH's, FW) but now we are down to just the 4 RL friends and 2 of them have started to lose interest, so for something new we have started wardecing high-sec corps. This has been a mixed bag so far - from the 6 wardecced corps, 2 disbanded, 1 moved to a new region, 1 moved in a wh, 1 stayed and fought (and much kudos to them!) and one just seemed to never come online again, and we're feeling a little frustrated by this. We enjoy the actual mechanics of highsec wars and want to continue, but I was hoping others might have some suggestions for the best way to pick targets. So far we have always tried to pick corps with at least 3-5x as many members as we have, we stay away from mining and industrial corps (not looking to pick on people, just to pick fights) and mostly went with the "we are high sec mission runners who like to throw PVP into our recruitment threads to cover all bases", but they all vanish to the wind... So - how do you pick who YOU start wars with?
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2010.09.20 16:39:00 - [2] I find having a reason to annoy someone comes in handy if you want to provoke a reaction. --- ☻♥ Problem? Therapy sessions ♥☻
Roland Deschaines Brutor tribe	Posted - 2010.09.20 16:43:00 - [3] Go around playing can flipping games, look for other can flippers / baiters, find some that are bad, dec them. The importance of this, however, is nothing compared to the necessity of having an indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started. -- Monsieur Rolly
Lady Ayeipsia	Posted - 2010.09.20 16:51:00 - [4] Might I suggest wardeccing Red Fed or Blue Republic? When I was a part of Red Fed, we usually did not go off on too many 3rd party wartarget roams. We stuck to fighting each other, focusing on the War Targets only when they came to harass us. It would basically give you a willing group of PvPers to practice against. Otherwise, go camp a common mission hub. Start recording what corps are there, how many members of said corps you see active, etc. Do your homework and really research your targets. Check Battle Clinic to see if any of the members have been killed often. Basically look for those people who tend to keep missioning when wardecced. Lastly, do the Jita camp. Find a big enough corp, war dec them, then camp Jita for targets. Not saying it's the best, but it may work. And if all of that fails, maybe you should join factional warfare for the PvP aspect of it.
Velocity Prime Misfit Toys	Posted - 2010.09.20 17:33:00 - [5] Originally by: Public Opinionator hi - So, my corp is made up of 4 RL friends plus a bunch of Eve players we've met along the way, and we have been playing together for several years. In those years we have tried a bunch of stuff (0.0, WH's, FW) but now we are down to just the 4 RL friends and 2 of them have started to lose interest, so for something new we have started wardecing high-sec corps. This has been a mixed bag so far - from the 6 wardecced corps, 2 disbanded, 1 moved to a new region, 1 moved in a wh, 1 stayed and fought (and much kudos to them!) and one just seemed to never come online again, and we're feeling a little frustrated by this. We enjoy the actual mechanics of highsec wars and want to continue, but I was hoping others might have some suggestions for the best way to pick targets. So far we have always tried to pick corps with at least 3-5x as many members as we have, we stay away from mining and industrial corps (not looking to pick on people, just to pick fights) and mostly went with the "we are high sec mission runners who like to throw PVP into our recruitment threads to cover all bases", but they all vanish to the wind... So - how do you pick who YOU start wars with? The Toymaker tells us who to shoot, and thus we are obligated to do his bidding. He told me you should contact me in game too. We're recruiting! Visit my blog.
Barakkus Ishukone Institute of Technology	Posted - 2010.09.20 17:59:00 - [6] Sit in Elonaya for an hour or two and pick some targets from all the smack in local. Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Prekaz	Posted - 2010.09.20 19:48:00 - [7] If you want a stream of angry evemails, I highly recommend The Whitehound Corporation.
Aiwha Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2010.09.20 19:58:00 - [8] I beleive Skool is currently mongering wardecs. Go try to fight them. I like me. 101st Space Marine Force Senior Recruiter
Whitehound The Whitehound Corporation	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:44:00 - [9] Edited by: Whitehound on 20/09/2010 21:52:27 Originally by: Prekaz If you want a stream of angry evemails, I highly recommend The Whitehound Corporation. I am not angry, I am upset about your stupidity and need for attention. You are so dumb that you cannot say what it is you want, but one has to ask you about it. How much have you now paid for war-deccing me? Unless you have a need for attention do I not see how you are getting anything out of it. And posting on the forums for war-deccing with an alt in a one-man corp is a sign for an attention need. To the OP, check if they are a PvP corp and if they have records on BattleClinic. --
Firnas Minmatar The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory	Posted - 2010.09.20 22:33:00 - [10] This is just how it is in the high sec war business, mate. This is something I have been doing continuously for 3 years now. As an alliance, we usually have about 5 wars going at any one time, which cycle for 1 or 2 weeks for the most part. During those cycles, usually 1 war at any given point is worthwhile in the sense of kills. Especially with a mercenary alliance, where we are getting paid to do the work, it can be a bit tedious at times. With a small group of friends who aren't even being paid to do the work, I can certainly understand the frustration. To my amazement, not even the other 'mercenary' groups tend to fight back when dec'd. They usually tend to pull in chocks and hunker down for a couple weeks until it passes by. For this reason, counter dec contracts are hit and miss. You would think they would be big dustups but they dont seem to work that way.

Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.09.21 01:15:00 - [11] Originally by: Aiwha I beleive Skool is currently mongering wardecs. Go try to fight them. This.. no idea if we have anyone on during your times, and we are terrible.. But it will only cost you the initial dec then you can keep it going as long as you want.. ITS A WAR!
Dian'h Might Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated	Posted - 2010.09.21 03:40:00 - [12] Usually a target would get my initial attention through me ninja salvaging or can flipping them (local smack or being dumb enough to attack back). I know I also found another one from suicide ganking (they cried like crazy in local). Occasionally I'd just notice someone in local either fly past me or make a comment that got my attention. After getting my initial attention, I'd look for a few criteria: - at least 10+ fairly active members - An area where they all seemed to hang out at - Members who exhibited tenancies towards blaming everyone but themselves for anything bad that happened And then a few key words/phrases in the bios of all their members or the corp description: "anti-pirate/griefer/ninja salvager/can flipper" "nrds, cva friendly, etc" "we do mining, missioning, industry, and pvp" (aka "we're a bunch of disorganized people with a chat channel and never do anything as a corp") If enough of those criteria were met, we'd put in a dec, gather member names for address book, start running locators, and usually get a kill within the first few minutes of the dec (there's always an idiot who didn't check corp mail and didn't know there was a war happening). After the first kill, we'd send a ransom mail, usually get a "we don't negotiate with terrorists" type response back (the really creative ones would try to demand a ransom from us instead). After doing damage equal to the initial ransom amount demanded, we'd inform them the ransom was now doubled and point out they'd be better off having payed it initially. The key to a good highsec wardec is strong psychological warfare. Don't give them anything that will help moral (so mainly just don't loose any ships to them). Use hit and run tactics, never let them see more than 1 or 2 of you in system unless it's during an actual fight, and never smack talk them for not engaging you. Also avoid camping where they can see you camping for more than a few minutes. - - - Dian'h Might - C&Ps resident "internet kleptomaniac"
Spruillo Gallente Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.09.21 03:44:00 - [13] Originally by: Aiwha I beleive Skool is currently mongering wardecs. Go try to fight them. I will kill you.
Jonny 101 Red Federation	Posted - 2010.09.21 04:02:00 - [14] Whenever some guy insults me or one of my alts when i'm passing by high sec or a public channel, I'll put them down on my list of targets which I hand out to friends and business associates along with the war decc fee. I've lost count of how many corps and alliances i've gotten disbanded like that over the years, it's utterly hilarious. Signature needs to be more EVE related. Zymurgist
Epegi Givo Amarr Araja Clan	Posted - 2010.09.21 04:33:00 - [15] Find a merc corp and hire them to dec you. __________________________ My other alt is A Ferrari
Sir Carnage	Posted - 2010.09.21 06:54:00 - [16] Originally by: Dian'h Might e And then a few key words/phrases in the bios of all their members or the corp description: "anti-pirate/griefer/ninja salvager/can flipper" "nrds, cva friendly, etc" "we do mining, missioning, industry, and pvp" (aka "we're a bunch of disorganized people with a chat channel and never do anything as a corp") I should totally add that to the alliance description. get us some willing targets, though the last batch of "willing" targets weren't so willing when my corp showed up in high sec... I say look for some "out of their skull" t3 pilots, like myself. We're fun to shoot at and we make you fly better than you otherwise might. A mistake against a decent t3 pilot doesn't commonly end well, a mistake against a good one never does. DISCLAIMER If you plan to follow my lead in taking the t3 out to pvp with know this: Every time I try to bring my t3 out for pvp and there are other corp members around, they tell me to stop being a dumbass and to go get my phobos. No, they aren't always on when I take my t3 out to pvp. Thus, I lose a lot of t3's. There's a good reason that the corp doesn't want me taking them out to pvp. A t3 still garners attention and brings in people who otherwise may not have bothered. You will lose it, you'll just take a fair number of them with you. support the parrot
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.09.21 07:33:00 - [17] Actualy... how many people do you have in corp?? Why don't you just go to lowsec and pirate?? Its not dead yet.. (and shooting at faction war blobs is still hilarious as you watch them panic, start shooting each other, remote rep you by mistake, etc..) ITS A WAR!
Sir Carnage	Posted - 2010.09.21 08:16:00 - [18] Edited by: Sir Carnage on 21/09/2010 08:17:10 Originally by: Lana Torrin Actualy... how many people do you have in corp?? Why don't you just go to lowsec and pirate?? Its not dead yet.. (and shooting at faction war blobs is still hilarious as you watch them panic, start shooting each other, remote rep you by mistake, etc..) This, tbh. A great tactic we used for a while was to find a class 3 wormhole that tended to empty 5-10 jumps deep into low sec. Once we figured out where we and the nearest trade routes, faction warfare sites, and nullsec routes were, we'd start roaming the systems with moderate traffic for a few hours. You'll get some decent fights this way and it never stagnates for long as you're constantly moving around. edit: grammar support the parrot
CyberRaver Project Nemesis	Posted - 2010.09.21 10:21:00 - [19] Try deccing all the biggest alliances at once, then just go hunting and pick your targets or speak to rico or pit boss and join orphanage for a break and have 10+ decs a week to work off
Scoundrelus The Black Fleet	Posted - 2010.09.21 12:23:00 - [20] Originally by: Public Opinionator hi - So, my corp is made up of 4 RL friends plus a bunch of Eve players we've met along the way, and we have been playing together for several years. In those years we have tried a bunch of stuff (0.0, WH's, FW) but now we are down to just the 4 RL friends and 2 of them have started to lose interest, so for something new we have started wardecing high-sec corps. This has been a mixed bag so far - from the 6 wardecced corps, 2 disbanded, 1 moved to a new region, 1 moved in a wh, 1 stayed and fought (and much kudos to them!) and one just seemed to never come online again, and we're feeling a little frustrated by this. We enjoy the actual mechanics of highsec wars and want to continue, but I was hoping others might have some suggestions for the best way to pick targets. So far we have always tried to pick corps with at least 3-5x as many members as we have, we stay away from mining and industrial corps (not looking to pick on people, just to pick fights) and mostly went with the "we are high sec mission runners who like to throw PVP into our recruitment threads to cover all bases", but they all vanish to the wind... So - how do you pick who YOU start wars with? My corp has a team of internal and external members that seek out worthy corps to dec. We set them to -10 while scouting them out to see them in local better then we obtain as complete a member list as we can get. If you guys are interested in a small tight knit corp of carebear assassins gimme a shout. I'll arm wrestle Velocity Prime for your group.

Joe Phoenix	Posted - 2010.09.21 20:51:00 - [21] Ok so you're trying to find somthing interesting and you picked high-sec wars? Seriously i couldn't think so anything more boring! at least with mining you have a pile of ore at the end of the day!
Public Opinionator	Posted - 2010.09.22 01:07:00 - [22] Edited by: Public Opinionator on 22/09/2010 01:08:29 Thanks for all the replies - some good ideas in here - much appreciated. Originally by: Joe Phoenix Ok so you're trying to find somthing interesting and you picked high-sec wars? Seriously i couldn't think so anything more boring! at least with mining you have a pile of ore at the end of the day! from your previous posts I'm presuming you're just acting true to form and trolling, but on the off-chance you're not, if you read the OP you'll know that we've tried a lot of different stuff in EvE and we were looking for something new. The fact you find mining more interesting than PvP says a fair amount about you. So, apart from mining, what gems would you suggest? Or am I right? Are you just here to be a silly little troll?
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.09.22 02:05:00 - [23] Originally by: Public Opinionator Edited by: Public Opinionator on 22/09/2010 01:08:29 Thanks for all the replies - some good ideas in here - much appreciated. Originally by: Joe Phoenix Ok so you're trying to find somthing interesting and you picked high-sec wars? Seriously i couldn't think so anything more boring! at least with mining you have a pile of ore at the end of the day! from your previous posts I'm presuming you're just acting true to form and trolling, but on the off-chance you're not, if you read the OP you'll know that we've tried a lot of different stuff in EvE and we were looking for something new. The fact you find mining more interesting than PvP says a fair amount about you. So, apart from mining, what gems would you suggest? Or am I right? Are you just here to be a silly little troll? I still say piracy.. Your corp size seems about right and you could do it properly with ransoms and the lot.. Find a good mission runner system (the ones around level 5 agents are good, lowsec level 4 agents are fun too) and scan them down. Ransom their asses.. When it dries up a bit go find another system.. You should be able to cycle about 10-12 systems and by the time you get back to the first one the runners have come back. Failing that, lowsec mission runner protection? Get them to pay you to camp the gates and lock the system down while they run missions? You could always just join RvB if all you want is fights.. ITS A WAR!
Velocity Prime Misfit Toys	Posted - 2010.09.22 02:31:00 - [24] Originally by: Scoundrelus I'll arm wrestle Velocity Prime for your group. "Oh no he di'n't!" Originally by: Joe Phoenix Ok so you're trying to find somthing interesting and you picked high-sec wars? Seriously i couldn't think so anything more boring! at least with mining you have a pile of ore at the end of the day! Listen to Joe. You can't possibly go wrong. We're recruiting! Visit my blog.
Irae Ragwan	Posted - 2010.09.22 06:11:00 - [25] Originally by: Lana Torrin Failing that, lowsec mission runner protection? Get them to pay you to camp the gates and lock the system down while they run missions? This actually works better than one might expect. I've struck up a few deals after catching carebears in mission pockets to allow them (usually one doof and his alt logistic pilot) a bit of pve in our space. Ofc, most bears these days just refust to pony up the cash (and consequently die tragic deaths), but when it does happen you can get a nice payday for close to no effort.
Derrick'DelBoy'Tr0tter	Posted - 2010.09.22 12:13:00 - [26] Rage Immortal based in vittenyn are worth a dec, about 30 pvpers, they can flip and grief miners, Give out plenty smack but mostly fly fail fit ships, does'nt look like they have had a proper war yet. maybe you should introduce them to real pvp. or anyone else willing to flex thier muscles :)
Doktor Feeelgoood	Posted - 2010.09.22 14:47:00 - [27] You LIKE the mechanics of highsec wars? As in station hugging, docking games, neutral RR, and no bubbles (no pod kills)!?!?!?!? Oh my. Sounds like you need to find another game to play. I hear they recently nerfed the hell out of World of Warcraft and now the whole thing is easymode, maybe give that a try?
Dian'h Might Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated	Posted - 2010.09.22 15:12:00 - [28] Originally by: Doktor Feeelgoood You LIKE the mechanics of highsec wars? As in station hugging, docking games, neutral RR, and no bubbles (no pod kills)!?!?!?!? All of the points you mentioned (except for lack of bubbles) can also happen in nullsec. Also, any corp that knows what they're doing in an empire war won't camp or fight outside a station, so that covers your complaints of station hugging docking games and neutral RR. Bubbles are for scrubs who can't tackle, so I don't see the issue there. If you want to pod targets in highsec, you just need to apply some outside of the box thinking. Either kill them fast (most panic and forget to spam warp), or hold them there in structure while someone gets a throwaway cruiser with some smartbombs fitted. - - - Dian'h Might - C&Ps resident "internet kleptomaniac"
Joe Phoenix	Posted - 2010.09.22 16:24:00 - [29] Originally by: Public Opinionator Edited by: Public Opinionator on 22/09/2010 01:08:29 Thanks for all the replies - some good ideas in here - much appreciated. Originally by: Joe Phoenix Ok so you're trying to find somthing interesting and you picked high-sec wars? Seriously i couldn't think so anything more boring! at least with mining you have a pile of ore at the end of the day! from your previous posts I'm presuming you're just acting true to form and trolling, but on the off-chance you're not, if you read the OP you'll know that we've tried a lot of different stuff in EvE and we were looking for something new. The fact you find mining more interesting than PvP says a fair amount about you. So, apart from mining, what gems would you suggest? Or am I right? Are you just here to be a silly little troll? Ok first, what? Second I HATE mining, i find it deadly boring, but it is still not as boring as highsec wars! You hug a station for 8 hours a day ruining your game and ****ing somone else off, while getting no thrill out of it, not pod kills and unless your war target is EXTREAMLY STUPID, no kills either (for the most part, somtimes you get lucky).
YouShouldntEatIt Caldari Carebear University	Posted - 2010.09.22 18:26:00 - [30] Originally by: Joe Phoenix Originally by: Public Opinionator Edited by: Public Opinionator on 22/09/2010 01:08:29 Thanks for all the replies - some good ideas in here - much appreciated. Originally by: Joe Phoenix Ok so you're trying to find somthing interesting and you picked high-sec wars? Seriously i couldn't think so anything more boring! at least with mining you have a pile of ore at the end of the day! from your previous posts I'm presuming you're just acting true to form and trolling, but on the off-chance you're not, if you read the OP you'll know that we've tried a lot of different stuff in EvE and we were looking for something new. The fact you find mining more interesting than PvP says a fair amount about you. So, apart from mining, what gems would you suggest? Or am I right? Are you just here to be a silly little troll? Ok first, what? Second I HATE mining, i find it deadly boring, but it is still not as boring as highsec wars! You hug a station for 8 hours a day ruining your game and ****ing somone else off, while getting no thrill out of it, not pod kills and unless your war target is EXTREAMLY STUPID, no kills either (for the most part, somtimes you get lucky). u mad bro?



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