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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
343
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Posted - 2012.08.01 00:05:00 -
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Salicaz wrote: No, they're the only country I know who can be surprised attacked 2 years into a World War :)
It's called "baiting". Then they blobbed the hell out of the both the Japanese and Germans.
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Xuixien
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
77
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Posted - 2012.08.01 00:10:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Salicaz wrote: No, they're the only country I know who can be surprised attacked 2 years into a World War :)
It's called "baiting". Then they blobbed the hell out of the both the Japanese and Germans.
+1 Rabble Rabble!! |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
146

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Posted - 2012.08.01 01:54:00 -
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Keep it on topic please. No need to drag actual countries into this. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Ensign Community Communication Liasions (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
343
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Posted - 2012.08.01 02:32:00 -
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My 2 Cents~
Amarr figured out how to abuse the system (infinite LP on Vulnerable systems + massive offensive plex buffers making it impossible to decontest) so good job on that, ya'll won in that regard (and to think you guys complain about FW mechanics :P).
Amarr finally realized that, "Wow, you know... we really do have a lot of guys!" at about the same time Minmatar folk were going away on vacation or taking EVE-breaks and becoming lost in thousands of Steam Summer Sale games. (OMG Crusader Kings II owns my life now.)
Nulli Secunda showed up to Kourmonen with 150 dudes. Congrats on taking that system, I know you've wanted it for a long time and between the latest push for it and all of the past ones that fell a bit short, you deserve it.
We'll be around defending Huola and trying to take back Kourmonen, so see you on the battlefield. Really, Inferno has created more fights than ever in Faction Warfare. It's not really CCP's fault that one side or the other has more numbers/firepower at any given time, that is just the way the cookie crumbles.

I'm having fun.  Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Lexmana
628
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Posted - 2012.08.01 07:46:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:[quote=Xuixien]
A simplified example, a warzone of 10 systems. 100 plexers on one side and 10 plexers on the other. These systems auto flip.
Assuming that these plexers plex at the same rate, the side with 10 plexers can only hold onto 1 system at any given time. This is not reflective of skill or ability, its just a numbers game like nullsec.
The problem with your example is that, besides being oversimplified to the point of uselessness, is that as far as system control is concerned it's going to be a numbers game either way, so you're making a moot point. How can it be a moot point when the end results is completely different? Of course you want autoflip and constant T5. Who wouldn't that for themselves? But do you really think it would be good for the game? |

Horak Thor
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
21
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Posted - 2012.08.01 09:30:00 -
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Derp post |

Horak Thor
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
21
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Posted - 2012.08.01 09:30:00 -
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Salicaz wrote:Pre-Inferno you performed a massive land grab- Then claimed it was your leet pvp.
Just after inferno you took system after system (sorry, the alt army did) due to imbalanced rats..yet..still claimed it was your leet pvp
Before nulli joined you had 19 vunerable systems, this is because no pvper wants to dplex (understandable) and your gunless frig brigade won't do it, and have no nowhere to now plex have left you.
A few months ago you all thought this was immensly funny rolling around in your isk toasting each other about how leet your pvp was whilst being space rich. Working as intended even. Whilst denying it was the hordes of LP farmers dictating the front.
However, now you spend most of your time reallocating assets, the forum noise has stopped. Where is your leet pvp to stop us? Didn't both Hans and Susan claim "we should have fought harder"? Where is your leet pvp?
And for the record, Nulli are like the Americans of WW2. They shortened the conflict a bit, but will still claim they won the war.
So Minmitar, please. Leave your excuses here.
Well you pretty much said it all tbh, def plex mechanics are crap being able to unlimited vulnerable buffer a system means a vuln system can't be saved realistically. Also our army of gunless alt lp whores have switched to you guys so we don't have those bastards (mixed blessing) All the advantage is in the hands of the attacker.
Anyway the pvp is awesome atm, don't you agree the last 4- 6 weeks has been boring? Plus since fweddit got better, it's been good to have nulli padding out my kb instead, thanks guys :)
Anyway get to tier 5 hold it for a bit once your lp store items devalue 0.0 alts etc will seesaw back to us, this needs to be fixed I'd rather just fight our ammarian brosefs tbh. |

Amymuffmuff
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
14
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Posted - 2012.08.01 09:40:00 -
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My view. Amarr suck? Lol.
We have known form a while that this was going to happen and it was just a matter of time It wasn't really hard to see how to exploit it to allow the losers to gain what they need
if you ain't noticed as well lost of us are on holiday so hurry back fellow minmatards. lets get back at the pew! Iron Oxide. 2IC & Diplomat Minmatar Milita KB & TS Lead Admin Queen of the Channel Operators Amarr Surplus Equipment Manager-á |

Xuixien
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
77
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:37:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:Xuixien wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:[quote=Xuixien]
A simplified example, a warzone of 10 systems. 100 plexers on one side and 10 plexers on the other. These systems auto flip.
Assuming that these plexers plex at the same rate, the side with 10 plexers can only hold onto 1 system at any given time. This is not reflective of skill or ability, its just a numbers game like nullsec.
The problem with your example is that, besides being oversimplified to the point of uselessness, is that as far as system control is concerned it's going to be a numbers game either way, so you're making a moot point. How can it be a moot point when the end results is completely different? Of course you want autoflip and constant T5. Who wouldn't that for themselves? But do you really think it would be good for the game?
AutoFlip would not lead to "constant T5" for either side. In either scenario the side with the most farmers has a clear advantage. An auto-flipping system would give the side with the smallest number a chance.
But either way, it was just one suggestion I threw out there. I think it has some merit in certain circumstances, I guess you do not. That is OK but there's no point in obsessing over it. Rabble Rabble!! |

Lexmana
628
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:46:00 -
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Amymuffmuff wrote:My view. Amarr suck? Lol.
We have known form a while that this was going to happen and it was just a matter of time It wasn't really hard to see how to exploit it to allow the losers to gain what they need
if you ain't noticed as well lost of us are on holiday so hurry back fellow minmatards. lets get back at the pew! So there it is. The new Minmatar excuse. I gave you to much credit thinking you would be more creative. |

Amymuffmuff
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
14
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Posted - 2012.08.01 11:13:00 -
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Oh yes. because i wanted to give an excuse for the fact you are currently winning the plex war
fine by me if it makes you feel good. Iron Oxide. 2IC & Diplomat Minmatar Milita KB & TS Lead Admin Queen of the Channel Operators Amarr Surplus Equipment Manager-á |

Blitz Suahien
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:20:00 -
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Salicaz wrote:
And for the record, Nulli are like the Americans of WW2. They shortened the conflict a bit, but will still claim they won the war.
I love how the Europeans always seem to forget how there was like...and entire OTHER war that the Americans fought the majority of by themselves. I mean, aside from diminishing the huge role they played in the European theatre. I also think this is a fairly ridiculous analogy because Nulli haven't really said anything on the matter.
More on topic, it would be really cool if my fellow Amarr-bro's didn't act exactly like the minmatar did on the forums, I actually like you guys. Don't be douchebags. Besides, there's still a lot of territory to take. |

Crosi Wesdo
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
340
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Posted - 2012.08.01 12:28:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Xuixien wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote: Under your suggested system if nulli stay and no one can interest another entity to join then the minmatar are the losers of today AND tomorrow. With perma vuln systems and no lp for defensive systems matar still have a reason and can afford to fight and plex as the sheer numbers of the enemy is balanced by the mechanics.
Sorry I'm not seeing. You'll have to elaborate more. A simplified example, a warzone of 10 systems. 100 plexers on one side and 10 plexers on the other. These systems auto flip. Assuming that these plexers plex at the same rate, the side with 10 plexers can only hold onto 1 system at any given time. This is not reflective of skill or ability, its just a numbers game like nullsec. The problem with your example is that, besides being oversimplified to the point of uselessness, is that as far as system control is concerned it's going to be a numbers game either way, so you're making a moot point.
No, the current system is as far from a numbers game as possible. in a fw with 10 systems, 100v10 plexers. The 10 plexers can still make the 10 systems vulnerable even if it will take them 10 times longer (assuming no defensive). Once vulnerable, the side with 10 players can swing the systems in their favour. Sure, they side with 100 plexers will have occupancy more often, but with auto switching systems the side with 10 players will NEVER have more than 1 system. Its basic mathematics.
The only simple thing about it is there is the assumption of no defence, which apart from key home systems is largely correct anyway. |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Caldari State Capturing
181
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:10:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Xuixien wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Xuixien wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote: Under your suggested system if nulli stay and no one can interest another entity to join then the minmatar are the losers of today AND tomorrow. With perma vuln systems and no lp for defensive systems matar still have a reason and can afford to fight and plex as the sheer numbers of the enemy is balanced by the mechanics.
Sorry I'm not seeing. You'll have to elaborate more. A simplified example, a warzone of 10 systems. 100 plexers on one side and 10 plexers on the other. These systems auto flip. Assuming that these plexers plex at the same rate, the side with 10 plexers can only hold onto 1 system at any given time. This is not reflective of skill or ability, its just a numbers game like nullsec. The problem with your example is that, besides being oversimplified to the point of uselessness, is that as far as system control is concerned it's going to be a numbers game either way, so you're making a moot point. No, the current system is as far from a numbers game as possible (not completely removed but there are balancing mechanics). in a fw with 10 systems, 100v10 plexers. The 10 plexers can still make the 10 systems vulnerable even if it will take them 10 times longer (assuming no defensive). Once vulnerable, the side with 10 plexers can swing the systems in their favour. Sure, the 10man side will lose their systems 10 times quicker than it took to gain them. And of course the side with 100 plexers will have occupancy more often, but with auto switching systems the side with 10 players will NEVER have more than 1 system. Its basic mathematics. In the current mechanics, individuals on the 10 man side entering the stage where they upgrade their systems (everything being equal) will have 10x the LP that the individuals on the 100man side has. This is by virtue of upgrade days for the 10 man side being 10x less frequent. The only simple thing about this example is there is the assumption of no defence, which apart from key home systems is largely correct anyway. There is a certain balance to all this even if it does swing from one sides favour to the other.
In current system this all is just a part of some ******** theory, not the truth. |

Capitol One
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
43
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:28:00 -
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Amymuffmuff wrote:Oh yes. because i wanted to give an excuse for the fact you are currently winning the plex war
fine by me if it makes you feel good.
You make me feel good :3 |

Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
142
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:31:00 -
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biggest joke is .... Hans is now very silent and is not advocating current system too much. CCP is dead silent about FW and probably is scratching their heads WTF went wrong with that not very well prepared plan .... and I am very afraid when the **** will hit gal/cal front, which is now decently ballanced, but I kinda see some structural damage and risks in very near future.
all alternatives of future looks kinda stupid .... even if Amar will flip the tide and will take minnie space, there will be again hordes of alts plexing and switching sides (which is not even funny). Actually there might be politics behind it .... who will be farmers best friend will gain the docking rights :D ... so like pimps we will be herding our plexing farmers ....
well as was said many times by CCP .... working as intended ... stupid .... but working .... 
IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free?>>>????-áPublic ch.: Basterds on vacation Hans resign from CSM! |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
345
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:33:00 -
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Hidden Snake wrote: biggest joke is .... Hans is now very silent and is not advocating current system too much. CCP is dead silent about FW and probably is scratching their heads WTF went wrong with that not very well prepared plan .... and I am very afraid when the **** will hit gal/cal front, which is now decently ballanced, but I kinda see some structural damage and risks in very near future. all alternatives of future looks kinda stupid .... even if Amar will flip the tide and will take minnie space, there will be again hordes of alts plexing and switching sides (which is not even funny). Actually there might be politics behind it .... who will be farmers best friend will gain the docking rights :D ... so like pimps we will be herding our plexing farmers .... well as was said many times by CCP .... working as intended ... stupid .... but working .... 
I liked your post because you seem like the kind of person who needs their tin-foiling, black-helicoptering, New World Ordering validated by other people.
Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Caldari State Capturing
181
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:41:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:Hidden Snake wrote: biggest joke is .... Hans is now very silent and is not advocating current system too much. CCP is dead silent about FW and probably is scratching their heads WTF went wrong with that not very well prepared plan .... and I am very afraid when the **** will hit gal/cal front, which is now decently ballanced, but I kinda see some structural damage and risks in very near future. all alternatives of future looks kinda stupid .... even if Amar will flip the tide and will take minnie space, there will be again hordes of alts plexing and switching sides (which is not even funny). Actually there might be politics behind it .... who will be farmers best friend will gain the docking rights :D ... so like pimps we will be herding our plexing farmers .... well as was said many times by CCP .... working as intended ... stupid .... but working ....  I liked your post because you seem like the kind of person who needs their tin-foiling, black-helicoptering, New World Ordering validated by other people.
CCP has balanced FW couple times just because gallente and minmatar could not compete.
Amarr does not need any CCP action to get back in business, as usuall players can handle situation. |

Crosi Wesdo
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
340
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:45:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:Hidden Snake wrote: biggest joke is .... Hans is now very silent and is not advocating current system too much. CCP is dead silent about FW and probably is scratching their heads WTF went wrong with that not very well prepared plan .... and I am very afraid when the **** will hit gal/cal front, which is now decently ballanced, but I kinda see some structural damage and risks in very near future. all alternatives of future looks kinda stupid .... even if Amar will flip the tide and will take minnie space, there will be again hordes of alts plexing and switching sides (which is not even funny). Actually there might be politics behind it .... who will be farmers best friend will gain the docking rights :D ... so like pimps we will be herding our plexing farmers .... well as was said many times by CCP .... working as intended ... stupid .... but working ....  I liked your post because you seem like the kind of person who needs their tin-foiling, black-helicoptering, New World Ordering validated by other people. CCP has balanced FW couple times just because gallente and minmatar could not compete. Amarr does not need any CCP action to get back in business, as usuall players can handle situation.
Has damar got control of this account? Thats two posts from BM in a row that have no relevance to the quotation in the post. Thats usually a damar trait. |

subtle turtle
We Reach Around Situation: Normal
30
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:47:00 -
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David Devant wrote:If the consensus is that T5 will keep flipping back and forth, how about instead of complaining instead we keep really really quiet and get really really space rich. And then after like a year or so we can have this massive space battle with huge spaceships and **** and I'll be all like akakakakakak and you'll be all like pew pew pew. Gonna be awesome. 
QFT. The PVP in FW is still awesome, and now there is a chance to make isk while shooting people. Everyone be quite, or the rest of eve will come in and the high and null sec will be abandoned! |

Xuixien
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
78
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:48:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:Hidden Snake wrote: biggest joke is .... Hans is now very silent and is not advocating current system too much. CCP is dead silent about FW and probably is scratching their heads WTF went wrong with that not very well prepared plan .... and I am very afraid when the **** will hit gal/cal front, which is now decently ballanced, but I kinda see some structural damage and risks in very near future. all alternatives of future looks kinda stupid .... even if Amar will flip the tide and will take minnie space, there will be again hordes of alts plexing and switching sides (which is not even funny). Actually there might be politics behind it .... who will be farmers best friend will gain the docking rights :D ... so like pimps we will be herding our plexing farmers .... well as was said many times by CCP .... working as intended ... stupid .... but working ....  I liked your post because you seem like the kind of person who needs their tin-foiling, black-helicoptering, New World Ordering validated by other people. CCP has balanced FW couple times just because gallente and minmatar could not compete. Amarr does not need any CCP action to get back in business, as usuall players can handle situation. Has damar got control of this account? Thats two posts from BM in a row that have no relevance to the quotation in the post. Thats usually a damar trait.
BM is one of Damar's many alts.
Rabble Rabble!! |

Cpt Branko
Zawa's Fan Club
35
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Posted - 2012.08.01 13:55:00 -
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From what I understand, FW only exists for farming really incredible amounts of ISK with disposable T1 ships.
I don't understand why the drama. |

Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
87
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Posted - 2012.08.01 15:35:00 -
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FW is purrrrfect! Is sexy time? |

David Clausewitz
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
40
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Posted - 2012.08.01 15:51:00 -
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Salicaz wrote:
And for the record, Nulli are like the Americans of WW2. They shortened the conflict a bit, but will still claim they won the war.
Off-topic, but:
It's debatable whether the Axis would have actually lost WW2 without "any" American intervention.
It's one thing to say they would have been defeated anyways without direct military intervention from America. It's an entirely different thing to say the Axis would have been defeated anyways without any American supplies, foreign aid, or indirect aid being sent to the Allied//Comintern nations. |

David Clausewitz
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
40
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Posted - 2012.08.01 15:54:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Salicaz wrote:Pre-Inferno you performed a massive land grab- Then claimed it was your leet pvp.
Just after inferno you took system after system (sorry, the alt army did) due to imbalanced rats..yet..still claimed it was your leet pvp
Before nulli joined you had 19 vunerable systems, this is because no pvper wants to dplex (understandable) and your gunless frig brigade won't do it, and have no nowhere to now plex have left you.
A few months ago you all thought this was immensly funny rolling around in your isk toasting each other about how leet your pvp was whilst being space rich. Working as intended even. Whilst denying it was the hordes of LP farmers dictating the front.
However, now you spend most of your time reallocating assets, the forum noise has stopped. Where is your leet pvp to stop us? Didn't both Hans and Susan claim "we should have fought harder"? Where is your leet pvp?
And for the record, Nulli are like the Americans of WW2. They shortened the conflict a bit, but will still claim they won the war.
So Minmitar, please. Leave your excuses here. This in an environment where the Amarr had roughly 50/50 pvp numbers (varying by timezone)
What? hahahahah |

Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
144
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Posted - 2012.08.01 17:00:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:Hidden Snake wrote: biggest joke is .... Hans is now very silent and is not advocating current system too much. CCP is dead silent about FW and probably is scratching their heads WTF went wrong with that not very well prepared plan .... and I am very afraid when the **** will hit gal/cal front, which is now decently ballanced, but I kinda see some structural damage and risks in very near future. all alternatives of future looks kinda stupid .... even if Amar will flip the tide and will take minnie space, there will be again hordes of alts plexing and switching sides (which is not even funny). Actually there might be politics behind it .... who will be farmers best friend will gain the docking rights :D ... so like pimps we will be herding our plexing farmers .... well as was said many times by CCP .... working as intended ... stupid .... but working ....  I liked your post because you seem like the kind of person who needs their tin-foiling, black-helicoptering, New World Ordering validated by other people.
why? I am just posting to facts ... i was in contact with Hans before the patch and he knew what he was doing and CCP was very loud how awsome the new experience will be (with sidenote we all will be guinea pigs for null light). Now they have no idea what to do (except for major nerf), because they lack the conception .... IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free?>>>????-áPublic ch.: Basterds on vacation Hans resign from CSM! |

Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
303
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Posted - 2012.08.01 20:59:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:Hidden Snake wrote: biggest joke is .... Hans is now very silent and is not advocating current system too much. CCP is dead silent about FW and probably is scratching their heads WTF went wrong with that not very well prepared plan .... and I am very afraid when the **** will hit gal/cal front, which is now decently ballanced, but I kinda see some structural damage and risks in very near future. all alternatives of future looks kinda stupid .... even if Amar will flip the tide and will take minnie space, there will be again hordes of alts plexing and switching sides (which is not even funny). Actually there might be politics behind it .... who will be farmers best friend will gain the docking rights :D ... so like pimps we will be herding our plexing farmers .... well as was said many times by CCP .... working as intended ... stupid .... but working ....  I liked your post because you seem like the kind of person who needs their tin-foiling, black-helicoptering, New World Ordering validated by other people.
You need to dumb down your sarcasm towards him so that he gets it. Black-helicoptering and New World Ordering was a bit too fancy for his level of education.
Gallente FW Blog http://iamsheriff.com/blog C'est La Eve :) |

sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
259
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Posted - 2012.08.01 22:42:00 -
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So is this the thread to give minnies there medal for taking all the systems?
O yeah, my bad.
Anyways. Carry on with whatever this thread is. I would join in the trolling but, I'm on both sides and **** knows which one I'm logged in on atm. Just gonna post and see what happens.
Fake Edit, I may be under some sort of influence. |

Silence iKillYouu
KA POW POW Inc Late Night Alliance
185
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Posted - 2012.08.03 08:48:00 -
[89] - Quote
blah blah blah
http://fw-frontline.blogspot.com/ |

jjohnpaul xvii
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
12
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Posted - 2012.08.10 10:06:00 -
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Salicaz wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Salicaz wrote:And for the record, Nulli are like the Americans of WW2. They shortened the conflict a bit, but will still claim they won the war. You make it sound like WBR won WW2 all by yourself. Where did I give that impression exactly? Where did I mention WBR?
(Darth Vader voice) > ''And now the circle of trolling is complete.''
Salicaz.....waaaay too easy. You continue to make yourself look silly. It's Space Game. For the love of god relax. |
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