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Michelle Vega
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Posted - 2010.09.25 18:39:00 -
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If someone wants to pay $5000 for a t2 bpo, is that considered RMT if the transaction is made?
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Dalmont Delantee
Gallente Fidelis Discordia
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Posted - 2010.09.25 18:39:00 -
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I think you can answer the question yourself with that....
Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons |
Lithalnas
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.25 18:42:00 -
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This IS a violation of EULA and is considered a RMT. Don't do it. -------------
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.09.25 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Michelle Vega pay $5000
Originally by: Michelle Vega is that considered Real Money Trade
Herp.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.25 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Michelle Vega $5000
Real Money
Quote: for a t2 bpo
Trade
Quote: is that considered RMT?
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.09.25 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 25/09/2010 18:53:07 Just to play devils advocate, CCP would have no way of knowing you recieved real world funds outside of the game, they'd just see the BPO changing hands.
Unless of course you talk about it in game while the transaction is being made, or make a thread about it.
My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Michelle Vega
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Posted - 2010.09.25 18:52:00 -
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K thanks :)
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Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.09.25 18:57:00 -
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Who f'ing cares? Take the money and buy a new account if you get banned.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.25 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane Who f'ing cares? Take the money and buy a new account if you get banned.
Hell buy 4 to 5 off the character market!
Indulge you deserve it!
-- Alara's Law!
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Pi'Ell
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Posted - 2010.09.25 19:24:00 -
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Or sell a paper clip on ebay for $5000. Throw the T2 BPO in for free.
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.09.25 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Pi'Ell Or sell a paper clip on ebay for $5000. Throw the T2 BPO in for free.
eBay started punishing people for using that "trick" years ago.
...Don't ask me where or when I heard that. Nothing to do with me personally, I've never used eBay in my life, not that I can recall anyway.
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shady trader
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Posted - 2010.09.25 19:53:00 -
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The only way this would be allowed is if the purchaser spent the $50000 buying game time cards/plex's and then trading them for the BPO in game as isk.
Otherwise if CCP found out both the buyer and seller would be banned.
Plus you would run the risk of being scammed any way if you did it out of game. Macrointel, the place were the nature order of the universe does not hold sway. Pirates and ore thief's are congratulated by carebears for the actions. |
Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.25 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: shady trader The only way this would be allowed is if the purchaser spent the $50000 buying game time cards/plex's and then trading them for the BPO in game as isk.
Otherwise if CCP found out both the buyer and seller would be banned.
Plus you would run the risk of being scammed any way if you did it out of game.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.09.25 20:59:00 -
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that someone would pay 5K for a game item makes me want to go live in a cave.
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.09.25 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer that someone would pay 5K for a game item makes me want to go live in a cave.
You should see what people pay for items in certain text MUDs.
You're probably thinking, "Orange Lagomorph is just shooting off at the mouth hoping for nerd cred."
Naw, man... man, naw. You could literally buy a Jaguar with the amount of RL dollars some people have spent. For text... these aren't even pixels we're talking about.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.25 21:33:00 -
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Edited by: Steve Thomas on 25/09/2010 21:34:36 Edited by: Steve Thomas on 25/09/2010 21:33:38
Originally by: Orange Lagomorph
Originally by: Pi'Ell Or sell a paper clip on ebay for $5000. Throw the T2 BPO in for free.
eBay started punishing people for using that "trick" years ago.
...Don't ask me where or when I heard that. Nothing to do with me personally, I've never used eBay in my life, not that I can recall anyway.
a long time ago in a gameworld far far away a Game company named Verant asked Ebay to take down sales of accounts characters and in game gold, needless to say Ebay at the time said No...That annoyed Verants parent company just a little bit. . .
thats when you started to see all kinds of weirness pop up in Ebay listings,
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Otocinclus
Minmatar Project Nemesis The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.09.25 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Michelle Vega K thanks :)
Quote: Unless of course you talk about it in game while the transaction is being made, or make a thread about it.
This guy really is the king of ignorance isn't he.
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dtyk
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Posted - 2010.09.25 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer that someone would pay 5K for a game item makes me want to go live in a cave.
1) Buy t2 BPO with 5000$. 2) Use BPO to make ISK. 3) Sell BPO for additional ISK. 4) Sell ISK for more than 5000$
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Guffimur Rogidi
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Posted - 2010.09.25 22:32:00 -
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I understand that using real money is bad, but what if I use some WoW gold to buy a t2 BPO? WoW gold is not real money, so it can't be classed as RMT. Or is virtual money from games other than Eve transactions (VMFGOTET) also bad?
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.09.25 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: dtyk 1) Buy t2 BPO with 5000$. 2) Use BPO to make ISK. 3) Sell BPO for additional ISK. 4) Sell ISK for more than 5000$
I understand the possibility, but only an idiot would go through with such a transaction. Depending on who trades what to whom first, either the T2 BPO can be stolen by the potential buyer, or the $5,000 can be stolen by the seller. A third-party service (do these even exist for shady RMT deals?) could potentially steal one or both.
There are so many different ways these scenarios could happen.
If you're going to buy a T2 BPO, buy it with $5,000 worth of PLEX/ISK/GTC the legit way, then let the seller do as he pleases with the ISK (whatever that might be). No risk for you, no risk for him, until the moment you try to do something shady with your ISK, I suppose.
Then again, I don't understand ISK sellers at all. If I had $50,000 worth of ISK in EVE, I'd just be happy I never had to worry about ISK in EVE ever again. Some people must be pretty desperate and/or poor.
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.09.26 00:49:00 -
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Mal Lokrano
Gallente The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.26 01:16:00 -
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Edited by: Mal Lokrano on 26/09/2010 01:20:02 I wonder if the op goes to the police department and asks:
If I give 150 bucks to a prostitute for certain acts, is it an illegal transaction?
I mean holy crap, I have seen some daft questions in my time, but this one nearly takes the prize.
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.09.26 03:58:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 26/09/2010 04:04:48
Originally by: dtyk 1) Buy t2 BPO with 5000$. 2) Use BPO to make ISK. 3) Sell BPO for additional ISK. 4) Sell ISK for more than 5000$
Ok, let's do the math then... The most expensive T2 BPO at the moment (if the seller is not a bloody collector trying to gouge you to no end, so assuming a relatively "fair" trade) would be a HULK BPO, for somewhere in the vicinity of 80 bil ISK. It takes somewhere up to around 4 years to make that amount of money back, by the way. Ok, say 3 years at best. 80 bil ISK would be translated via the "official" channel right about now from about 115 GTCs -> 230 PLEX (give or take a few), so around 4000$. Hmm... methinks the guy above might borderline have a point. But just borderline.
You know, since the first point can already happen without breaking the EULA.
The problem would be into actually turning those ISK back into RL cash. You won't get such good "exchange rates" unless you find an idiot to purchase it "as is" for cash and you'd have a high probability of getting banned, thus nullifying your "investment" and turning it into a net loss. So... wait 3 years to make those ISK back and hope T2 BPO value hasn't deteriorated too much, also hope ISK//PLEX rates haven't deteriorated too much either to destroy your paltry potential profit, hope you don't get banned trying to sell it and also... well, you know what, that's already a bit too many "hopes" for any reasonable person's taste, no need to keep going. Chances are very big you'd be facing a net loss either way. Might as well just use the money to bet on sports or play in a casino, you'd probably have better odds of actually seeing any cash back from it, and much faster.
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CCP Jericho
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Posted - 2010.09.26 05:25:00 -
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This is RMT for sure, and if you ever get caught (/me waving the Veritaserum Potion in hand), you will see how we follow the EULA like our Bible.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.09.26 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Jericho This is RMT for sure, and if you ever get caught (/me waving the Veritaserum Potion in hand), you will see how we follow the EULA like our Bible.
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Lexa HeIIfury
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Posted - 2010.09.26 05:47:00 -
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For $5000 who gives a ****. -------------------------------------------------------------------
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2010.09.26 07:01:00 -
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Take the $5000 - don't give the T2 bpo.
Then it is not RMT |
Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.09.26 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie Take the $5000 - don't give the T2 bpo. Then it is not RMT
Oh, yeah, don't break any gaming rules, break real-life laws instead !
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de v
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Posted - 2010.09.26 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: Orange Lagomorph Naw, man... man, naw. You could literally buy a Jaguar with the amount of RL dollars some people have spent. For text... these aren't even pixels we're talking about.
Actually, text is also displayed using pixels.
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.09.26 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: de v Actually, text is also displayed using pixels.
Well, if you want to get technical, we're also just a collection of spatial pixels (particles) And also, money in the bank is not even pixels. _
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