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Zhorakk	Posted - 2010.09.21 16:04:00 - [1] Edited by: Zhorakk on 21/09/2010 16:09:53 So I'm getting a solo pvp command ship. The obvious choice for me is the Sleipnir. Now the thing is, you get that nice falloff bonus. Most fittings I find though rely on 3 gyros, only 1 TE and no speed rigs/mods. Sure, the base speed is fine compared to other Command Ships, but if you fly solo and get tackled by anything faster that you can't mid neut to death, you're **** out of luck. A standard HG Crystal Sleipnir with 1 TE and no speed mods would get me (CS skill 4) ca 1200 dps burst tank (Dread Guristas XL), 1300 m/s and 660 dps with EMP @19 falloff or 525 dps with Barrage @29 falloff. All of this without heat and drones. A HG Slave (+other speed imps) Sleipnir with 1 TE, 1 nanofiber and 1 polycarb rig would get me ca 790 dps burst tank, 1950 m/s and the same range with 590 dps EMP, 470 dps Barrage, except if I drop the polycarb for an ambit extension. Imho if you have to tank 1200 dps you are probably alreads scrammed/web or in a similar situation where even double the tank couldn't save your sorry ass. Whereas with the nano fit you can avoid that situation and have a far greater advantage in truly being able to pick your fights - even after they have begun. What's your take on that?
Zeba ForumWhoor Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.09.21 17:11:00 - [2] Originally by: Zhorakk What's your take on that? Use jump clones and buy two sleips so you don't have to compromise on the rigs. Fly the snaked one for fast hac gang goodness and the crystal fit for baiting. ZOMG!!!
King Rothgar Amarrian Retribution	Posted - 2010.09.21 18:28:00 - [3] If you want to run away, buy a vagabond/cynabal instead. Anything but a crystal set is heresy for a slephnir/maelstrom/vargur. Just my take on it though. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig.
Culitza	Posted - 2010.09.21 20:02:00 - [4] Get a guardian with cap transfer in gang and fit 100mn mwd and 180mm AC's with buffer shield, focus on agility, and see your 8km/sec sleipnir tacklemobile in action. Nomad set would be great for it.
Intigo Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.09.21 20:17:00 - [5] I would stick with Crystals. You should not have issues with tacklers. Originally by: Culitza Get a guardian with cap transfer in gang and fit 100mn mwd and 180mm AC's with buffer shield, focus on agility, and see your 8km/sec sleipnir tacklemobile in action. Nomad set would be great for it. Never post again. ___________________
Dreadpilot Roberts Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.09.21 21:16:00 - [6] Originally by: Intigo I would stick with Crystals. You should not have issues with tacklers. Originally by: Culitza Get a guardian with cap transfer in gang and fit 100mn mwd and 180mm AC's with buffer shield, focus on agility, and see your 8km/sec sleipnir tacklemobile in action. Nomad set would be great for it. Never post again. Lmao since when are Hydra Reloaded in a position to give advice about pvp =)) dude go back to mission farming and shush I'm sorry, did I say u could speak ?
Emperor Ryan Amarr Imperial Syndicate Forces En Garde	Posted - 2010.09.21 21:29:00 - [7] Originally by: Dreadpilot Roberts Originally by: Intigo I would stick with Crystals. You should not have issues with tacklers. Originally by: Culitza Get a guardian with cap transfer in gang and fit 100mn mwd and 180mm AC's with buffer shield, focus on agility, and see your 8km/sec sleipnir tacklemobile in action. Nomad set would be great for it. Never post again. Lmao since when are Hydra Reloaded in a position to give advice about pvp =)) dude go back to mission farming and shush Serisouly, Never Post again - That 8km idea is rubish for SOLO pvp - Emperor
Culitza	Posted - 2010.09.21 21:46:00 - [8] It's nano fit not ****ed wow 700 dps tank that makes a ship solo pvp viable. And the 100mn mwd sleip you can even run solo with if you burst your mwd. You either nano it like there's no tomorrow or listen to these ****s talking about ACTIVE TANKS in SOLO pvp :))
Dotard Minmatar The Tuskers	Posted - 2010.09.21 22:16:00 - [9] Try to maneuver or actually fight with that 100MN and crawl back into your hole plx.
Culitza	Posted - 2010.09.21 22:59:00 - [10] Edited by: Culitza on 21/09/2010 22:59:21 Originally by: Dotard Try to maneuver or actually fight with that 100MN and crawl back into your hole plx. That's the point moron, i did, you didnt so you can stop talking out of your ass. That's why i said nomad and t2 rigs with 5% agility hardwirings. Now pls go back to missioning and stay off the big boys forum.
Dotard Minmatar The Tuskers	Posted - 2010.09.21 23:23:00 - [11] Edited by: Dotard on 21/09/2010 23:24:33 I did. The forum big boy needs to post with his alt, his points must be valid.
Dreadpilot Roberts Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.09.21 23:30:00 - [12] It's the default character it's posting with and i really doubt u did ... proof or stfu ... and none of that t1-t2 fit crap, to make it work u must invest like 600 mil + implants in it. I'm sorry, did I say u could speak ?
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.09.22 00:04:00 - [13] I fly sleipnir and sometime when I read eve forum posts it make me want to cry. For the OP if you need advice on how to fit you cmd ships you are not ready to fly one, rest in peace.
Doctorr Who	Posted - 2010.09.22 09:58:00 - [14] Why do these ****s post stupid awnsers like if you have to ask you shouldn't fly it? What a load of *****s. Everyone has to fly a ship for the first time some day or other. It's always nice to ask what other people think and get some knowledge off people who have a lot of experiance in the ship your about to step up too.
Zhorakk	Posted - 2010.09.22 10:26:00 - [15] Srsly guys? **** these forums, back to scrapheap.
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.09.22 11:00:00 - [16] Edited by: Tian Nu on 22/09/2010 11:02:14 Cos you and up with setups from comic books that why. Simple you æcanÆ fly ship go to: http://www.eveonline.com/patches/patches.asp?s=singularity&test=&system=win And try all set up you want. Or go to: http://www.battleclinic.com/ But honestly if you are about to fly sleipnir you are suposed to know at least what the ship is made for no? Now if you want to tell the guy to fit 100 MW and scream jihad go on +1.
Zhorakk	Posted - 2010.09.22 11:28:00 - [17] Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 22/09/2010 11:02:14 But honestly if you are about to fly sleipnir you are suposed to know at least what the ship is made for no? It gets a SB bonus AND a falloff bonus combined with a decent base speed. So why on earth isn't it worth thinking about boosting the speed further, making use of the falloff bonus more efficiently and mitigating damage as well that way? I DO know most Sleipnirs aren't nano'd and go with crystals+blue pill. Just saying for range kiting a non implant bonused SB that can "only" get you to slightly above 1k with pill and heat might be viable. Only 2 people actually answered to that thought. You come up with a Logi+100MWD idea when the OP is about solo work.
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.09.22 11:42:00 - [18] Originally by: Zhorakk Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 22/09/2010 11:02:14 But honestly if you are about to fly sleipnir you are suposed to know at least what the ship is made for no? It gets a SB bonus AND a falloff bonus combined with a decent base speed. So why on earth isn't it worth thinking about boosting the speed further, making use of the falloff bonus more efficiently and mitigating damage as well that way? I DO know most Sleipnirs aren't nano'd and go with crystals+blue pill. Just saying for range kiting a non implant bonused SB that can "only" get you to slightly above 1k with pill and heat might be viable. Only 2 people actually answered to that thought. You come up with a Logi+100MWD idea when the OP is about solo work. So what else you need to know? Try it on test and see what will perform better. 'You come up with a Logi+100MWD idea when the OP is about solo work.' You shore æIÆ came with that. I point something important from your post: 'crystals+blue pill' Start there and the fit will just be crystal clear.
Intigo Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.09.22 11:58:00 - [19] You are one terrible poster, Tian Nu. ___________________
Natasha Hec Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2010.09.22 12:05:00 - [20] a 100mn mwd slep with all nano's agility implants and nomads with tech 2 rigs aligns in 18.6 secs and goes 6700m/s on o/h, good luck using that in a fight
Evil Stare	Posted - 2010.09.22 12:44:00 - [21] Originally by: Tian Nu Originally by: Zhorakk Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 22/09/2010 11:02:14 But honestly if you are about to fly sleipnir you are suposed to know at least what the ship is made for no? It gets a SB bonus AND a falloff bonus combined with a decent base speed. So why on earth isn't it worth thinking about boosting the speed further, making use of the falloff bonus more efficiently and mitigating damage as well that way? I DO know most Sleipnirs aren't nano'd and go with crystals+blue pill. Just saying for range kiting a non implant bonused SB that can "only" get you to slightly above 1k with pill and heat might be viable. Only 2 people actually answered to that thought. You come up with a Logi+100MWD idea when the OP is about solo work. So what else you need to know? Try it on test and see what will perform better. 'You come up with a Logi+100MWD idea when the OP is about solo work.' You shore æIÆ came with that. I point something important from your post: 'crystals+blue pill' Start there and the fit will just be crystal clear. Had you spent as much time proof reading your useless post as you did hitting the bold button, this post may have made sense.
SwissChris1	Posted - 2010.09.22 14:30:00 - [22] Originally by: Zhorakk So I'm getting a solo pvp command ship. The obvious choice for me is the Sleipnir... I stopped reading after this...solo & command ship? Seems like an oxymoron tbh Aren't these supposed to be fleet/gang ships? Wouldn't you just be better off solo'ing in a bc?
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2010.09.22 14:46:00 - [23] Originally by: SwissChris1 Originally by: Zhorakk So I'm getting a solo pvp command ship. The obvious choice for me is the Sleipnir... I stopped reading after this...solo & command ship? Seems like an oxymoron tbh Aren't these supposed to be fleet/gang ships? Wouldn't you just be better off solo'ing in a bc? its maths and balls. A cheaper cane will be X% as effective, no doubt a well fit sleipnir will be better defence and offence and proably speed. Whether that extra power over the cane is worth the extra isk and bullet magnetness is upto the pilot. Rich and ballsy? get a sleip Poor and reckless? stay with the canes
Dotard Minmatar The Tuskers	Posted - 2010.09.22 14:46:00 - [24] Afaik noone asked for a Claymore or Vulture. Try watching the rocket witchcraft/wizardrdy/bla to see an example of CS solo pvp...NH though.
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.09.22 15:15:00 - [25] Originally by: Evil Stare Originally by: Tian Nu Originally by: Zhorakk Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 22/09/2010 11:02:14 But honestly if you are about to fly sleipnir you are suposed to know at least what the ship is made for no? It gets a SB bonus AND a falloff bonus combined with a decent base speed. So why on earth isn't it worth thinking about boosting the speed further, making use of the falloff bonus more efficiently and mitigating damage as well that way? I DO know most Sleipnirs aren't nano'd and go with crystals+blue pill. Just saying for range kiting a non implant bonused SB that can "only" get you to slightly above 1k with pill and heat might be viable. Only 2 people actually answered to that thought. You come up with a Logi+100MWD idea when the OP is about solo work. So what else you need to know? Try it on test and see what will perform better. 'You come up with a Logi+100MWD idea when the OP is about solo work.' You shore æIÆ came with that. I point something important from your post: 'crystals+blue pill' Start there and the fit will just be crystal clear. Had you spent as much time proof reading your useless post as you did hitting the bold button, this post may have made sense. Am used to get these kind comments from ppl with no knowledge. PS. I make that bold for ya
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.09.22 15:18:00 - [26] Originally by: SwissChris1 Originally by: Zhorakk So I'm getting a solo pvp command ship. The obvious choice for me is the Sleipnir... I stopped reading after this...solo & command ship? Seems like an oxymoron tbh Aren't these supposed to be fleet/gang ships? Wouldn't you just be better off solo'ing in a bc? Actually sleipnir is pretty strong solo pvp ship. But yes cane will do well in solo pvp.
Dotard Minmatar The Tuskers	Posted - 2010.09.22 15:23:00 - [27] Thanks for the insight, until know I thought Canes were decent miners.
Dr Ngo Amarr JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION GET IN THE CAR	Posted - 2010.09.22 20:17:00 - [28] Originally by: Tian Nu Am used to get these kind comments from ppl with no knowledge. PS. I make that bold for ya You're right, nobody who just called you horrible has any eve knowledge whatsoever. Also you're wrong, hurricanes are only good when super dual tanked and the highs stuffed with nothing but salvagers and a civilian railgun. Drones for dps. - M.D.

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