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Jonah Gravenstein
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Posted - 2012.07.31 12:31:00 -
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This game has 99 problems, the goons ain't one
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Freezehunter
253
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Posted - 2012.07.31 12:37:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:This game has 99 problems, the goons ain't one
If you're havin' CFC problems I feel bad for you son!
I got 99 problems but a goon ain't one!
Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom. |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1431
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Posted - 2012.07.31 13:17:00 -
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Torvin Yulus wrote:the problem wit nullsec is that the goonswaer federaqtion has sov in 9 regions. these 9 regions include fountain, deklein, period basis, cloud ring, and perigen falls.
Technically wrong. http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png (hint: goons space are marked in yellow)
also, it's goonswarm federation, not goonswaer federaqtion.
Torvin Yulus wrote:goons only defend he sov with big cta fleets so that the little guy has no chance
lets give him a chance!
There are no CTAs in GSF that I know of, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Torvin Yulus wrote:insteadf of needing a 1000 man fleet to take sov lets let anyone take sov if they invest the time
cut the hitpoints on sov structures 99% so that small gangs can maraud and do sov warfare.
Now you're just being silly, what's stopping the 1000 man fleet(s) from retaking the sov? also, you can do sov harassment with smallgang now just fine.
Torvin Yulus wrote:make goons work for their space!
If managing a 9k player made alliance isn't work. I don't know what is.
Don't like spaceships sandbox? then this is not the game for you.
"I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose."
-Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |
Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
34
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Posted - 2012.07.31 13:39:00 -
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[/quote]
How about making it easier for fledgling alliances to get up to that point and compete with the Goons? You know, easier than impossible.[/quote]
Easier .. easier .. easier...!! Thats all I ever hear from people. Its too hard .. boohooo... it takes too long .. boohooo... I can't play as long as others its not fair... boohoo.
I don't know if its a generation thing or what but that is some serious weakness...
Man up.. grow a pair! |
Jonah Gravenstein
679
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Posted - 2012.07.31 13:52:00 -
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Kryss Darkdust wrote:
Man up.. grow a pair!
:effort: 
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Nuela
Beacon Light Corporation
Beacon Light Alliance
91
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Posted - 2012.07.31 13:53:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Cyprus Black wrote:Zarnak Wulf wrote:How do you create a thread and not spell half the words in the subject line correct?!? FFS. I noticed that too. Maybe he's rage typing and his hands are shaking. For his sake i sure hope so , and i hope like me his first language is not english because .... ouch otherwise .
One of the first things I learned when participating in forums is to not praise someone for trying to learn English and asking what their native language is (not in sarcasm but legit) because 99% of the time they will respond with hostility and that they are a native English speaker. |
Larloch TheAncient
Alpha Arms and Manufacturing
Order of the Void
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Posted - 2012.07.31 13:57:00 -
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Torvin Yulus wrote:Larloch TheAncient wrote:Just because someone is better/more organized/ and larger than yourself. Does not mean the game is broken.
Larger armies tend to beat smaller armies, with small gangs can be effective in hit/run scenarios when it comes to holding/taking a fort, small gangs have never thrived in neither Real Armies nor eve armies.
I don't see anything that needs fixing. vietnam nuff said
Vietnam was one huge hit and run guerilla warfare situation.
Assume that same army tired.... assaulting the United states... or attacking any of the major us installations. They were slaughtered... often.
The only forts they did take, they did with overwhelming numbers, thus also making my stating factual. |
Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
81
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Posted - 2012.07.31 13:58:00 -
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Torvin Yulus wrote:Larloch TheAncient wrote:Just because someone is better/more organized/ and larger than yourself. Does not mean the game is broken.
Larger armies tend to beat smaller armies, with small gangs can be effective in hit/run scenarios when it comes to holding/taking a fort, small gangs have never thrived in neither Real Armies nor eve armies.
I don't see anything that needs fixing. vietnam nuff said
Pretty sure the zerg wave attacks (like goons) won in vietnam |
Larloch TheAncient
Alpha Arms and Manufacturing
Order of the Void
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Posted - 2012.07.31 14:23:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Torvin Yulus wrote:Larloch TheAncient wrote:Just because someone is better/more organized/ and larger than yourself. Does not mean the game is broken.
Larger armies tend to beat smaller armies, with small gangs can be effective in hit/run scenarios when it comes to holding/taking a fort, small gangs have never thrived in neither Real Armies nor eve armies.
I don't see anything that needs fixing. vietnam nuff said Pretty sure the zerg wave attacks (like goons) won in vietnam
Well then they weren't the "underdog" in numbers were they? How does this invalidate my original statement?
The "zerg" in sc2 are no longer like that unfortunately :(
I miss the idea of a swarm :( |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
303
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Posted - 2012.07.31 14:27:00 -
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Torvin Yulus wrote:
don make fun ofmy englishg you stupid muppet sometimes when i typer i dont type right i still have valid thoughs!
the evidence does not support this assertion |
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Kingston Black
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
34
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Posted - 2012.07.31 14:38:00 -
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0/10 fail troll is fail try harder goonie |
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2012.07.31 21:00:00 -
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Kingston Black wrote:0/10 fail troll is fail try harder goonie
Goons troll better than this. |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.31 21:38:00 -
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I should be able to alpha strike a SOV Structure in my 5 mil junk.
If the owner has a problem with this, he should watch his AFKin structure 24/7, and move it when I show up with my 5 mil junk.
I think it's only fair. We'll call it SoVageddon! 
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Jaison Savrin
Dragon's Rage
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2012.07.31 21:42:00 -
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Nuela wrote: One of the first things I learned when participating in forums is to not praise someone for trying to learn English and asking what their native language is (not in sarcasm but legit) because 99% of the time they will respond with hostility and that they are a native English speaker.
Scariest fact in this thread. Also, umm, Goons are bad or something. I honestly don't care. I respect what they've done even if I am not always a fan of their activities. |
Drunken Bum
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2012.07.31 22:06:00 -
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OP, share whatever it is you're drinking |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
281
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Posted - 2012.07.31 23:06:00 -
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Torvin Yulus wrote:the problem wit nullsec is that the goonswaer federaqtion has sov in 9 regions. these 9 regions include fountain, deklein, period basis, cloud ring, and perigen falls.
goons only defend he sov with big cta fleets so that the little guy has no chance
lets give him a chance!
insteadf of needing a 1000 man fleet to take sov lets let anyone take sov if they invest the time
cut the hitpoints on sov structures 99% so that small gangs can maraud and do sov warfare.
make goons work for their space!
So what? I don't see what changes.
Systems where goons jew will remain goon sov or else instant death for lol fail "small gangs" when they get blobbed to death.
Other systems with tech moons will be instantly defended.
Any other systems with sov taken but ignored will just get harassed by no end by the 20k coalition next to them making it worthless. |
Cpt Gobla
No Bullshit
Jokers Wild.
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Posted - 2012.08.01 08:35:00 -
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Gorn Arming wrote:oonswamr federation
Oonswamr Federation
Oonswammer Federation
Ounswammer Federation
Sounds kinda... Dutch.
I'm Dutch and on behalf of my people I vehemently deny this vile and baseless accusation! |
Pisov viet
Kaesong Kosmonauts
Test Alliance Please Ignore
85
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Posted - 2012.08.01 08:45:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:I should be able to alpha strike a SOV Structure in my 5 mil junk. If the owner has a problem with this, he should watch his AFKin structure 24/7, and move it when I show up with my 5 mil junk. I think it's only fair. We'll call it SoVageddon!
Nullsec dwellers from Branch to Querious would welcome such a change. |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
114
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Posted - 2012.08.01 09:41:00 -
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Shiptoasting in a "Darn the power of masses" thread. |
Nikko Jiangtibayan
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
13
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Posted - 2012.08.01 09:45:00 -
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What's an "oonswamr"?
Hello...mate. |
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Kheeria
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
Fatal Ascension
5
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Posted - 2012.08.01 14:20:00 -
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Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:El Cid Campeador wrote:
Lol that last little bit was funny. If you think that they got their space for free, you are mistaken. They have fought for it,
I quit reading your post right there... El Cid Campeador wrote:
Lol that last little bit was funny.
Then I read that part again and thought of your post. Goons were given their space by TFC. Most of the North, that are members of the CFC were also given their space. TEST was even given their space. The old NC, Goons and Pets did that for them. Goons and Pets also gave TEST Delve. Goons and Pets have one method of taking space. Camp you in a station while they clear out your Sov. That really isnt fighting, it more like station camping.
Hello -A- npc alt... |
Kheeria
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
Fatal Ascension
5
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Posted - 2012.08.01 14:26:00 -
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Torvin Yulus wrote:the problem wit nullsec is that the goonswaer federaqtion has sov in 9 regions. these 9 regions include fountain, deklein, period basis, cloud ring, and perigen falls.
goons only defend he sov with big cta fleets so that the little guy has no chance
lets give him a chance!
insteadf of needing a 1000 man fleet to take sov lets let anyone take sov if they invest the time
cut the hitpoints on sov structures 99% so that small gangs can maraud and do sov warfare.
make goons work for their space!
Please come to VFK, I need moar kills! |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
The Marmite Collective
2093
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Posted - 2012.08.01 15:37:00 -
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The problem isn't fleet size, it's force projection. The reason small forces can somewhat effectively oppose much larger forces in real life is that large forces have much more significant logistical needs and typically take longer to move from place to place. There is a downside to being the side with the overwhelming firepower.
In Eve, that's not the case. Force projection has been taken to ridiculous scales here, essentially removing the negative aspects of operating massive fleets. If anything, the massive alliance fleets are MORE mobile than their smaller opponents. Nerf that and you make New Eden big again.
The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1107
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Posted - 2012.08.01 15:45:00 -
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Adeleda Adoudel wrote:Goons have CTAs? I thought that only happened in the south...
Thats a negative. There could be a super important strategic operation happening and I could be sitting in an anomaly somewhere ratting to my hearts content and no one would give a rip. Happens all the time and yet- there's still 400 dudes who show up for a moon save.
People who have CTA's: ask yourself why this is?
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baltec1
Bat Country
1768
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Posted - 2012.08.01 15:47:00 -
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Torvin Yulus wrote:
vietnam
nuff said
Americans were outnumbered. |
Pookie McPook
The Whiskers of Kurvi-Tasch
5
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Posted - 2012.08.01 15:54:00 -
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How many ways it is possible to misspell Goonswarm I wonder? |
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.08.01 17:16:00 -
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Under the category of "never gonna happen" ::
If you really want to open up the game, then yeah, corps should be limited to how much space the can control. A "primary system" should be easy to defend, whereas ancillary systems should be more difficult to control based on how many systems are already controlled. I would even go so far as to say that until a change like this happens, there will always be gynormous powerblocks controlling sov. If you tried to do this with EvE now, there would be so much exploting of alt corps to hold systems adjacent to the parent corps, etc, etc.
Dose of reality: ain't gonna happen. It would be a change of the fundamental concepts that EvE was founded on. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
638
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Posted - 2012.08.01 17:42:00 -
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Torvin Yulus wrote:vietnam
nuff said
It took the North Vietnamese nearly 30 years of warfare to conquer the South. The crybabies can't even make it for 30 minutes before they start blubbering into their keyboards about how 0.0 warfare is too hard and that CCP need to directly nerf Goonswarm for daring to be more successful than they are.
Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Tiger Armani
Mialto Corp
The Last Chancers.
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Posted - 2012.08.01 17:48:00 -
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Only thing that needs fixing, is your spelling and typing skills. |
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