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Braitai Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.09.29 21:00:00 - [1] Originally by: CCP Chronotis having a constant 70+ DPS beating down on a ship is a big no. We won't be returning to the days or rocket crows > rest. I very much doubt that would happen even if rockets could do constant dps (though I'm not advocating they should). More has changed since those days than just rocket balance. The new warp scramblers changed 'ceptor combat considerably. The Crow's lack of tank would most likely compensate for the ability to do constant DPS. Admittedly, a duel prop Malediction would be bit of beast. I do not have sisi set up, but my initial thoughts are that this isn't enough. I have no idea why you've fiddled with ROF/damage the way you have, considering it means just a 5% increase in damage and more efficient rocket use. Clip size is still smaller than other weapons with similar properties (though I guess it should almost be adequate, and hey, weapons are meant to be different). If the increase in EV does more than I expect then perhaps it will be sufficient. But as someone who uses rockets on a semi-regular basis, I doubt it. I think the real test will be whether you still need a web to hit drones for reasonable damage. That would be my first test actually, get someone to sick some warrior II's on a Crow/Malediction and see how many volleys they take to pop. Without order nothing can exist. Without chaos nothing can evolve.
Braitai Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.09.29 23:30:00 - [2] Originally by: Tonto Auri And how is your reply related to my quote? Pretty sure he was just agreeing with you. Without order nothing can exist. Without chaos nothing can evolve.
Braitai Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.09.30 07:16:00 - [3] Originally by: Kadesh Priestess ]Your assumption that i don't know missile damage formula and how it applies to small unguided missiles is wrong. CCP Chonotis has said that the missile formula we've been using is wrong, though TBH I'm skeptical about how wrong it is. I suspect it's not terribly far off. Without order nothing can exist. Without chaos nothing can evolve.
Braitai Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.09.30 11:09:00 - [4] Originally by: CCP Chronotis Will also look into whether we should and would release the missile formula, if my eve-search foo has worked, the one you are using is fairly different which explains your focus on DRF. Without order nothing can exist. Without chaos nothing can evolve.
Braitai Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.10.05 02:19:00 - [5] Originally by: Seishi Maru The vengeance deserves a 10% bonus OR a 4th launcher. I totally agree. .....you can stop posting now. Without order nothing can exist. Without chaos nothing can evolve.
Braitai Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.10.07 04:02:00 - [6] Originally by: yani dumyat Mostly I tested the hawk and while the damage bonus is welcome I'm left scratching my head about the powergrid boost, it's CPU that the ship needs. The grid increase has made a duel-prop setup more viable: [Hawk, Duel Prop] Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Ballistic Control System II Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Coreli C-Type 1MN Afterburner Small Shield Booster II J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Small Diminishing Power System Drain I Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Small Bay Loading Accelerator I Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I Without order nothing can exist. Without chaos nothing can evolve.
Braitai Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.10.07 10:06:00 - [7] Originally by: yani dumyat Originally by: Braitai The grid increase has made a duel-prop setup more viable: Gdd try but I have to ask what the purpose of that dual prop fit is? It lacks the tank to go 1vs1 against another AF AF's dedicated to scram range combat will always beat more useful fits. I say more useful because unlike an AF that only has an AB, a duel prop fit will actually be able to get into scram range against larger MWD targets, whereas AB only fits have to start at zero. Despite the fit's lack of raw HP's, it should be able to tank enough even without the SB running, assuming you're using rockets to take out drones. The SB is there for when you're fighting other frigates, and it should be useful against targets that aren't dedicated to scram range combat. The question is whether it has enough speed to get into a tight enough orbit while webbed. While I've never flown a hawk, I have flown a plated duel prop Rifter before. It had less EHP than that fit, and about the same speed, but no nos. It functioned adequately until it ran up against a neuting Cyclone, so I'm taking an educated guess by saying it would work as a scram tackler. I do agree with you about it lacking CPU though, but TBH, I think AF's in general are a bit weak, in the respect that they don't really fulfill much of a role. Without order nothing can exist. Without chaos nothing can evolve.
Braitai Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.10.15 08:11:00 - [8] Originally by: Sidus Isaacs CCP said all our formulas are wrong. :) So that is not a good enough basis to make proper adjustment to rockets imo. The numbers that have been put on this thread show that it is most definitely wrong. The buff so far sounds pretty good actually, assuming those numbers are correct, pretty much in line with what I'd hoped. Thank you CCP <3, can't wait to try it out myself. Without order nothing can exist. Without chaos nothing can evolve.
Braitai Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.10.15 10:26:00 - [9] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida - Malediction is not going to be much better than it is currently, if it goes for tackle/tank it has no damage/speed and vice versa .. you can kill them with practically all the t1 frigates - T2/faction frigs just makes it a foregone conclusion. http://www.minmatar-militia.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=156312 Yeah, such a foregone conclusion. Without order nothing can exist. Without chaos nothing can evolve.
Braitai Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.10.15 10:49:00 - [10] Edited by: Braitai on 15/10/2010 10:50:06 Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Killing a fail nano-slicer is not rocket science (how is that for pun!) and the duty of everyone just as killing Drams is http://www.minmatar-militia.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=113916 How about tanked out scram fit Slicers? Without order nothing can exist. Without chaos nothing can evolve.
Braitai Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.10.15 11:08:00 - [11] Originally by: Kadesh Priestess Slicer doesn't have tracking bonus => it's relatively easy to kill even in MWD malediction. I find this one a bit more impressive :D That is nice :) Anyway, Malediction is a bit low on CPU, but TBH I'm not sure it's that big an issue. Give it maybe 15-20 more, but TBH getting rockets right is much more important. Actually CPU seems to be a bit of an issue with all the rockets ships aside from maybe the Crow. Lower their requirements mayhaps? Without order nothing can exist. Without chaos nothing can evolve.
Braitai Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.10.16 01:38:00 - [12] Originally by: Sidus Isaacs I'd like to see how you would strictly T2 fit it. I will admit, I have not spent too much time in the Male. This is what I use on TQ right now [Malediction, Web/Scram] Small Armor Repairer II Overdrive Injector System II Damage Control II Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Foxfire Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Foxfire Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Foxfire Rocket Small 'Knave' I Energy Drain Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I <--this could probably be swapped for a ROF rig but on TQ clip size is too small ATM. Without order nothing can exist. Without chaos nothing can evolve.

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