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![Darius III Darius III](https://images.evetech.net/characters/874265450/portrait?size=64)
Darius III
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Posted - 2010.09.23 23:33:00 -
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Edited by: Darius III on 23/09/2010 23:43:03 Many years ago, I devised a plan to scam hapless courier contract haulers. I could not implement it however, as it required being able to name a station. My chance came late last week when I was asked to configure a recently acquired station in 8MG. After so long, my plan was able to come to fruition! I was very excited, and also hesitant as I feared GM interaction could undo my plot. My plan was to name a station after a common NPC station name, I.E. Spacelane Patrol, Navy assembly plant etc. I decided to avert possible GM interference by intentionally misspelling the name so there would be no chance GM's would interfere with my scam. Thus was born the station name Itaomi VI Caldri Navy Assembly located in 8MG. The only other aspect to making it happen was to close the station off to essentially all docking, which proved to be easier than anticipated. Now with all the elements in place I could begin! About 10 minutes after the station was named and configured as noted above, I went to Jita to begin advertising the courier contracts to Itaomi VI from Jita. My first one was accepted within minutes, issued by this character, Darius III. 9K M3 with 175 M isk collateral for a 25 M reward. 24 hours later, big surprise- He didn't deliver. Easy 175 M isk. Success after so long. I had to switch out issuers from D3 to a few other alt toons as people quickly became aware that Darius was scamming :D People will say "Why did you post your scam in C&P?" You ruined it. But really most carebear haulers don't read C&P, and there are plenty of people still accepting the contracts, so no loss no foul IMO.
If you decide to post the contracts and get some easy cash, there are a few tips that will help. Make the collateral low and the "payoff" (heh heh heh) relatively high. The most success I have had is with @ 200 M isk collateral and the payout @ 50 M and the courier size UNDER 10K meters cubed. This will allow cloakey Transport ships to fit the cargo, as the lowsec warning comes up for most of the bears doing the hauling. As the station is closed to docking, and right in the middle of a warzone, through gates that are bubbled and camped 23/7, the chances of delivery are ZERO.
Now that I posted this, I will have certainly tipped off a few people who might have become victims, but I have had many successes with the scam and am content with what I have gotten so far. I just had to share my story with the denizens of C&P whose posts have brought me much joy in the last few years of Eve. -D3 Almost forgot-you have to rename the station when you post in local. Rename destination "Itaomi VI Caldri Navy Assembly" so it matches when they look it up. |
![Professor Villinghopper Professor Villinghopper](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1722318298/portrait?size=64)
Professor Villinghopper
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Posted - 2010.09.23 23:40:00 -
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ITT, Scammer who now wants to scam you into paying him quite well to lock your goods into a station he controls.
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![De'Veldrin De'Veldrin](https://images.evetech.net/characters/111238762/portrait?size=64)
De'Veldrin
Minmatar CareBears on Fire The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.09.23 23:40:00 -
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Edited by: De''Veldrin on 23/09/2010 23:40:52 And of course there's the counter scam. Anyone who starts the same scam has the contracts accepted by you or an alt and delivered, thus you get get your collateral back and you get paid.
Wait...damn...I talked too loud, didn't I?
Edit: Damn, someone beat me to it. --Vel
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![Orange Lagomorph Orange Lagomorph](https://images.evetech.net/characters/431564994/portrait?size=64)
Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.09.23 23:43:00 -
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This is actually a fairly clever idea, taking advantage of the fact that people will glance at the name of the station and assume it's NPC-controlled without investigating further. Simple, but then simplicity is usually best when it comes to hoodwinking people.
Well done, OP. This is still small-time stuff, nothing like GHSC and Ubiqua Seraph, but finding a fresh way to scam people after all these years is a major accomplishment.
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![Ran Khanon Ran Khanon](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1644095475/portrait?size=64)
Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.09.23 23:46:00 -
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Oops. Are you sure that is ok with miss Eula Banhammer? Might not be the exact name which you use but it is still copycatting an npc/game entity name to fool people into thinking it is a public stashun rite?
Props for creative thinking though.
Recruiting. |
![Darius III Darius III](https://images.evetech.net/characters/874265450/portrait?size=64)
Darius III
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Posted - 2010.09.23 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Villinghopper ITT, Scammer who now wants to scam you into paying him quite well to lock your goods into a station he controls.
"Lock your goods into a station?" Maybe you missed the memo? Why would you use actual "goods" for a failing courier contract? You don't contract anything of value, Ibis anyone? Cap 800's? Doesn't matter, the "goods" never get delivered. Check loss mails-the only way in is bubbled/camped.
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![Lana Torrin Lana Torrin](https://images.evetech.net/characters/2036050469/portrait?size=64)
Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.24 00:43:00 -
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Well done? Can we now move on to scams that haven't been happening for the last 5 years?
ITS A WAR! |
![Darius III Darius III](https://images.evetech.net/characters/874265450/portrait?size=64)
Darius III
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Posted - 2010.09.24 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin Well done? Can we now move on to scams that haven't been happening for the last 5 years?
What? Someone else named their private station after an empire station, and I missed it? Damn. What did they name it and whose was it?
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![Lana Torrin Lana Torrin](https://images.evetech.net/characters/2036050469/portrait?size=64)
Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.24 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Darius III
Originally by: Lana Torrin Well done? Can we now move on to scams that haven't been happening for the last 5 years?
What? Someone else named their private station after an empire station, and I missed it? Damn. What did they name it and whose was it?
I'll admit that's a nice twist, but back in my spamming local days I netted people with that scam without having to go to the trouble of renaming the station.. Some people just dont look or know what they are doing..
Like I said.. well done..
ITS A WAR! |
![Rexxov Rexxov](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1270768851/portrait?size=64)
Rexxov
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Posted - 2010.09.24 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Darius III
Originally by: Lana Torrin Well done? Can we now move on to scams that haven't been happening for the last 5 years?
What? Someone else named their private station after an empire station, and I missed it? Damn. What did they name it and whose was it?
I'll admit that's a nice twist, but back in my spamming local days I netted people with that scam without having to go to the trouble of renaming the station.. Some people just dont look or know what they are doing..
Like I said.. well done..
Typical Lana post, first it is "Well done?" Then it is "Like I said well done" This Lana, posts in every thread, often wrong, then backpedaling once she realizes shes wrong. As if anyone cares about her 127th post of the day. Lurk moar, post less Lana. IMO no one really listens to your drivel anyway. |
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![Herty Herty](https://images.evetech.net/characters/245705639/portrait?size=64)
Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2010.09.24 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Rexxov
Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Darius III
Originally by: Lana Torrin Well done? Can we now move on to scams that haven't been happening for the last 5 years?
What? Someone else named their private station after an empire station, and I missed it? Damn. What did they name it and whose was it?
I'll admit that's a nice twist, but back in my spamming local days I netted people with that scam without having to go to the trouble of renaming the station.. Some people just dont look or know what they are doing..
Like I said.. well done..
Typical Lana post, first it is "Well done?" Then it is "Like I said well done" This Lana, posts in every thread, often wrong, then backpedaling once she realizes shes wrong. As if anyone cares about her 127th post of the day. Lurk moar, post less Lana. IMO no one really listens to your drivel anyway.
What lana said was true its a common scam with a nice and very dedicated twist. On a side note why dont you just sell space instead your certainly in a position to do it easily if I can do it on this random alt.
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![Lana Torrin Lana Torrin](https://images.evetech.net/characters/2036050469/portrait?size=64)
Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.24 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Rexxov
Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Darius III
Originally by: Lana Torrin Well done? Can we now move on to scams that haven't been happening for the last 5 years?
What? Someone else named their private station after an empire station, and I missed it? Damn. What did they name it and whose was it?
I'll admit that's a nice twist, but back in my spamming local days I netted people with that scam without having to go to the trouble of renaming the station.. Some people just dont look or know what they are doing..
Like I said.. well done..
Typical Lana post, first it is "Well done?" Then it is "Like I said well done" This Lana, posts in every thread, often wrong, then backpedaling once she realizes shes wrong. As if anyone cares about her 127th post of the day. Lurk moar, post less Lana. IMO no one really listens to your drivel anyway.
because the 2nd well done was much more heart felt after I just got though telling him how you can do the exact same thing without the bother of taking a station?
I'm p.sure the exploit (no one jump up and down at that word, its the correct word for this situation) is handing out courier contracts that can never be completed, not making it look like a highsec station.. If the station was dockable by the people then it would be legit, even if it is 5 million jumps in to 0.0 with no chance of ever making it. As it is, if someone petitions, you get to see what the GMs think about it.
Another twist on this (and one that makes it 100% legal) is to use the NPC stations in stain or fountain. Deep in to 0.0 and through the middle of a warzone.. Just make sure the reward isn't huge as there is a slim chance someone will complete it.
ITS A WAR! |
![Caila Solarstorm Caila Solarstorm](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1663907943/portrait?size=64)
Caila Solarstorm
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.24 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: Rexxov
Lurk moar, post less Lana. IMO no one really listens to your drivel anyway.
This comin from someone who has made 8 posts in nine months, I would tell you to follow your own advice... Oh wait!
Enjoy goin back to lurking and don't let the thread hit your ass on the way out!![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif)
-- I fly Rifters and tackle people! |
![Orange Lagomorph Orange Lagomorph](https://images.evetech.net/characters/431564994/portrait?size=64)
Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.09.24 04:21:00 -
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Minmatar Republic Military Skool: Clearly, it's spelled "Skool" for a reason.
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![De'Veldrin De'Veldrin](https://images.evetech.net/characters/111238762/portrait?size=64)
De'Veldrin
Minmatar CareBears on Fire The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.09.24 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Rexxov
Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Darius III
Originally by: Lana Torrin Well done? Can we now move on to scams that haven't been happening for the last 5 years?
What? Someone else named their private station after an empire station, and I missed it? Damn. What did they name it and whose was it?
I'll admit that's a nice twist, but back in my spamming local days I netted people with that scam without having to go to the trouble of renaming the station.. Some people just dont look or know what they are doing..
Like I said.. well done..
Typical Lana post, first it is "Well done?" Then it is "Like I said well done" This Lana, posts in every thread, often wrong, then backpedaling once she realizes shes wrong. As if anyone cares about her 127th post of the day. Lurk moar, post less Lana. IMO no one really listens to your drivel anyway.
I smell bitterness. --Vel
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![Marakesha Marakesha](https://images.evetech.net/characters/125901740/portrait?size=64)
Marakesha
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Posted - 2010.09.24 05:01:00 -
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>Name removed [04:55:28]> i'll pay someone 25 mil to dock and contract the goods to me
Name removed> well i'm not gonna lie, i got scammed by a courier contract going there Name removed> i'll pay someone 25 mil to dock and contract the goods to me
Heh heh heh well done-and it wasnt even me/my alliance=D
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![Scoundrelus Scoundrelus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/628803727/portrait?size=64)
Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2010.09.24 05:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Darius III
Originally by: Lana Torrin Well done? Can we now move on to scams that haven't been happening for the last 5 years?
What? Someone else named their private station after an empire station, and I missed it? Damn. What did they name it and whose was it?
I'll admit that's a nice twist, but back in my spamming local days I netted people with that scam without having to go to the trouble of renaming the station.. Some people just dont look or know what they are doing..
Like I said.. well done..
So he basically took your scam and made it better.
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![seany1212 seany1212](https://images.evetech.net/characters/887860184/portrait?size=64)
seany1212
The Scowling Men
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Posted - 2010.09.24 06:00:00 -
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So much lana hate in this thread, good job lana on whatever you managed to do to **** them off I will agree that the name is probably too closely linked with the NPC station names and a GM might look down on it badly ![Confused](/images/icon_confused.gif) You guys make squeeky noises when you pop, and that's enough motivation as far as I'm concerned. |
![Lana Torrin Lana Torrin](https://images.evetech.net/characters/2036050469/portrait?size=64)
Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.24 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: Scoundrelus
Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Darius III
Originally by: Lana Torrin Well done? Can we now move on to scams that haven't been happening for the last 5 years?
What? Someone else named their private station after an empire station, and I missed it? Damn. What did they name it and whose was it?
I'll admit that's a nice twist, but back in my spamming local days I netted people with that scam without having to go to the trouble of renaming the station.. Some people just dont look or know what they are doing..
Like I said.. well done..
So he basically took your scam and made it better.
Cant really see how this is 'better' and it was never my scam to begin with.
ITS A WAR! |
![Mag's Mag's](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1599956208/portrait?size=64)
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.09.24 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: seany1212 So much lana hate in this thread, good job lana on whatever you managed to do to **** them off I will agree that the name is probably too closely linked with the NPC station names and a GM might look down on it badly ![Confused](/images/icon_confused.gif)
It's not the station name that's the issue here, although it may have some impact. This scam is classed as an exploit, because it cannot be completed. Lana posted this already ITT.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
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![Naschen Naschen](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1426215822/portrait?size=64)
Naschen
Blue Sky Industry
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Posted - 2010.09.24 08:05:00 -
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came in expecting epic saga full of lulz.. left disappointed at a rehash of the old courier contract scam ------ Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself |
![Lady Spank Lady Spank](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1242684108/portrait?size=64)
Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.09.24 10:18:00 -
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Considering how terrible Darius' posting is it's funny to see people jumping to defend him over an off the cuff remark from Lana. Congratulations to Lana for inducing such stupidity from this thread.
Darius it has happened before, years ago tbh. Like you say its not a new idea, you just claim to have recently had the chance to run it. Illusion is so integral to scams that renaming whatever you can is hugely common. With so many outposts out there changing hands how do you not think this has been done before? ~_~
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![TipsyMcStagger TipsyMcStagger](https://images.evetech.net/characters/712156335/portrait?size=64)
TipsyMcStagger
Caldari I FLY DRAMS IRL YO
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Posted - 2010.09.24 11:43:00 -
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HEY GAIS AFTER 3 MONTHS OF PROBING I PULLED OFF MY BIGGEST SCAM EVA I BOUGHT A DRAM FOR 70k
YOU SEE CAUSE WHAT I DID? LOL 70 THOUS INSTEAD OF 70 MILLION IT STILL SIAD 70
YOU GET IT? THE GUYS SEES '70' AND LIKE K THNX HERE YU GO DRAM TIPSY AND THEN RAGGGEEEEEE AND IM LIKE LOL CANT YU READ YUR DUM K THNX AND I EXPECT TO MOVE UP TO FED NAVY RAVENS 1 DAY WHEN I GET GOOD PRACTICE I WILL ROCK EVE WITH MY EXPLOITS
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![Fuzzy Weeze Fuzzy Weeze](https://images.evetech.net/characters/2058808351/portrait?size=64)
Fuzzy Weeze
The United Snakes
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Posted - 2010.09.24 11:49:00 -
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After there is a few billion in contracts up and waiting to be delivered. Darius accepts them..
This is what I would do
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![Scoundrelus Scoundrelus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/628803727/portrait?size=64)
Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2010.09.24 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin Cant really see how this is 'better' and it was never my scam to begin with.
Ok let me re-word it. You both performed the same scam but he did it better.
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![Whitehound Whitehound](https://images.evetech.net/characters/608526967/portrait?size=64)
Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.09.24 12:24:00 -
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OP is professionally stupid. --
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![K'racker K'racker](https://images.evetech.net/characters/896448792/portrait?size=64)
K'racker
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.09.24 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: seany1212 So much lana hate in this thread, good job lana on whatever you managed to do to **** them off I will agree that the name is probably too closely linked with the NPC station names and a GM might look down on it badly ![Confused](/images/icon_confused.gif)
It's not the station name that's the issue here, although it may have some impact. This scam is classed as an exploit, because it cannot be completed. Lana posted this already ITT.
courier mission to player held stations is not an exploit. the mission can be completed by anybody with docking rights at the destination.
in the counter scam mentioned, the OP picks up the scam couriers issued by other players, delivers them as he has the standings to dock there, and completes the courier contract. it's not impossible to complete.
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![ROXGenghis ROXGenghis](https://images.evetech.net/characters/538958054/portrait?size=64)
ROXGenghis
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Posted - 2010.09.24 13:47:00 -
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My observation is that he didn't work for three years towards his scam that was "three years in the making." That said, it's not a scam I would pass up, given the opportunity :)
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![Darius III Darius III](https://images.evetech.net/characters/874265450/portrait?size=64)
Darius III
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Posted - 2010.09.25 06:58:00 -
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Edited by: Darius III on 25/09/2010 07:04:21 Edited by: Darius III on 25/09/2010 06:59:09 Wow, I really didnt think so many poeple would fall for this one. It is crazy I tell you. There are so many contracts getting picked up, probablly 75% of the ones listed get picked up and never delivered. The other 25% never get accepted. I got three faileds today on my alt, all for same isk, same contract, same guy. 400M3 courier boxes, 225 M collateral and 40 M "payment". He took the full 24 hours to fail though, never contacted me. I wonder what his/her face was when they opened the box and saw few odd cap charge 800's =D
675 M isk, free and easy.
I LOVE this game. D3
I just looked, and someone with a brain started preemptively doing it from Amarr too. Good luck on the contracts guys :D
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![Flossing Flossing](https://images.evetech.net/characters/785834807/portrait?size=64)
Flossing
Flush Gordon and The Toilet Ducks of Death
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Posted - 2010.09.25 11:00:00 -
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Lol i can see what you doing here, nice one, hope it works out well.
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