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Atticus Fynch Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.09.25 00:15:00 - [1] Must they always have an escort?
Smokin Phil	Posted - 2010.09.25 00:16:00 - [2] if you enjoy having the freighter yes
Jhoria Englside	Posted - 2010.09.25 00:18:00 - [3] i give this 2 pages Edit: or not
Taross Caldari People with Guns Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.09.25 00:21:00 - [4] Well, they'll need a scout at least. Last time I flew a freighter in lowsec, I did so just after DT, and I had a friend online checking if the systems i went through REALLY were empty... Think about it. If you're in lowsec, and you get scrammed and webbed by something able to tank the sentry guns, how long is it gonna take for you to get back to the gate? And is there really anything else you can do to save you? Don't be a comedy kill mail, scout and/or escort your freighters in lowsec. (Eh, eddz?) Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie
Culmen Caldari Blood Phage Syndicate Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.09.25 00:22:00 - [5] 3/10 This troll thread requires more then a sentence to win troll. and further more why do i even need a sig?
ShadowandLight Amarr Doom Guard Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.09.25 00:22:00 - [6] very bad idea... but some ways to mitigate the possibility of getting killed 1) always scout ahead, the more scouts the better. 2) have an alt or a friend in a fast locking ship that has a web on it. When you jump the gate into the next system, as you hit warp have that pilot use his web on you. You will warp instantly to the next gate. 3) Use the ingame map and / or dotlan to see what low sec systems have alot of fighting in them. 4) repeat step 1, 2 and 3. ------- "The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1 Hoist the Colors!
Atticus Fynch Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.09.25 00:29:00 - [7] I appreciate the feedback. Thanks.
King Gore The Church of Sentcha	Posted - 2010.09.25 00:30:00 - [8] Originally by: Atticus Fynch Must they always have an escort? You are just ****ing awful. - #DEVOUR# Scream for me. I'll die for you #DEVOUR# Scream for me. I'll die for you #DEVOUR#
Shinde Kudasai Kudasai Financial Services	Posted - 2010.09.25 00:30:00 - [9] Originally by: Smokin Phil if you enjoy having the freighter yes
Marak Mocam	Posted - 2010.09.25 00:32:00 - [10] The word Pi±ata comes to mind. Does that work for an answer? You're flying a candy dispenser through an elementary school filled with troubled youth and hoping they leave you alone. Get someone to fly point and see that the little sh... err, "trouble youths" aren't in the halls you're passing through or you probably won't make it.
Atticus Fynch Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.09.25 00:41:00 - [11] Originally by: Marak Mocam The word Pi±ata comes to mind. Does that work for an answer? You're flying a candy dispenser through an elementary school filled with troubled youth and hoping they leave you alone. Get someone to fly point and see that the little sh... err, "trouble youths" aren't in the halls you're passing through or you probably won't make it. Makes mental note: Freighter + lowsec = Pi±ata
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.09.25 01:55:00 - [12] Originally by: Atticus Fynch Originally by: Marak Mocam The word Pi±ata comes to mind. Does that work for an answer? You're flying a candy dispenser through an elementary school filled with troubled youth and hoping they leave you alone. Get someone to fly point and see that the little sh... err, "trouble youths" aren't in the halls you're passing through or you probably won't make it. Makes mental note: Freighter + lowsec = Pi±ata Make sure not to forget the ±, it's very important. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Alt Tabbed	Posted - 2010.09.25 02:12:00 - [13] Originally by: Jhoria Englside i give this 2 pages Maybe... The answer is... how quickly is moving through system worth to you? Jump through gate if(system has people) logout; else(warp to next gate); Originally by: Redshift XIII Something tells me this guy wouldn't approve of my rocketcane :(
Shinde Kudasai Kudasai Financial Services	Posted - 2010.09.25 02:27:00 - [14] Originally by: Alt Tabbed Jump through gate if(system has people) logout; else(warp to next gate); if(freighter.logout) scanprobe; else(yar)
Mr LaForge	Posted - 2010.09.25 02:37:00 - [15] They call it a Jump Freighter.
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2010.09.25 03:05:00 - [16] I demand a 'block' feature for the forums.. we could call it the 'Finch-Button'.
Jhoria Englside	Posted - 2010.09.25 03:07:00 - [17] 5/10 as of right now Edit: or not
Kara Mitsui Blue Midget Corporation	Posted - 2010.09.25 03:27:00 - [18] People who respond with negative put-downs in an attempt to be witty are really just the lowest form of life. There's plenty of reasons why a player might not be completely sure about this, maybe they're in a small corp that's never done anything with a freighter before; perhaps he thinks the seemingly large amount of structure gives you a buffer big enough to tank your way through one or two jumps. So people who reply with (to pick an example at random) 'you really are just f**ing awful' are so lame it's difficult to believe. The reply is a variation on a theme that has literally been done to death, simply by invoking that particular meme you are lowering yourself to the mental capacity of pond-scum at best. And the same goes for all the other dumb one-liners, especially the 'x/10' marking type of reply. These guys make pond scum look like Noam Chomsky. Still, several people offered actual advice so it's not a dead loss, and I'm not a complete nob-end. Simply reading the subject text of this particular post was a good laugh because on the surface it really is a hilarious question to ask. But that's as far as you need to take it. One short giggle* and then some actual useful facts if you have any to contribute. If you have no useful facts to contribute (a state far more common than you probably realise) then the giggle on it's own just isn't worth it. Post nothing instead. Why have I even bothered with this polite rant? Well, I'm trying to help those who use the '3/10' or 'you are awful' replies. Those posts were funny once, because they were posted by people with some command of a thing known as 'wit'. They, of course, have long since moved onto other put-downs that are still funny due to use of the aforementioned 'wit'. But those of you still rolling out the same tired things do not have this 'wit', have never had it, and never will have it. My advice is simply to try and contribute something useful to the forums - your command of comedic prose is practically non-existent and you'll do everyone, including yourself, a big favour by not trying to be something you're not. Please note, none of this is an attempt by myself to be funny. I genuinely wanted to point out as clearly as possible what absolute turd-blossoms most of you are.
Atticus Fynch Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.09.25 03:37:00 - [19] Originally by: Kara Mitsui People who respond with negative put-downs in an attempt to be witty are really just the lowest form of life. There's plenty of reasons why a player might not be completely sure about this, maybe they're in a small corp that's never done anything with a freighter before; perhaps he thinks the seemingly large amount of structure gives you a buffer big enough to tank your way through one or two jumps. So people who reply with (to pick an example at random) 'you really are just f**ing awful' are so lame it's difficult to believe. The reply is a variation on a theme that has literally been done to death, simply by invoking that particular meme you are lowering yourself to the mental capacity of pond-scum at best. And the same goes for all the other dumb one-liners, especially the 'x/10' marking type of reply. These guys make pond scum look like Noam Chomsky. Still, several people offered actual advice so it's not a dead loss, and I'm not a complete nob-end. Simply reading the subject text of this particular post was a good laugh because on the surface it really is a hilarious question to ask. But that's as far as you need to take it. One short giggle* and then some actual useful facts if you have any to contribute. If you have no useful facts to contribute (a state far more common than you probably realise) then the giggle on it's own just isn't worth it. Post nothing instead. Why have I even bothered with this polite rant? Well, I'm trying to help those who use the '3/10' or 'you are awful' replies. Those posts were funny once, because they were posted by people with some command of a thing known as 'wit'. They, of course, have long since moved onto other put-downs that are still funny due to use of the aforementioned 'wit'. But those of you still rolling out the same tired things do not have this 'wit', have never had it, and never will have it. My advice is simply to try and contribute something useful to the forums - your command of comedic prose is practically non-existent and you'll do everyone, including yourself, a big favour by not trying to be something you're not. Please note, none of this is an attempt by myself to be funny. I genuinely wanted to point out as clearly as possible what absolute turd-blossoms most of you are. Thanks. This is my first freighter and I wasn't sure how well it would stand to attack considering there no open slots for modules and it's as slow as molasses. So I was curious, and yes the question was sincere.
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2010.09.25 04:22:00 - [20] Originally by: Kara Mitsui <unpersonal insults and helpfull comments> Please note, none of this is an attempt by myself to be funny. I genuinely wanted to point out as clearly as possible what absolute turd-blossoms most of you are. ..well, this just caused the troll-meter to bump up considerably. We're now at 7.5/10.
Marak Mocam	Posted - 2010.09.25 04:43:00 - [21] Originally by: Atticus Fynch Originally by: Kara Mitsui People who respond with negative put-downs in an attempt to be witty are really just the lowest form of life. There's plenty of reasons why a player might not be completely sure about this, maybe they're in a small corp that's never done anything with a freighter before; perhaps he thinks the seemingly large amount of structure gives you a buffer big enough to tank your way through one or two jumps. So people who reply with (to pick an example at random) 'you really are just f**ing awful' are so lame it's difficult to believe. The reply is a variation on a theme that has literally been done to death, simply by invoking that particular meme you are lowering yourself to the mental capacity of pond-scum at best. And the same goes for all the other dumb one-liners, especially the 'x/10' marking type of reply. These guys make pond scum look like Noam Chomsky. Still, several people offered actual advice so it's not a dead loss, and I'm not a complete nob-end. Simply reading the subject text of this particular post was a good laugh because on the surface it really is a hilarious question to ask. But that's as far as you need to take it. One short giggle* and then some actual useful facts if you have any to contribute. If you have no useful facts to contribute (a state far more common than you probably realise) then the giggle on it's own just isn't worth it. Post nothing instead. Why have I even bothered with this polite rant? Well, I'm trying to help those who use the '3/10' or 'you are awful' replies. Those posts were funny once, because they were posted by people with some command of a thing known as 'wit'. They, of course, have long since moved onto other put-downs that are still funny due to use of the aforementioned 'wit'. But those of you still rolling out the same tired things do not have this 'wit', have never had it, and never will have it. My advice is simply to try and contribute something useful to the forums - your command of comedic prose is practically non-existent and you'll do everyone, including yourself, a big favour by not trying to be something you're not. Please note, none of this is an attempt by myself to be funny. I genuinely wanted to point out as clearly as possible what absolute turd-blossoms most of you are. Thanks. This is my first freighter and I wasn't sure how well it would stand to attack considering there no open slots for modules and it's as slow as molasses. So I was curious, and yes the question was sincere. There are tricks but the most important is to scout ahead. One trick: Escort the ship with a small one -- as well as a scout the flies ahead. The small ship webs your freighter so it can jump to warp faster at each gate. Webs lower your max speed but not your acceleration so you obtain the lower warp threshold much faster. It helps spending less time as a "sitting duck" while aligning/accelerating at gates. This trick means you'll want to use 3 ships -- freighter, webbifier close escort and point scout. Don't try and swap the scout for the close-escort, that's got issues for less savvy pilots (some do this but it is riskier). Think about why you want/need a scout at all. If it's with the freighter, you are liable be a tad late at warning not to approach a gate with a camp on the other side. Many gate campers keep a look-out on the other side of a gate they are camping and will go through gates, even into highsec, to nail a freighter. It's a rich prize. ------- To Karma -- ouch. I thought I gave a fairly 'witty' reply that was accurate. Use an escort or your chances are slim. Oh well, back to the 'joke' drawing board... Or not. Some folks have no sense of humor. snicker
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui	Posted - 2010.09.25 04:57:00 - [22] There is a word that should never be used when discussing lowsec. That word is "safe". The only exception to this rule is if the word "not" is involved. That's not to say that it should be avoided of course, just that there is no possible way to make moving something as innately vulnerable as a freighter around in lowsec entirely risk-free. The best you can do is minimise the risks. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.09.25 05:07:00 - [23] Originally by: Kara Mitsui People who respond with negative put-downs in an attempt to be witty are really just the lowest form of life. There's plenty of reasons why a player might not be completely sure about this, maybe they're in a small corp that's never done anything with a freighter before; perhaps he thinks the seemingly large amount of structure gives you a buffer big enough to tank your way through one or two jumps. So people who reply with (to pick an example at random) 'you really are just f**ing awful' are so lame it's difficult to believe. The reply is a variation on a theme that has literally been done to death, simply by invoking that particular meme you are lowering yourself to the mental capacity of pond-scum at best. And the same goes for all the other dumb one-liners, especially the 'x/10' marking type of reply. These guys make pond scum look like Noam Chomsky. Still, several people offered actual advice so it's not a dead loss, and I'm not a complete nob-end. Simply reading the subject text of this particular post was a good laugh because on the surface it really is a hilarious question to ask. But that's as far as you need to take it. One short giggle* and then some actual useful facts if you have any to contribute. If you have no useful facts to contribute (a state far more common than you probably realise) then the giggle on it's own just isn't worth it. Post nothing instead. Why have I even bothered with this polite rant? Well, I'm trying to help those who use the '3/10' or 'you are awful' replies. Those posts were funny once, because they were posted by people with some command of a thing known as 'wit'. They, of course, have long since moved onto other put-downs that are still funny due to use of the aforementioned 'wit'. But those of you still rolling out the same tired things do not have this 'wit', have never had it, and never will have it. My advice is simply to try and contribute something useful to the forums - your command of comedic prose is practically non-existent and you'll do everyone, including yourself, a big favour by not trying to be something you're not. Please note, none of this is an attempt by myself to be funny. I genuinely wanted to point out as clearly as possible what absolute turd-blossoms most of you are. I pride myself on pond scum. Also, "x/10" and "you are awful" were never witty and never funny.. they were always terrible.. How about this one: "favour" (I had to find something to pick at in your post, didn't I?) Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Corbeau Lenoir ZER0. IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.25 05:43:00 - [24] Originally by: Atticus Fynch Must they always have an escort? They don't. Just tell me where you will be flying next time and I'll make sure that you are safe.
Chesty McJubblies Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.09.25 07:07:00 - [25] 1st (page) Suggestion: Remove the "new topic" button from everywhere apart from the list of topics section within a subforum. That'd save those with chronic hand/eye coordination some face.
Antihrist Pripravnik 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.09.25 07:07:00 - [26] Originally by: Corbeau Lenoir Originally by: Atticus Fynch Must they always have an escort? They don't. Just tell me where you will be flying next time and I'll make sure that you are safe. So, you are offering yourself as an "escort service"?!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2010.09.25 07:34:00 - [27] Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik Originally by: Corbeau Lenoir Originally by: Atticus Fynch Must they always have an escort? They don't. Just tell me where you will be flying next time and I'll make sure that you are safe. So, you are offering yourself as an "escort service"?! Might work if he puts on a paperbag and meets a gallente who's into guys..
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.09.25 09:22:00 - [28] If the goal is to move the freighter from high sec to 0.0 (hence going trough low sec) then use worm holes to get there. It takes longer of course, and it's unlikely you get to the target system but you can get down to the target region and then simply use 0.0 travel protocols from there.
Serpents smile	Posted - 2010.09.25 09:33:00 - [29] It's your first freighter. Even in high sec you should be looking over your shoulder. Never ever fly afk. It's a big boat, slow as hell but still can be destroyed with a little effort. Crank up the necessary navigation skills to 5 and the freighter goes, if you fly alone and don't use the webifying trick, a bit faster into warp, still leaving much room to get ganked. I wouldn't bring it to low sec, ever. Just undock in high sec and see how frakking long it takes to align and get into warp. If you serious about bringing in freighter(s) into low sec, train and safe up for a Jump freighter. You still need a friend to light up a cyno for you but it's much, much less dangerous to bring down to low sec, then a normal freighter.
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.25 10:00:00 - [30] Edited by: Zagdul on 25/09/2010 10:00:52 Originally by: Jhoria Englside i give this 2 pages Sniping now. edit: sh.t
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.09.25 10:01:00 - [31] Sniper, Leave it to the experts! -- Alara's Law! As an online discussion on EVE ships grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Dominix approaches 1
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles	Posted - 2010.09.25 10:48:00 - [32] Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 25/09/2010 10:52:56 There are very few valid reasons for taking a standard freighter into lowsec: You need to move something to 0.0 that's too big to be hauled any other way and cannot be built anywhere near the destination. This used to be true for CSAAs and infrastructure upgrades before PI came out, but unless you're moving into an area with no nearby outposts, it's generally easier to build them on site. You're deploying an outpost egg or similar structure that someone's already built in empire space You are supported by several bridging titans and/or a jump bridge network, and can't be be bothered to use JFs --- 34.4:1 mineral compression
sasabor	Posted - 2010.09.25 11:37:00 - [33] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 25/09/2010 10:52:56 There are very few valid reasons for taking a standard freighter into lowsec: You need to move something to 0.0 that's too big to be hauled any other way and cannot be built anywhere near the destination. This used to be true for CSAAs and infrastructure upgrades before PI came out, but unless you're moving into an area with no nearby outposts, it's generally easier to build them on site. You're deploying an outpost egg or similar structure that someone's already built in empire space You are supported by several bridging titans and/or a jump bridge network, and can't be be bothered to use JFs this and alot of the other positive advice, my advice is ask yourself do you really need your freighter for this job a blockade runner can slip in and out of lowsec and 0.0 space with little or no problems, if youcan fly a blockade runner get yourself one asap and use that, only 2 dangers are undocking from stations and any large dedicated gatecamps
Gorthanator	Posted - 2010.09.25 12:07:00 - [34] The planets are richer in lowsec, you get more for PI materials in high-sec, a freighter is cheep, a successfull haul can pay for several, scout, if you can fly in non eve prime time you have the chance of making some isk as a new player. Risk free its not, but the best way to learn how lowsec operates is to actually go to lowsec.
heheheh Phoenix Club	Posted - 2010.09.25 12:23:00 - [35] Unless you have a jump freighter dont even bother, any ship that can tank the sentries will make mincemeat out of you.

CCP Adida C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.25 13:59:00 - [36] Removed a trolling comment Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online


Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2010.09.25 14:01:00 - [37] hmm my Veldspar courier contact was all high-sec... why the detour? Secure 3rd party service \| my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'

Jack Gilligan Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.09.25 15:13:00 - [38] Train your jump skills and upgrade to a jumpfreighter. It doesn't take THAT long to do post training a conventional freighter to do so, and some trading in Empire with the regular freighter will make you the ISK to buy one by the time you are ready. Jumpfreighters have but one purpose: bypass lowsec gate camps, as you can cyno directly out of highsec back to 0.0. Your point of risk is of course hitting that lowsec system but if the grid is clear and you cyno onto a station it's not that high. Conventional freighters absolutely require an escort anywhere except in highsec or it's going to be a dead freighter. About the only exception to this is if you use titan bridges to move them.
Pharos Pharos	Posted - 2010.09.25 18:37:00 - [39] Technically, freighters can be almost perfectly safe in lowsec if you're not in a hurry. As soon as you jump through a gate, if there is anything that can tackle you there, log off under gatecloak. It'll take five or so gank bses to have the dps to pop you in the thirty seconds before you disappear, and it's pretty easy to avoid those by staying away from major lowsec pipes and checking the map for population. Scouting with an alt before logging back on is good, or scan whilst in your e-warp back to the log off spot and log again mid-warp if anyone is waiting to pull another 30 second disappearing act. Using a scout is obviously a better solution but I like to highlight the near invulnerability of unscouted freighters so something will get done about it.
Aina O'Sinnor	Posted - 2010.09.27 12:01:00 - [40] Edited by: Aina O''Sinnor on 27/09/2010 12:02:33 Hello there, this helped me understand, still I lost a my Pi±ata one day :( Freighter escort guide Well, don't forget to insure the big candy. Low sec is a harsh place.
Morux	Posted - 2010.09.27 15:06:00 - [41] Originally by: Marak Mocam The word Pi±ata comes to mind. Does that work for an answer? You're flying a candy dispenser through an elementary school filled with troubled youth and hoping they leave you alone. Get someone to fly point and see that the little sh... err, "trouble youths" aren't in the halls you're passing through or you probably won't make it. LOL That pretty much sums it up.
Viribus Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.09.28 06:36:00 - [42] I once set my freighter alt's autopilot to an island system, surrounded entirely by low-sec. After I safely docked I tried to find a route back and my sleep deprived brain didn't make the connection for five minutes, when I realized that I'd accidentally afk-autopiloted a solo Obelisk through 4 low-sec systems. Oops.
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.09.28 06:43:00 - [43] I say dont be a ***** and just do it. No single person will be able to kill you before you get back to gate even if they do have a titan.. ITS A WAR!
Serpents smile	Posted - 2010.09.28 06:56:00 - [44] Originally by: Lana Torrin No single person will be able to kill you before you get back to gate. That's correct, but if his destination is a few jumps further into low sec... boom
Valeronx Celestial Horizon Corp. Fallen Angels Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.22 03:49:00 - [45] Originally by: Lana Torrin I say dont be a ***** and just do it. No single person will be able to kill you before you get back to gate even if they do have a titan.. It's not the single one you worry about, it's his 12 buddies that will show up when he starts yelling in Vent. .
Diomedes Calypso	Posted - 2010.10.22 04:38:00 - [46] Originally by: Culmen 3/10 This troll thread requires more then a sentence to win troll. It was funny in its simlicity though
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.10.22 04:45:00 - [47] Originally by: Valeronx It's not the single one you worry about, it's his 12 buddies that will show up when he starts yelling in Vent. . Do you plan on Necroing month old threads all night, what is this number five? -- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen! For Great Justice!
Valeronx Celestial Horizon Corp. Fallen Angels Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.22 04:56:00 - [48] Don't be afraid to look around Alara....Those numbers at the lower left of the main page? Those are page numbers. The EVE forums extend past page one. I post in threads that interest me.
Denaris Aschanna	Posted - 2010.10.22 12:40:00 - [49] Originally by: Stick Cult How about this one: "favour" (I had to find something to pick at in your post, didn't I?) You fail, lol 'Favor' is the version of choice for lazy Americans, whereas 'Favour' is the British spelling, and therefore the correct one lol
Sergeant Spot Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.	Posted - 2010.10.22 16:37:00 - [50] Prior to Titan Jump Bridges and Jump Freighters, I REGULARLY ran freighters to Delve, and even into Fountain (there are STILL 1600+ shuttles in the 7BX station from a supply run I did about 3 years ago, not to mention 100s in several stations in Delve that were still there when I came back from my break.....) Prior to Freighters, I was running expanded Itty5s. I still have 10 shares of ISS stock from helping them haul cargo for their first player built outpost. Rule one: If you are not willing to scout your route ahead of time in a fast ship, making multiple Bookmarks in each system (and NOT just between gates), then don't bother going low sec or 0.0. Rule Two: They are waiting to kill you. Be paranoid. Rule Three: Be PATIENT (or die) As said above, an IN CORP webbing alt is wise HOWEVER, if you get webbed, EVEN BY AN IN CORP ALT, you are on an Aggro timer. Logging off in space is suddenly a BAD idea. Combat fitted escorts should NOT be fitted to win a battle. They should be fitted to get the Freighter out of harms way (possible to do both, but even when planning escort types and fitting them, REMEMBER THE MAIN MISSION.) Play nice while you butcher each other.
Agent Known	Posted - 2010.10.22 16:46:00 - [51] Jump Freighters may seem like the safe alternative, but not so much when all of a sudden you see a supercap deploying its fighter bombers at your so-called "deathstar" POS... On another note, I also have an annoying sig.
Scared Strait	Posted - 2010.10.22 17:47:00 - [52] Edited by: Scared Strait on 22/10/2010 17:49:03 Originally by: Jhoria Englside i give this 2 pages We can do better.
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2010.10.22 17:53:00 - [53] When moving a freighter through low/null with valuables inside, just bring four or five cheapo blackbirds crammed with ewar. Idea is to jam up enough attackers to make it to the next gate. It's not an expensive security measure, it'll stop small and medium-sized ambushes, and if you're ambushed by a big force you're dead no matter what.
Tau Cabalander Caldari	Posted - 2010.10.22 18:00:00 - [54] Yes, a freighter needs an escort into lowsec, and a titan bridge from there. I accidentally flew my Charon into a 0.4 system once. My biggest fear was not getting scramed, but getting webbed or bumped. It took me forever to get back to the gate; I should have warped to a planet and back. One person in a cruiser tried to attack and bump me, but he didn't know how to bump right and left.
Cozmik R5 Minmatar Mobile Alcohol Processing Units Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2010.10.22 19:09:00 - [55] Judging by what I see almost everyday in Heimatar Low-sec, freighters are too damn safe !!! ____________________ Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
Captain Sweatervest	Posted - 2010.10.22 23:42:00 - [56] Originally by: Cozmik R5 Judging by what I see almost everyday in Heimatar Low-sec, freighters are too damn safe !!! Fix your batphone then, a freighter moves slow as hell, and if you find him three jumps out of his destination you've got plenty of time to hotdrop it.
Tangonis Galt Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.10.23 18:46:00 - [57] Originally by: Sergeant Spot Rule one: If you are not willing to scout your route ahead of time in a fast ship, making multiple Bookmarks in each system (and NOT just between gates), then don't bother going low sec or 0.0. Rule Two: They are waiting to kill you. Be paranoid. Rule Three: Be PATIENT (or die) As said above, an IN CORP webbing alt is wise HOWEVER, if you get webbed, EVEN BY AN IN CORP ALT, you are on an Aggro timer. Logging off in space is suddenly a BAD idea. Combat fitted escorts should NOT be fitted to win a battle. They should be fitted to get the Freighter out of harms way (possible to do both, but even when planning escort types and fitting them, REMEMBER THE MAIN MISSION.) Sound advice.
Internet Knight The Kobayashi Maru	Posted - 2010.10.23 19:25:00 - [58] Originally by: Atticus Fynch This is my first freighter and I wasn't sure how well it would stand to attack considering there no open slots for modules and it's as slow as molasses. So I was curious, and yes the question was sincere. Log into Singularity and just about anyone there might be willing to give you a demonstration, especially if you're near Orvolle so people don't have to jump far to get to you to give that demonstration. ---
Koti Resci Knighthawk Light Industries	Posted - 2010.10.23 19:29:00 - [59] Originally by: Chribba hmm my Veldspar courier contact was all high-sec... why the detour? Silly Chribba, your start and end locations were in a highsec pocket!
Teryl Manara	Posted - 2010.10.23 19:31:00 - [60] Originally by: Viribus I once set my freighter alt's autopilot to an island system, surrounded entirely by low-sec. After I safely docked I tried to find a route back and my sleep deprived brain didn't make the connection for five minutes, when I realized that I'd accidentally afk-autopiloted a solo Obelisk through 4 low-sec systems. Oops. You, err, made 4 jumps in a freighter in five minutes on autopilot? I call complete and total shenanigans.
Steve Celeste Overdogs	Posted - 2010.10.23 19:40:00 - [61] Originally by: Shinde Kudasai Originally by: Alt Tabbed Jump through gate if(system has people) logout; else(warp to next gate); if(freighter.logout) scanprobe; else(yar) No aggro if the freighter pilot logs under gate cloak.

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