i dont mean like o today i want to pvp swap tomorrow mine again swap back. but mabe being able to change them at some loss like you say 50% or 75% or somthing like that. would be good and keeep people playing the game. that leave becasue they are bored off what they are doing and not willing to put the time iito it to carry on playing while they wait the x amout of time to be able to do the thig they fancy tryig now.

mabe like the remap we have atm.

and also think that needs to be brough i from 12 months to 6 months but thats a different post lol :)

mabe being allowed to transfer the sp every 6 months or somthing or even a isk cost to doing it every 6 months so there is a loss of time training and a cost per sp or what ever

don't like the skills you trained? sell your character and buy another.

Still no, can you unlearn stuff you were taught at school because you have never used it since?

unless you're Homer in which case any new stuff pushes the old stuff out

even though most of what you learn at school is useless, the skills you learned to solve a problem involving finding x are invaluable to every day life even if you've never had to find x since.

Still no, can you unlearn stuff you were taught at school because you have never used it since?

Not agreeing with the OPs proposal at all, but actually, I have unlearned countless things I learned at school employing a combination of not using them in over 20 years and habitual drinking.

Still no, can you unlearn stuff you were taught at school because you have never used it since?

unless you're Homer in which case any new stuff pushes the old stuff out

Not agreeing with the OPs proposal at all, but actually, I have unlearned countless things I learned at school employing a combination of not using them in over 20 years and habitual drinking.

How do you know that you have unlearned something?

How do you know that you have unlearned something?

Try helping kids doing their homework - you'd be surprised how many things you come accross you know you've learned in school but just can't remember without reading it up again (although I was quite surprised how good my latin still was...).

2 years ago I said the same thing...why can I fly a barge when I'm pvping all the time?

Then **** happened, I moved on, life changes and etc etc.

Then 1 year ago I found myself in deep null mining away in sites I scanned down...

Now I'm back into pvp and I suspect that in a year or so I'll be picking up mining again. Or flying bait Skiffs come Aug 8th...

The biggest issue with skill points is that to use them effectively you have to understand all the different skills in the first place; even with help I don't think there's a single new player who has the knowledge to use their SP correctly, and a minor reallocation at some point may be beneficial.

bait procurers, you mean.

If by GǣreuseGǥ you mean GǣdeleteGǥ, then maybe. That should solve people's OCD over having GǣwastedGǥ SP in skills they don't like, but it would also be abused letting people have far cheaper clones for the ships they fly since they can get rid of all those pesky prereqsGǪ

If by GÇ£reuseGÇ¥ you mean GÇ£redistributeGÇ¥, then hell no.

As a new player, I am starting to find that some of the skillpoints I believe I wasted, are not actually a waste... sometimes, I trained a skill for a single module, which I found that I got bored of, but later on, that skill was important and saved time in unlocking something else.

I'm sure this has been discussed before. The most common response is that whatever you do in EvE has consequences. Deal with it. Your mining skills will haunt your character till you biomass it. :P

There is no such thing as "wasted SP". Your skills are only wasted when you choose to waste them by not using them.

Wasted SKILL POINTS?!?!

WTF op? you are the one that did the clicky clicky thing when setting up your training que and all. you chose them. CCP will not give them points back. live an learn kid

well as you probs did not read all the posts I my self and my 3 accounts multipul accounts are fine. but i jsut thought it would be a good thing to keep ore people playing makeing it easyer to change carrier paths with out the months of trainig needed.

yer i do see all the aguments for not doing it. but so many new people train skills that they A dont every need they only trained it by mistake.

well as you probs did not read all the posts I my self and my 3 accounts multipul accounts are fine. but i jsut thought it would be a good thing to keep ore people playing makeing it easyer to change carrier paths with out the months of trainig needed.

The point reduction is a masked piece offering as well. A player can easily train up several x2 skills in a fraction of the time it would take to train up and x8, and then convert them over essentially allowing them to train faster.

I wouldn't mind it if it was limited to one skill each month, and you would only get 25% of the sp back, also the skill would disappear completely so you have to buy the book again...

And maybe you wouldn't get new sp directly, but merely a bonus training speed for a small period based on the sp removed

If anything, training skills backward without any benefit would be okay.

So basically, it takes the same time to untrain a skill level as it took to train it - no benefit or reimbursement.

I'd actually do that with some skills just for a cleaner skillsheet.

don't like the skills you trained? sell your character and buy another.

If anything, training skills backward without any benefit would be okay.

So basically, it takes the same time to untrain a skill level as it took to train it - no benefit or reimbursement.

I'd actually do that with some skills just for a cleaner skillsheet.

That I'd like just to clean up. And older players could train down skills they don't need to keep clone cost down. As long as reverse training follows the prerequisite hierarchy, for example, you couldn't untrain weapon upgrades if you've got advanced weapon upgrades trained.

This way, players cannot get rid of "unnecessary" prerequisite skills with out removing the skill they need, thus keeping the skill tree intact.

hi guys jsut a though what do you all think about being able to use wasted sp into somthig you use. say when u started game you stared mineing now you more into pvp and have x amount of SP into mineing ie crystals hulk or orca or what ever. would it not be good to be able to transfer them sp into somthig that is usfull to you today, insted of having to jsut train somthing else and have all them wasted sp jsut sitting there.

I'd rather have the ability to just unlearn a skill completely, without having any of the points refunded.

hi guys jsut a though what do you all think about being able to use wasted sp into somthig you use. say when u started game you stared mineing now you more into pvp and have x amount of SP into mineing ie crystals hulk or orca or what ever. would it not be good to be able to transfer them sp into somthig that is usfull to you today, insted of having to jsut train somthing else and have all them wasted sp jsut sitting there.

i suggest you sell your char and buy a pvp one... i will never support what you are asking for...

hi guys jsut a though what do you all think about being able to use wasted sp into somthig you use. say when u started game you stared mineing now you more into pvp and have x amount of SP into mineing ie crystals hulk or orca or what ever. would it not be good to be able to transfer them sp into somthig that is usfull to you today, insted of having to jsut train somthing else and have all them wasted sp jsut sitting there.

hi guys jsut a though what do you all think about being able to use wasted sp into somthig you use. say when u started game you stared mineing now you more into pvp and have x amount of SP into mineing ie crystals hulk or orca or what ever. would it not be good to be able to transfer them sp into somthig that is usfull to you today, insted of having to jsut train somthing else and have all them wasted sp jsut sitting there.

Have +5 implants.
Perfect attribute mapping. (getting around 2700sp/hr)

Are you sure of this number ?
Is 2700 sp/hour the maximum sp you can get per hour with +5 mplants and perfect attribute mapping?